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coyote hunter
04-10-11, 16:18
Here’s the scenario. Right before Christmas I was given an opportunity to trade a Ruger P85mkII for a gen3 Glock 23. So I did. I have had three FTFeeds on the last round all with the same magazine over the course of 250 rounds.


Because I am unsure of the round count on this pistol I want to replace all of the springs, to have a new round count starting point.
From what I can tell it came with this (http://www.glockmeister.com/Glockmeister-Stainless-Steel-Captured-Recoil-Rod-for-G19_23_32-and-38-GLOCK-Models/productinfo/GMSSR19C-2/) recoil spring guide rod, and I have no idea what spring


Also, I was planning on purchasing this spring kit. (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/default.aspx?productNumber=527839)
Would this be a satisfactory kit? Or is there another that would be a better choice?


And finally what weight recoil spring should I use? I have used the search function with varied results. Some results say OEM assembly, some say bumping it up to 20lbs and others say anything between 16 and 22 will work. What is the best choice to make sure my Glock will be as reliable as possible?


I plan on making this my carry gun if CC is legalized in this state (Wisconsin) so reliability is a must.
Thanks for the help in advance.

Hound_va
04-10-11, 17:32
According to Wolff, factory recoil spring weight for a 23 is 18 lbs.

http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?page=items&cID=1&mID=5#109

If you're running that specific part from Glockmeister, then I would follow their instructions about the spring for it:

"PLEASE NOTE: This is NOT the complete unit. This is the captured recoil rod only. Reloaders and competition shooters looking to dial in a custom spring weight benefit from purchasing this item's ability to easily change springs. Please be sure to purchase an ISMI recoil spring or recoil spring kit."

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=911537

madisonsfinest
04-10-11, 17:40
Are you not interested in OEM springs? OEM would be the most reliable I would guess, and probably the cheapest.

coyote hunter
04-10-11, 17:46
I know that the factory weight is 18, but some on the forums recommend upping the spring weight to 20lbs to increase reliability, others say the opposite is the best way to go.

I have that guide rod assembly, and it has a spring on it, but I'm not sure what weight it is.

And no, I have no preference as to OEM or aftermarket. I am interested in the most reliable setup. from what I understand the OEM guide rod assemblies are polymer rods, which many seem to not like, but that could be ignorance. I honestly have no Idea which is best, which is why I came here for answers.

I am willing to buy a whole new guiderod, I am not attached to the one I have in any way. I want new springs all around so I can have a starting round count on the springs. So I can keep up with maintenance.

Business_Casual
04-10-11, 17:49
Use OEM parts - they are cheap and reliable.

B_C

Hound_va
04-10-11, 17:53
I know that the factory weight is 18, but some on the forums recommend upping the spring weight to 20lbs to increase reliability, others say the opposite is the best way to go.

I have that guide rod assembly, and it has a spring on it, but I'm not sure what weight it is.

And no, I have no preference as to OEM or aftermarket. I am interested in the most reliable setup. from what I understand the OEM guide rod assemblies are polymer rods, which many seem to not like, but that could be ignorance. I honestly have no Idea which is best, which is why I came here for answers.

I am willing to buy a whole new guiderod, I am not attached to the one I have in any way. I want new springs all around so I can have a starting round count on the springs. So I can keep up with maintenance.

Then the simple solution is to buy factory springs and call it a day. That way the increase/decrease spring rate is moot.

coyote hunter
04-10-11, 17:55
Do you have a link to an OEM spring kit? Guide rod assemblies are easy to find, but I'm having trouble finding a complete spring kit.

Business_Casual
04-10-11, 18:02
Don't know why you would. Try G&R Tactical.

I'd get a recoil spring unit and a trigger return spring and call it a day.

B_C

Hound_va
04-10-11, 18:09
Call Glock in GA. They'll have everything you need and you'll get the latest greatest springs for your 23.

KTR03
04-10-11, 18:12
I'd use OEM everything. Really no need to go with aftermarket internals. Frankly the more you mess with glocks the less reliable they become. Get some factory recoil spring/guide rod. Get a trigger return spring, and call it good.

If you are in the Seattle area, ping me, I'm a glock armorer and have everything you need. Happy to hook you up.

ST911
04-12-11, 09:23
OEM only.

kerplode
04-12-11, 12:15
Do you have a link to an OEM spring kit? Guide rod assemblies are easy to find, but I'm having trouble finding a complete spring kit.
As the others have said, use OEM parts.

Here's a complete spring kit (http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126610&CAT=3649) @ Glockparts. Looks like it's currently backordered, though...

If you're in a hurry, you can start with the trigger and recoil springs. They're currently in stock and probably the most critical to change anyway.
Recoil Spring (http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7264&CAT=737)
Trigger Spring (http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7259&CAT=741)

And it's probably not a bad idea to replace the mag springs as well, especially for the mag that's causing the FTFeeds.
9-coil mag spring (http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=7195&CAT=726)

streck
04-12-11, 12:34
Another vote for OEM.

The only part that ever failed on my G23 was the slide lock spring. Keep a spare or two in your range bag.

coyote hunter
04-12-11, 20:20
Good to see such a strong response.

Thanks everyone!