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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoWQd8pcvek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsWzgR8Z53Q&feature=related
rickrock305
04-13-11, 23:44
looks like an assload of fun!
my stomach is doing somersaults just watching it on video!
Badass footage...I would absolutely love to go along for that ride, the high or stoke associated with it would have to be quite exceptional.
Thanks for the footage:)
My personal all-time favorite "crazy chopper pilot" clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pcZXZ9WzBc
Army Chief
04-14-11, 05:55
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AC
Here's the othe side of that coin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiEfX3PDzTc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
the 70's porno music adds a lot to the experience...
pow-chika-wow-wow
WTF is up with that? lol
I flew a Robinson 22 for about 30 minutes in 2001 when I was going to my Pilots License... One of the instructors had one... I had enough trouble with strait and level flight, let alone turns around a point and landing... Flying an fixed win aircraft is SO much easier its almost silly. These guys are awesome!
outrider627
04-14-11, 10:26
Damn, I never thought helicopters could do those type of maneuvers. It would be fun to ride in one of those, not counting any pucker moments.:eek: :D
pilotguyo540
04-14-11, 10:34
I love it!
Those choppers aren't shit without COSTA hanging out the side with his feet on the skid!!:cool:
ICANHITHIMMAN
04-14-11, 19:37
makes me sick just looking at it. There are 2 many Nam era CW4s flying in Astan that like making guys puke
justin_247
04-15-11, 09:41
Damn, I never thought helicopters could do those type of maneuvers. It would be fun to ride in one of those, not counting any pucker moments.:eek: :D
BO-105s have rigid main rotor blades, which gives them a little more capability in that regard. Most American helicopters have semi-rigid rotor blades, which makes such maneuvers much more difficult.
That is some damn fine flying!
Anyone know if the soundrack is available on iTunes :confused:
It would make great boarding music ;)
That would be one evil ride if you had an engine out... I'll just watch on YouTube, thanks!
as much as I don't like to admit it, I have absolutely no idea how a helo operates. I get the rotors spin and create lift and the tail rotor gives direction but how can it do complicated maneuvers like that? :confused:
as much as I don't like to admit it, I have absolutely no idea how a helo operates. I get the rotors spin and create lift and the tail rotor gives direction but how can it do complicated maneuvers like that? :confused:
Same way a plane does. You just don't have thrust parallel to the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, meaning it's harder to get the forward airspeed you need to accomplish such maneuvers. That's why you see such drastic changes in pitch when entering the maneuvers, as the dive is necessary (in those specific situations, anyway) to create the needed relative airflow over the rotors.
1_click_off
04-15-11, 15:16
Wonder how much he would charge to cut my lawn? Not much wiggle room for an oops.
RogerinTPA
04-15-11, 16:09
Nice Vids, but standard NOE (Nap of the Earth) flying for military helo pilots, although some Euro Mil pilots take it to the extreme.
Same way a plane does. You just don't have thrust parallel to the longitudinal axis of the aircraft, meaning it's harder to get the forward airspeed you need to accomplish such maneuvers. That's why you see such drastic changes in pitch when entering the maneuvers, as the dive is necessary (in those specific situations, anyway) to create the needed relative airflow over the rotors.
ok so how do they bank and turn?
ok so how do they bank and turn?
Pitch is changed on one side of the disk (rotor assembly) and lowered on the other side which results in a bank. This is done with the cyclic. It is also the way forward and rearward movement is controlled. Yaw is controlled via the rudder pedals which increases/decreases pitch on the tail rotor thereby increasing/decreasing thrust. The tail rotor is there to counteract the torque from the main rotor. At lower speeds directional control is primarily from the rudder pedals. At higher speeds, the aircraft becomes to act more like a fixed wing airplane and directional control is a result of the aircraft's directional stability causing it to weathervane when the helicopter is banked.
Wikipedia actually has some pretty good stuff on rotor wing aerodynamics.
Helicopter aerodynamics are far more complex than airplane aerodynamics. If an airplane is a man, think of a helicopter as a woman.
Keep in mind that I am a fixed wing pilot with only a little rotor time so I am straying to the edge of my lane. Army Chief is most certainly subject matter expert here.
I do however, unlike many of my fixed wing brothers, love helicopters so.
Nice Vids, but standard NOE (Nap of the Earth) flying for military helo pilots, although some Euro Mil pilots take it to the extreme.
Yeah, based on everything I have seen, this guy is taking it to the extreme. But that said, not much more than a lucky shot would ever be able to bring him down. I'm impressed.
thanks for that explanation. I checked out your reference to Wikipedia and I'm going to be doing some more reading...
The two definitions of helicopter that I recall:
"10,000 unrelated parts moving through the air in relatively close formation"
and
"helicopters don't fly, rather they beat the air into submission"
montanadave
04-16-11, 21:39
My wife and I were discussing taking a helicopter tour on our vacation to Maui.
After watching those video clips, two thoughts immediately come to mind:
#1. I want that guy flying my helicopter.
#2. I want to be able to hold a cup of water in my hand the entire flight and never spill a drop.
This guy is obviously a very good pilot...but there is no way in hell I'd get in that thing with him. I can't get 8 feet off the ground and not feel strange.
Scoby
My wife and I were discussing taking a helicopter tour on our vacation to Maui.
My wife and I just got back from Oahu, did take a helicopter tour around the island in a Hughs 500D. It was a blast, but we did have an "unplanned landing" at a grade school football field in the middle of Kaneohe. Some kind of tape had peeled off the rotor blades causing a vibration. The pilot just peeled the tape off all 5 rotor blades and declared us "good to go" again. We had some paperwork to fill out for the FAA when we got back, but we did get a free hat. From the helicopter company, not the FAA...
http://SSEquine.net/heli3.jpg
http://SSEquine.net/heli2.jpg
http://SSEquine.net/heli1.jpg
My wife and I just got back from Oahu, did take a helicopter tour around the island in a Hughs 500D. It was a blast, but we did have an "unplanned landing" at a grade school football field in the middle of Kaneohe. Some kind of tape had peeled off the rotor blades causing a vibration. The pilot just peeled the tape off all 5 rotor blades and declared us "good to go" again. We had some paperwork to fill out for the FAA when we got back, but we did get a free hat. From the helicopter company, not the FAA...
http://SSEquine.net/heli3.jpg
http://SSEquine.net/heli2.jpg
http://SSEquine.net/heli1.jpg
In all honesty, I enjoyed this story. I loved Oahu and I love helicopters. Do you have anymore pics to share?
A question for the rotary-types:
Recognizing that some will have greater aptitude for flying than others, how many hours are those pilots likely to have? What trends are there in their career development?
Army Chief
04-22-11, 18:38
Not fully sure that I understand what is being asked here. The average civil rotary wing pilot flying under FAR Part 135 is likely to have at least 1,500 hours at the time of hiring, and will generally build rapidly from there. This is not based upon anything regulatory, but is more or less the standard right now because of insurance requirements. Given the prohibitive cost of helicopter flight training in general, and turbine time in particular, this explains why ex-military pilots tend to be heavily represented in the industry, just as their jet-rated fixed-wing counterparts are in the major commercial airlines.
AC
The pilot we had out of of Oahu, "Bob", is ex-military going all the way back to Viet Nam. He has over 20,000 hours in fixed-wing and rotary. As we were making our precautionary emergency landing, which turned out to be nothing, I was reminded of the old saying "there are old pilots and there are bold pilots, but there are no old, bold pilots".
RogerinTPA
04-22-11, 21:46
A question for the rotary-types:
Recognizing that some will have greater aptitude for flying than others, how many hours are those pilots likely to have? What trends are there in their career development?
Helo jobs have always been competitive, but virtually a hidden job market. Your quals, hours, and who you know, will get you farther. You make a descent living, but it's not a lot of money compared to what fixed wing pilots make. Even that's a struggle for the first 7-10 years, the pay out is in the last 10 years of your career. Again, it's a hidden job market, your ratings and who you know.
Not fully sure that I understand what is being asked here. The average civil rotary wing pilot flying under FAR Part 135 is likely to have at least 1,500 hours at the time of hiring, and will generally build rapidly from there. This is not based upon anything regulatory, but is more or less the standard right now because of insurance requirements. Given the prohibitive cost of helicopter flight training in general, and turbine time in particular, this explains why ex-military pilots tend to be heavily represented in the industry, just as their jet-rated fixed-wing counterparts are in the major commercial airlines.
AC
As far as rotary wing, 1500 hours is on the very low end. Most companies will require 2500-3000 hours with recent experience, an instrument and a commercial rating minimum. Most applying will have an ATP and know someone at the company, or via recommendation.
Any else notice at .56-57 in the main clips a small tree/shrub........:D
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