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All you happy LMT owners show us your setups.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theozz/IMG_0989.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theozz/IMG_0984.jpg
How do you us the MRDS on top of that scope? Is your check/chin even on the stock?
How do you like the scope, that thing looks heavy? I have a burris 1-4 and a Vortex PST that I switch out on mine.
OP thats a beast of a trijicon, very nice looking though. Reminds me of the UK contract MWS's with the same optic. I have to ask as well, how does the MRDS work so high up there?
Heres my set up, all I am waiting on is some good BUIS:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x22/OTO27_photos/IMG_0010.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x22/OTO27_photos/IMG_0007.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x22/OTO27_photos/IMG_0003-2.jpg
Even the wife has a hard time leting go of it:
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x22/OTO27_photos/shootingrange.jpg
freefalle7
05-10-11, 20:17
http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL965/4056977/23525913/396577872.jpg
RubberDucky
05-10-11, 20:26
Nice setups!
VooDoo6Actual
05-10-11, 20:28
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_1942Large.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_1940Large.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_1950Large.jpg
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_1946Large-1.jpg
Hop...on any of your various adventures, do you employ that badass MWS?
VooDoo6Actual
05-11-11, 00:49
MWS (L7) negative.
others yes.
Here you go.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/BlackenedGrouperSammich/df3d97ad.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/BlackenedGrouperSammich/2c5be3d6.jpg
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm4/BlackenedGrouperSammich/de8a8bb2.jpg
HOPLOETHOS, very nice :)
What is the total weight, loaded, with this configuration?
What is the effect of the stock change? Does it feel front heavy now?
VooDoo6Actual
05-11-11, 09:22
HOPLOETHOS, very nice :)
What is the total weight, loaded, with this configuration?
What is the effect of the stock change? Does it feel front heavy now?
Yep indeed all viable questions.
Weight is over 13.5 lbs w/ mag, optic, Atlas bi-pod etc.
yes, it is front heavy no doubt. While it is the most accurate .308 semi I own, it is not balanced imo. The SCAR17S is better balanced but not as accurate. Tradeoffs...
I'm use to lugging heavy stuff so not an issue for me BUT I can see where it would be on a long stalk, hunt etc.
At the time it was one of the best .308 platforms around. I had to have it for work etc.
Subsequent to it's release is the La Rue Predator at <8 lbs w/o kit on it. Something to watch, tantamount in accuracy & viable so far.
HTH...
Yep indeed all viable questions.
Weight is over 13.5 lbs w/ mag, optic, Atlas bi-pod etc.
yes, it is front heavy no doubt. While it is the most accurate .308 semi I own, it is not balanced imo. The SCAR17S is better balanced but not as accurate. Tradeoffs...
I'm use to lugging heavy stuff so not an issue for me BUT I can see where it would be on a long stalk, hunt etc.
At the time it was one of the best .308 platforms around. I had to have it for work etc.
Subsequent to it's release is the La Rue Predator at <8 lbs w/o kit on it. Something to watch, tantamount in accuracy & viable so far.
HTH...
Put a UBR on my PIG. OA weight went up but it feels lighter because it seems to help balance it out a bit. Food for thought. Question. Is that a NF 2.5-10 x 36? If so, how far have you taken it out? I'm having a hard time deciding between the 2.5-10 and the 3.5-15 Nightforce. I like em' both...
Thanks HOPLOETHOS :)
I wonder if LMT (or somebody else) is going to eventually offer a lighter barrel for the MWS, specially in the barrel extension area. A bit thinner profile (or fluted), perhaps an aluminum sleeve in the barrel extension...
Do you think an adjustable gas tube is needed to optimize supressed shooting, or the added complexity outweighs the benefits?
What is the weight of the magpul mags compared to the (steel?) LMT ones? Might make a difference for a combat load. Do they offer the same reliability and durability?
Lastly, who offers a good, QD non cantilever mount (it is not needed here) for the MWS?
VooDoo6Actual
05-11-11, 22:54
Put a UBR on my PIG. OA weight went up but it feels lighter because it seems to help balance it out a bit. Food for thought. Question. Is that a NF 2.5-10 x 36? If so, how far have you taken it out? I'm having a hard time deciding between the 2.5-10 and the 3.5-15 Nightforce. I like em' both...
Negative,
NF 2.5x10x32
600 yds. so far.
regarding stock, I prefer the CTR for my physiogamy/somatatype & preferences.
Negative,
NF 2.5x10x32 My bad that's what I meant x32 NF
600 yds. so far. Do you think that's reaching the limit of that optic? Pretty consistent at that distance?
regarding stock, I prefer the CTR for my physiogamy/somatatype & preferences.I prefer CTR's as well on all other carbines. I just felt the UBR was needed on the MWS to help counter balance the bow.It was an expensive endeavor however.
Thanks for the feedback. Stay safe.
I just want you guys to know, I hate every last one of you for having one.
A serious question I've hoisted one before at a show (guy wouldn't give me time of day to sell it) and they didn't seem that heavy at the time--is it feasable to carry as a duty rifle?
I just want you guys to know, I hate every last one of you for having one.
A serious question I've hoisted one before at a show (guy wouldn't give me time of day to sell it) and they didn't seem that heavy at the time--is it feasable to carry as a duty rifle?
Well, you at least not in a Infantry / Ranger unit, having it to carry around while humping a 50 plus pound ruck on your back going up on the side of a mountain. Try carrying a 23 pound M60 machine gun plus rounds & tri-pod all day & night on a recon....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
While it is the most accurate .308 semi I own, it is not balanced imo. The SCAR17S is better balanced but not as accurate. Tradeoffs...
My observations about the accuracy of the SCAR17 mirrors yours. IMHO, this will improve once better after market triggers are available. The only factory tigger that beats my MWS is the one on a friend's SR25EMC - and that is a very close call. I've not gotten to try the Geissele offering for the SCAR, but I have to think that it will be a significant improvement.
VooDoo6Actual
05-12-11, 00:27
Sabre675 writes:
"Do you think that's reaching the limit of that optic? Pretty consistent at that distance?"
I don't think it's the limit but easy to replicate shot after shot w/ decent consistancy & accuracy.
There is a confirmed KIA in Trashcanistan of approx. 1300 yds. w/ the 5R 16" L7, albeit high elevation ...
Sabre675 writes:
"I prefer CTR's as well on all other carbines. I just felt the UBR was needed on the MWS to help counter balance the bow.It was an expensive endeavor however."
I tend to agree & understand the efficacy. In this instance I would be hunting/tracking w/ it more than fixed fighting postion so I opted for lighter and what I mount fastest & best w/ to suit my needs.....
Most the weight is @ receiver/barrel interface so balance is completely different.
I just want you guys to know, I hate every last one of you for having one.
A serious question I've hoisted one before at a show (guy wouldn't give me time of day to sell it) and they didn't seem that heavy at the time--is it feasable to carry as a duty rifle?
My initial impression out of the box was NO. Even though I intend to most likely use the rifle in a DMR configuration eventually, I was honestly disappointed. After realizing all the heft was in the barrel I decided to do what a few other had done and mounted a UBR in combination with a 6.5 ounce slash buffer to improve the balance of the weapon. While the gun weighed more it felt lighter because the combination helped balance the platform. I put on a spare H1 and Larue mount, added my FUG in the same approximate location in relation to my work SBR and walked around doing gun ups and transitions. I am quite pleased. I'd have no problem running the rifle in a battle configuration. Very versatile and could be run in either configuration. If one wanted to you could probably send a CL barrel to adco and have it re-profiled more favorably for more direct work(similar to the new OBR) and have your 5R barrel for a DMR configuration. I have no buyers remorse what so ever.
Sabre675 writes:
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There is a confirmed KIA in Trashcanistan of approx. 1300 yds. w/ the 5R 16" L7, albeit high elevation ...:eek::eek::eek:Someone get that man a budlight. Amazing! Any idea on the glass used and the dope he was feeding the 5R?
Thanks for your feedback on the NF. Are you running mildot or velocity Reticle?
VooDoo6Actual
05-12-11, 04:58
Thanks for your feedback on the NF. Are you running mildot or velocity Reticle?
Velocity
snapped some pics,
with Votex PST 2.5~10
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/308M1A/DSC02817_resize.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/308M1A/DSC02818_resize.jpg
with Burris 1x4. the reticle has pretty good daylight illum.
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/308M1A/DSC02819_resize.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/308M1A/DSC02820_resize.jpg
http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/pp142/308M1A/DSC02822_resize.jpg
supersix4, how do you like the larue index clips? Looks good.
supersix4, how do you like the larue index clips? Looks good.
I am very happy with them. They are great.
I really like this gun, I love shooting it.
I know I post a lot of pics of my mws, but it has become my favorite rifle by far.
How it's set up now with the exception of the scope. In this pic it was a NF NXS, I have since traded for a NF F1 mil/mil.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp133/m1ajunkie/100_2004.jpg
Took it out today to the nearest long range I have (675yds) and had a great day shooting. Got great groups with my reloads, and worked on my prone position, getting square behind the rifle is something I have been working on and it's starting to become "normal". I am amazed how much better I stay on target when laying square behind the rifle.
Anyway, pic through the scope of the targets at 650yds on 10x. A torso and several 10" squares hung as diamands and a mini torso.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp133/m1ajunkie/100_2047.jpg
A new video I took shooting the top right diamond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLIxg7chiPo
The target at the end of the day when we went to paint. Checked zero on the torso and then moved to the diamond. Those two hits on the torso are not a group, the top is one of my 178amax rounds and the bottom is the 175gr smk load.
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp133/m1ajunkie/100_2051.jpg
I would show off my MWS any chance I had..., Since I don't have a badass MWS, you guy's pics are the only thing that gets me through all the lonely, lonely nights.
Bring on the glamour shots...I will forever be a fool for Karl's system, everyday I love it more and more. Nothing like em' and they will spoil the shit outta you if you let em, the MWS is such an infant right now in terms of what it's going to be in perhaps 2-3yrs. These systems grow exponentially more dynamic each yr passes, they are truly the gift that keeps on giving in my book.
Anyway, gotta run and buy a SCAR:sarcastic:
M1A...aren't you in GA somewhere, being near Bham AL...it just might be worth a drive over to your awesome range for a full day and I mean full day. I almost love the pics you always show of that range more than these guns themselves. Edwin907 a fellow member who hasnt prob. come around in some time lives in GA and I have always wanted to come visit him and share each others guns for a day since he heavily influenced my ideas on these guns..specifically precision ARs.
Trident, I am in North Georgia. The range I shoot long range at is in lexington, GA just east of athens.
http://www.gunsitehills.com/
I would certainly be interested in putting together some kind of small gathering. Shooting at that range is a blast due to the abundance of steel targets.
Just curious, which scar you getting? What do you have in mind for it? That could be a question for another thread though.
I was just joshing on that Scar comment since it seems these days for whatever reason a MWS discussion can never be hand without somebody injecting some SCAR 17 talk into it.
My sister went to UGA so I have made many of trip to Athens which from Bham is...2hrs. from ATL, and then IIrc from ATL to Athens was about another 1 1/2 hr. I will for sure be considering making the drive over once the damn fuel price goes down...7hrs. round trip is nothing compared to the enjoyment and experience I will more than likely have at a awesome range such as yours, potentially having your MWS there to drive a little bit with would almost be worth the trip itself. I cannot wait to ring LR steel with the MWS...quite a diff. "ding" than a .223:cool:
A pal from Nightforce who is from GA has invited me if I ever would drive over to a 1700 yd range....I can prob. safely say I will never own nor shoot a rifle capable of that yardage....that's just awesome though I would imagine for a Barret or similar .50. I wonder what the bang.....ding sounds like over that distance. I originally planned to stay well into night if I ever did come over in order to try Edwin907's incredible NOD's collection including a recent PVS-22. Thanks for the reply.
memberonly
05-15-11, 06:32
m1ajunkie, nice setup and that range brings back some good old memory. Say hi to Chief for me!
Trident, I am in North Georgia. The range I shoot long range at is in lexington, GA just east of athens.
http://www.gunsitehills.com/
I would certainly be interested in putting together some kind of small gathering. Shooting at that range is a blast due to the abundance of steel targets.
Just curious, which scar you getting? What do you have in mind for it? That could be a question for another thread though.
I went there once a while ago and can second it being an awesome range. I would go to any gathering in a heart beat.
To make this legal I have a bone stock MWS:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/187ec574-3f1a-4ca7.jpg
I am trying to decide what to put on it: a Nightforce or an Elcan. It's a blast to shoot though and the only firearm I have ever purchased that came with it's own torque wrench.
No questions asked...I would take a baby NXS 1-4x over any particular Elcan model.
The NF is a true 1-4x even though the middle power ranges for most rarely get used, the elcan is just a 1x and 4x. Both are bombproof so the Elcan at least holds par in that category but then again I never seen an optic as over-engineered as the Elcans are. The nxs is a really LW optic for what you are getting in terms of performance out of it.
With the NXS you get to escape all those nightmares created by the Elcan's mounting mechism's like the ARMs models by running fantastic mounts designed perfectly for the modern day AR like a ADM or Larue. I cannot speak on Elcan's CS and QC, but NF's is impeccable, call em' up and they don't ask you any questions to your request. It should be that way when buying optics as these are.
No questions asked...I would take a baby NXS 1-4x over any particular Elcan model.
The NF is a true 1-4x even though the middle power ranges for most rarely get used, the elcan is just a 1x and 4x. Both are bombproof so the Elcan at least holds par in that category but then again I never seen an optic as over-engineered as the Elcans are. The nxs is a really LW optic for what you are getting in terms of performance out of it.
With the NXS you get to escape all those nightmares created by the Elcan's mounting mechism's like the ARMs models by running fantastic mounts designed perfectly for the modern day AR like a ADM or Larue. I cannot speak on Elcan's CS and QC, but NF's is impeccable, call em' up and they don't ask you any questions to your request. It should be that way when buying optics as these are.
That settles the debate then. It also doesn't hurt that it is cheaper. I am going to use Badger Ordnance rings unless somebody has a horror story about them.
I have Badger Ordnance rings on mine. They are one of the best setups out there.
http://www.hobbyhorse.com/RPD/lmt_308_s.jpg
148259, what scope are you running? Is that the vortex 1-4x?
FWIW, I am running badger ultra highs on my my rifle. No issues what so ever.
148259, what scope are you running? Is that the vortex 1-4x?
FWIW, I am running badger ultra highs on my my rifle. No issues what so ever.
It says "vortex" on the side of the scope so it must be.
Sorry been without a computer for a week.
Great looking setups out there.
As for the the redot it does take some getting used to but it's not bad.
HOPO:
I've been looking at the Nightforce for the SS barrel setup I have coming, which velocity reticule did you go with LV,MV,HV and would it provide enough magnification out to 1000yds?
148259, what scope are you running? Is that the vortex 1-4x?
FWIW, I am running badger ultra highs on my my rifle. No issues what so ever.
Yes, vortex 1-4x, Badger rings, badger tramp mount for the bipod, larue index clips, Jewell trigger, battlecomp flash supressor.
Hows the battle comp working out, does it tame the 16" Barrel system much or is it still a pretty sharp impulse?
I would also like to know your thoughts on the Battlecomp. I recently purchased the PWS FSC30 from SKD when they had their 25% off Osama is dead sale....couldn't pass it up for that price and I love the PWS FSC556 on my MRP.
Is the Battlecomp worth the 200 plus bucks or should I stick with the PWS? Thoughts?
Sorry no pics yet.....I purchased the MWS on deployment and haven't made it back yet.
Hows the battle comp working out, does it tame the 16" Barrel system much or is it still a pretty sharp impulse?
In my opinion it tames it pretty good.
I would also like to know your thoughts on the Battlecomp. I recently purchased the PWS FSC30 from SKD when they had their 25% off Osama is dead sale....couldn't pass it up for that price and I love the PWS FSC556 on my MRP.
Is the Battlecomp worth the 200 plus bucks or should I stick with the PWS? Thoughts?
Sorry no pics yet.....I purchased the MWS on deployment and haven't made it back yet.
I don't have the FSC30 but I do have both the FSC556 and a BattleComp, I would say based on my experiences with the BC and the 556 version, that the BABC and the FSC30 would be pretty similar from the user POV. They could be vastly different standing to the side of either.
VooDoo6Actual
05-17-11, 05:14
HOPO:
I've been looking at the Nightforce for the SS barrel setup I have coming, which velocity reticule did you go with LV,MV,HV and would it provide enough magnification out to 1000yds?
I went w/ 600yds. LV Ret. Mid was not out yet & because of barrel length etc. I really don't feel 1000 yd. shots are pragmatic w/ easy repeatability at that magnification or barrel length.
HTH....
I don't have the FSC30 but I do have both the FSC556 and a BattleComp, I would say based on my experiences with the BC and the 556 version, that the BABC and the FSC30 would be pretty similar from the user POV. They could be vastly different standing to the side of either.
I pretty much agree. I started with a FSC30 before the battlecomp. The recoil is pretty much the same but the big difference is in the blast. With the FSC30 it felt like a little version of my 50bmg, large pressure wave. The battlecomp, while still having a shock wave, wasn't nearly so obnoxious.
My battlecomp video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUM804M0qeI
I don't have the FSC30 but I do have both the FSC556 and a BattleComp, I would say based on my experiences with the BC and the 556 version, that the BABC and the FSC30 would be pretty similar from the user POV. They could be vastly different standing to the side of either.
Supersix4,
You, Doorgunner84 and I need to get together and run the OBR, LMT and N6 together before he deploys this fall. That would be a "Blast"
Until that day,
Darkop
Pretty vanilla, really.
Magpul foliage green furniture, TangoDown bipod (I got it for less than half retail), and a Nightforce 2.5-10x32 mildot/zero stop in a Larue mount. Basically set up as a basic precision rifle of sorts. Something more than a DM rifle, something less than a full-fledged sniper rifle.
Haven't had the chance to get many rounds out with it yet since it's on the other side of the planet from me right now. All of the shooting I've done with it has been from the prone, loading into the bipod. I'm able to get follow-up shots pretty quickly, and it's accurate enough that I can tell I'm the limiting factor. Well, me and the ammo. (About 2.5-3" groups at 100m with surplus ammo.)
http://i.imgur.com/9LZGM.jpg
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7411/mwss.png
Supersix4,
You, Doorgunner84 and I need to get together and run the OBR, LMT and N6 together before he deploys this fall. That would be a "Blast"
Until that day,
Darkop
Don't know how I missed this, but that would be awesome! I am game if we can work it out:cool:
Fighting Tenth
05-26-11, 23:49
Mine:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/moosanah/Latest/IMG_0933.jpg
How it shoots at 800m (875yds):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v306/moosanah/Latest/IMG_0932.jpg
Haven't had much opportunity to shoot it this spring, but plan on doing a quite a bit since the snow has melted.
Trident, I am in North Georgia. The range I shoot long range at is in lexington, GA just east of athens.
http://www.gunsitehills.com/
I would certainly be interested in putting together some kind of small gathering. Shooting at that range is a blast due to the abundance of steel targets.
Just curious, which scar you getting? What do you have in mind for it? That could be a question for another thread though.
I'd be in depending on the date if you got this going. It's a hell of a trip from N.FL but, I haven't shot past 300yds and that's getting boring.
Pulsar:
Is that and 18" or 20" barrel you have in your rig?
Pulsar:
Is that and 18" or 20" barrel you have in your rig?
It's a 20" barrel
Trunkmonkey4
05-28-11, 10:28
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Trunkmonkey4/IMG_0435.jpg
VooDoo6Actual
05-28-11, 10:37
http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/af73/Trunkmonkey4/IMG_0435.jpg
Nice thunderstick !
How much weight did you save by dimpling ?
Did it change balance of weapon any ?
IYO, any change in harmonics ?
TIA
Trunkmonkey4
05-28-11, 10:41
I think about 9-10 oz. And I don't have another one that I can really compare, but I defiantly would say the balance has changed for the better. I haven't gotten a chance to shoot it yet, but I will do a range report on my new barrel set up.
VooDoo6Actual
05-28-11, 16:52
trunkmonkey,
copy.
thanks
idreamt...
06-02-11, 11:11
All you happy LMT owners show us your setups.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theozz/IMG_0989.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/theozz/IMG_0984.jpg
I'd love to hear more about the combination of the 6x ACOG and the MWS.
Huskyfever03
06-02-11, 14:04
Got my MWS 1 week ago, so she'll be playing battle rifle until I can fork for some nice glass.
Added a SF 762SSAL/RE brake, KAC trigger guard, laRue index clips, MIAD, SF scout in an offset LaRue, mcmaster nut mod on the sights, and removed the red/white selector paint
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/8937cba1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/10259967.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/96926f63.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/3fd3485e.jpg
Huskyfever03 ,
very sharp. I like the Larue index clips a lot.
Kinda curious if anyone has the old MWS and the new one? I have one of the new forged uppers with the what looks as if increased surface area around the barrel and the 45 degree deflector cut. Anyone notice a weight difference and have any opinions as to if one is better then the other?
Crappy cell pic. UBR + Slash Car10 Heavy, MIAD,Magpul trigger guard and spare H1 in battle config, until the Nightforce fairy arrives. Cant decide on either the 2.5-10 or the 3.5-15. Then after that I need to decide on velocity ret or mildot. Decisions. F#$%K!
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-02-11, 19:02
Crappy cell pic. UBR + Slash Car10 Heavy, MIAD,Magpul trigger guard and spare H1 in battle config, until the Nightforce fairy arrives. Cant decide on either the 2.5-10 or the 3.5-15. Then after that I need to decide on velocity ret or mildot. Decisions. F#$%K!
Crappy pic, comfy looking couch.
I have a 3-15 Premier on mine in a Larue mount. It is a beast. It's not too much scope, it is just a lot of scope.
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/MileHighPhotos/Firearms/LMRSTI1.jpg
Nice boom stick. I had that image saved from another thread. Whichever I get will ride on a Larue. All you need now is the Barrett Balistic Computer.:)
Kinda curious if anyone has the old MWS and the new one? I have one of the new forged uppers with the what looks as if increased surface area around the barrel and the 45 degree deflector cut. Anyone notice a weight difference and have any opinions as to if one is better then the other?
It was actually determined that it isn't an increase in material around the barrel, it was that the new receivers were forged and they were able to remove some material on the receiver end as the forgings were a bit stronger. They should be ever so slightly lighter. I'd weigh mine but I have a 20" barrel, which is a heavy pig by itself. :eek: Maybe if someone else with a 20" CL barrel and the "older" style receivers could weigh theirs, we can compare.
snaggletooth
06-04-11, 02:59
Got my MWS 1 week ago, so she'll be playing battle rifle until I can fork for some nice glass.
Added a SF 762SSAL/RE brake, KAC trigger guard, laRue index clips, MIAD, SF scout in an offset LaRue, mcmaster nut mod on the sights, and removed the red/white selector paint
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/8937cba1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/10259967.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/96926f63.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b112/huskyfever03/3fd3485e.jpg
Question on the surefire break, who'd you send your barrel out to? To have it machined down to fit the surefire break?
Huskyfever03
06-04-11, 12:05
Question on the surefire break, who'd you send your barrel out to? To have it machined down to fit the surefire break?
The brake went on with no machining.
It was actually determined that it isn't an increase in material around the barrel, it was that the new receivers were forged and they were able to remove some material on the receiver end as the forgings were a bit stronger. They should be ever so slightly lighter. I'd weigh mine but I have a 20" barrel, which is a heavy pig by itself. :eek: Maybe if someone else with a 20" CL barrel and the "older" style receivers could weigh theirs, we can compare.
Kind of lost on this, so you are saying the old receivers were a forging and the newer ones are not? If anyone has a pic of the "old" receiver please post, having a hard time visualizing what is being said.
Kind of lost on this, so you are saying the old receivers were a forging and the newer ones are not? If anyone has a pic of the "old" receiver please post, having a hard time visualizing what is being said.
vise versa. One of each in this thread
Kind of lost on this, so you are saying the old receivers were a forging and the newer ones are not? If anyone has a pic of the "old" receiver please post, having a hard time visualizing what is being said.
The earlier receivers were billet, the new ones are forged. Forged receivers are stronger so they don't have to be as thick. What you see as extra material on the barrel mounting section is actually due to less material on the receiver section, making that area appear more pronounced.
vise versa. One of each in this thread
OK got it, still kind of hard to point out which ones which. Can you tell if mine is an older version? pics are on page 1.
OK got it, still kind of hard to point out which ones which. Can you tell if mine is an older version? pics are on page 1.
You have the earlier billet one.
You have the earlier billet one.
I figured I did since there are quite a few machining marks were you would normally not have them, but thanks for clarifying for me.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/bc5000/IMG_2947.jpg
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Is that an NF scope?? Looking hard at one for mine. Nice MWS.
Yes, 2.5-10 X24
Got it from Highcalibersales.com last Summer.
VooDoo6Actual
06-12-11, 21:24
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/bc5000/IMG_2947.jpg
Nice boomstick.
My L7 is very similar etc.
How do you like it ?
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FromMyColdDeadHand
06-12-11, 22:18
Nice boomstick.
My L7 is very similar etc.
How do you like it ?
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e225/teehee321/IMG_1942Large.jpg
Hop-
What does L7 refer to? Is that the Brit designation?
Are you left handed? Just looking at your light and switch placement and I was wondering if you are a lefty, or roll the gun to the left to reach the switch?
VooDoo6Actual
06-13-11, 00:04
Hop-
What does L7 refer to? Is that the Brit designation?
I forgot the m, my apologies it's LM7
http://www.janes.com/products/janes/defence-security-report.aspx?ID=1065928316&pu=1&rd=janes_com
Are you left handed? Just looking at your light and switch placement and I was wondering if you are a lefty, or roll the gun to the left to reach the switch?
Close, I can use my thumb & effect the the pad/switch easier.
Question on the surefire break, who'd you send your barrel out to? To have it machined down to fit the surefire break?
Who's rail covers are those?
ETA, never mind. A closer looks tells me they are Larue.
Got my MWS 1 week ago, so she'll be playing battle rifle until I can fork for some nice glass.
Added a SF 762SSAL/RE brake, KAC trigger guard, laRue index clips, MIAD, SF scout in an offset LaRue, mcmaster nut mod on the sights, and removed the red/white selector paint
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I do like the MB by SF. I am trying to decide between the brake and the FH. Have you noticed any difference in recoil impulse?? Is that difference worth getting the brake over the FH?? Nice MWS.
I do like the SF muzzle brake. I am trying to decide between the brake and the FH by SF. Have you noticed a difference in the recoil impulse? I imagine there is some difference. Certainly a difference in sound :D Nice MWS.
Sorry, strange double post. Computer brain farted.
Huskyfever03
06-14-11, 10:14
I do like the MB by SF. I am trying to decide between the brake and the FH. Have you noticed any difference in recoil impulse?? Is that difference worth getting the brake over the FH?? Nice MWS.
I do like the SF muzzle brake. I am trying to decide between the brake and the FH by SF. Have you noticed a difference in the recoil impulse? I imagine there is some difference. Certainly a difference in sound :D Nice MWS.
I have yet to shoot it. I've had some fgmm on order but "weather conditions" in Montana have been holding it up for a few days. I'll have my KAC sights today and hope to get them sighted at the range this weekend. I'll let you know!
I have yet to shoot it. I've had some fgmm on order but "weather conditions" in Montana have been holding it up for a few days. I'll have my KAC sights today and hope to get them sighted at the range this weekend. I'll let you know!
Cool, I would like to hear about it :rolleyes::D..no pun intended. Have fun. I am shooting mine next Tuesday and with your report, with a new FH or MB from SF!!
Thanks.
Huskyfever03
06-14-11, 22:49
Got my L129a1 kac's today! I like them alot better than troys. Very compact. The front sight post seems easier to pick up(probably because it's wider than the outer wings) and the rear is fully adjustable. +1 for kac sights.
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Also brake cleaned the grey Teflon off of the receiver extension. Still tight but much smoother function. I like the black better too :D
This rifle is just for fun since I'm not LE or military.
Going to mount an Atlas bipod on it and it's good to go. It's heavy but that's OK since this is strictly my "longer" range (to +/-800 yds.) .308 with a USO 1.8-10X. Couldn't use a Larue SPR due to the length of the USO housing so I went with an American Defense mount. The ADM is rock solid and positions just fine since the LMT top rail is continuous.
Problem for me is it's a 4-5 hour drive to shoot at that "longer" distance.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0891.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0896.jpg
Very nice set up DWood, I have the USO 1.8~10 on an 18 inch Larue and it is sweet.
VooDoo6Actual
06-18-11, 16:22
This rifle is just for fun since I'm not LE or military.
Going to mount an Atlas bipod on it and it's good to go. It's heavy but that's OK since this is strictly my "longer" range (to +/-800 yds.) .308 with a USO 1.8-10X. Couldn't use a Larue SPR due to the length of the USO housing so I went with an American Defense mount. The ADM is rock solid and positions just fine since the LMT top rail is continuous.
Problem for me is it's a 4-5 hour drive to shoot at that "longer" distance.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0891.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0896.jpg
Very nice boomstick.
Let us know how she shoots etc.
This rifle is just for fun since I'm not LE or military.
Going to mount an Atlas bipod on it and it's good to go. It's heavy but that's OK since this is strictly my "longer" range (to +/-800 yds.) .308 with a USO 1.8-10X. Couldn't use a Larue SPR due to the length of the USO housing so I went with an American Defense mount. The ADM is rock solid and positions just fine since the LMT top rail is continuous.
Problem for me is it's a 4-5 hour drive to shoot at that "longer" distance.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0891.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/LMT%20MWS%20308/DSC_0896.jpg
Bad ass scope, but your gun is missing it's most important component.
Bad ass scope, but your gun is missing it's most important component.
It's just posing; the magazines are loaded and ready!
Bad ass scope, but your gun is missing it's most important component.
It's just posing; the magazines are loaded and ready!
And I was assuming he was talking about a bottle of whiskey.
bnanaphone
06-23-11, 11:14
Finally got it set up with SD-E trigger, atlas and IOR 2.5-10 FFP with MP 8-dot. In this configuration it weighs 11.8 lbs. Going to shoot in a couple weeks and can't wait.
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Scope view
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Huskyfever03
06-28-11, 23:16
Got the atlas a few days ago.. Now I just gotta make up my mind on glass:confused::shout:
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Dirtyboy333
11-17-11, 06:30
I was just joshing on that Scar comment since it seems these days for whatever reason a MWS discussion can never be hand without somebody injecting some SCAR 17 talk into it.
My sister went to UGA so I have made many of trip to Athens which from Bham is...2hrs. from ATL, and then IIrc from ATL to Athens was about another 1 1/2 hr. I will for sure be considering making the drive over once the damn fuel price goes down...7hrs. round trip is nothing compared to the enjoyment and experience I will more than likely have at a awesome range such as yours, potentially having your MWS there to drive a little bit with would almost be worth the trip itself. I cannot wait to ring LR steel with the MWS...quite a diff. "ding" than a .223:cool:
A pal from Nightforce who is from GA has invited me if I ever would drive over to a 1700 yd range....I can prob. safely say I will never own nor shoot a rifle capable of that yardage....that's just awesome though I would imagine for a Barret or similar .50. I wonder what the bang.....ding sounds like over that distance. I originally planned to stay well into night if I ever did come over in order to try Edwin907's incredible NOD's collection including a recent PVS-22. Thanks for the reply.
Nice MWS's guys!!!;)
Trident or anybody else: I'm ordering a bipod right now for my MWS and i'm a little confused with all the different harris options (cant justify the Atlas, sorry). I take it that leg notches are preset distances that you can extend your legs to. Is that right? Also, I like the size that most everyone is using in this thread. For example, lets look at OTO27's MWS. Is that a 6"-9" model because thats the size I want?
The Vltor Mod-Pod had my attention but i'm starting tosway in favor of the Harris. So, I guess i would want a Harris 6"-9" with leg notches and swivel with an ADM mount. Does that sound right to you? We have so many common interests when it comes to firearms I trust that whatever you like I will like. :lol:
When making a barrel change with the MRP system am I supposed to loosen the barrel Torx screws with a standard ratchet and then use the supplied torque wrench to only tighten or do I just use the supplied torque wrench for the whole job?
Thanks guys, I will post some MWS porn as soon as i get the setup i want which shouldn't be long.
Nice MWS's guys!!!;)
Trident or anybody else: I'm ordering a bipod right now for my MWS and i'm a little confused with all the different harris options (cant justify the Atlas, sorry). I take it that leg notches are preset distances that you can extend your legs to. Is that right? Also, I like the size that most everyone is using in this thread. For example, lets look at OTO27's MWS. Is that a 6"-9" model because thats the size I want?
your correct about the leg notches part...I certainly always prefer the 6"-9" model...it's the HBRMS model. You want the swivel as well.
http://www.harrisbipods.com/IMG/HBRMS.jpg
The Vltor Mod-Pod had my attention but i'm starting tosway in favor of the Harris. So, I guess i would want a Harris 6"-9" with leg notches and swivel with an ADM mount. Does that sound right to you? We have so many common interests when it comes to firearms I trust that whatever you like I will like. :lol:
I love the Harris HBRMS w/ the AD-BP mount...currently running two of them and have been for several years...not a single problem with either one of them.
When making a barrel change with the MRP system am I supposed to loosen the barrel Torx screws with a standard ratchet and then use the supplied torque wrench to only tighten or do I just use the supplied torque wrench for the whole job?
That's correct because you don't want to risk knocking the preset torque value out on your supplied TW. I've been using a standard ratchet for the loosening of the screws, and the supplied TWs for years now w/o any problems whatsoever.
Thanks guys, I will post some MWS porn as soon as i get the setup i want which shouldn't be long.
It better not be too long, CANNOT WAIT to see what you brew up brother:cool:
Dirtyboy333
11-17-11, 13:20
Thanks alot buddy......I think i'm going to take out my barrel right now just for fun...:p
I'm sitting here staring at my MWS next to my DD build and although the LMT 2stage is sweet i'm debating ripping the SD-E outta my DD and swapping triggers (if it will work, i dont think you have to buy a special AR-10 model SD-E???). The MWS is going to be the LR rig anyway. The LMT 2stage is more than good enough for the role the DD has but I'm so in love with the flat bow that i'll probably just end up buying another. Ahhh, money, money, money.:rolleyes:
Does an MWS get me into the MRP club? I love this design and I havent even used it yet.
Sure does, it puts you squarely in the MRP fraternity...you got the BIG STICK:cool:
I think throwing the SD-E in your MWS is an excellent decision...so much so that I will be copying your style if you decide to do so.
It can be nerve racking for the first few barrel swaps as it's impossible to comprehend how amazing the design is and just how easy it is to perform. Nothing like a MRP/MWS:p
Just added this to the MRP lineup. Very nicely manufactured rifle to say the least. I have been running two other MRP's for years and have been very pleased with them so I had great confidence pulling the trigger on the MWS.
I always wait a year or so before jumping in the deep end and it appears at this point these rifles are dialed in and ready to rock out. My last few months of research has given me the data that I needed before jumping in. The data seems to be consitent accross the board. Sub MOA and RELIABLE. What more can you ask for :big_boss:
I will be adding an OBR before to long but I am now able to start my journey in learning long range shooting and running a .308 gas gun.
Awful pictures but it's been raining non stop so I can't get a good pic yet :mad:
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Sure does, it puts you squarely in the MRP fraternity...you got the BIG STICK:cool:
I think throwing the SD-E in your MWS is an excellent decision...so much so that I will be copying your style if you decide to do so.
It can be nerve racking for the first few barrel swaps as it's impossible to comprehend how amazing the design is and just how easy it is to perform. Nothing like a MRP/MWS:p
Dude! Where is your MWS? I've been following your posts on TOS and thought one was imminent... Need you to go out and test all the different ammos out there so I can save money based on your research. Get with it, after all you are the MRP man...
Very nice, what a beautiful rifle:p
My pal from LMT emailed me on Monday and said that he was shipping mine sometime this week.
Needs a Nightforce 2.5-10x24.
Dude! Where is your MWS? I've been following your posts on TOS and thought one was imminent... Need you to go out and test all the different ammos out there so I can save money based on your research. Get with it, after all you are the MRP man...
Hehehe...Being called the MRP man warms the cockles of my heart:D
Turns out these rifles are beyond wildly popular and LMT is having a really hard time meeting the demand for them both from the U.S. civilian market, as well as the MoD and NZ military contracts.
I go through my friend @ LMT these days for all my needs and with that being the case, I'm at the mercy of LMT instead of a dealer.
eta...
Needs a Nightforce 2.5-10x24.
Damn straight....for the interim, that is what I'm rolling with on mine. Ultimately though, I'm going with a 6.5cm true LR setup on this first MWS of mine, and it will sport a NF F1. Second MWS is getting SBR'd with a 13.5" .308 setup. It will sport a T-1 most likely, although a baby NXS like D90 has might go great as well on it.
Very nice, what a beautiful rifle:p
My pal from LMT emailed me on Monday and said that he was shipping mine sometime this week.
That's great news! Look forward to watching your research which will hopefully save me some money on ammo. Fortunately I am GTG on ammo for a bit. I have 1k of 175gr GMM and a couple hundred rounds of 150gr Hornady Superformance but I am looking forward to learning what commercially available ammo suites the CL 16" barrel the best and you are just the man to test it out.
Taking it out to shoot steel this weekend which I'm really looking forward to.
Im also looking forward to getting some proper pictures of the trio in the next few days.
The optic choice is going to consume me until I figure out what the best fit will be... Thinking for this rifle either the S&B 1.1-8 or maybe the Z6 that I have been hearing so much about. I might add another NF but wouldn't mind changing it up a bit, unless it turns out that once again the NF is the best bang for the buck for quality glass that doesn't break the bank.
That's great news! Look forward to watching your research which will hopefully save me some money on ammo. Fortunately I am GTG on ammo for a bit. I have 1k of 175gr GMM and a couple hundred rounds of 150gr Hornady Superformance but I am looking forward to learning what commercially available ammo suites the CL 16" barrel the best and you are just the man to test it out.
Taking it out to shoot steel this weekend which I'm really looking forward to.
Im also looking forward to getting some proper pictures of the trio in the next few days.
The optic choice is going to consume me until I figure out what the best fit will be... Thinking for this rifle either the S&B 1.1-8 or maybe the Z6 that I have been hearing so much about. I might add another NF but wouldn't mind changing it up a bit, unless it turns out that once again the NF is the best bang for the buck for quality glass that doesn't break the bank.
Well I really look forward to sharing another rifle with you brother, me and you go back to the "MRP Badness" days;)
I also really look forward to some more pics of that beautiful rifle of yours, you really can't do anything in my style of taking pics without great natural filtered lighting. Having clouds filter a sunny morning is my favorite time to snap a pic or two.
That NXS 3.5-15x50 is one helluva great optic for these rifles though, I can see you wanting to reduce the profile and size a bit, but that optic will really allow you to get the most outta your MWS in terms of LR precision capabilities.
At any rate, really excited to see you pick one of these up and look forward to swapping notes on them in the future with you. CONGRATS:)
I have already decided against this setup and will be putting my NF 3-.5-15X50 MLR on it tonight so that I can take advantage of the cartridge out to 800+ yds :cool: Can't wait to start my journey in learning long range shooting.
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I can't really explain why I did it, but I just ordered the 16" SS barrel for my MWS (from Trident's buddy at LMT). One of these days, I'll get around to actually shooting the damn rifle and making my investment worth it. LOL
I can't really explain why I did it, but I just ordered the 16" SS barrel for my MWS (from Trident's buddy at LMT). One of these days, I'll get around to actually shooting the damn rifle and making my investment worth it. LOL
Were you getting poor performance out of the factory 16" CL barrel? From what I have seen and been following the factory 16" CL barrel is shooting a little under MOA which is certainly acceptable for my needs... Were you not getting those results and that's why you upgraded to the SS?
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/afd77/securedownload4.jpg
Were you getting poor performance out of the factory 16" CL barrel? From what I have seen and been following the factory 16" CL barrel is shooting a little under MOA which is certainly acceptable for my needs... Were you not getting those results and that's why you upgraded to the SS?
"I can't really explain why I did it".....I was getting sub-moa 10-shot groups (shot at 100 yards with a NF 2.5-10x24) with the 16" CL barrel.
I can't really explain why I did it, but I just ordered the 16" SS barrel for my MWS (from Trident's buddy at LMT). One of these days, I'll get around to actually shooting the damn rifle and making my investment worth it. LOL
Hell yeah, If for no other reason dealing with Ryan is almost worth the price of admission:p He is the absolute MAN!!
I hope to see you compare the 16"CL side by side with the 16" SST. That would be awesome.
D90....Badass pictures brother, while you may not intend to run that setup very long, it's certainly a very well thought out and executed one to say the least.
afd77 might just make me a fan of FDE with that beautiful specimen of his.
Hell yeah, If for no other reason dealing with Ryan is almost worth the price of admission:p He is the absolute MAN!!
Prior to this order, which I gave over the phone to Ryan, I had only traded emails with him. You'll get no argument from me on your appraisal of him.
I'll do my best on the CL vs SS comparo, and will post results.
-Pete
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-09-11, 15:26
Santa working on his VERY naughty list.....
http://i1034.photobucket.com/albums/a426/MileHighPhotos/Firearms/LMT-MWS-HoHoHo.jpg
Awesome setup brother ^^^
Pete...It's great to hear that your dealing with "The MAN" these days, he totally solidified my beliefs in LMT:) Very much look forward to seeing that comparison in the future from you.
VooDoo6Actual
12-09-11, 19:54
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ICANHITHIMMAN
12-09-11, 20:16
Dont do that, just post a pic with no details. Did you paint it dip it come on, play the game.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt271/afd77/securedownload4.jpg
Dont do that, just post a pic with no details. Did you paint it dip it come on, play the game.
I apologize.
Specs:
LMT 308 MWS
18" SS Barrel w/ AAC 51T brake
Painted with Rustoleum (Can't remember what color) with matte clear coat
Magpul: ACS stock, MIAD, trigger guard (MIAD dyed to better match the rail covers)
KAC rail covers and BUIS
Nightforce Unimount
SS 5-20x50, mil/mil, FFP, Illuminated
PRI Gasbuster
Atlas V8 bipod
CAR-10 extra heavy buffer
AAC 762-SD
JeepDriver
12-10-11, 09:31
At the range a couple weeks ago.
Wearing a new 20" chrome lined barrel and YHM suppressor.
http://fototime.com/B9B25CA42AB1C9B/standard.jpg
Dirtyboy333
12-10-11, 11:12
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I have nothing but compliments for this scope but I think it may be too big. It's a 6-24x. I'm going to be shooting up to 1k with this gun but I have good eyes and I think I can do it with less. I am thinking about keeping this scope for a future bolt gun (have 15 days to return it but i mounted it) and getting a 3.5-10x44. Would I have any problem shooting/seeing 12"x16" silhoueete at 1k?
Soon upgrades: 18" SS, Larue Integral Bipod and knob...
Prior to this order, which I gave over the phone to Ryan, I had only traded emails with him. You'll get no argument from me on your appraisal of him.
I'll do my best on the CL vs SS comparo, and will post results.
-Pete
Please do! I am very interested to see the variance in performance between the two. I plan on staying with 16" barrels for the MWS and will probably go 18" on an OBR though what I would love to get is a 14.5" regular OBR barrel in a Pred tube. To me that would be absolute ta ta's....
http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee498/Dirtyboy333/DSC02503.jpg
F**KING SWEEEET!
Really great job pal, that rifle is straight up awesomeness:)
eta... Minus those damn KNS pins;)
jonconsiglio
12-10-11, 13:20
I'm starting to get an itch for one of these. With the SCAR H and 700 I have my 7.62 needs covered, but I think this would be a cool addition. I've been thinking of selling one of the Barretts and may just have to grab one of these.
I need to get over the weight. The SCAR covers my lightweight needs in 7.62. With access to distances well over 2,000 meters, it's time I start focusing on a precision semi auto in 7.62 instead of just the really heavy stuff.
What I really need to do is get one out there next to my other rifles to see how it compares. So, Patrick? Feel like taking a trip down to South Texas?
ICANHITHIMMAN
12-10-11, 17:57
I must say I think it looks great thats why I was hurt you didnt say what you did it with :dirol:
I apologize.
Specs:
LMT 308 MWS
18" SS Barrel w/ AAC 51T brake
Painted with Rustoleum (Can't remember what color) with matte clear coat
Magpul: ACS stock, MIAD, trigger guard (MIAD dyed to better match the rail covers)
KAC rail covers and BUIS
Nightforce Unimount
SS 5-20x50, mil/mil, FFP, Illuminated
PRI Gasbuster
Atlas V8 bipod
CAR-10 extra heavy buffer
AAC 762-SD
jonconsiglio
12-10-11, 20:24
I'm looking forward to seeing one of the new Surefire 7.62 Minis soon on one of these rifles.
Dirtyboy333
12-11-11, 11:33
F**KING SWEEEET!
Really great job pal, that rifle is straight up awesomeness:)
eta... Minus those damn KNS pins;)
:p Thanks bud!!! Yeah I was cringing when i was posting those pics with the KNS knowing you would be viewing haha. In all honesty, i'm taking them out and putting the G pins back in. I just haven't got around to it yet.
Can any1 help me out with understanding the knob on the left side of the scope? The manual calls it a "side focus" but then later its termed "parallax adjustment". If it's a focus adjustment then what the heck is the "fast focus eyebell" for and is it focusing the image or the reticle?
Basically, I would just like to know how and when to effectively use it. Thank you
If this question is too far out of the "scope" of this thread then just send me a PM. :no: sorry, i couldn't resist.
Now with the proper glass on top. NF 3.5-15X50 MLR ret. In a BoBro mount! I pray i didnt make a mistake with the BoBro mount.... Its a big ole hoss, but I like it!!!
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/a6ff4261.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/e7a115ab.jpg
*mutters and thinks his wallet is going to be in therapy for years...*
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/e7a115ab.jpg
NICE! That Bobro mount is a fine piece of kit for sure. If I ever strayed away from ADM Recons, no doubt I'd pick up a Bobro. I really like the no hassle adjusting mechanism on them.
Tomorrow....there is a chance I'll be going F**KING BONKERS:D
OK,
Longtime lurker here. I've finally been lured into sharing. :D
These are great rifles. Thanks to everyone for sharing!
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx87/rginidaho/mws_20inch_parma.jpg
I've had it since August of 2010.
First Gen Lower
Upper is the forged version
Magpul ACS - I kept tripping the lever on the SOPMOD :mad:
8.5oz buffer from Slash
Dual Ejector bolt
Nightforce Unimount
Leupy MK4 3.5-10 LRT - TMR reticle
Harris bipod on Larue Mount
Geissele SD3Gun - a bit light - it requires good follow through ;)
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx87/rginidaho/175smk_100yd_varget.jpg
First group from the 20" SS, I knew I pulled the one so I sent another to make it a solid 10 shot group. I probably got lazy on the trigger and pulled the two outlyers as well.
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx87/rginidaho/100913_175smk_varget_.jpg
This one was from the 16" CL.
Damn, first post in over 4yrs....at least you made your first one an awesome one:p
Looks like you got a badass place to shoot that sweet rifle at. Shooting prone with the SOPMOD can be troublesome given the latch's positioning, however Ive never really had a problem with it.
I just picked up a SD-3G and the pull on that thing is freaking amazing. I haven't yet tried it in a precision capacity as I prefer the SD-E and SD-C for that but I bet it will get the job done in that use as well.
Thanks for sharing that with us even if you don't post for another 4 years;)
F**K YEAH....THE EAGLE HAS LANDED
:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3:
DeltaSierra
12-12-11, 17:59
F**K YEAH....THE EAGLE HAS LANDED
:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3:
Is that supposed to mean that you got your MWS?
I want pictures....NOW!!
;)
Trident didn't have an MWS?
DeltaSierra
12-12-11, 18:22
Trident didn't have an MWS?
Nope....:D
Last I heard, it was shipping last week, so I can only assume that he picked it up today...
Trident??? Pics, man... Come on.....
:p
F**K YEAH....THE EAGLE HAS LANDED
:dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3::dance3:
I officially hate you right now...:D :jester:
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
Oh. Oh man. You got one with the red mark. That's bad, man. that gun has a major flaw in it. You need to get rid of it right away before it kills you and your family. I'll take it off your hands and bury it here at the farm where it can't kill anyone. I'll even pay for shipping. I would hate to see you get hurt, man. :D
Send me your addy Deltakilo:D
Thanks Cameron, time for you to pick one up now:)
I threw some kit on it real quick for one more pic...
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02406-2.jpg
Send me your addy Deltakilo:D
Thanks Cameron, time for you to pick one up now:)
I threw some kit on it real quick for one more pic...
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02406-2.jpg
Sexy.
DeltaSierra
12-12-11, 18:59
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
That was kinda obvious!
Come on, you can take better pictures than that.... The famous black rifle pictures that you take, and you dare to post a pic of the rifle laying on the carpet? :D
I'll be eagerly awaiting a range report, and some video of the first time out....
I might be convinced to come down to Alabama to help you test that thing.... :D
buddyhoohaw
12-12-11, 19:24
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
Congrats! I'm diggin' the micros on that beast.
Cheers
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
About time, Congrats.
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-12-11, 20:28
Welcome to the club!
Thanks gents, I appreciate the kind words:)
Buying up various different types of ammo and will be starting to conduct the ammo and accuracy evaluations on them asap. Going to chrono some of the more popular ammo types as well. Next I will do some reliability testing using quite a bit of surplus type using multiple different pmags. Lastly will be hitting the LR locale with the video equipment.
congrats Trident. Wish I could even remotely come close to affording one.
Thanks brother...pretty soon here now I might need to buy one of those "signaling" adapters for the CMP steel target from you. This new rifle should be able to get me beyond audible range:cool:
freefalle7
12-12-11, 22:24
Nice
glad to see you finally got it.
Free
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
Dirtyboy333
12-12-11, 22:48
Hell yaeh Trident!!! All you need to complete that bad boy is some KNS pins..:jester:
Mine came with that allen wrench hanging from the trigger guard as well. Whats that for? Also, I love the KAC panels and i'm going to buy and stipple some or just pay you to :D. Are they hard like the LMT panels or are they more of a soft rubber?
Its gonna be fun sharing data with ya. I'm going to be working up some nice hand loads so when you finally start loading you'll have a good start.
Once I get used to this thing I might just fly to Bama and shoot with ya.:p
Thanks Free...I'm extremely happy to finally join the club. You were the first person I know of to own a MWS.
Dirtyboy...It's on like Donkey Kong;) I got some catching up to do in order to be on par with that awesome specimen of yours.
RE: the small allen wrench....its for the ambi selector I believe(the one lever that has the small screw).
RE: the KAC panels, they are surprisingly durable and hard in nature. The actual stippling has never deformed or flaked off on all my others. I have a long standing deal from the barfcom days that if anybody owns a MRP..now MWS too...that I would do the panels for free. Speaking of free...I did a set for freefalle7's awesome MWS sometime ago. So its my pleasure to do the work for you if you want, just send me the panels you want done and I'll turn them around in no time for you pal:)
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
Congrats on the new rifle. Haven't talked to you in a while. I hope all is well.
Thanks Steve, I miss hearing from you now that you finished up piecing together that masterpiece of yours. Hope your doing great as well brother:)
Thanks brother...pretty soon here now I might need to buy one of those "signaling" adapters for the CMP steel target from you. This new rifle should be able to get me beyond audible range:cool:
No problem man, just shoot me a email or pm when ur ready and we can get it done.
I'm counting my pennies for one of these. I think come tax refund time I may have enough lol
Holy shit I'm giddy like a little schoolgirl:D
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02402-1.jpg
****in A... Gone for a day and come back and Mr MRP shows up with Big Pappa! Congrats!
Okay, now get busy on seeing what ammo the 16CL barrel likes :cool: knowing you though you prolly got a fancy 18" SS barrel so you won't be able to save me from waisting money on ammo it doesn't "love"...
I know they eat anything (to me that was one of the most important factors for me in buying one) but I would like to know what their favorite food is. ;)
Looking at it, it looks like a 16" SS?
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 08:43
Looks good Alex. I'm looking forward to hearing more about what ammo the 16" likes at extreme ranges. I'm getting more and more tempted to pick one of these up.
LMT offers a 13" barrel, correct? If so, I really like the idea of having different lengths. It never worked for me on the MRP because I just had too many different 5.56 rifles. With this, I could actually see using different barrels. My only concerns the weight. There are days where we drive and carry our rifles for 12 hours or more, so that's a concern still. I'd like something in the 14" area with a Surefire mini 7.62. If it's light enough, my SCAR H could possibly spend more time in the safe.
I think a 2.5-10 would be nice on this rifle. Too bad I don't have one! I go from an ACOG 4x32 to a S&B 5-25, which is a bit much.
I'd really like to shoot one of these next to the SCAR and a LaRue OBR. I really like the LaRue but it leaves me wanting something, but can't put my finger on it exactly. Everyone needs to pack up their rifles and head down this way... My buddy has a couple thousand acres to do whatever we want plus some hogs and coyotes (one in particular) that I'm not finished with.
Looks good Alex. I'm looking forward to hearing more about what ammo the 16" likes at extreme ranges. I'm getting more and more tempted to pick one of these up.
LMT offers a 13" barrel, correct?
They only show 16-20" available but I know I have read of 13" MWS's... I'm also interested in that info. Maybe they are going to release the other barrel options when they announce the new calibers... Maybe SHOT will hold some answers.
bnanaphone
12-13-11, 10:18
Trident, glad you finally received your rifle. Congratulations.
I am also looking forward to reading your shooting results of various ammo brands/weights. Your testing will help many of us here. Maybe this thread (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=63240) will finally have some new life.....
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 10:26
They only show 16-20" available but I know I have read of 13" MWS's... I'm also interested in that info. Maybe they are going to release the other barrel options when they announce the new calibers... Maybe SHOT will hold some answers.
I guess it wouldn't be an issue to have one cut to 13" or 14". IF I decide to add one of these, I'd likely have a CL barrel reprofiled, so having it cut wouldn't be any extra work.
Personally, I'd like a lightweight 13" to 14" barrel then a 16" or 18". I'd need to see some accuracy results from both CL and SS, but since I have other 308's, it would make more sense for me to make this more of a precision semiauto.
I just wish the damn thing wasn't so heavy.
Looks good Alex. I'm looking forward to hearing more about what ammo the 16" likes at extreme ranges. I'm getting more and more tempted to pick one of these up.
LMT offers a 13" barrel, correct? If so, I really like the idea of having different lengths. It never worked for me on the MRP because I just had too many different 5.56 rifles. With this, I could actually see using different barrels. My only concerns the weight. There are days where we drive and carry our rifles for 12 hours or more, so that's a concern still. I'd like something in the 14" area with a Surefire mini 7.62. If it's light enough, my SCAR H could possibly spend more time in the safe.
I think a 2.5-10 would be nice on this rifle. Too bad I don't have one! I go from an ACOG 4x32 to a S&B 5-25, which is a bit much.
I'd really like to shoot one of these next to the SCAR and a LaRue OBR. I really like the LaRue but it leaves me wanting something, but can't put my finger on it exactly. Everyone needs to pack up their rifles and head down this way... My buddy has a couple thousand acres to do whatever we want plus some hogs and coyotes (one in particular) that I'm not finished with.
It is heavy and there is no getting around that. Close in weight to an OBR but compared to your SCAR it will feel like a pig... IMHO this is more of a static rifle where most of your time is spent prone and shooting and not humping it. Maybe a 7.62 Pred might be a better fit for your needs. Accurate enough and pretty damn light rifle by a quality builder.
It's damn near 10 lbs naked, maybe a little less once you take off the LMT BUIS and replace with the KAC's... I added one to the safe to use in that role and I will be adding others to perform different roles.
I'm up for a road trip for some long range shooting with some dialed in dudes. Let's make it happen.
I think I just dropped the SCAR 17s from my want list and added this....
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 12:12
I think I just dropped the SCAR 17s from my want list and added this....
I really appreciate my SCAR H, but I end up carrying it quite a bit and never have a NEED to push it past 600 meters or so, which it does extremely well. When there's a difference of 3 pounds, that's huge.
I really want one of these (still want an SR25 as well, but this may be a better choice) but like Patrick said, it'll be more of a static rifle.
For me, I'll be out in wide open areas then end up through the thick, getting up close and personal with some hogs. I couldn't ask for a better rifle than the SCAR. It's also extremely accurate at long range as well.
Still, there's something about the MWS I really like. Next time we go to the ranch, Iraq Ninja should make it down and hopefully bring an OBR so I can get a good feel for the weight.
See, I'm still trying to make the MWS into something it's not. I know if I get one it'll be used from the Jeep or club cars instead of walking around with it. Then, I start fighting it again with the fact that I own other precision rifles capable of slightly better accuracy.
This going back and forth drives me nuts. Anyway, I need to get my hands on one. Patrick, I'm serious about getting together. There are areas that exceed a couple thousand meters plus some large pits dug out ideal for drills.
Like I said, I'd love to put the MWS next to my SCAR and it would be great if Iraq Ninja was there as well with the OBR. I'm sure the MWS and OBR will be more accurate from the bench, it's the other areas that I really want to see.
Let's make it happen. I've been meaning to take one of the Barretts out there to take a hog and it's always more fun with other people. There are a number of blinds and stands there and that MWS would be perfect with NODs and an unsuspecting piggy.
Here's some pics of the ranch - http://s534.photobucket.com/albums/ee343/jonconsiglio/Ranch/
Jon, I am in the same boat as you. I want to be able to run and gun. I am torn...
Congrats Trident! Can't wait to see it in action.
If u want to run and gun and still retain some "precision", I'd stick with a Scar 17 or the LaRue Pred762. Those are accurate enough to do mild precision and yet light enough to patrol with.
The MWS and OBR are DMR's/Precision rigs.
....it's always more fun with other people.
If that is an open invitation, have MWS, will travel. :D
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 14:49
If u want to run and gun and still retain some "precision", I'd stick with a Scar 17 or the LaRue Pred762. Those are accurate enough to do mild precision and yet light enough to patrol with.
The MWS and OBR are DMR's/Precision rigs.
I'm trying to come to terms with that and keep them in their specific roles. It's hard not wanting it to do everything though. I wonder what a slightly retrofitted 13" or 14" barrel would do for the weight. I started considering selling the SCAR H for the MWS, but then that would leave me with nothing but precision 308's. I just don't know! I'm trying to thin the herd, not fatten it up.
I'm trying to come to terms with that and keep them in their specific roles. It's hard not wanting it to do everything though. I wonder what a slightly retrofitted 13" or 14" barrel would do for the weight. I started considering selling the SCAR H for the MWS, but then that would leave me with nothing but precision 308's. I just don't know! I'm trying to thin the herd, not fatten it up.
I think your looking at 8.5 lbs rifle naked. You won't be able to make it into a lightweight rig but you can make it into a lot of other things. I think one thing that would do is make the rifle balance really nicely which IMHO goes a long way.
It really is a fantastic rifle but it has it's role and I wouldn't try and make it something it's not. Sadly a lot of the weight comes from where the modularity is built in. These are built like tanks and are made to run on anything all day long (plus you get to use Pmags:D) and then in minutes turned into a true precision rig.
You should do a thread on FTT and see if we can get a good group of good shooters together for trip out your way for some long range work. I'm sure I could learn a lot from you guys and we could make it a great time.
I think your looking at 8.5 lbs rifle naked. You won't be able to make it into a lightweight rig but you can make it into a lot of other things. I think one thing that would do is make the rifle balance really nicely which IMHO goes a long way.
It really is a fantastic rifle but it has it's role and I wouldn't try and make it something it's not. Sadly a lot of the weight comes from where the modularity is built in. These are built like tanks and are made to run on anything all day long (plus you get to use Pmags:D) and then in minutes turned into a true precision rig.
You should do a thread on FTT and see if we can get a good group of good shooters together for trip out your way for some long range work. I'm sure I could learn a lot from you guys and we could make it a great time.
Well, if nothing else, I'll be willing to host a camp out nearby to an exceptional 1000m range...
Congrats Trident! Can't wait to see it in action.
Thanks friend, the Atlas you so generously provided me with goes absolutely perfect with this rifle. Once again, a million thanks for that amazing gesture on your part:)
D90, Jon, bnanaphone...I really appreciate the kind words gents:)
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02463-1.jpg
Ah, Trident's patented shine juice has been applied! Looks awesome, dude!!!
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 18:57
Alex, are you going to keep that 1-4 on it or switch it out to something with a little more reach? Have you had it out yet?
Thanks friend, the Atlas you so generously provided me with goes absolutely perfect with this rifle. Once again, a million thanks for that amazing gesture on your part:)
D90, Jon, bnanaphone...I really appreciate the kind words gents:)
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02463-1.jpg
Gorgeous brother, it's a truly awesome rifle.
That's no 1-4 :cool:
Either way, i'm taking up a collection...
Dirtyboy333
12-13-11, 19:28
Ah, Trident's patented shine juice has been applied! Looks awesome, dude!!!
He sure did....I would love to get my hands on that secret recipe. That rifle looks amazing dude!!!
Dirtyboy333
12-13-11, 19:29
That's no 1-4 :cool:
what is it?
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 19:42
I think your looking at 8.5 lbs rifle naked. You won't be able to make it into a lightweight rig but you can make it into a lot of other things. I think one thing that would do is make the rifle balance really nicely which IMHO goes a long way.
It really is a fantastic rifle but it has it's role and I wouldn't try and make it something it's not. Sadly a lot of the weight comes from where the modularity is built in. These are built like tanks and are made to run on anything all day long (plus you get to use Pmags:D) and then in minutes turned into a true precision rig.
You should do a thread on FTT and see if we can get a good group of good shooters together for trip out your way for some long range work. I'm sure I could learn a lot from you guys and we could make it a great time.
Sounds like a good idea. I'll start trying to figure things out here and try to set something up. It looks like I might be headed overseas for work, just not sure exactly when so ill try to make it work relatively soon.
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 19:44
That's no 1-4 :cool:
That's not his Nightforce 1-4x24?
Nose is too long, looks like a 2.5-10x24
jonconsiglio
12-13-11, 20:01
Nose is too long, looks like a 2.5-10x24
EDIT - I forgot about the 2.5-10x24... I was thinking of the x32? Anyway, for whatever reason I was thinking the only Nigthfroce optics that were straight tubes at the front were the 1-4's. Good catch.
Gorgeous brother, it's a truly awesome rifle.
Thanks brother:)
40Arpent, Dirtyboy....the special sauce was applied just for you guys:D
RE: Jon, haven't yet taken it out to shoot...the optic is NXSc 2.5-10x24 with the compact mil dot ret.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02457-1.jpg
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02457-1.jpg
That is the combination I have been thinking of, I have a nice LMT 10.5" 5.56 that is waiting patiently for a 7.62 big brother.
Very nice. Waiting for the videos.
Cameron
Thanks brother:)
40Arpent, Dirtyboy....the special sauce was applied just for you guys:D
RE: Jon, haven't yet taken it out to shoot...the optic is NXSc 2.5-10x24 with the compact mil dot ret.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02457-1.jpg
Sick!!!!
Thanks brother:)
Cameron...I agree with you, I think your LMT Mk18 would go great with a MWS, but then again I'm biased;)
I'm surprised at just how much more "beefy" this MWS is in comparison to my MRPs.
My favorite thing thus far is this.....:cool:
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02475-1.jpg
That's not his Nightforce 1-4x24?
The one you see in my first pics before I put the 3.5-15X50 is the 1-4X24. The 2.5-10 nose is a little longer.
The only thing I worried about was at 10X what the FOV would be which is somewhat important for quick target transitions at distance...
Trident can let us know how it is when going deep on multiple targets...
Thanks brother:)
40Arpent, Dirtyboy....the special sauce was applied just for you guys:D
RE: Jon, haven't yet taken it out to shoot...the optic is NXSc 2.5-10x24 with the compact mil dot ret.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02457-1.jpg
Looks great! I am going to do one of my 5.56 in a 10-10.5 300BLK so illl be right behind you.... Okay not right behind but in 4-6 months when my two factory 10.5 LMT's are done with paperwork hell.
jonconsiglio
12-14-11, 06:47
RE: Jon, haven't yet taken it out to shoot...the optic is NXSc 2.5-10x24 with the compact mil dot ret.
You have the 2.5-10x32 as well, right? I need something to fill the gap between my Aimpoints to 4x and my variable optics which are 4-16 and 5-25. I'm thinking the 2.5-10x32 is the way to go.
Anyway, was there any reason you chose the x24 instead of the x32 for the MWS?
Nice set up on both rifles Trident:D
eternal24k
12-14-11, 09:31
Thanks brother:)
RE: Jon, haven't yet taken it out to shoot...the optic is NXSc 2.5-10x24 with the compact mil dot ret.
Is that the standard chrome lined or stainless barrel?
Fantastic looking rifle, I was dead set on an OBR, but this thread has me reconsidering
I've since stripped the Magpul panels and replaced with LaRue index clips, and ditched the AFG. Will have some new pics after I get the SS barrel in.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg403/scaled.php?server=403&filename=lmtpiglet.jpg&res=medium
You have the 2.5-10x32 as well, right? I need something to fill the gap between my Aimpoints to 4x and my variable optics which are 4-16 and 5-25. I'm thinking the 2.5-10x32 is the way to go.
Anyway, was there any reason you chose the x24 instead of the x32 for the MWS?
That's correct, I'm really a big fan of the NXS compacts and I believe that you will really like the 2.5-10x32 should you decide to go that route.
Reason I decided to temporarily go with the x24 vs. the x32 on the MWS is mainly because of the reticle in both. The reticle in the x24 is a compact mil dot. The x32 has the velocity reticle in the LV variant. While the LV is for both 5.56 and .308 type rifles, the hashes only go out to 600yds and windage is only for 5 and 10mph. It's the perfect optic for my MRP SPR, however with my plan of shooting this MWS to at least 1000yds, the mil dot reticle will make that task easier in the interim til I can afford to get the permanent NF F1.
http://i30.tinypic.com/sdz6o6.jpg
eta....Nice pig 40Arpent, I bet that sucker was dead to rights the moment it was hit with that badass MWS of yours:cool:
Looks great! I am going to do one of my 5.56 in a 10-10.5 300BLK so illl be right behind you.... Okay not right behind but in 4-6 months when my two factory 10.5 LMT's are done with paperwork hell.
Thanks, look forward to seeing that combo....I cannot wait for LMT to finally release their 300blk MRP barrels.
Nice set up on both rifles Trident:D
I appreciate it brother, the skinny one....and the fat one:D
Is that the standard chrome lined or stainless barrel?
Fantastic looking rifle, I was dead set on an OBR, but this thread has me reconsidering
Thanks, mine is the 16" CL model or the MWSE. Ultimately I plan to cut this barrel down to 13.5" and SBRing the lower since LMT more than likely won't sell me a 13.5" factory model that they are making for the MoD contract.
I don't see the 2.5-10x24 on their site anymore....
Cameron
Yep, that was a HUGE TRAGEDY when they decided to drop it from their lineup about a yr. or two ago.
I really cannot get over the fact that they did that as I believe the NXSc 2.5-10x24 is one of the all time best "tactical" pieces of glass made.
17ozs....10 inches....2.5-10x variable powered.
NF has decided to still service and keep on hand a large number of them for their military contract however my pal at NF tells me that the military is requesting far more x32s than x24s these days so apparently the military to some degree is validating their decision to only roll with the x32 in the future.
The x32 only weighs 2ozs(19ozs total) more and is only 3 inches (13") longer, how ever that sexy bell on it accounts for a significantly larger profile on a rifle imho.
Belmont31R
12-14-11, 23:37
No offense intended at anyones purchases but thats why I sold my MWS and went with the EMC related to the weight vs. accuracy discussion that was taking place. The EMC gave me the weight I wanted with the accuracy I desired (sub MOA 10 shot groups). Not with all ammo of course but Ive found a few loads that will do it with me behind the trigger.
Of course you get the price tag and I wouldn't fault anyone for choosing an MWS as you can get some very nice optics with the difference.
Congrats Trident. It sure is a big difference looking at a 308 round Vs 556. Actually feel like you are shooting a GUN not a 22LR or air gun.
VooDoo6Actual
12-15-11, 00:31
Nice blasters Gents
I'll throw this into the cogitations regarding the NF 2.5x10x24 vs. 2.5x10x32.
1) Larger exit pupil = faster target acqusition
2) 32 mm vs. 24 mm = translates to more lumens for low light situations.
At the end of the day the bottom line is:
2.5x10x24 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=10.1 mm
10x=2.5 mm
2.5x10x32 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=13.3 mm
10x=3.3 mm
I owned the 24mm obj. & currently run the 32mm obj. While they both are outstanding the times I seem to notice the differences are dawn/dusk/cloudy/foggy/rainy/smokey/heavy folliage AO's.
HTH YMMV...
No offense intended at anyones purchases but thats why I sold my MWS and went with the EMC related to the weight vs. accuracy discussion that was taking place. The EMC gave me the weight I wanted with the accuracy I desired (sub MOA 10 shot groups). Not with all ammo of course but Ive found a few loads that will do it with me behind the trigger.
Good grief, Belmont. REALLY? Can you not let one MWS thread, especially a pic thread, go by without expressing your EMC love? You've said the same thing a hundred times now and everyone knows it plenty well enough. Damn man, let us enjoy our LMT's! :)
eta....Nice pig 40Arpent, I bet that sucker was dead to rights the moment it was hit with that badass MWS of yours:cool:
Thanks buddy, it was, most assuredly. Hard to see, but the entry was right behind his left ear, point of aim, but the shot was taken from only about 115 yards. Unfortunately, due to the configuration of our deer blinds and their respective feeders, as well as the terrain, I am pretty limited on distance. I'd love to be able to take some longer shots on those swine.
Nice blasters Gents
I'll throw this into the cogitations regarding the NF 2.5x10x24 vs. 2.5x10x32.
1) Larger exit pupil = faster target acqusition
2) 32 mm vs. 24 mm = translates to more lumens for low light situations.
At the end of the day the bottom line is:
2.5x10x24 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=10.1 mm
10x=2.5 mm
2.5x10x32 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=13.3 mm
10x=3.3 mm
I owned the 24mm obj. & currently run the 32mm obj. While they both are outstanding the times I seem to notice the differences are dawn/dusk/cloudy/foggy/rainy/smokey/heavy folliage AO's.
HTH YMMV...
Thanks for the specific specs, Hoploethos. I'm looking forward to putting a x32 on my MWS for it's lowlight advantages, especially since I am back to using mine for hog hunting, and moving the x24 to a 5.56 weapon.
You have the 2.5-10x32 as well, right? I need something to fill the gap between my Aimpoints to 4x and my variable optics which are 4-16 and 5-25. I'm thinking the 2.5-10x32 is the way to go.
Anyway, was there any reason you chose the x24 instead of the x32 for the MWS?
No offense intended at anyones purchases but thats why I sold my MWS and went with the EMC related to the weight vs. accuracy discussion that was taking place. The EMC gave me the weight I wanted with the accuracy I desired (sub MOA 10 shot groups). Not with all ammo of course but Ive found a few loads that will do it with me behind the trigger.
Of course you get the price tag and I wouldn't fault anyone for choosing an MWS as you can get some very nice optics with the difference.
Congrats Trident. It sure is a big difference looking at a 308 round Vs 556. Actually feel like you are shooting a GUN not a 22LR or air gun.
Every rifle has an intended role Belmont. You sacrifice 1lb on a rifle that is primarily run static so does the weight really matter? Bolt guns in .308 weigh 3-5 lbs more but that's not a problem. Why is it important when discussing a pound difference on these rifles.
I would much rather give up a pound and have a reliable rifle that shoots anything (it was one of the Brits main requirements in the trials that they get hits out to 800 using the cheapest ammo out there)... The SR25 is a great rifle but it can be finicky and requires much more end user maintinence to maintain reliability. If weight is that big of a factor why not drop the SR25 and buy a LaRue Pred in 7.62. Very light and still gives you the accuracy that the SR gives you.
The MWS is not a run and gun .308 and anyone who thinks it is is not clear on the weapon system. I clearly agree with you that it is heavy and as you can see in my previous post I have even said it might not be the best fit for some shooters needs. I will have multiple .308 gas guns each with their own individual missions and setup for each individual role.. I love variety in firearms of all types. I just want them all to be 100% reliable.
If the MWS didn't have the modularity that it offers it would weigh the same or even less than the SR. I think many are willing to accept the trade off in weight for the added benefits of caliber and barrel change options. And if we are being honest these two rifles have a lot in common...
I have no bias when it comes to quality firearms and can't stand fanboy crap. I have been served very well over the years by Colt, Noveske, LMT, LaRue and even LWRCI... I try not to get wrapped up in one manufacture in today's day of top quality rifle makers.
I think you are a great guy, excellent poster and one who knows his shit, but I do want to keep it real. There is more to a weapon system than just its weight. If folks don't try and turn the MWS into something it's not I believe they will be very well served with one.
Belmont31R
12-15-11, 10:08
Good grief, Belmont. REALLY? Can you not let one MWS thread, especially a pic thread, go by without expressing your EMC love? You've said the same thing a hundred times now and everyone knows it plenty well enough. Damn man, let us enjoy our LMT's! :)
Sorry....:confused::(
Every rifle has an intended role Belmont. You sacrifice 1lb on a rifle that is primarily run static so does the weight really matter? Bolt guns in .308 weigh 3-5 lbs more but that's not a problem. Why is it important when discussing a pound difference on these rifles.
I would much rather give up a pound and have a reliable rifle that shoots anything (it was one of the Brits main requirements in the trials that they get hits out to 800 using the cheapest ammo out there)... The SR25 is a great rifle but it can be finicky and requires much more end user maintinence to maintain reliability. If weight is that big of a factor why not drop the SR25 and buy a LaRue Pred in 7.62. Very light and still gives you the accuracy that the SR gives you.
The MWS is not a run and gun .308 and anyone who thinks it is is not clear on the weapon system. I clearly agree with you that it is heavy and as you can see in my previous post I have even said it might not be the best fit for some shooters needs. I will have multiple .308 gas guns each with their own individual missions and setup for each individual role.. I love variety in firearms of all types. I just want them all to be 100% reliable.
If the MWS didn't have the modularity that it offers it would weigh the same or even less than the SR. I think many are willing to accept the trade off in weight for the added benefits of caliber and barrel change options. And if we are being honest these two rifles have a lot in common...
I have no bias when it comes to quality firearms and can't stand fanboy crap. I have been served very well over the years by Colt, Noveske, LMT, LaRue and even LWRCI... I try not to get wrapped up in one manufacture in today's day of top quality rifle makers.
I think you are a great guy, excellent poster and one who knows his shit, but I do want to keep it real. There is more to a weapon system than just its weight. If folks don't try and turn the MWS into something it's not I believe they will be very well served with one.
Amen. Too much else to worry about.
Nice blasters Gents
I'll throw this into the cogitations regarding the NF 2.5x10x24 vs. 2.5x10x32.
1) Larger exit pupil = faster target acqusition
2) 32 mm vs. 24 mm = translates to more lumens for low light situations.
At the end of the day the bottom line is:
2.5x10x24 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=10.1 mm
10x=2.5 mm
2.5x10x32 exit pupil specs:
2.5x=13.3 mm
10x=3.3 mm
I owned the 24mm obj. & currently run the 32mm obj. While they both are outstanding the times I seem to notice the differences are dawn/dusk/cloudy/foggy/rainy/smokey/heavy folliage AO's.
HTH YMMV...
No doubt about it pal, the EP is something to really consider on this subject. The x32 is way more forgiving and user friendly, however the x24 is just so damn sexy and sleek imho.
Trident, do I detect stippling on the ridges of that Pmag 20LR?
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02499-1.jpg
That's your 18" SPR right? Makes the .308 look small with the camera angle. I recently let my BCM SPR go in anticipation of picking up the MWS.
We need videos!!! Get your ass out and shoot it!
Cameron
Trident, do I detect stippling on the ridges of that Pmag 20LR?
Damn straight brother...I had to feed the stippling addiction the moment the eagle landed:D
Cameron...your correct, that's my MRP SPR 18". I agree it does make the MWS look rather small in comparison. My apologies on the lack of video action, I'll be getting on that ASAP:p
I'm still in the process of buying up a ton of different types of ammo for a really big accuracy evaluation and then I'll be hitting the LR locale.
My MRP Recce is pissed off at me given I borrowed some kit for it and it was not available for the family photo....
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02507-1.jpg
Damn straight brother...I had to feed the stippling addiction the moment the eagle landed:D
Assuming you have a full time job, do you ever ****ing sleep? :p That last pic....serious droolage.
Has anyone made a grip change to the MWS?
Assuming you have a full time job, do you ever ****ing sleep? :p That last pic....serious droolage.
Lol...thanks pal, I plan on sleeping plenty once I'm dead:D
D90...I about did a grip change last night and then I got to looking at the ergo stock grip some and realized that the "wedge" is most likely all one piece with the ergo thus I can't just take the "wedge" from the ergo and use it with a MOE+. I could be wrong because I never actually removed the ergo but it sure looks to be all one piece.
VooDoo6Actual
12-15-11, 15:38
Has anyone made a grip change to the MWS?
Yes, MIAD.
I just got to handle one of these for the first time today! EXCELLENT!
I cant believe how the recoil was absolutely fluid smooth and light even without a muzzle device (New York)
I guess I know where my next chunk of spending money is going :D
Yes, MIAD.
How did you handle the two springs? I went to add a MOE+ but wasn't sure what to do with the second spring... When looking at the factory ergo it didn't look like it had a second hole either but I decided against fooling with it until I knew for sure the best way to handle it.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82101
VooDoo6Actual
12-15-11, 15:53
How did you handle the two springs? I went to add a MOE+ but wasn't sure what to do with the second spring... When looking at the factory ergo it didn't look like it had a second hole either but I decided against fooling with it until I knew for sure the best way to handle it.
IIRC, adapt, innovate & overcome. I ditched it I think.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02507-1.jpg[/QUOTE]
I'd like to see the UBR installed on the MWS. That would be awesome!
FromMyColdDeadHand
12-15-11, 15:59
Has anyone made a grip change to the MWS?
Yes, MIAD.
I have MAID and the gapper to put on. I really like the ERGO feel, but the bottom plug kept on coming out. I'm also thinking about getting some 2K putty and building-up/moding the grip to get my trigger hand totally comfortable and relaxed.
Hop, one spring is for the safety and I think the other is for the rear push pin.
Dirtyboy333
12-15-11, 18:04
I put the MIAD on mine and i used the gapper that came with the Ergo. It fits perfectly between the MIAD and the KAC guard.
IIRC, adapt, innovate & overcome. I ditched it I think.
Like a Boss! :big_boss: Stay safe Brother and have a great holiday season.
I put the MIAD on mine and i used the gapper that came with the Ergo. It fits perfectly between the MIAD and the KAC guard.
So the gapper that came with your stock Ergo grip was a separate piece? My gapper was integral to the Ergo grip, non-removeable, all one piece.
Pic thread:
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/43661432.jpg
^^^SWEET^^^ That Bobro mount looks slick as hell, I bet you like the hassle free adjustment on it vs. the Larue or ADM mounts.
LRB45...I like your thinking, I hope to put a UBR on mine here pretty soon. Gotta work out the spring and buffer situation though.
After using Geissele triggers almost exclusively with an occasional KAC 2stage match, this LMT 2stager has got to go pretty soon. I hope to adding a BAD-A.S.S. ST for sure as well. Tonight or tomorrow I will be throwing on a BABC.
I wish I could find some real deal M118 LR (Lake City)...shit is rarer than hen's teeth:D
Dirtyboy333
12-16-11, 03:41
So the gapper that came with your stock Ergo grip was a separate piece? My gapper was integral to the Ergo grip, non-removeable, all one piece.
I could have sworn it was 2 pieces but now you have me thinking.:confused: Well, if it was 1 piece then i guess i cut it and put it in there but i would have thought i would've remembered that.
Either way I do know that it was from the stock Ergo grip and it fits between the MIAD and KAC guard nicely. If you want a pic of it just lemme know.
If you want a pic of it just lemme know.
No pics required, at least not until I can verify that I am not lying (because like you, you have ME thinking now....LOL).
I replaced my stock black Ergo grip with the same grip in tan, and I was 99% sure that both had a built-in gapper. Gotta check that out when I get home tonight. ;)
That Bobro mount looks slick as hell, I bet you like the hassle free adjustment on it vs. the Larue or ADM mounts.
How is the Bobro better in regards to adjustments? Not familiar with their mounts (only have one, for an Aimpoint, and it's still in the box it came in).
BTW Trident, clean out your PM box....I guess I clogged it up. :D
bnanaphone
12-16-11, 11:08
The Bobro mounts are fantastic. They don't have any nut or screw that you need to manually adjust when going from rail to rail. Just put the mount on your gun and swing the lever into place, done.
I currently have one Bobro scope mount (soon to be two), one Larue scope mount and one ADM QD on my Atlas. The Larue is being replaced...... Nothing wrong with the Larue, I just prefer the Bobro design more.
Dirtyboy333
12-16-11, 11:54
That Bobro concept seems pretty nice!!! I've never tried one but i've been very satisfied with ADM. In all honesty the ADM's are nothing to adjust for a new rail considering you just turn the nut with your fingers.
Never used the Larue mounting system either but I will soon with the integral bipod mount.
How is the Bobro better in regards to adjustments? Not familiar with their mounts (only have one, for an Aimpoint, and it's still in the box it came in).
BTW Trident, clean out your PM box....I guess I clogged it up. :D
Don't get me wrong, I'm still an ADM man, the Bobro has a couple things that would prevent me from jumping the ADM ship. That said, the Bobro's method of adjusting is very sweet. Its completely hassle free because unlike ADM's screw that you have to adjust or Larue's nut that requires an actual tool, the Bobro simply doesn't need any manual adjustment.
http://www.maxicon.com/guns/optics/one_piece/bobro_base-1.jpg
eternal24k
12-17-11, 13:22
Do any other upper receivers work with the MWS? And any chance LMT would sell uppers?
I really want the 16" but would also like an 18-20" for punching paper long distance.
I've since stripped the Magpul panels and replaced with LaRue index clips, and ditched the AFG. Will have some new pics after I get the SS barrel in.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg403/scaled.php?server=403&filename=lmtpiglet.jpg&res=medium
Now at least we know where tactical bacon comes from. :D
Do any other upper receivers work with the MWS? And any chance LMT would sell uppers?
I really want the 16" but would also like an 18-20" for punching paper long distance.
Just swap the barrel? Not sure what you are asking here
eternal24k
12-17-11, 17:49
Just swap the barrel? Not sure what you are asking here
I am asking if other brands of uppers work with the MWS lower or if LMT will sell uppers. I prefer dedicated uppers and do not want to re-zero or confirm zero every barrel swap.
EMCs, EMRs, Larue OBRs/PredatARs...should all work on the MWS lower.
Bear in mind the KAC SR25 EMC/EMR lower and the LMT MWS lower and for all practically purposes the exact same lower...minus the roll mark.
The problem with this is two fold...LMT, KAC, or Larue to my knowledge will not sell complete uppers or complete lowers for that matter so...LMT won't even sell a spare bolt currently due to the British, and New Zealand military contracts, not to mention the U.S civi demand for complete rifles. The second aspect is that all the cost is in the uppers for the most part. Buying one of these complete rifles vs. just a complete upper wouldn't really be that prudent, considering for just a bit more you might as well have the whole rifle.
In regards to barrel swapping and RTZing using the same barrel in the same chassis... you will experience absolutely zero shift and you will return to the zero as before. I have done this so many times with my several MRP chassis and barrels that I can assure you that unless you go to another caliber or different all together barrel, your GTG.
The MRP/MWS chassis is a freak...I take my NXSc off a 16" MRP Recce and pop it on a totally different MRP CQB rifle and the optic has literally zero windage shift...only elevation shift due to barrel length/velocity differences. So if you can essentially return optics to zero across difference chassis, with different barrels(windage wise), swapping the exact same barrel back and forth on the exact same chassis is a no brainier:)
eternal24k
12-17-11, 18:55
That's impressive and good to hear. I was wondering if a Mega or Armalite upper would work.
I have heard the theory regarding zero and bbl swap, but its good to hear from someone who has put this to test.
A guy who has as much fine china as you, should at least dabble with the MRP/MWS platform imho:p
I knew I had to get a second MWS to SBR....I've been going bonkers over the 13.5" MWS that LMT apparently only makes for the MoD. MoD is also apparently getting them equipped with f**king happy switches. A 13.5" MWS with a happy switch just made the KAC PDW in my dreams seem silly and immature:cool:
This right here sealed the deal with me in regards to having a dedicated SBR MWS....WOW!!!
http://www.modernbattlerifles.com/forum/images/MWS13B.jpg
http://www.modernbattlerifles.com/forum/images/MWS13A.jpg
http://www.modernbattlerifles.com/forum/images/MWS13C.jpg
LMT MWS 13.5" Battle Carbine (http://www.modernbattlerifles.com/forum/showthread.php?32-LMT-MWS-13.5-quot-Battle-Carbine)
Interestingly in the thread you linked to the guy had to dial in 3.5MOA of windage when switching from the 16" to 13" barrels, in addition to the 5MOA elevation he needed for velocity loss.
Cameron
jonconsiglio
12-17-11, 20:41
Interestingly in the thread you linked to the guy had to dial in 3.5MOA of windage when switching from the 16" to 13" barrels, in addition to the 5MOA elevation he needed for velocity loss.
Cameron
I don't believe the 5 MOA elevation adjustment was due to velocity loss. At 100 or 200 meters, there should be less drop than 5 MOA due to less velocity.
I would expect everything to shift. If it doesn't, like many experience with the MRP, then that's a bonus. Seeing as I'd want to check my zero even if there was no expected zero shift, like I do with suppressors, it wouldn't be an issue to dial it in if needed.
9.5 pounds is pretty heavy for an SBR, so I'm not sure how worth it would be for my needs. I can't see working around vehicles with it unless I was hunting, and in that case the shorter barrel wouldn't make much difference.
I can see keeping an MWS (or SR25) in a semi precision role and keeping the 13.5" barrel in my SCAR H a higher percentage of the time.
Good stuff, looking forward to more range reportsor some videos.
Interestingly in the thread you linked to the guy had to dial in 3.5MOA of windage when switching from the 16" to 13" barrels, in addition to the 5MOA elevation he needed for velocity loss.
Cameron
Taking my NXSc 2.5 from the MRP Recce 16" 5R SS(I believe the 5R hand lapped SS barrel generates a little bit more velocity than an equilivent CL 16")....to my MRP CQB 10.5" CL, as noted above I have zero windage shift, however I have to dial in 2.5MOA for the velocity difference in elevation b/t the two. I have actually repeated this "swap over" 4-5 times now. It's the exact same every time.
Great catch while you were reading, I must have skimmed past that. This stuff interests me enormously.
You remember my LR steel video at IIrc 725 yds. where I started out with my normal config'd MRP SPR w/ 18 5R SS barrel...had it perfectly zero'd on the steel at that distance, and then unscrewed the two bolts...slide out the 18 5R SS barrel and installed the 16" 5R SS barrel and made absolutely no dope prior to then engaging the steel with the new configuration.
The total adjustments dialed in were as follows once I saw the initial splash of the new setup....it several feet low, and just a cpl. feet to the left. That equated to 9clicks(1/4moa) elevation dialed in.....3clicks(1/4moa) windage dialed in.
So I literally pulled an 18" barrel, installed a totally different 16" barrel and @ 725yds that was all the adjustment needed in order to then bring the new 16" config onto the steel.
I remember you because you had interest in this and understand I believe quite clearly what I was displaying....I believe it went past the majority of the readers and viewers in the "Battle for Light Precision Supremacy" thread.
Ok gents, if your still tracking here with respect to going from the MRP Recce to the MRP CQB discussion, get a load of this....
I took the same NXSc 2.5 in question from above that was previously zero'd perfectly for the MRP CQB 10.5" @ 100yds.....QD'd it and it went directly onto the new MWS as already depicted. This morning was the very first time to put a round down it and thereby first time to see what corrections or adjustments the NXSc 2.5 needed going from a....
10.5" CL 5.56 barrel
TO A
16" CL .308 barrel
The highest hole on the target marked "1" right below the top of the target is no shit the VERY FIRST ROUND FIRED on the MWS with the previously 10.5" CL 5.56 doped NXSc.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02528.jpg
I swear on everything that is holy, I normally don't even try to explain or relate this stuff but I think some of you guys understand this. CRAZY!
I'm wondering how much I can shave off the barrel and still maintain good accuracy.
Thanks friend, the Atlas you so generously provided me with goes absolutely perfect with this rifle. Once again, a million thanks for that amazing gesture on your part:)
D90, Jon, bnanaphone...I really appreciate the kind words gents:)
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02463-1.jpg
Now that looks more like a Trident weapon. Very cool. Enjoy, I took a picture of mine today, but Markm was shooting it at 0dark30, and we were checking muzzle flash with the 16CL and BC on it. Little flash, not much.
PM me or Mark your address and we'll see if Santa can't get you a few of Mark's 175gr laser beams.
Now that looks more like a Trident weapon. Very cool. Enjoy, I took a picture of mine today, but Markm was shooting it at 0dark30, and we were checking muzzle flash with the 16CL and BC on it. Little flash, not much.
PM me or Mark your address and we'll see if Santa can't get you a few of Mark's 175gr laser beams.
What's the magic load for the 16CL? What kind of accuracy are you getting?
That's impressive and good to hear. I was wondering if a Mega or Armalite upper would work.
I have heard the theory regarding zero and bbl swap, but its good to hear from someone who has put this to test.
He speaks the truth... I have had the same experience and not had zero issues and have been running MRP's since 08 in both 5.56 and 6.8... It's a great platform.
Stoked for the 300BLK barrels...:cool:
Ok gents, if your still tracking here with respect to going from the MRP Recce to the MRP CQB discussion, get a load of this....
I took the same NXSc 2.5 in question from above that was previously zero'd perfectly for the MRP CQB 10.5" @ 100yds.....QD'd it and it went directly onto the new MWS as already depicted. This morning was the very first time to put a round down it and thereby first time to see what corrections or adjustments the NXSc 2.5 needed going from a....
10.5" CL 5.56 barrel
TO A
16" CL .308 barrel
The highest hole on the target marked "1" right below the top of the target is no shit the VERY FIRST ROUND FIRED on the MWS with the previously 10.5" CL 5.56 doped NXSc.
http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac81/trident1982/DSC02528.jpg
I swear on everything that is holy, I normally don't even try to explain or relate this stuff but I think some of you guys understand this. CRAZY!
What ammo? Going out today to see how it likes 175gr GMM.... Keep us posted on ammo selection.
eternal24k
12-18-11, 10:17
He speaks the truth... I have had the same experience and not had zero issues and have been running MRP's since 08 in both 5.56 and 6.8... It's a great platform.
Stoked for the 300BLK barrels...:cool:
you guys are killing me. I was dead set on an 18" OBR, but I really would like to use 1 lower for a precision and a battle rifle.
Last question since this is a pic thread, best place to order an MWS?
Dirtyboy333
12-18-11, 10:54
you guys are killing me. I was dead set on an 18" OBR, but I really would like to use 1 lower for a precision and a battle rifle.
Last question since this is a pic thread, best place to order an MWS?
I ordered mine from Kentucky Gun Co. for $2,319 plus the 3% for a debit card and $20 shipping. To my dealer it was $2,409.
At the time it was the best price i could find and what was great is that they shipped the same day. I love that!!! (i despise waiting around for dealers to ship things when they feel like it)
What's the magic load for the 16CL? What kind of accuracy are you getting?
I was running 175's with 43.8 varget. I retested accuracy before moving out to 500 for groups.
I shot a quick 3 shot group to confirm the load still worked.
It shot on a clover leaf. We got 2550fps out of the MWS.
Mark also rolled some IMR that worked well but I can't remember the load. Maybe he can say.
The gun shoots a lot of ammo good for a gas gun with 16 inch CL, like 1.5 inches. But gets real picky to get below an inch.For factory ammo it liked "custom Nosler" $25 /box quite well.
I was running 175's with 43.8 varget. I retested accuracy before moving out to 500 for groups.
I shot a quick 3 shot group to confirm the load still worked.
It shot on a clover leaf. We got 2550fps out of the MWS.
Mark also rolled some IMR that worked well but I can't remember the load. Maybe he can say.
The gun shoots a lot of ammo good for a gas gun with 16 inch CL, like 1.5 inches. But gets real picky to get below an inch.For factory ammo it liked "custom Nosler" $25 /box quite well.
Roger that! Thanks for the data. I would much rather a .308 gas gun that eats anything and shoots anything around MOA to one that is finicky on what ammo runs in it...
I have a thousand rounds of 175gr GMM that I'm optimistic about... Did you see the groups that Trident posted?
you guys are killing me. I was dead set on an 18" OBR, but I really would like to use 1 lower for a precision and a battle rifle.
Last question since this is a pic thread, best place to order an MWS?
I'm more than happy to ping my guys and see how cheap they would cut one. It's weird, I think there must have been a price increase because the day after I bought mine their shelf price was $200 more than what the shelf price that was on mine... I have a feeling it will be in the $2300-2400 price point.
Does Grant have any?
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