SGL21-94

[Moose-Knuckle]

Closest thing we can get to a real Russian AK-103!

http://www.arsenalinc.com/usa/product.php?productid=60&cat=8&page=1

Or for those of us that missed the SLR-107.

[TOrrock]

Pretty cool.

Looks like Arsenal Inc. has pretty much figured that dealing with the Bulgarians was a loosing proposition. Hopefully the Russians will be a more reliable source.

[texasyid]

been looking at that one. Very cool. The price is more than I am willing to pay but would love to have one.

[jimmyp]

would the price from K-VAR be a bit less?

[Moose-Knuckle]

Hopefully the Russians will be a more reliable source.

I hope so, I'd rather have Izhmash proof marks anyway.


been looking at that one.

They were just annouced. . .:confused:


would the price from K-VAR be a bit less?

Doubt it, as they are sister companies.

[texasyid]

They were just annouced. . .Arsenal just sent the email out. They have been on the KVAR site for awhile.

[rojocorsa]

Awesomesauce.

[148259]

AK prices have gotten out of control. It's a stamped receiver ak for Gods sake.

[helothar]

yeah the prices seem a little high as SLR107s were around ~700 when they first came out

[TOrrock]

yeah the prices seem a little high as SLR107s were around ~700 when they first came out

Yep, and that was several years ago from an entirely different company in an entirely different country.

The gunsmithing to install an AKS-74/AK-100 series stock is substantial. Price what that costs, without the hardware, from a reputable and recognized smith.

[helothar]

Yep, and that was several years ago from an entirely different company in an entirely different country.

The gunsmithing to install an AKS-74/AK-100 series stock is substantial. Price what that costs, without the hardware, from a reputable and recognized smith.

No argument here, I have a kit build 74 on a NDS receiver and I probably have at least 100 or 200 more into it than a factory SGL31-94 costs. Part of the game I guess.

[jimmyp]

AK prices have gotten out of control. It's a stamped receiver ak for Gods sake.

In from 2000-2007 I could buy an ounce gold coin for $500.00. Your dollar has shrunk quite a bit. If I buy another AK I am pretty sure that 5 more years from now it will probably be worth more in paper money than I will pay today.

[148259]

In from 2000-2007 I could buy an ounce gold coin for $500.00. Your dollar has shrunk quite a bit. If I buy another AK I am pretty sure that 5 more years from now it will probably be worth more in paper money than I will pay today.
You are right of course, the dollar has lost 20% of it's value since 2000. I just remember when I paid $250 for my intrac Maadi, and we just laughed at the quality compared to my AR's. Now I know the arsenal are the best of the AK's, I almost bought a arsenal myself but opted for a Polish RPD instead. Now that's a weapon! More money of course.

[snappy]

Hoping that there will be some of these made with the "CR" front end. Please. :dirol:

[fhpchris]

You are right of course, the dollar has lost 20% of it's value since 2000. I just remember when I paid $250 for my intrac Maadi, and we just laughed at the quality compared to my AR's. Now I know the arsenal are the best of the AK's, I almost bought a arsenal myself but opted for a Polish RPD instead. Now that's a weapon! More money of course.

I really want to see a Polish RPD in person :)

As much as I want a SLR-107 or other newer AK-103 clone, I think I would much rather have a Khyber'd RPK or other BFPU looking rifle.

I really do not want a rifle that has SAIGA stamped all across the side...

[Junkyard111]

Hoping that there will be some of these made with the "CR" front end. Please. :dirol:

count me in on that. I am truely hopeful.


Jason

[Awake]

How does it compare to the SLR-107 Series?

Better?
About Same?
Materials?
Barrel?
Overall Fit and finish etc...

Thanks!

[bondmid003]

Hopefully someone has a review soon, I'd like a comparison to the SLR as well.

[snackgunner]

Hopefully someone has a review soon, I'd like a comparison to the SLR as well.

Bump for this.

[oef24]

Here is a good video review of the rifle. From what I have heard, the 2 main differences between the SLR-107 series and the SGL21 series is:
-SLR-107 have spring loaded firing pins, SGL21's do not.
-SLR-107 have grip reinforcement plate, SGL21s do not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpWtw7SClL4

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[Awake]

What about barrel quality?

[TOrrock]

What about barrel quality?


Cold hammer forged hard chrome lined. Yes, quality.

Exactly the same barrel that goes in the military rifles.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Templar, what do you think about these rifles not having the reinforcement plates at the grip. . .GTG or NG?

[DWood]

Templar, what do you think about these rifles not having the reinforcement plates at the grip. . .GTG or NG?

Not Templar, but also not concerned about a lack of a reinforcing plate on the Arsenal. If I were, I suppose I could have my E93 sling adapter spot welded to the receiver to reinforce it. But, since I'm not concerned about it, I haven't.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/AK%20Photos/DSC_0484.jpg

[TOrrock]

Templar, what do you think about these rifles not having the reinforcement plates at the grip. . .GTG or NG?


Nice to have, but I don't see it making any practical difference.

I might put a 100 peso bounty on a damaged receiver that didn't have the plate installed.....seeing as how 10's of millions of AK's are out in the world without it.

Honestly, I view it as a non issue.

[Turnkey11]

Hoping that there will be some of these made with the "CR" front end. Please. :dirol:

Only if transferable on a form 4...Id prefer the -UR myself.

[Moose-Knuckle]

Dwood, Templar. . .thanks for the info.