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Jason Falla
05-13-11, 07:44
I will be putting together a course of fire that I will post on all electronic social media sources for our students to practice either for your own professional development or for training purposes to get yourself ready for the next RB1 course.
These standards will include drills that will reflect the competencies gained during build up training from RB1's series of professional development courses.
This course of fire be considered 'the standard' and serve as a 'Go/No Go' criteria for attending advanced training with RB1. Stand by for more details!
That'd be great Jason specially one each for Carbine, Pistol and perhaps even a Carbine/Pistol course. Something to practice and also minimum standards. Very thoughtful and accommodating of you.
Also, it all goes towards getting maximum quality training time with proper preparations (environmental and range conditions permitting). Like Jason mentioned in another post for a Carbine course:
For the enrolled students, make sure that you arrive with your rifle zeroed! This will save about 1-3 hours of training time. I recommend a 50/200m zero, but this training will focus on advanced weapons manipulations and movement training.
Make sure you have good ammo and plenty of lube on the working parts to keep that gun going!
Check ALL of your accoutrements on your guns. Anything that has a QD lever, check for fit and anything that has a screw thread attachment, make sure it's finger tight then tighten it 1/4 turn with a screw driver.
Batteries! Make sure you have spares for anything that takes them.
Magazines! Do a 100% check on ALL of your mags and get rid of any that are suspect. Mag Test #1 - Fill it up and hit the bottom, see if any rounds spring out! If so, walk it to the trash can and deposit it!
I will be running full kit while on the range, that means armor, belt order and full combat uniform and gloves. I don't mind what my students train in, so feel free to bring your range rigs.
Great idea.....looking forward to it.
Jason Falla
05-14-11, 11:04
I have just posted the Redback One - Pistol Shooting Standards on the RB1 FB page. Please visit the following link to view.
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&¬e_id=223140164362931&id=201698463173768
Redback One
05-14-11, 16:14
Jason's posted the Redback One carbine shooting standards as well:
http://www.facebook.com/notes/redback-one/redback-one-carbine-shooting-standards/223198381023776
Targets for these are standard IPSC?
Based on his classes and Facebook posts, Jason mentions the RB1 Silhoutette Target (http://www.redbackone.com/combat-training-targets) which is basically an IDPA target. For these standards he adds a 7" circle for the pelvis zone. So, the scoring zones are 6" square head, 8" center mass circle and 6" pelvis square.
Nice adaptation of the Hackathorn and 10-8 drills. Covers the bases. Thanks for sharing and will give it a go. :)
I just shot it before starting work today. Not bad. I thought I'd do better but there was time where I was rushing shots and still have a bunch of time left over.
Glock 17 in a Safariland 6004 Thigh holster reloading from concealment in a shirt and tie
RB1 Pistol Shooting Standards 5/15/2011
7 Meters
1rd body (2 sec) 1.62
2rds body (2.5 sec) 2.02
6rds body (5 sec) 3.4
1 reload 1 body (5 sec) 3.75
10 reload 10 body (17 sec) 10.46
10 Meters
5 head 'Re' 5 body 'Re' 5 pelvis 11.25 -1
16 seconds
20 Meters
5rds body [standing] (10 sec) 8.20 -2
3rds body [stand to kneel] (6 sec) 4.34 -2
5rds body [stand to prone] (12sec) 10.68 -1
25 Meters Vertical Cover
2 strong side body, 2 weak (12 sec) 10.10 -2
6 strong side body, tac reload
6rds kneeling strong side (25 sec) 24.48 -4
Score 63/75
Good stuff Jason! Its nice to have some new standards to run and stay sharp with.
Jason Falla
05-15-11, 23:20
I have updated the RB1 Pistol and Carbine Standards to include target information for those that do not have RB1 targets.
I shot this drill today, first time, cold. Since I have shot the Hack and 10-8 a few times I figured I would attempt to push the speeds and really challenge myself with the times. Overall it is a good test of a shooters various skills and fundamentals. On the downside, I really like simple drills with similar times and not needing to drag out barricades. I understand the reasoning but heck I get lazy at times. ;)
Anyway I shot a video, of course, but the battery died at the 20m line. Maybe I will try to get another video run and shoot it up and up without rushing the pace and attempt to run it clean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEJ7xMYE48&feature=player_embedded
Serial 1 – 7 meters
* 1 body – 2.00 sec - Shot in 1.60 - No misses
* 2 body – 2.50 sec - Shot in 1.88 - No misses
* 6 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.50 - No misses
* 1 reload 1 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.94 - No misses
Serial 2 – 7 meters
* 10 reload 10 body – 17.00 sec - Shot in 11.69 - 1 Miss
Serial 3 – 10 meters
* 5 head reload, 5 body reload, 5 pelvis – 16.00 sec - Shot in 15.08 sec - No Misses
Serial 4 – 20 meters
* 5 body (standing) – 10.00 sec - Shot in 7.21 sec - No Misses
* 3 body (stand to knee) – 6.00 sec - Shot in 4.51 sec - No Misses
* 5 body (stand to prone) – 12.00 sec - Shot in 8.71 sec - 1 Miss
Serial 5 – 25 meters vertical cover
* 2 body SSC, 2 body WSC – 12.00 sec - Shot in 7.69 - 1 Miss
* 6 body SSC, tac reload, 6 kneeling SSC - 25 secs - Shot in 15.38 - 2 Misses
Total Score = 70 / 75
30 cal slut
05-17-11, 07:52
Jason,
Thanks for sharing these.
I have a question on the carbine standards ... Serial 8, second bullet point:
5 rounds body strong side cover, transition 5 rounds strong side cover – 16 sec
Did you mean to say:
5 rounds body strong side cover, transition 5 rounds weak side cover – 16 sec
I'm assuming vertical cover means a barricade?
Thanks!
-slut
I read "transition" to mean going to pistol as Serial 8 Bullet Point 1 clearly states "weak side cover, support shoulder"
30 cal slut
05-17-11, 08:43
I read "transition" to mean going to pistol as Serial 8 Bullet Point 1 clearly states "weak side cover, support shoulder"
gotcha, that makes sense, thanks. still working on my first cup of coffee.
Jason Falla
05-18-11, 11:10
I read "transition" to mean going to pistol as Serial 8 Bullet Point 1 clearly states "weak side cover, support shoulder"
Roger Treehopr, transition to pistol and complete the string.
Redback One
05-18-11, 15:20
Nice one Surf, thanks for sharing. I've posted a link to your video on our Facebook page.
I shot this drill today, first time, cold. Since I have shot the Hack and 10-8 a few times I figured I would attempt to push the speeds and really challenge myself with the times. Overall it is a good test of a shooters various skills and fundamentals. On the downside, I really like simple drills with similar times and not needing to drag out barricades. I understand the reasoning but heck I get lazy at times. ;)
Anyway I shot a video, of course, but the battery died at the 20m line. Maybe I will try to get another video run and shoot it up and up without rushing the pace and attempt to run it clean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEJ7xMYE48&feature=player_embedded
Serial 1 – 7 meters
* 1 body – 2.00 sec - Shot in 1.60 - No misses
* 2 body – 2.50 sec - Shot in 1.88 - No misses
* 6 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.50 - No misses
* 1 reload 1 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.94 - No misses
Serial 2 – 7 meters
* 10 reload 10 body – 17.00 sec - Shot in 11.69 - 1 Miss
Serial 3 – 10 meters
* 5 head reload, 5 body reload, 5 pelvis – 16.00 sec - Shot in 15.08 sec - No Misses
Serial 4 – 20 meters
* 5 body (standing) – 10.00 sec - Shot in 7.21 sec - No Misses
* 3 body (stand to knee) – 6.00 sec - Shot in 4.51 sec - No Misses
* 5 body (stand to prone) – 12.00 sec - Shot in 8.71 sec - 1 Miss
Serial 5 – 25 meters vertical cover
* 2 body SSC, 2 body WSC – 12.00 sec - Shot in 7.69 - 1 Miss
* 6 body SSC, tac reload, 6 kneeling SSC - 25 secs - Shot in 15.38 - 2 Misses
Total Score = 70 / 75
I shot this drill today, first time, cold. Since I have shot the Hack and 10-8 a few times I figured I would attempt to push the speeds and really challenge myself with the times. Overall it is a good test of a shooters various skills and fundamentals. On the downside, I really like simple drills with similar times and not needing to drag out barricades. I understand the reasoning but heck I get lazy at times. ;)
Anyway I shot a video, of course, but the battery died at the 20m line. Maybe I will try to get another video run and shoot it up and up without rushing the pace and attempt to run it clean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEJ7xMYE48&feature=player_embedded
Serial 1 – 7 meters
* 1 body – 2.00 sec - Shot in 1.60 - No misses
* 2 body – 2.50 sec - Shot in 1.88 - No misses
* 6 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.50 - No misses
* 1 reload 1 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.94 - No misses
Serial 2 – 7 meters
* 10 reload 10 body – 17.00 sec - Shot in 11.69 - 1 Miss
Serial 3 – 10 meters
* 5 head reload, 5 body reload, 5 pelvis – 16.00 sec - Shot in 15.08 sec - No Misses
Serial 4 – 20 meters
* 5 body (standing) – 10.00 sec - Shot in 7.21 sec - No Misses
* 3 body (stand to knee) – 6.00 sec - Shot in 4.51 sec - No Misses
* 5 body (stand to prone) – 12.00 sec - Shot in 8.71 sec - 1 Miss
Serial 5 – 25 meters vertical cover
* 2 body SSC, 2 body WSC – 12.00 sec - Shot in 7.69 - 1 Miss
* 6 body SSC, tac reload, 6 kneeling SSC - 25 secs - Shot in 15.38 - 2 Misses
Total Score = 70 / 75
Good shooting Surf!
I shot this drill today, first time, cold. Since I have shot the Hack and 10-8 a few times I figured I would attempt to push the speeds and really challenge myself with the times. Overall it is a good test of a shooters various skills and fundamentals. On the downside, I really like simple drills with similar times and not needing to drag out barricades. I understand the reasoning but heck I get lazy at times. ;)
Anyway I shot a video, of course, but the battery died at the 20m line. Maybe I will try to get another video run and shoot it up and up without rushing the pace and attempt to run it clean.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEJ7xMYE48&feature=player_embedded
Serial 1 – 7 meters
* 1 body – 2.00 sec - Shot in 1.60 - No misses
* 2 body – 2.50 sec - Shot in 1.88 - No misses
* 6 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.50 - No misses
* 1 reload 1 body – 5.00 sec - Shot in 3.94 - No misses
Serial 2 – 7 meters
* 10 reload 10 body – 17.00 sec - Shot in 11.69 - 1 Miss
Serial 3 – 10 meters
* 5 head reload, 5 body reload, 5 pelvis – 16.00 sec - Shot in 15.08 sec - No Misses
Serial 4 – 20 meters
* 5 body (standing) – 10.00 sec - Shot in 7.21 sec - No Misses
* 3 body (stand to knee) – 6.00 sec - Shot in 4.51 sec - No Misses
* 5 body (stand to prone) – 12.00 sec - Shot in 8.71 sec - 1 Miss
Serial 5 – 25 meters vertical cover
* 2 body SSC, 2 body WSC – 12.00 sec - Shot in 7.69 - 1 Miss
* 6 body SSC, tac reload, 6 kneeling SSC - 25 secs - Shot in 15.38 - 2 Misses
Total Score = 70 / 75
Nice run...is that the Koko Head range?
Nice one Surf, thanks for sharing. I've posted a link to your video on our Facebook page.Thanks, always nice to support good people like yourselves. I have enjoyed Jason's drills on video and would love to train with him and the folks at RB1 in the future. My plate has been so full with various courses this past year, that I would love to get in a trip and just be on the shooting line side of things for a change, but it is only going to get worse for the remainder of this year. Maybe 2012. :)
Good shooting Surf!Always appreciated my friend!
Nice run...is that the Koko Head range?Paradise sux. :cool:
Can you clarify a couple of things on your Carbine standards?
*A pic of your "High Ready" Position for reference would be helpful.
*On Serial #3: (1 round body, transition, 1 round body, reload, 1 round body - 11.00 sec) Does this call for 1 round Rifle, transition, 1 round Pistol, reload, 1 round Rifle?
Can you clarify a couple of things on your Carbine standards?
*A pic of your "High Ready" Position for reference would be helpful.
*On Serial #3: (1 round body, transition, 1 round body, reload, 1 round body - 11.00 sec) Does this call for 1 round Rifle, transition, 1 round Pistol, reload, 1 round Rifle?
Regarding the 3rd drill in Serial #3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As5IISC4d20
I think this is what you're looking for.
Jason Falla
05-19-11, 07:02
Can you clarify a couple of things on your Carbine standards?
*A pic of your "High Ready" Position for reference would be helpful.
*On Serial #3: (1 round body, transition, 1 round body, reload, 1 round body - 11.00 sec) Does this call for 1 round Rifle, transition, 1 round Pistol, reload, 1 round Rifle?
That's correct, 1 carbine, 1 Pistol, 1 Carbine.
I will get a photo and post it on the FB page with the standards.
Jason Falla
05-19-11, 07:04
Regarding the 3rd drill in Serial #3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As5IISC4d20
I think this is what you're looking for.
Yep, that's it all right!
Yep, that's it all right!
Good stuff, Thank you gentlemen!
Redback One
05-19-11, 15:04
No worries, it's good to have supporters such as yourself, thanks for that. We completely understand how hard it is to make time for yourself while maintaining a busy schedule but we'd love to see you on an RB1 course one day, even if it's in 2012. The video is good stuff, nice shooting and thanks again for sharing.
Thanks, always nice to support good people like yourselves. I have enjoyed Jason's drills on video and would love to train with him and the folks at RB1 in the future. My plate has been so full with various courses this past year, that I would love to get in a trip and just be on the shooting line side of things for a change, but it is only going to get worse for the remainder of this year. Maybe 2012. :)
Always appreciated my friend!
Paradise sux. :cool:
I got around to running the carbine drill. Good stuff! Thanks again for doing what you all do! :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOVxzbQnV8E&feature=channel_video_title
Jason Falla
06-07-11, 21:26
Can you clarify a couple of things on your Carbine standards?
*A pic of your "High Ready" Position for reference would be helpful.
*On Serial #3: (1 round body, transition, 1 round body, reload, 1 round body - 11.00 sec) Does this call for 1 round Rifle, transition, 1 round Pistol, reload, 1 round Rifle?
The true position of the high ready is always a contentious one. I have written a description of both the high and low ready positions on the RB1 FB page notes. I have now attached some photos in that same location that replicate the high ready as closely as possible, taken from previous courses.
If you have any other further questions please feel free to contact us.
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