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M4Carbine.net is proud to offer its first training class of the year! A lot of Civilian shooters do not get the opportunity to participate in scenario-based training. M4Carbine.net will address this deficiency! Now, onto the good stuff!
This is an advanced carbine class. Participants are required to have completed at least 24-40hrs of basic carbine training. There will be a lot of moving and shooting, vehicle platform shooting & night shooting! Operating in a team environment will be emphasized. Each day will build your skills toward completing a mission on the final day of training.
The training facility is located in Canton, Ohio and discounted room rates will be available at the Hilton.
Our very own KevinB will be teaching the class. Kevin has a wide ranging skill set from his many years spent in the Canadian Army to working PSD in Afghanistan.
Details on the class:
Sept. 29, 30 Oct. 1
Cost is $500 per student (includes catered lunch each day).
Round count for AR is 1,750 and pistol is 600
Suggested gear:
SBR & Precision oriented AR, but not needed to attend
Weapon & handheld lights
7-10 Mags
Hydration system
Chest Harness or any system capable of holding 4-6 mags
Protective eyes & ears
There are only 12 slots open so reserve yours ASAP! Please e-mail questions to staff@m4carbine.net
Range pics
250yd Range
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/GTA/250yd%20Rifle%20Range.JPG
Water ops anyone?
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/GTA/Rifle%20Range%20(pond).JPG
Jungle road
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/GTA/Jungle%20lane%203.JPG
Pistol Range
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/GTA/Pistol%20Range%202.JPG
Derek_Connor
08-13-06, 11:23
If this wasn't a 3 day class, and a 2 day, it would be a no brainer for me.
Great looking range and I bet Kevin will put on a good class. Unfortunately, I have date conflicts as well.
I am very interested, but I don't have an SBR or a precision AR. I just have a regular 16". Will this preclude me from being able to attend the class? Not having worked around vehicles, I am particularly concerned with whether it will be possible to use such a long barrel.
If this wasn't a 3 day class, and a 2 day, it would be a no brainer for me.
In order to get everything into the class, we had to push it to three days.
I am very interested, but I don't have an SBR or a precision AR. I just have a regular 16". Will this preclude me from being able to attend the class? Not having worked around vehicles, I am particularly concerned with whether it will be possible to use such a long barrel.
You do not need an SBR or precision weapon and will remove that part. You will engage targets at various ranges and accuracy will be stressed.
Most of the vehicle shooting will be on the back of a pick up so you can shoot any weapon you like.
Great looking range and I bet Kevin will put on a good class. Unfortunately, I have date conflicts as well.
The range is first rate (is the range that Hackathorn used in the current issues of Combat Tactics) and Kevin is known for his technical knowledge on gear & deployed for the war on terrorism.
Interesting, and close by.
Jeremy
[SIZE="2"] Participants are required to have completed at least 24-40hrs of basic carbine training.
Would a single 3 day Carbine/Pisol Class at Blackwater be enough to qualify an individual?
ETA: Dont worry about hurting my feelings, if not, I understand completely.
Thanks, Josh
Would a single 3 day Carbine/Pisol Class at Blackwater be enough to qualify an individual?
ETA: Dont worry about hurting my feelings, if not, I understand completely.
Thanks, Josh
Josh,
Yes that is enough. We basicially don't want this class to be anyones FIRST Carbine class as the tempo will be fast and shooters will be expected to know all the basics.
Since Kevin is teaching, does that mean the price is in Canadian dollars? :p
I'd love to go, but dates conflict with a TriCon advanced pistol course.
I wouldn't let Kevin teach me how to attack a shithouse. :D Don't worry bro. you are not missing anything.
Dude -- I'll email you the info.
Watch your back your TL was the guy who tried to screw Rocky...
Nathan_Bell
08-24-06, 21:52
Josh,
Yes that is enough. We basicially don't want this class to be anyones FIRST Carbine class as the tempo will be fast and shooters will be expected to know all the basics.
Are you going to be offering a good FIRST Carbine class at those facilities anytime? I live about half hour - forty five minutes from Canton so you all need to get me trained to be able to take these courses. Then I can offer a pig roast after one :D
Are you going to be offering a good FIRST Carbine class at those facilities anytime? I live about half hour - forty five minutes from Canton so you all need to get me trained to be able to take these courses. Then I can offer a pig roast after one :D
Yes we will (most likely with Pat Rogers).
I will have a detailed (well sorta -- got leave some surprises) course overview and a bio up of my life (as it pertains to this)
I'm trying to con a gov't agency into hiring me so I dont want too much on the net or they will recognize me for an incompetant boob ;)
So, Would Patrol Rifle 101 w/ Bill Jeans (16 hours X's 2, I took it twice)
Patrol Rifle II (All shoothouse stuff) tought by an MCSO (Maricopa County Sherrifs Office) Instructor (16hours)
Plus Tactical Response Fighting Rifle (16 hours)
Plus the Tactical Response HRCC Shooting package (40 hours)
Qualify me?
Yeah. James Yeager puut on a great series of courses - with about as much realism as one can get in a civilian course. I enjoy courses with James.
course general overview
The idea is to attempt to blend a fast past course requiring and teaching some skills with the need to place precision fire instead of dumping a lot of rounds. Overseas theses days (and more importantly CONUS) you are accountable for every round you fire (certain exceptions apply OCONUS).
Team Tactics in regards to vehicles.
Engaging Moving vehicles (still working on a good tgt to demo this maybe GY will drive ;) -- kidding dude you have enough with the morons [he works where I used too...])
Shooting From Moving Vehicle into both moving vehicles and static tgts.
Downed Team Member Drills (vehicle and footborne.)
Limited Precision CQB aspects (given range constraints)
More to follow on that. but key is the Day1 Range Orientation and Safety Briefing
(I've had friends shot in Blue on Blue so I tend to error on the side of caution)
individual and team drills (AR and pistol) less teaching than an assessing side so we can see where we are as a group.
Brief BIO
36 years old
14 year veteran of Canadian Forces, Light Infantry NCO. Experienced in small team operations, leadership and a variety Tier II and III SOF skill sets.
I'm not a Tier1 guy (I'm their groupie - I hang out and catch weapons and kit that falws off the bus...)
2005-2006 Independent Contractor
• Emergency Response Team and ERT Commander
• Cordon, Escort, Hostage Rescue and Containment duties
• Management of personnel, weapons and team amdministration
MIL
Deployed to Afghanistan as "WeaponOperator" [gay yeah not my name for it] (doubling as a Designated Marksman and Close Protection Asset), NEO Operations, PSD of Canadian Military and Indigenous Assets, involved in Security Audit of Canadian Embassy Kabul Afghanistan, involved in operations with 22 SAS and Norwegian SF.
Weapons Det Commander
Conducted Live Fire and Force On Force Precision House Clearing, and Use of Force Training and train the trainer events (trained by Tier 1 JTF-2 Pers)
Domestic Security Operations JTF-Grizzly (G8 Summit)
Low Level Infantry and SOF Operation Training across the Full Spectrum of Battle
Instructed Small Arms shooting techniques for both CQB and Range Environments, for pistol and carbine.
NCO In Charge of Unit Rifle Team, and Secretary of the Garrison Shooting Club
I have jumped out of some planes and I also managed to read enough to pass a LE sniper course
BLAH BLAH BLAH
Did this class happen?
Any feedback? I haven't noticed an AAR....
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