View Full Version : Anyone using the Aimpoint Micro T-1 as a primary optic?
wild_wild_wes
10-09-07, 22:13
Can it do the job of the older, larger M-68?
Jay Cunningham
10-09-07, 22:53
Yes, absolutely.
I am using it on my Arsenal, Inc. SLR-106FR.
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3140/lightmount002wg0.jpg
Robb Jensen
10-10-07, 04:40
I'm running an H1 (on a T1 mount) on my Arsenal SLR-106FR. There is no difference between the H1 and T1 mount other than ones shiney black and ones flat black. Aimpoint markets the T1 as Picatinny and the H1 as Weaver.
These are pics when it still had the H1 mount on it.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/AKs005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/AKs006.jpg
I played with one mounted on a AR6520 via gooseneck. Very light, very functional.
Went back to it on the Krinkov.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/edwin907/KSA.jpg
how is the mounting height of these things? Had thought about trying one on my Benelli M4 but wonder how the cheek weld would be and if the sight picture is low.
how is the mounting height of these things? Had thought about trying one on my Benelli M4 but wonder how the cheek weld would be and if the sight picture is low.
That's actually kind of the whole point. Hence, Larue had to make a mount to raise it up for use on a flattop AR.
From my limited experience with both, the Micro Aimpoint is the only optic I'd put on an AK or a shotgun.
That's actually kind of the whole point. Hence, Larue had to make a mount to raise it up for use on a flattop AR.
From my limited experience with both, the Micro Aimpoint is the only optic I'd put on an AK or a shotgun.
Good to go, thanks. will have to add this optic to the ever growing list of stuff to get.
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
10-10-07, 18:33
oh ya... Been testing the T-1 for about a month now and so far its holding up to its big brother just fine! even under water! (pics soon)
My Primary
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/T1SDITE.jpg
and Eric one of my instructors primarys
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/PIGT1.jpg
We just put a Micro T-1 on a LaRue tall riser through Jeff Gonzales three day COC carbine course firing 2300 rounds on a MK18 (11.5" M4). It never missed a beat. The Micro T-1 on a short riser actually co-witness with the HK416 sights on a 416 due to the 3/8" additional height of the receiver on that system.
Bottomline is that the Micro T-1 on shotguns, rifles, carbines, and even handguns is superb. I am currently working with MATECH to build a ballistic compensated riser for the Micro T-1 for use on the M249, M240, MK46 and MK48s. 5 ounce optic vice a 1+ lb optic on 20lb machineguns simply makes sense for those who have to hump them.
S/F
wild_wild_wes
10-13-07, 16:07
A BCD riser, interesting!
Though if you look at my "What is the longest shot you have made with your Aimpoint?" thread, some guys have pretty muched maxed the envelope out of what the 5.56 with reflex sight is capable of IMHO, just by using hold-over. Still, a BDC base might be interesting, especially for a SAW.
To those that are running the Micro with a Larue mount, has anyone put the combo on a scale to get total weight?
ETA:
Duh, it's right on Larue's site.
Weight 3.7 oz. (105g) including mount (http://stores.homestead.com/Laruetactical/Detail.bok?no=149)
That is NICE.
wild_wild_wes
10-14-07, 01:13
Is the LaRue mount/riser solid? Or does it have a compartment, or something?
Robb Jensen
10-14-07, 05:03
Is the LaRue mount/riser solid? Or does it have a compartment, or something?
I have one of the short ones and it's hollow underneath. That's were the 4 screws that attach the mount to the body of the optic are accessed.
Erick Gelhaus
10-14-07, 09:28
5 ounce optic vice a 1+ lb optic on 20lb machineguns simply makes sense for those who have to hump them.
Strangely enough, I can think of a LOT of troops who'd like that idea. Nicely done.
Fwiw, had a student run the T1 through a 5 day shotgun class last month. The optic held up just fine.
I had the opportunity to run a T-1 /Larue mount setup through its paces at a class.
To put it simply the T-1 just performed. It is substantially lighter and smaller than its big brothers in the Comp M series. I can’t comment on the OEM mount since this one was already outfitted with LaRue's.
Battery life (CR2032) is a non issue as it is measured in years on medium settings and months on the highest ones.
Well done Aimpoint.
.............
Now, if only Aimpoint could team up with Schmidt & Bender to fix the short dot's battery life.......
"Battery life (CR2032) is a non issue as it is measured in years on medium settings and months on the highest ones."
Actually there are 12 settings clearly marked on the Micro T-1. First four are for NVDs. Battery life constantly set on setting 8 is five years and one year on setting 12.
S/F
These Aimpoint Micros have gotten my attention.
Lately I've been looking at smaller and smaller accessories. First I'm planing on switching my carbines light to a X300 and then maybe I'll put one a T1 on too and really cut some weight.:cool:
wild_wild_wes
10-20-07, 01:22
I don't know anything about weapons lights, but I've always wondered why I don't see the X300 and similar small lights on ARs...not enough lumen output? Or what?
Why would someone go with a Micro over an M3 or M4? Weight? Thanx
Failure2Stop
10-26-07, 04:19
I don't know anything about weapons lights, but I've always wondered why I don't see the X300 and similar small lights on ARs...not enough lumen output? Or what?
Small lights are fine in rooms, and compared to the lights of the past, the X300 is far and above small. Most people will be perfectly happy with 65 lumens inside a residiential building. There is really not enough difference in lighting to make a big difference. The high output lights (over 150) are awesome for penetrating dark when you are standing in the light, with light adjusted vision. The X300 type kind of bridge the gap for me. Not a super-light, but loads of light for all but the worst-case lighting conditions.
The problem (to me) with the X300 lies in it's activation method. The toggle is fine for pistols, and does not require altering the normal grip.
Rifles are bit different. First, the bezel of the light needs to be forward of the edge of the handguard or you get unacceptable shadow forward, and illuminate yourself. Both considered to be "bad". Second, the X300 requires toggle activation, which requires that the support hand be right behind the light. This is not really a problem on an SBR, but is unaceptable on most mid-lengths or rifles (for me). I would really be happy if SF made a tape-switch for the X300 like the Insight M3X.
This is just me though, YMMV.
Robb Jensen
10-26-07, 05:08
Why would someone go with a Micro over an M3 or M4? Weight? Thanx
Simply size & weight. The M4 has it's place, I think it's at home on a 14.5-16" carbine, where as the T1 is more for the guys running smaller guns or where every ounce of weight counts (wanting a very light and fast carbine). An M4 on a shotgun would look funny and could make it quit running (Benelli), adding a T1 (5 ounce) would make much more sense. Each optic has it's place, the T1 isn't and never was meant to replace the M4.
Small lights are fine in rooms, and compared to the lights of the past, the X300 is far and above small. Most people will be perfectly happy with 65 lumens inside a residiential building. There is really not enough difference in lighting to make a big difference. The high output lights (over 150) are awesome for penetrating dark when you are standing in the light, with light adjusted vision. The X300 type kind of bridge the gap for me. Not a super-light, but loads of light for all but the worst-case lighting conditions.
The problem (to me) with the X300 lies in it's activation method. The toggle is fine for pistols, and does not require altering the normal grip.
Rifles are bit different. First, the bezel of the light needs to be forward of the edge of the handguard or you get unacceptable shadow forward, and illuminate yourself. Both considered to be "bad". Second, the X300 requires toggle activation, which requires that the support hand be right behind the light. This is not really a problem on an SBR, but is unaceptable on most mid-lengths or rifles (for me). I would really be happy if SF made a tape-switch for the X300 like the Insight M3X.
This is just me though, YMMV.
I think it depends on how you grip the gun. "chicken chokers" may have issues, but there are many ways you can grip the forend or a vertical grip that allows you to hit the switch.
Agree completely re: the length though.
Failure2Stop
10-26-07, 07:18
I think it depends on how you grip the gun.
Absolutely agree.
The guys that grip far forward on the handguard don't have the problem with activation that I do.
I use a "broken isoscelese" grip on my rifle, thumb on support side pointed toward the target. I can use bigger lights such as the SF 95/96 with no problem. I don't really like tape switches, but only because work guns have too damn many of them. I hate premature illumination. I would be happy to use the X300 w/ tape switch on my personal SBR, as it will be the only tape switch on that gun.
And to end the unintentional hijack- I am going to put a T-1 on the SBR as the co-primary optic. Will also be running a fixed larue BUIS.
tiger seven
10-26-07, 09:27
I've had mine for slightly more than a week, and I've only made one trip to the range, but my initial impressions are all favorable. So far I'm really loving this little thing.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/zulu15/sbr_t1.jpg
I'm going to run my EOTech on my carbine and spend a little time comparing the two side-by-side. But I think I've already been converted... :)
Derek
Robb Jensen
10-26-07, 11:56
I just got my T&E Aimpoints T1 and M4 today (I'll be writing an article for each). I'm running the T1 on my 10" LMT on the RAS2 rail in front of the 'hump' on a tall LaRue mount as a primary optic. I'll post a pic tomorrow. The M4 will go on my Colt 6920 upper that's currently being fitted with a Primary Weapons piston kit and will have a 9.5" extended FSB lite rail.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/1-1.jpg
Yea Baby!! 3000 Rds class, and rocking out. Hey guys, I'm here now the parity can start!:D
wild_wild_wes
10-26-07, 23:57
Yes, we must have "parity"...if one guy has a lot more stuff, we get jealous :D
How is the T1 in unconventional shooting positons like SBU prone?
Do you find the smaller tube to be a lot less forgiving of less than perfect head position?
Small lights are fine in rooms, and compared to the lights of the past, the X300 is far and above small. Most people will be perfectly happy with 65 lumens inside a residiential building. There is really not enough difference in lighting to make a big difference. The high output lights (over 150) are awesome for penetrating dark when you are standing in the light, with light adjusted vision. The X300 type kind of bridge the gap for me. Not a super-light, but loads of light for all but the worst-case lighting conditions.
The problem (to me) with the X300 lies in it's activation method. The toggle is fine for pistols, and does not require altering the normal grip.
Rifles are bit different. First, the bezel of the light needs to be forward of the edge of the handguard or you get unacceptable shadow forward, and illuminate yourself. Both considered to be "bad". Second, the X300 requires toggle activation, which requires that the support hand be right behind the light. This is not really a problem on an SBR, but is unaceptable on most mid-lengths or rifles (for me). I would really be happy if SF made a tape-switch for the X300 like the Insight M3X.
This is just me though, YMMV.
The X300 accepts all X series accessories. The XT Tailcap assy ( carbine application) will work giving you a remote tape switch in addition to the toggle. The toggle is your constant on placed within reach of your support hand index finger or you can use a SR tape switch with the constant on feature. The Shadow efect is not present with the LED's.
Out
2011BLDR
wild_wild_wes
10-29-07, 19:36
The Shadow efect is not present with the LED's.
2011BLDR
Really? Why? (no math please :D )
Failure2Stop
10-30-07, 11:13
The X300 accepts all X series accessories. The XT Tailcap assy ( carbine application) will work giving you a remote tape switch in addition to the toggle.
SUPER! Found my SBR light.
Now to find one in stock...
SUPER! Found my SBR light.
Now to find one in stock...
Just waiting for Surefire to complete their refinements on the XT07 switch and begin shipping; which will be soon. Then I'll be done with my X300 equipped SBR.
http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee266/zgxtreme_photos/CIMG0005.jpg
Robb Jensen
10-31-07, 07:11
Here's my LMT 10" SBR that had an Aimpoint M2 w/LaRue RAS2 mount. I'm T&E'ing a T1 in the tall LaRue mount. It's quite nice and light with this setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/optics/SBRs003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/optics/SBRs001.jpg
I moved the M2 to my wifes 11.5" SBR and with the RAS2 LaRue mount mounted in on top of the RRA Dominator 2 mount.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/optics/SBRs005.jpg
From John Farnam:
16 Nov 07
Earlier this week, I shot a four-hundred-pound Red Deer Stag during a hunting trip in the Midwest. Range was thirty meters, and I had a profile shot. He was hit, as is my habit, on the point of the shoulder. He took two steps and precipitously collapsed. Beautiful animal!
I used my DSA/FAL/Congo with a forward-mounted Micro T-1 - Aimpoint and equipped with a Blue-Force-Gear/Vickers sling. Ammunition was Cor-Bon 168gr DPX.
The opportunity was sudden. We saw the animal standing there, appearing, as it were, out of nowhere, and I was compelled to mount and fire immediately, as the window was closing fast. The FAL/Aimpoint combination is formidable! Fast and deadly, I was on him in an instant. When my shot broke, I caught the link immediately as I stayed in the sight, but decided against taking a second shot. It was my judgment that another hit was unnecessary.
With the Micro/Aimpoint forward-mounted, I can shoot with both eyes open and thus stay in the sight longer than would be the case if I were using open sights or if the optic were mounted close to my eye. It is the set-up I recommend.
The single DPX bullet did not exit, and we never recovered it, but, judging from the behavior of the deer, I have no doubt it performed well, as all Barnes bullets do!
As an Urban/Fighting Rifle, the FAL/Congo is hard to beat! Fast, handy, and relatively light, one can drive it to target in the wink of an eye, particularly when it is equipped with the Vickers sling.
Great day!
/John
Jay Cunningham
11-17-07, 16:38
If you are required to (or simply desire to) carry and use an AK for serious purposes, the UltiMAK gas tube rail mount and Aimpoint Micro T-1 will enhance the rifle's effectiveness several fold.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/9206/nightfighter003gk3.jpg
FJB lent me a Micro in tall Larue mount for Day's II and III of the LAV/KH LL class -- I had it on a 11.5 SR16 and a 10.4 Hk416 -- very impressive little optic.
I think it will be the standard for SBR optics in the not to distant time.
Littlelebowski
11-23-07, 08:44
Not to get too off topic here but would the "red deer stag" in the Midwest be on a game farm?
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/n859105575_1740395_924.jpgWe are going to move it foward a bit, but DSA Para 16" with Mirco T1, and Larue low mount. WOO HOO!
John_Wayne777
11-26-07, 13:49
Why would someone go with a Micro over an M3 or M4? Weight? Thanx
Weight, bulk, leaving more room to mount night vision/magnifiers, less protruding stuff to snag on random stuff, etc.
Weight is a biggie. With one of the micros mounted you don't really notice a weight difference.
The micro is a neat little piece of gear. I predict you will see them ruling competition gun setups before long.
Littlelebowski
11-26-07, 14:07
Any disadvantages to this vs a full sized Aimpoint? I have perfect vision so acquiring the dot shouldn't be problem
We haven’t found any yet. Some people in the pistol community hesitated on the size of the window, but they are starting to come around. On any shoulder mounted platform, the optic comes right up with a great picture. I have to say it is starting to quickly replace most of my sights as my primary unit.
I am running an H-1 on my AK and the T-1 on my SBR. Both have worked perfectly. The T-1 even worked well with my PVS-14.
C4
tiger seven
11-26-07, 20:10
The more I use the T-1 the more I like it. I can't get over how little it weighs, even with the LaRue mount. It really is an impressive little piece of hardware.
Derek
Robb Jensen
11-26-07, 20:19
I am running an H-1 on my AK and the T-1 on my SBR. Both have worked perfectly. The T-1 even worked well with my PVS-14.
C4
Copy cat! :D
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/AKs005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/gunpics/SBRs001.jpg
wild_wild_wes
11-28-07, 21:39
Okay, I'm sold!
Now, someone please buy my upper in the sales forum so I can afford one!
The very first prototype I received went on my Super 90 with a smoking Mesa tactical mount. (Some of you might remember seeing that gun at the Aimpoint booth at Shot last year) and WOW! This guy rocks on rifles, sub-guns, PDWs, you name it. But wait till you see what you can do with it on a gauge.
wild_wild_wes
12-02-07, 18:33
Anyone put one on an M-14?
Littlelebowski
12-02-07, 19:08
Or a FAL?
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/n859105575_1740395_924.jpgWe are going to move it foward a bit, but DSA Para 16" with Mirco T1, and Larue low mount. WOO HOO!
Thats NICE...
Lot's of them going on M14 platform guns. I just did a Fulton 18" gun for a buddy, with the Ultimak mount, and it ever gives you a co-witness.
wild_wild_wes
12-03-07, 22:02
Lot's of them going on M14 platform guns. I just did a Fulton 18" gun for a buddy, with the Ultimak mount, and it ever gives you a co-witness.
Co-witness? Surely you jest. I demant photographic evidence!
Robb Jensen
12-04-07, 07:33
Co-witness? Surely you jest. I demant photographic evidence!
I think he meant to type 'never' gives a co-witness.
I swear on Rob's mother.:D
Robb Jensen
12-04-07, 08:07
I swear on Robb's mother.:D
I've wanted to try one on a SOCOM16 or Scout for awhile and thought that it might, so very interesting. :)
The Ultimak mount is lower, and so far seems to be of a much higher quality. I will try to get photos up ASAP.
Here you go guys. The proof is in the pictures, and no it is not a Sasquach, or some other figment of your imagination.:D
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/IMG001311-1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/IMG001291.jpg
Micro H1 co-witness on M1 family gun, with Ultimak mount.
Robb Jensen
12-06-07, 10:08
Cool, hey those shelves look kinda empty! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/gotm4/uglylol.gif
Jay Cunningham
12-06-07, 10:44
Here you go guys. The proof is in the pictures, and no it is not a Sasquach, or some other figment of your imagination.:D
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/IMG001311-1.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/IMG001291.jpg
Micro H1 co-witness on M1 family gun, with Ultimak mount.
Very nice. UltiMAK makes a fine product.
Oh and I almost forgot Noveske's choice.
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/mk48_9.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q200/jar15enloe/m249p_3.jpg
Luckystiff
12-07-07, 04:38
I have been kicking around the idea of mountng a T-1 on the hump of an RAS-II. I am wondering if mounting it there will alow it to co-witness or to be the proper hight for my GG&G QD mount for my 3x and (soon to be mine) PVS-14. Does anyone know if this set up will work?
Robb Jensen
12-07-07, 04:41
I have been kicking around the idea of mountng a T-1 on the hump of an RAS-II. I am wondering if mounting it there will alow it to co-witness or to be the proper hight for my GG&G QD mount for my 3x and (soon to be mine) PVS-14. Does anyone know if this set up will work?
I did it but it's much too low, it's lower than an absolute cowitness.
Maybe this has been covered and I missed it....
Those of you that are mounting these with fixed BUIS, are you still able to co-witness through the optic with the smaller barrel diameter of the micros?
Robb Jensen
12-07-07, 07:57
Maybe this has been covered and I missed it....
Those of you that are mounting these with fixed BUIS, are you still able to co-witness through the optic with the smaller barrel diameter of the micros?
Yes. It's 'busier' but it works.
For the lightweight SBR I'm thinking:
Aimpoint micro
LT tall mount
LT QD BUIS
LonghunterCO
12-07-07, 08:07
For the lightweight SBR I'm thinking:
Aimpoint micro
LT tall mount
LT QD BUIS
I like it!
I have played around with the Micro, and 3X combo, but The Micro is only available in a 4MOA at this time. Magnifying a 4MOA dot does cover a large area of the target, and we recommend the 2MOA sights to be used in conjunction with 3X for more precise shot placement.
I have played around with the Micro, and 3X combo, but The Micro is only available in a 4MOA at this time. Magnifying a 4MOA dot does cover a large area of the target, and we recommend the 2MOA sights to be used in conjunction with 3X for more precise shot placement.
I would view the 3x on a micro as a "maybe if I need it" kind of thing, not as the intended use.
tiger seven
12-07-07, 09:07
Maybe this has been covered and I missed it....
Those of you that are mounting these with fixed BUIS, are you still able to co-witness through the optic with the smaller barrel diameter of the micros?
Yes. I'm running a T-1 on the LT tall mount with the LT BUIS, and I have no trouble co-witnessing.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/zulu15/lmt_orange.jpg
Derek
LonghunterCO
12-07-07, 09:15
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/zulu15/lmt_orange.jpg
That looks like a perfect set up. Whoes rail is that?
tiger seven
12-07-07, 09:32
That looks like a perfect set up. Whoes rail is that?
Midwest Industries. It's a nice rail for not a lot of money. It's nothing fancy, but it's been rock solid on two different rifles over the course of two years or so. It will be replaced by a DD Omega sometime in the near future (only because I'm trying to shave some weight off my SBR) but performance-wise I've never had any complaints with the MI rail.
Derek
LonghunterCO
12-07-07, 09:44
That is a LMT 10.5" with flaming pig?
tiger seven
12-07-07, 09:55
That is a LMT 10.5" with flaming pig?
Yes it is. Runs like a champ. :)
Derek
(not mine):
Aimpoint Micro on my LRB Tanker (http://m14firinglineforum.com/upload/showthread.php?t=49501), m14firinglineforum
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d9/jbayne2001/1.jpg
He posts and interesting comment:
I'm not sure why Aimpoint will continue to make the bigger models anymore...don't really see the point.
To lighten my carbine and following Pat's advice, I went from an Aimpoint M2 to a T-1 and couldn't be more satisfied. Its highly recommended for those AUG style carbines.
Fireguy275
01-08-08, 17:57
Yes. It's 'busier' but it works.
I found the same thing. Tried the Larue and Troy(in the up position) and the Troy seemed a better match.
chapperjoe
01-12-08, 19:48
any way to mount this on an acog yet?
any way to mount this on an acog yet?
Check out FJB's post / pic, post #7: Aimpoint Micro (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=5412&highlight=aimpoint+micro).
any way to mount this on an acog yet?
In a tall LT QD mount I suppose?
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
01-25-08, 00:50
T-1 Got a little Air action today with one of the local SWAT SST teams...
Worked nice and the lower profile (Tube Dia) of it gives a better feild of veiw and allows me to consentrate on the target area.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/t-1airshots.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/th_MVI_1345.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/?action=view¤t=MVI_1345.flv)
Robb Jensen
01-25-08, 04:51
Darn cool Travis! :)
Trav I officially hate you. Next time you send me a sight for repair I will charge you in flight time.:D
Frickin' ridiculous! I get YELLED at if I park my jeep wrong at the range. You have a helicopter to use...
K_Picatinny
01-25-08, 13:36
Travis,
I fixed the video for you. (Turn UP the volume ;-) )
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/th_MVI_0124.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/?action=view¤t=MVI_0124.flv)
Travis,
I fixed the video for you. (Turn UP the volume ;-) )
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/th_MVI_0124.jpg (http://s40.photobucket.com/albums/e218/expert244/?action=view¤t=MVI_0124.flv)
You Rock!
K_Picatinny
01-25-08, 14:37
You Rock!
It simply had to be done.
It simply had to be done.
Yes it did!
C4
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
01-25-08, 15:14
Yes simply awsome! why didnt I think of that...the damn song was in my head while in the air!:D
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/AimpointLogo.gif
wild_wild_wes
01-27-08, 12:11
I'm sold. I will get one to put on this:
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/pseudonominus/prebuild.jpg
Very light; perfect balance.
decodeddiesel
01-29-08, 18:59
T-1 Got a little Air action today with one of the local SWAT SST teams...
Wow this post REALLY makes me miss the 101st ABN (AASLT). :(
Tiger Seven, perhaps you could snap a reticle pic showing the co-witness of the La Rue high and your BUIS. Just so I understand, it is an absolute co-witness?
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
01-30-08, 00:22
better one of the T-1 putting lead where I need
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/travlittlebird.jpg
decodeddiesel
01-30-08, 12:36
Too bad you can't try a 249 from a small bird like that...now thats fun! Though, probably not too well suited to a police type application.
tiger seven
01-30-08, 19:14
Tiger Seven, perhaps you could snap a reticle pic showing the co-witness of the La Rue high and your BUIS. Just so I understand, it is an absolute co-witness?
It's a lower 1/3 co-witness. I tried to get a reticle pic for a friend of mine, but my camera doesn't work too well for stuff like that. It was a big blur with a blurry red dot in the center...
Sorry.
Derek
decodeddiesel
01-31-08, 09:43
It's a lower 1/3 co-witness. I tried to get a reticle pic for a friend of mine, but my camera doesn't work too well for stuff like that. It was a big blur with a blurry red dot in the center...
Sorry.
Derek
LOL, thats cool thanks anyway on the pics.
I guess reading comprehension > me. I thought it was an absolute co-witness. The lower 1/3 makes it all the more attractive to me for my LMT setup.
SIMPLYDYNAMIC
01-31-08, 23:09
Too bad you can't try a 249 from a small bird like that...now thats fun! Though, probably not too well suited to a police type application.
You mean like this?...already done...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/th_littlebirdsawrun.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/?action=view¤t=littlebirdsawrun.flv)
crappy pic, pardon my cellphone, of a H1 mounted on a UMP45.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m131/loner317/ump45-1.jpg
Has anyone had a chance to torture one yet to see how durable the H1 is?
Panzerr,
The H-1 is built with the same tubes, lenses (except for the additional lens coatings), on the same assembly line using the same procedures as the T-1s. They are just as tough as the T-1s. I wouldn't worry about durability or reliability with the H-1.
S/F
wild_wild_wes
02-11-08, 23:28
But if I remember the H-1 specs, it gives a shallower submersible depth than the T-1, correct?
Robb Jensen
02-12-08, 04:18
But if I remember the H-1 specs, it gives a shallower submersible depth than the T-1, correct?
Yes, H1 (15ft) vs T1 (80ft). To be quite honest I've never had any of my Aimpoints submerged. I have shot/hunted with them in the rain without any problems. 15ft is plenty 'just in case' someone were to drop a rifle accidentally into a pond, stream or river.
Iraq Ninja
02-12-08, 07:20
Optics Planet has a great (?) deal on open boxed Micros. I ordered one, and it came the day I had to fly back off of leave. I briefly played around with it, and I noticed when it was set around 6 or 8, indoors, and when I moved my head slightly sideways away, the side of the lens was filled with a red half moon shape. The primary dot was still visible and was not blooming. I have used a M3 and never saw this before unless I turn the dot way up and bloom it. Is this normal?
I wish I would had time to take it outdoors and test it, but I am also wondering now if there may be something wrong with the optic. It probably was returned to Optics Planet open for some reason, but they say the warranty is still valid.
FJB:
Any chance that the micro will be offered with a 2 m.o.a. dot, as other models are?
Thanks.
Robb Jensen
02-12-08, 07:30
FJB:
Any chance that the micro will be offered with a 2 m.o.a. dot, as other models are?
Thanks.
It would be cool if they do offer it later. I know some Open class USPSA/IPSC shooters that want to use Micros but want 6-8MOA dots in the R1 Aimpoints.
FJB:
Any chance that the micro will be offered with a 2 m.o.a. dot, as other models are?
Thanks.
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wild_wild_wes
02-12-08, 10:44
Working on it. The emitter in the Micro is actually a 2 MOA, but due to the distance between it and the front lens the image is 4 MOA. We are working on a 1 MOA LED to produce a 2 MOA micro. The LEDs are microscopic. You can fit 10 of the 2 MOA ones on the head of a pin, and before any one asks, yes we do have 1 MOA sights but they are the 2X variants, and they use a 2 MOA dot with a 2X magnifier in front of them so the image is 2X with a 2 MOA unmagnified dot making the dot = 1 MOA.
It is enough sometimes to turn your brain to mush.
Ahhh...so that is why the batteries last so long, eh?
But if I remember the H-1 specs, it gives a shallower submersible depth than the T-1, correct?
Wild,
Without sounding condescending, please follow the logic...both are made with the same components, except the objective lenses, on the same assembly line. One is tested and guaranteed to 80 ft submersion and one is tested and guaranteed to 15 ft. I am not saying, but just saying.
S/F
Wow, a 2 MOA T1 Micro is going to be very hard to resist...:D
Blinking Dog
03-20-08, 22:34
G&R Tactical open box special:
http://http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/2349188246_9ec2a5ac41.jpg (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2010/2349188246_9ec2a5ac41.jpg)
wild_wild_wes
03-22-08, 21:09
Lot's of them going on M14 platform guns. I just did a Fulton 18" gun for a buddy, with the Ultimak mount, and it ever gives you a co-witness.
Would it be possible to get a T-1 and a Magnifier with mounts the same height so that they line up correctly? As of yet I havent seen any pics of T-1/Magnifier combos.
CarlosDJackal
03-26-08, 09:53
Would it be possible to get a T-1 and a Magnifier with mounts the same height so that they line up correctly? As of yet I havent seen any pics of T-1/Magnifier combos.
I just received and mounted my T-1 using a Larue LT-66X mount and my 3x Magnifier on a Samson flip mount. I have yet to shoot this (I'm hoping to give it a try this afternoon) but from what I can tell, it works fine. I'll try to take some pics tonight and post them.
UPDATE: I got to shoot this setup yesterday and I really like this sight (T-1)!! My carbine seems to be a lot more balanced than and handles much better.
As promised, my SBR with the YHM SS Phantom installed (and the i-Shot case it lives in):
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/CarlosDJackal/DSCN3279.jpg
Close up of the optics setup:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/CarlosDJackal/DSCN3280.jpg
I just added a T-1 to my RRA A4 9mm carbine using the RRA tactical carry handle for an easy, fixed BUIS co-witness. Very simple, light and clean looking setup.
wild_wild_wes
03-28-08, 23:04
Hey Jackal, it looks like the T-1 fills up some of the Magnifier's FOV, due to its smaller lens diameter. How did it shoot?
CarlosDJackal
03-29-08, 19:32
Hey Jackal, it looks like the T-1 fills up some of the Magnifier's FOV, due to its smaller lens diameter. How did it shoot?
Pretty good, so far. I really have not noticed any FOV loss with his setup. I think the 4MOA dot hurts my accuracy at long distance (300 yards is the longes range I can shoot out to) more than anything else.
Still training very hard with the T1 and enjoying it immensely as a primary sighting tool!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/CADEX/Church2WEB.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/CADEX/Church1WEB.jpg
CarlosDJackal
04-08-08, 17:01
I just picked up a # 04 Butler Creek flip-up objective lens cover that seems to fit the T-1. I plan on cutting it down and then zip-tying it onto the scope. I want this in order to protect the scope while it's in the case.
I'll post a picture the first chance I get.
Jackal - I went with the LaRue combo deal, but have to admit I was eying the GGG T1 mount due to its lens covers. I would love to see your butler creek setup.
I know it is just me, but I know it is only a matter time before I loose the bikini...
CarlosDJackal
04-09-08, 06:16
Jackal - I went with the LaRue combo deal, but have to admit I was eying the GGG T1 mount due to its lens covers. I would love to see your butler creek setup.
I know it is just me, but I know it is only a matter time before I loose the bikini...
Here you go. I don't think I really needed to ue the zip tie. But I put it on anyway. This cap was trimmed for length so that it can stay secure.
The cap closed (notice the Larue FUG? :) ):
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/CarlosDJackal/T-1covera.jpg
The cap open:
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w169/CarlosDJackal/T-1coverb.jpg
Anyone have any idea if there are plans for a "killflash" device for the micro units?
There are no threads in the front for a traditional screw one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone is working on it. It wouldn’t be hard, kind of like the ACOG ARD unit.
Thanks WasatchAR, I'll keep my eyes open for one.
decodeddiesel
04-17-08, 18:04
You mean like this?...already done...
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/simplydynamic/th_littlebirdsawrun.jpg
:( Now I am really missing the 101.... Looks like you had fun though!
ETA: OK so can anyone tell me the differences between the H1 and the T1? Is it NVD compatibility and water resistance? Seeing how I am not interested performing any rebreather insertions from a boomer nor do I own a PVS-14, perhaps the H1 is a better choice?
ETA2: Well heck if I'm shelling out $520 for a H1 whats the extra $60 for the T1 I guess.
decodeddiesel
06-09-09, 09:27
Holy old thread Batman!
Might as well add a pic of my T1 equipped LMT...
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/decodeddiesel/1911alienstormpics012-1.jpg
Holy old thread Batman!
Might as well add a pic of my T1 equipped LMT...
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b200/decodeddiesel/1911alienstormpics012-1.jpg
Sir could I trouble you to show more angles of your rail grip setup? Damn fine lookin rifle.
You guys are a bad influence. I took the plunge and should have a T1 on the way from LT next week. :cool:
You guys are a bad influence. I took the plunge and should have a T1 on the way from LT next week. :cool:
Thats why I bumped it ;^)
Thats why I bumped it ;^)
I'll blame you if I catch any aggro from the HH6. :p
Small lights are fine in rooms, and compared to the lights of the past, the X300 is far and above small. Most people will be perfectly happy with 65 lumens inside a residiential building. There is really not enough difference in lighting to make a big difference. The high output lights (over 150) are awesome for penetrating dark when you are standing in the light, with light adjusted vision. The X300 type kind of bridge the gap for me. Not a super-light, but loads of light for all but the worst-case lighting conditions.
The problem (to me) with the X300 lies in it's activation method. The toggle is fine for pistols, and does not require altering the normal grip.
Rifles are bit different. First, the bezel of the light needs to be forward of the edge of the handguard or you get unacceptable shadow forward, and illuminate yourself. Both considered to be "bad". Second, the X300 requires toggle activation, which requires that the support hand be right behind the light. This is not really a problem on an SBR, but is unaceptable on most mid-lengths or rifles (for me). I would really be happy if SF made a tape-switch for the X300 like the Insight M3X.
This is just me though, YMMV.
They do make a remote switch for the x300
Tape Switch for the X300 is XT107.
wild_wild_wes
06-23-09, 22:02
Now I am, I guess!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/pseudonominus/006.jpg
Now I am, I guess!
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k132/pseudonominus/006.jpg
I think everyone is now.;)
They are also great on AK's;)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/d90king/P1020326.jpg
variablebinary
06-25-09, 23:37
http://home.comcast.net/~firearmspics/XCRSBRT1.jpg
armyjrotc911
07-01-09, 08:56
Does anybody know if the T-1 are being used by troops or operators in Iraq or A-stan yet?
diving dave
07-01-09, 11:21
My humble contribution.....:D
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3274/3112110136_949dd908e9.jpg
Does anybody know if the T-1 are being used by troops or operators in Iraq or A-stan yet?
Short answer... Yes.
Failure2Stop
07-02-09, 08:16
They do make a remote switch for the x300
Tape Switch for the X300 is XT107.
Guys, I wrote that back in Oct of 07. At the time the X300 was new to the market and we didn't have much experience with pistol-sized lights on long-guns other than the M3 types from Insight. Anyway, 2011BLDR answered like three posts down from the original with-
The X300 accepts all X series accessories. The XT Tailcap assy ( carbine application) will work giving you a remote tape switch in addition to the toggle. The toggle is your constant on placed within reach of your support hand index finger or you can use a SR tape switch with the constant on feature. The Shadow efect is not present with the LED's.
Out
2011BLDR
As it is, I no longer have use for tape switches other than for IR devices, even on personal weapons.
Now, to get back to the topic, I am very happy with my T-1 on a 14.5 gun. There have been some very positive reports of using it with a 3X magnifier, something that I am seriously considering for rapidly changing environments.
The T-1 has proven itself to be a viable, rugged, and effective piece of gear with appreciable weight reduction.
I'll be picking a couple in the very near future. Looking forward to getting some shoot time with them.
I'm running a T-1 as the primary on my 10.5" LWRC SBR. I really like it over the M2 I used to have. I may also replace the Eotech 553 with another one on my 6920.
A new shooter I introduced to EBR's shooting my SBR with T-1, and Surefire 556K suppressor.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b299/nimslow/IMG_1511.jpg
http://tmxfww.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pkWzwvI8QWhCc2Y8y2fTg9yMvin7pZygqI6eYs4T57-I7Snp_7u_M14f1TRseUHfRFjeez3RpzDDyRkPkyIN4gQ/t1railhdr.jpg
Short answer... Yes.
Look around 2:25
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=adc_1247237625
I'm working on growing my options:
http://pro-patria.us/FAL/Micro1.gif
http://pro-patria.us/FAL/micro2.gif
http://pro-patria.us/FAL/micro6.gif
That looks like a perfect set up. Whoes rail is that?
What grip is that???
Yes. I'm running a T-1 on the LT tall mount with the LT BUIS, and I have no trouble co-witnessing.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y82/zulu15/lmt_orange.jpg
Derek
My fault sorry for the double post...What grip is that? Looks great.
wild_wild_wes
02-27-11, 23:05
Looking through the AR pic thread sort of answers my question....plenty of guys are running the T-1 as their primary optic (now)!
Alaskapopo
02-27-11, 23:27
Small lights are fine in rooms, and compared to the lights of the past, the X300 is far and above small. Most people will be perfectly happy with 65 lumens inside a residiential building. There is really not enough difference in lighting to make a big difference. The high output lights (over 150) are awesome for penetrating dark when you are standing in the light, with light adjusted vision. The X300 type kind of bridge the gap for me. Not a super-light, but loads of light for all but the worst-case lighting conditions.
The problem (to me) with the X300 lies in it's activation method. The toggle is fine for pistols, and does not require altering the normal grip.
Rifles are bit different. First, the bezel of the light needs to be forward of the edge of the handguard or you get unacceptable shadow forward, and illuminate yourself. Both considered to be "bad". Second, the X300 requires toggle activation, which requires that the support hand be right behind the light. This is not really a problem on an SBR, but is unaceptable on most mid-lengths or rifles (for me). I would really be happy if SF made a tape-switch for the X300 like the Insight M3X.
This is just me though, YMMV.
I use the X300 and it works great for me as a rifle and handgun light. It has 110 lums. On the rifle I mount it at 12 o clock. I use my thumb to activate the light it is natural for me.
Pat
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/AR%20style%20rifles/NOveskeN4.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g299/355sigfan/AR%20style%20rifles/ColtCarbine.jpg
My fault sorry for the double post...What grip is that? Looks great.
Which grip? The pistol grip looks like a Tango Down BG-16 and the vertical grip looks like a KAC Vertical Grip.
Which grip? The pistol grip looks like a Tango Down BG-16 and the vertical grip looks like a KAC Vertical Grip.
Thank you. I was asking about the pistol grip. I pulled it up on google it was the TD. I am going to have to try one...Looks nice
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