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pleaforwar
06-14-11, 18:05
*Mods, if this belongs somewhere else my apologies*
This thread is meant to be a reference for weight comparisons between popular AR-15 options. The only non-AR is the SCAR.
Any added accessories will be annotated. Enjoy!
DI Rifles:
Bushmaster Modular Carbine: 7lbs 3.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/bushmodular.jpg
Bushmaster A3M4: 6lbs 12.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/busha3m4.jpg
Bushmaster A3 Target (20" Barrel): 8lbs 9.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/busha3target.jpg
Colt SP6920: 6lbs 14.6oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sp6920.jpg
Daniel Defense DDM4V4: 6lbs 7.4oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ddm4v4.jpg
Knight's SR-15 (w/vfg): 6lbs 14.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sr15.jpg
LMT MRP: 7lbs 7.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mrp.jpg
LMT Defender: 6lbs 7.0oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/lmtdefender.jpg
Noveske N4 (14.5" barrel): 7lbs 1.4oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/noveske.jpg
S&W M&P15 MOE: 6lbs 5.8oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/swmoe.jpg
S&W M&P15T: 6lbs 11.4oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/swmp15t.jpg
Piston Rifles:
H&K MR556: 8lbs 4.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mr556.jpg
LMT MRP: 7lbs 12.6oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mrppiston.jpg
LWRC M6A2: 7lbs 12oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/m6a2.jpg
LWRC TRICON (w/TD vfg): 7lbs 5.2oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/tricon.jpg
SCAR: 7lbs 4.6oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/scar.jpg
Sig 516 (w/Sig RDS): 7lbs 8.4oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/sig516.jpg
Personal Rifles:
Primary: 8lbs 5.0oz (w/Aimpoint CompM4s, TLR-1, Larue handstop)
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/primary.jpg
Backup: 8lbs 6.0oz (w/Aimpoint ML3, VFG, Surefire G2)
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/backup.jpg
IraqGunz rifles:
Rifle 1: 11.5 SBR w/can, vfg, tape switch, flashlight, and ACOG TA31 RCO: 9lbs 15.6oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ig.jpg
More rifles to come in the future...
Good reference point. Thanks for taking the time.
I think rob_s has a similar thread around here somewhere.
I'm kind of surprised at how heavy the KAC was compared to say, the DD and some of the guns with delta rings, standard barrel nuts and full front sight posts.
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 19:05
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pleaforwar
06-14-11, 19:06
I think rob_s has a similar thread around here somewhere.
I'm kind of surprised at how heavy the KAC was compared to say, the DD and some of the guns with delta rings, standard barrel nuts and full front sight posts.
As did Paul from BCM. This post was not meant to take anything away from their input. Just wanted to throw in my input.
I too was surprised to see the weight differences, but I wouldn't go as far to say the KAC is heavy by any means.
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 19:07
Great post brother:).....I run HK handguns exclusively, so with that said, I cannot believe that the MR556 sells with those spec's & weight. I just read a detailed article on it and all I can say is that the HK name can sell itself along with the so called "looks" factor of it.
Thanks Trident. The MR556 is heavy, no doubt. The BUIS wasn't even installed on this one.
I too was surprised to see the weight differences, but I wouldn't go as far to say the KAC is heavy by any means.
I agree. I still own an SR15e3 and previously owned a DDM4V1 and always felt the SR15 to be considerably lighter.
I guess it is just balanced more to my liking.
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 21:03
I agree. I still own an SR15e3 and previously owned a DDM4V1 and always felt the SR15 to be considerably lighter.
I guess it is just balanced more to my liking.
Balance is a crucial thing. I thought out of my rifles my AK was the heaviest...
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/myak.jpg
... to find out it was actually 10.6 oz lighter than my lightest AR. I was pretty surprised to find that out.
Balance is a crucial thing. I thought out of my rifles my AK was the heaviest...
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/myak.jpg
... to find out it was actually 10.6 oz lighter than my lightest AR. I was pretty surprised to find that out.
It will be when you slap in a full magazine :D
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 21:17
It will be when you slap in a full magazine :D
Something I didn't consider. I do, however, use PALM magazines, which I'm sure would make a difference (maybe not a huge difference) in the loaded weight.
ICANHITHIMMAN
06-14-11, 21:22
Hugh I never thought of this. What system DI or piston was the MRP?
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 21:25
Hugh I never thought of this. What system DI or piston was the MRP?
I used both. I segmented the post into three portions, the first being DI, the second being piston, and the third is my rifles.
Thanks, interesting to see the numbers. As for the AK thing, the paint she is wearing just makes her look fat. :D
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 21:35
Thanks, interesting to see the numbers. As for the AK thing, the paint she is wearing just makes her look fat. :D
:p
Guess I should of had someone do that water transfer process instead. Next time....
The Dumb Gun Collector
06-14-11, 23:05
Very interesting thread. You should weigh some more AKs.
pleaforwar
06-14-11, 23:10
Thanks Greg. I weighed two CAI's, two Arsenals, a VZ, and a 556R, but forgot two pics (one Arsenal and the 556), and felt the sample size was too small at the time for the AK forum. I'll create a thread as I get access to more AK's.
ChicagoTex
06-14-11, 23:59
I nominate this for Sticky.
Seriously. :cool:
The MR556 is heavy, no doubt. The BUIS wasn't even installed on this one.
...nor the DDM4.
pleaforwar
06-15-11, 01:03
...nor the DDM4.
Correct Tony, however the H&K comes with BUIS, and this configured DDM4V4 does not.
Maybe I will stop by tomorrow and you can weigh my pig. I'd like to know what she tips the scales at.
pleaforwar
06-15-11, 09:44
Maybe I will stop by tomorrow and you can weigh my pig. I'd like to know what she tips the scales at.
Sure thing, bring her in.
Maybe I will stop by tomorrow and you can weigh my pig. I'd like to know what she tips the scales at.
She is a beast!
Great Thread. Thank you for the info and pics :)
pleaforwar
06-16-11, 17:35
Thanks for the compliments guys.
IG stopped in yesterday so I edited the original post to add a couple of his rifles.
ETA: Oops! I can only post 20 pictures at a time. Here is the second rifle:
Rifle 2: 16" BCM Pencil Barrel, currently found in the EE: 6lbs 14.0oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/ig2.jpg
I really thought IGs shorty would weigh more. I guess its the balance of the can out front. Man now Im thinking my can is gonna weigh a ton on my 16 inch rifle....:sad:
ForTehNguyen
06-16-11, 18:34
My 16' LW DD Omega X 12.0, MOE stock, AFG, setup, Eotech 512 weighs about 7lbs 6oz if I remember correctly.
interesting thread for sure.
my DD railed 16" LW weigh's 6.4lb unloaded no optics.
Chad
I mounted it on my Noveske 16" back in the day as well and it wasn't bad. You have to remember that I also have a Surefire M952V and VFG on the front as well.
Plus that ACOG isn't light either. If I take that light and ACOG off it lightens up considerably.
I really thought IGs shorty would weigh more. I guess its the balance of the can out front. Man now Im thinking my can is gonna weigh a ton on my 16 inch rifle....:sad:
pleaforwar
06-20-11, 23:09
I decided I wanted to try out a new configuration with my primary AR to make it lighter. I'm gonna stick with it.
I took off the CompM4s and replaced it with a T1, and also removed the taclink qd mount on the receiver extension. It brought the weight down to 7lbs 12.6 oz. The CompM4s is gonna go on the sbr from now on.
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/primaryii4.jpg
captshiess
06-24-11, 13:48
This thread inspired me to weigh my stuff too. I was surprised how much my stuff weighed all set up. All were unloaded with no mags on a digital food scale. Sorry I'm not a photographer, but here are the weights and some pics:
10.5" SBR, Magpul stuff, T1 in KAC, Surefire scout, Tango down short
7.63 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3609.jpg
11.5" SBR/URX, Magpul stuff, T1 in KAC, Surefire mini scout, AFG
7.32 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3608.jpg
Colt 6920 cut to 14.5 with perm vortex, Aimpoint CompM2, surefire scout, magpul stuff, DD 10" M4 rail
8.03 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3606.jpg
KAC SR-15, Magpul stuff, T1 in KAC, Surefire scout
7.59 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3607.jpg
9mm Colt SBR, Troy rail, PA micro dot, magpul stuff
6.6 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3610.jpg
Arsenal SBR 7.62 Ak, Ultimak with PA micro dot. *I was surprised this was as light as it was. Balance really makes a difference for heavier guns.
7.22 lbs
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa310/captshiess/IMG_3605.jpg
pleaforwar
06-24-11, 13:55
Arsenal SBR 7.62 Ak, Ultimak with PA micro dot. *I was surprised this was as light as it was. Balance really makes a difference for heavier guns.
Exactly my reaction too. Balance is crucial.
Thanks for your input!
I have a BCM standard mid-length upper on a Magpul Moe furnitured lower, and an Aimpoint H1 on a DD mount. No picture.
Weight: 6.93 lbs. unloaded, no sling, no light.
Thanks Greg. I weighed two CAI's, two Arsenals, a VZ, and a 556R, but forgot two pics (one Arsenal and the 556), and felt the sample size was too small at the time for the AK forum. I'll create a thread as I get access to more AK's.
The yugo AK's are heavy. I have a milled yugo underfolder that weighs almost 9lbs. The lightest 16" AK w/loaded mag is a '74 with a triangle folding stock, wood handguard and pistolgrip and ribbed Bulgarian dustcover. I'll quote another thread
...for reference, a pound is about 453 grams, so for every 45 grams removed, you save about a tenth of a pound.
-Remove cleaning rod and cleaning kit (where applicable) (saves 55 g + 75 g, respectively)
-AKM front sight block instead of 74 (saves 50 g)
-No muzzle device or a nut (saves 104 g) (nut is only +10 grams, slant brake +20 g)
-Solid Bulgarian wood lower hand guards (saves 40-60 g over laminate or polymer, respectively)
-Polymer AMD-65 grip with short screw (saves 40 g over k-var grip) (Bulgy bubblegum and Egyptian "black" are almost as light)
-Triangle folder/trunnion (can save up to 200 g) (plum fixed stock weights 400, triangle weighs 375, romy wire folder weighs 565, fixed wood stocks weigh 500-550, so triangle is the lightest but its only 25 g lighter than a fixed plum stock/trunnion)
-No receiver mounted sight rail (saves 72 g)
-Plum or Bulgarian polymer mags (saves 30 g over bakelite and 120 over Tantal steel)
-Ribbed top cover (saves 45 g over a Saiga cover)
-Bulgarian or East German sling (45 g saved over Russian sling)
-Combination gas block (??? I haven't weighed one)
This stuff can amount to well over a pound of weight reduction, although the benefits of actually removing each of these items from your rifle are totally debatable (not necessarily worth it--for example, maybe your wife would prefer muzzle compensation over weight savings) and the amount of weight saved will depend on exactly what you are using now. I wouldn't leave the house without a cleaning rod and cleaning kit, although I don't think they necessarily need to be left on the rifle.
Cool post btw.
Wow, two AKs that weigh less with optics than a SR-15... :D
Wow, two AKs that weigh less with optics than a SR-15... :D
Where? The SR-15 weighs 6lbs 14oz. The AK's posted so far weigh more than that?
Wow! I must admit, I was a bit surprised with some. I thought the KAC would be a bit more heavy.... the HK is no surprise, though.
Thanks for sharing!!
shaneinhisroom
06-25-11, 11:31
Thanks for these figures. I think my rifle is a bit too heavy at 10.8 pounds then...
Where? The SR-15 weighs 6lbs 14oz. The AK's posted so far weigh more than that?
With optics it most likely will be pretty close.:smile:
The typical AK74 is ~ 6 lbs 13 oz, officially they use the weight of 3.03 kg. Clearly a krink will be less by a larger margin. I owned a SR-15 and an AK74 at the same time, and I do not think that saying the SR15 is heavier is much of a stretch...If you do not agree with me that is fine, because I am sure everyone will agree that a Krink clearly is much less weight.
With optics it most likely will be pretty close.:smile:
The typical AK74 is ~ 6 lbs 13 oz, officially they use the weight of 3.03 kg. Clearly a krink will be less by a larger margin. I owned a SR-15 and an AK74 at the same time, and I do not think that saying the SR15 is heavier is much of a stretch...If you do not agree with me that is fine, because I am sure everyone will agree that a Krink clearly is much less weight.
Oh, I misunderstood your first post. I thought you meant there are two AK's with optics that weigh less than an SR-15 without optics. Nevermind.
I'd be interested for anyone w/ a M&P 15 TS to chime in. I'd like to know if it is really 6lbs 0.0 oz.
crusader377
06-27-11, 14:55
Here is my carbine 14.5" DD LW carbine. Weighs in at 5lbs 15 oz.
Here is my carbine 14.5" DD LW carbine. Weighs in at 5lbs 15 oz.
what rear sight is that?
Chad
crusader377
06-28-11, 09:56
what rear sight is that?
Chad
Matech BUIS
Very good info indeed!
I'm still a noob but after two carbine classes I came to the conclusion that my AR at 8+lbs is way to heavy for me.
Looks like it's time to save up for an SR15. Sure as he'll would like to hold one first before I drop $2K+ on it but alas, in NJ that is not going to happen. Might warrant a trip to PA
6.6 lb unloaded
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262776_10150207815070736_688260735_7266378_2408097_n.jpg
6.6 lb unloaded
a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/262776_10150207815070736_688260735_7266378_2408097_n.jpg
Photo no worky
Photo no worky
sorry that's what I get for trying to post from my phone lol
Chad
Oh, I misunderstood your first post. I thought you meant there are two AK's with optics that weigh less than an SR-15 without optics. Nevermind.
No stamped steel gun from the 1940s with optics is going to be lighter than a SR15 with irons :lol::lol::lol:
Very good info indeed!
I'm still a noob but after two carbine classes I came to the conclusion that my AR at 8+lbs is way to heavy for me.
Looks like it's time to save up for an SR15. Sure as he'll would like to hold one first before I drop $2K+ on it but alas, in NJ that is not going to happen. Might warrant a trip to PA
Alex, before you spend over 2000$ on a KAC rifle, what do you currently use? I would say you probably could just get a Magpul CTR and a Knights rail(some places will install it, or order a new upper from BCM) and you will be fine. I would guess nearly all the weight savings is really in the CTR and the rail. I realize that the barrel is also very light, but I really question the difference that it makes and at what cost(accuracy,money, and resistance to heat)? There are more accurate, fluted or dimpled, and different profiles available.
I know the KAC bolt is cool, but I do not really believe it is needed that badly. Many people here swear by the reliability of ARs with normal bolts, and I think that parts replacement will be an issue later on. I never had a failure to extract with my SR15, but it was not 100% reliable as many would make you believe. I am not trying to say the SR15 is not reliable, just I really do not feel it is any better than any of my issued M16A2s. Its just as polished of a turd as a polished turd can be :) I would not go to the range and bet anyone with a military style AK that your rifle will be more reliable.... The AR15 magazine has some issues, and that is not even talking about the few issues that the design has with parts reliability and maintenance.
Chris,
Point well made, and point taken.
However, the benefits of the SR15 are not only the weight, but the ambi lower. That is what it's the main driving force for me, but this is not the thread to discuss this. It's the added benefit of the weight which brings me to considering that rifle.
Right now I have a MOE stock (pinned one click from full collapsed, NJ sucks) but I am sure the Troy 12" MRF CX and FSB are not helping in the weight or balance department. With a pinned brake from the factory I had few options for a longer rail. In hind sight, I should have bought the DD equivalent which would have saved some weight. But I an done trying to fix the short comings on that rifle.
I'm in the process of gathering parts to build a LW rifle for my fiancé. I got her an 11" TRX extreme and the weight difference to the MRF is very noticeable.
We shall see how light her rifle comes out to be. Maybe I'll build myself a similar upper and use a KAC lower. Could be the way to go.
Okay, back on topic. Sorry
Chris,
Point well made, and point taken.
However, the benefits of the SR15 are not only the weight, but the ambi lower. That is what it's the main driving force for me, but this is not the thread to discuss this. It's the added benefit of the weight which brings me to considering that rifle.
Right now I have a MOE stock (pinned one click from full collapsed, NJ sucks) but I am sure the Troy 12" MRF CX and FSB are not helping in the weight or balance department. With a pinned brake from the factory I had few options for a longer rail. In hind sight, I should have bought the DD equivalent which would have saved some weight. But I an done trying to fix the short comings on that rifle.
I'm in the process of gathering parts to build a LW rifle for my fiancé. I got her an 11" TRX extreme and the weight difference to the MRF is very noticeable.
We shall see how light her rifle comes out to be. Maybe I'll build myself a similar upper and use a KAC lower. Could be the way to go.
Okay, back on topic. Sorry
I understand how you feel about the KAC lower, as I kept mine. I really think the only downsides are the compatibility with the redi mag and the fact you still need a BAD lever to actually hold the bolt back as the SR15 only has an ambi bolt release.
I think selling the upper and buying a new one probably is the easiest way to deal with it. Nothing wrong with buying a whole second rifle if that is really what you want. If you cannot have collapsible stocks I would really be tempted to put an A2 stock on it and just build up a 18 or 20 inch barreled rifle. I guess I have too many fond memories of my M16 :) Everyone tells me that going from 14.5 to 16.1 isn't a big deal, and I just feel that 16, to me, feels way more like 18 or 20. I do not think moving up to a 18 or 20 is that big of a deal compared to a 16 inch rifle. Its really like buying a quad cab F150 because the quad cab F250 is too big. If I really want a small ranger or single cab F150, than thats what I want. We are talking 2000$+ rifles here even if you assemble one full of KAC parts, so I really feel the 200$ NFA tax isn't that bad.
I guess in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey, you really do not have those options.... You might as well buy a permed 14.5 if that is really what you want. I guess that makes getting a MK12 clone more appealing.
I understand how you feel about the KAC lower, as I kept mine. I really think the only downsides are the compatibility with the redi mag and the fact you still need a BAD lever to actually hold the bolt back as the SR15 only has an ambi bolt release.
I think selling the upper and buying a new one probably is the easiest way to deal with it. Nothing wrong with buying a whole second rifle if that is really what you want. If you cannot have collapsible stocks I would really be tempted to put an A2 stock on it and just build up a 18 or 20 inch barreled rifle. I guess I have too many fond memories of my M16 :) Everyone tells me that going from 14.5 to 16.1 isn't a big deal, and I just feel that 16, to me, feels way more like 18 or 20. I do not think moving up to a 18 or 20 is that big of a deal compared to a 16 inch rifle. Its really like buying a quad cab F150 because the quad cab F250 is too big. If I really want a small ranger or single cab F150, than thats what I want. We are talking 2000$+ rifles here even if you assemble one full of KAC parts, so I really feel the 200$ NFA tax isn't that bad.
I guess in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey, you really do not have those options.... You might as well buy a permed 14.5 if that is really what you want. I guess that makes getting a MK12 clone more appealing.
Already have a Mk12 clone.. I don't have a fancy digital scale, but on a bathroom scale this guy comes in at 10.2lbs unloaded.
http://avoronoff.hypermart.net/Firearms/SPR_AMMO_2_SM.jpg
As for the 14.5" you are right, there is no point in getting a 16" bbl only to have to perm a brake onto it either way. That is my only consurn re. the SR15. There is no way I want to cut that barrel, let alone pay $250 for the tool to remove the rail in order to get to the barrel. lol
To get the best of both worlds I may just build a LW upper and use a SR15 lower with a BAD.
Back to the weight discussion.
jonconsiglio
07-01-11, 11:11
As for the 14.5" you are right, there is no point in getting a 16" bbl only to have to perm a brake onto it either way. That is my only consurn re. the SR15. There is no way I want to cut that barrel, let alone pay $250 for the tool to remove the rail in order to get to the barrel. lol
To get the best of both worlds I may just build a LW upper and use a SR15 lower with a BAD.
Back to the weight discussion.
Just in case you weren't aware, KAC has stated the sr15 will run reliably when the barrel is cut to 14.5". I believe I'm replacing my URX II with a 12" DD RIS II pretty soon and had entertained cutting the barrel to 14.5".
I'm sure there's a couple shops that will cut it there that also sell the sr15, that way you don't have to deal with the URX tool yourself.
I'll edit this post in a bit with a couple of my guns as to stay on topic...
Just in case you weren't aware, KAC has stated the sr15 will run reliably when the barrel is cut to 14.5". I believe I'm replacing my URX II with a 12" DD RIS II pretty soon and had entertained cutting the barrel to 14.5".
I'm sure there's a couple shops that will cut it there that also sell the sr15, that way you don't have to deal with the URX tool yourself.
I'll edit this post in a bit with a couple of my guns as to stay on topic...
Yes I'm aware it will run with a 14.5. Just don't want to spend $ on the tool and honestly would not want to mollest such a high quality rifle any more than I would have too lol. There are no shops around me that can do the work, plus all the locals sell it for upwards of $2500. Impact guns has it for just shy of $2k even with the shipping and FFL fees, saving the taxes, it's a much better deal lol.
pleaforwar
04-30-12, 21:42
ADCOR Bear 7 lbs 0.2 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03607.jpg
Colt LE6920 MOE 6 lbs 6.4 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03612.jpg
Daniel Defense M4V5 LW 6 lbs 5.8 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03608.jpg
JP Enterprises CTR-02 7 lbs 6.4 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03611.jpg
Noveske N4 w/14.5″ Barrel 7 lbs 1.8 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03609.jpg
POF P415 w/16″ barrel 7 lbs 12.2 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03610.jpg
7.62 Rifles
FN SCAR 17 7 lbs 15 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03615.jpg
H&K MR762 9 lbs 10 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03614.jpg
Knight’s Armament SR-25 16″ Barrel 9 lbs 5 oz
http://pleaforwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/DSC03613.jpg
Thank you for this very informative thread, pleaforwar! Thank you (and others who provided info) for all the effort you put into this.
Anyone putting together a new rifle needs to spend time here first.
I also vote sticky status!!!
BufordTJustice
05-01-12, 20:10
http://img.tapatalk.com/430883c6-87e8-50b3.jpg
Bcm 14.5" middy upper. T1 in a dd mount. Vltor a5 system with a5h4 buffer. Various 123 batteries and goodies inside the EMOD and MIAD. Aluminum mp trigger guard. IWC sling mount.
No mag: 8.05 lbs.
EDIT: There are a total of 6 CR123 batteries in the stock and grip....and two in the TLR-1s (obviously). CR123 Energizer Photo Lithium Ultimates weigh .6oz each. So subtract 3.6oz for the batteries not in the light and .4oz for the two bottles of Machine Gunner's lube.
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