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Ned Christiansen
10-29-07, 09:44
5.56 / .223 Ballistickers are on the shelf in:

55 @3000

62@2800
62@2950
62@3100

77@2600
77@2675
77@2750

Ballistickers are black with text in a desert tan. they are 1 X 1 1/4 so they fit nicely in the left side of an EoTech, left side of an upper receiver (with text vertical for easy reading), right side of a magazine well, or back on a telescoping or solid stock (if it is a smooth, and not pebbled, surface).

Ballistics are calculated using a 2.5" sight height and 100 yard zero. The velocities should pretty much cover most scenarios in terms of load choice (say, commercial 77's or NATO-spec) and barrel lengths. No, every possible combo is not going to be available, but anything between these velocities is not going to be very far off. For example, the dif at 300 yards between the 62@2950 and the 62@3100 is just over 1 1/2" in drop. The 77's, with their greater ballisitc coefficient, the dif at 500 yards between the 2750 and 2675 velocities is only 4".

Ballistickers also include wind drift in inches with a full-value (90 degree) wind at 10 MPH.

Point of impact is given at 25, 50, 100, and every 50 yards beyond that to 500 yards.

Pricing is the same as for EoStickers, $10 for one and $8 for each additional one in the same order, mix n' matching Ballistickers and EoStickers no prob.

Disclaimers: These are stickers, only stickers. They're good stickers, but they are not rated to hold up to being soaked in oil or being used as a skid pad for the carbine. Applied to a clean, dry surface and given a minimum of care they will last a long time. Other disclaimer: ballistic info has been collected from numerous sources, including ballistic programs, manufacturers' data, military documents, and personal range data. Each source has been cross-checked with the others and I have found them largely supportive of one another. The many, many factors affecting a bullet's path cannot be accounted for one one sticker, obviously. The information on these stickers is intended to give the user a handy, general guide for 5.56 carbine/rifle applications where aiming error would generally easily exceed any POI changes induced by temperature, barometric pressure, etc.

Stickers made to your exact ballistic specs will be available in minimum orders of 100, at $6 each.

Also have plenty of EoStickers: http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7594

PayPal using metalmaster@m-guns.com or mail checks made out to Ned Christiansen, to:

M-G
PO Box 42
Three Rivers, MI
49093

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Robb Jensen
10-30-07, 07:41
Ned I would buy 3ea Ballistickers if you made them for 55gr (16" bbl velocity) for a 2.5" optic-over-bore sighted in for POA/POI at 50yds.

Cold Zero
10-30-07, 07:58
Ned I would buy 3ea Ballistickers if you made them for 55gr (16" bbl velocity) for a 2.5" optic-over-bore sighted in for POA/POI at 50yds.


I too would like that formula as well.

Ned Christiansen
10-31-07, 08:51
Duly noted, guys. I will certainly respond to a wide enough demand and I know some guys prefer the 50 yd. zero.

ST911
10-31-07, 12:42
Ned I would buy 3ea Ballistickers if you made them for 55gr (16" bbl velocity) for a 2.5" optic-over-bore sighted in for POA/POI at 50yds.

Same here.

Ned Christiansen
11-01-07, 09:15
Gang up on me, whydont'cha.....:D

subzero
11-01-07, 16:01
Same here.

Agreed. I'd take 6, for starters.

-Wes-
11-03-07, 22:06
Very interested in 5 or so 16"/ 55gr/ 50yd'ers as well. The one I made is crap compared to those.

Ned Christiansen
11-04-07, 09:37
OK guys-- tell me what velocity you consider right then-- I'd say 2950, that's what we pretty consistently get out of XM193/16". Sometimes more, seldom less. My 55 @ 3000 sticker is actually meant to be the "XM193 out of a 16" barrel" sticker.

-Wes-
11-04-07, 22:03
This is the info I was using. I don't know who to give credit to, I saved it a long time ago.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1241/m193ballisticchartny2.jpg

Seem right?

Lumpy196
11-04-07, 23:17
Ned I would buy 3ea Ballistickers if you made them for 55gr (16" bbl velocity) for a 2.5" optic-over-bore sighted in for POA/POI at 50yds.



Id be all over that.

Ned Christiansen
11-05-07, 00:03
2700 is way low going by what I've seen over the last 5-6 years.....anybody?

subzero
11-05-07, 05:36
2700 is way low going by what I've seen over the last 5-6 years.....anybody?

I think I recognize that chart from the M16 Ammo Oracle. It has M193 at 3132 fps out of a 16" barrel.

A shooting buddy and I chronoed a bunch of stuff (Q3131, Q3131A, 223R1 and Ga Arms Canned Heat) a couple of years ago and it all came in well under that threshhold. I think 2950 is a good number for non-M193 considering most of what we saw was between 2900 and 3000 fps.

Robb Jensen
11-05-07, 05:44
Ned I think 2950fps would be perfect.

Cold Zero
11-05-07, 06:05
2,950 works for me.

Joe Mamma
12-05-07, 11:18
2,950 works for me.

Ned, how are these coming along? I'm interested in these too.

Joe Mamma

Ned Christiansen
01-22-08, 09:38
OK, I have the 55 at 2950 and 75 at 2675 stickers, using a 50-yard zero. Sorry this took so long guys.

Also have plenty of the others plus the EoStickers.

Rmplstlskn
01-22-08, 15:07
OK, I have the 55 at 2950 and 75 at 2675 stickers, using a 50-yard zero. Sorry this took so long guys.

Also have plenty of the others plus the EoStickers.

I don't see a hotlink for them, nor any info on them in your first post...

I assume we just send you an email and request these new ones...
BTW, I'll take TWO (2) 55g. and ONE (1) 75g., 16" barrel, 50yd zero.

Rmpl

Ned Christiansen
01-22-08, 21:08
My goof-- they are 55@3000 and 75@ 2650, both for 50 yd zero.

Just email me or send $10 for one and $8 more per extra, mix and match OK, to
MG
box 42
Three Rivers, MI 49093

Make it out to me please. Any check will do. Never got screwed by a gun person so personal checks fine, no hold.

Shihan
01-23-08, 12:56
Any chance of doing M855 amd 77gr at 50yds? I sent you an email to order the 2 new ones.

nickdrak
02-04-09, 17:53
Ned,

PayPal sent for (4) Ballistickers:

(2x) 55 @ 3000
&
(2x) 62 @ 2800

Lostinthewoods
02-05-09, 22:52
Sent an e-mail for 4 of them.
Thanks, Brad

Ned Christiansen
02-06-09, 08:55
Thanks guys.

nickdrak
02-10-09, 14:51
Thanx Ned. These Ballistickers are pure genius! (As are the Eostickers).
http://i44.tinypic.com/qytpxl.jpg

Ned Christiansen
02-10-09, 20:02
Man you got those fast-- I think I mailed them yesterday.

Mikey
02-10-09, 23:21
I'll take one for 55g and 75g from a 24" bbl. Optic 2.5" over the bore.

Jer
08-31-09, 13:51
Any plans to make these in .308 or is that a dumb question? :confused:

Ned Christiansen
08-31-09, 18:20
Eventually.... probably.....

thjey might not stick to walnut so good:D

Jer
08-31-09, 18:24
Eventually.... probably.....

thjey might not stick to walnut so good:D

No walnut on my AR10. :cool: