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Ok so I STOLE a GEN 2 G19 for $320. Gun had about 100rds through it. :D
So this is going to be my new project gun. Here is what it I am going to do to it:
1. Change out all the springs that could be worn out.
2. Change out the factory mag release to the Vickers Tactical.
3. Change out the factory slide catch to the Vickers Tactical.
4. Install Ameriglo "Hackathorn" i-dot sights.
5. Install 3.5 Connector.
6. Round and polish striker block.
7. Polish trigger bar and any other components that need it (remove burrs and such).
8. Stipple.
Will post updates as the project moves along.
C4
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Glock/GEN2_G19.jpg
Gen 2s are my favorites. I have one I got screwed on in an internet deal that has Phase 3 malfunction problems (and a ghetto-fabulous chrome barrel) but I otherwise wish they had just added the light rail to that grip style.
Instead I buy Gen 3s and have Boresight Solutions essentially cut the grip down the Gen 2 dimensions.
Grant,
Dont think you can install the Vickers slide release with the 2-pin model Glocks. If you prove me wrong, I would be happy to know :D
I love a Gen2.
I kinda wish I hadnt traded my stipple 19 in on the G19 RTF2, but I figured the RTF would be harder to come by later.
Wish I still had both.
Funny how much smaller that gun feels without the finger grooves aint it ?
I still have mine that my wife purchased for my Christmas present in 1993. It remains stock to this day.
Grant,
Dont think you can install the Vickers slide release with the 2-pin model Glocks. If you prove me wrong, I would be happy to know :D
I think you are right, different slide stop.
Grant,
Dont think you can install the Vickers slide release with the 2-pin model Glocks. If you prove me wrong, I would be happy to know :D
Ya know, you might be right. Will have to look into it.
C4
I love a Gen2.
I kinda wish I hadnt traded my stipple 19 in on the G19 RTF2, but I figured the RTF would be harder to come by later.
Wish I still had both.
Funny how much smaller that gun feels without the finger grooves aint it ?
Ya MUCH smaller. Remember the golden rule. Never sell a gun. ;)
C4
To me, the GEN 2 Glock's (specifically the G19) make the best CCW option as the lack of rail reduces the footprint even more.
C4
SpookyPistolero
08-02-11, 15:07
Very nice! Look me up when you want to sell it, haha.
I've been hunting a gen 2 19 for a while. I think they might be the best 9mm ever produced.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-02-11, 17:03
The Gen 3 frame should have added a light rail and thats it. The 2 was a perfect grip IMO.
Please forgive my ignorance, but if the gun has 100 rounds through it, why would the springs need to be replaced? Just because of their age?
eternal24k
08-02-11, 18:32
Please forgive my ignorance, but if the gun has 100 rounds through it, why would the springs need to be replaced? Just because of their age?
I was just going to ask the same thing.
Ok so I STOLE a GEN 2 G19 for $320. Gun had about 100rds through it. :D ...
Darn… I thought this thread was an announcement about some Gen 2 Trade Ins that you had a desperate need to get rid of… :angry:
j/k... enjoy it, because there are a few of us who would love to... ;)
Beat Trash
08-02-11, 18:52
I have some Gen3 Glock 19's that are the 2 pin models. I'd be real interested to hear if the Vickers slide release will work.
Yes Grant, you stole that gun. Stealing is a sin. If you start to feel guilty about being a sinner, let me know. I'll give you $320 for the gun, just to ease your guilt...
The Gen2 Glock 19's look very proportional in my opinion. The perfect CCW gun.
Nephrology
08-02-11, 19:05
Gen 2 G19 is the best gun Glock has ever put out. I still want to get my hands on one.
militarymoron
08-02-11, 19:34
yes, the vickers slide release works on the gen 2 glock - here it is on my G19. grant - nice steal. i'd buy another gen 2 G19 in a heartbeat if i could find one at that price and condition.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/militarymoron/mmg19.jpg
I would never sell my Gen 2 G19 not even for twice the price you paid for that one.
yes, the vickers slide release works on the gen 2 glock - here it is on my G19.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/militarymoron/mmg19.jpg
Curious, who did the stippling?
Looks nice...simple and very functional.
-Rainman
QuietShootr
08-02-11, 20:40
This is a placeholder for a pic of my NOS G19 I just got :D
Please forgive my ignorance, but if the gun has 100 rounds through it, why would the springs need to be replaced? Just because of their age?
Typically guns that are this old, you want to change out the springs.
Remember that you do PM's on your guns because of round count OR time. So in this instance, the gun is more than 5yrs old.
While this gun would most likely run fine, we do PM's to head off any potential problem instead of waiting for a problem and then having to fix it.
C4
I have some Gen3 Glock 19's that are the 2 pin models. I'd be real interested to hear if the Vickers slide release will work.
Yes Grant, you stole that gun. Stealing is a sin. If you start to feel guilty about being a sinner, let me know. I'll give you $320 for the gun, just to ease your guilt...
The Gen2 Glock 19's look very proportional in my opinion. The perfect CCW gun.
Ya I know. I should be arrested for theft. :D
The GEN 2 G19 is the best CCW gun Glock ever put out IMHO. Funny how they took this great gun and screwed it up so much.
C4
yes, the vickers slide release works on the gen 2 glock - here it is on my G19.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/militarymoron/mmg19.jpg
Curious, who did the stippling?
Looks nice...simple and very functional.
-Rainman
Also, what's the finish on the frame? Looks great.
If you stipple it you're a dick....
I had some doubt about using the Vickers stop in my newly acquired Gen 2 17. Todd from TD emailed this weekend and said there would be no problems.
If you stipple it you're a dick....
Uhm, are you talking to me??
C4
The gen 2 G19 is the only glock I still own, mine is made in Austria, wait, would that be a Gen 1 then? The slide is worn shiny. I don't shoot it much anymore.
militarymoron
08-02-11, 21:34
Curious, who did the stippling?
Looks nice...simple and very functional.
-Rainman
i did - thanks. ugly yes. but feels much better than the stock grip for me.
Also, what's the finish on the frame? Looks great.
krylon. the slide is alumahyde.
i bought this G19 in 1990, and it's been my 'go everywhere' beater pistol since then. camping, hiking etc.
militarymoron
08-02-11, 21:38
If you stipple it you're a dick....
if so, then i am. i've no qualms about changing something on a firearm to suit my needs. i just got this brand new gen 3 G19 done at cold bore solutions. :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v483/militarymoron/cbc10.jpg
krylon. the slide is alumahyde.
What color? Brown Boots? Looks like it has a satin-ish sheen to it -- and loads better than the flat camo brown.
Huge fan of your site, by the way. Sorry -- have to say it.
militarymoron
08-02-11, 21:43
What color? Brown Boots? Looks like it has a satin-ish sheen to it -- and loads better than the flat camo brown.
Huge fan of your site, by the way. Sorry -- have to say it.
my mistake - i just checked. it's aervoe 'light coyote'. thanks, much appreciated.
Beat Trash
08-02-11, 22:42
Ya I know. I should be arrested for theft. :D
The GEN 2 G19 is the best CCW gun Glock ever put out IMHO. Funny how they took this great gun and screwed it up so much.
C4
Yes some people can F**k up a wet dream!
Wish I had tucked a few of them away. But then I'd settle for a deal on a Gen 3 RTF with straight slide serrations.
Militarymoron
Thanks for the info about the Vickers slide stop in the 2 pin guns. Installing these in my guns is on my to-do list.
Magic_Salad0892
08-03-11, 03:41
I wouldn't stipple it.
IMHO, if they'd remove the M1913 rail, and finger grooves then Gen4 would be superior to all other models. They need to fix the gay extractors though.
But the Gen2 has a gnarly ass simple AK look to it, that would be destroyed with a wood burning kit...
I wouldn't stipple it.
IMHO, if they'd remove the M1913 rail, and finger grooves then Gen4 would be superior to all other models. They need to fix the gay extractors though.
But the Gen2 has a gnarly ass simple AK look to it, that would be destroyed with a wood burning kit...
Do you own a belt sander?
I have three Gen2 19's that I rely on totally for carry. The last one I bought is the oldest one I have.I did the upgrades on the internals and she runs like a champ.It's the one I carry most often.
The Vickers mag release is the best one yet,although this one doesn't have it yet.
Please don't stipple that original grip.:D Your pistol really looks good.
Here is a link to an interesting post on the history of the generation changes. I can't vouch for the accuracy. I seem to remember from an armorer's class that the finger grooves were added because of import requirements, but can't find that when I search. Does anyone else remember hearing or reading that?
I also prefer the Gen 2 grip w/o grooves and wish they'd never changed. I could live with a light rail on the Gen 2, take it or leave it. The 40's got three pins so I may try that slide release.
Here is my Model 23 with a little modernizing. I had to think twice about milling the slide for the Trijicon but I said screw it and went ahead with it. They now make a machined insert plate that can cover the milled area if I wan't to remove the RDS.
http://glock.pro/showthread.php/358-GLOCK-Pistol-History-amp-Evolution
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/DSC_0198.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/DSC_0196.jpg
If anyone knows where one of these (Gen2 19) is hiding, send me a PM please :)
I'd like to get one.
Here's a Glock accounting of the evolution. No mention of an import requirement for finger grooves so I guess that "improvement" was Glock's choice. Too bad. :mad:
http://www.teamglock.com/download/gen4.pdf
Uhm, are you talking to me??
C4
Yes, but I wasn't being serious about you bein' a dick...
I just like the gun they way it is.
If anyone knows where one of these (Gen2 19) is hiding, send me a PM please :)
I'd like to get one.
LOL, ya right. Good luck.
You can set up a search and see if one shows up on GB, but expect to see them go for $450-$500 (USED).
C4
Yes, but I wasn't being serious about you bein' a dick...
I just like the gun they way it is.
I figured you were kidding.
C4
SeaSoldier
08-03-11, 20:02
I found one exactly like yours with probably around the same round count. It was at my local gun shop on Sat. It took all my strength to walk out without it. I stopped back by today knowing with my luck it would be gone. Some how it was still there. I took that to mean I was supposed to have it. I got a real good deal on it but not as good as yours. Mine is complete with Austrian proof marks. It will be going to tgginc for 360 stippling.
QuietShootr
08-03-11, 20:33
I might be able to come off of one of the ones I found for that much money, damn. These are NIB in the original Tupperware boxes.
QuietShootr
08-03-11, 20:36
Here is a link to an interesting post on the history of the generation changes. I can't vouch for the accuracy. I seem to remember from an armorer's class that the finger grooves were added because of import requirements, but can't find that when I search. Does anyone else remember hearing or reading that?
I also prefer the Gen 2 grip w/o grooves and wish they'd never changed. I could live with a light rail on the Gen 2, take it or leave it. The 40's got three pins so I may try that slide release.
Here is my Model 23 with a little modernizing. I had to think twice about milling the slide for the Trijicon but I said screw it and went ahead with it. They now make a machined insert plate that can cover the milled area if I wan't to remove the RDS.
http://glock.pro/showthread.php/358-GLOCK-Pistol-History-amp-Evolution
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/DSC_0198.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h264/DWood13/DSC_0196.jpg
Who did that Trijicon install, and how much was it?
FailureDrill-P099
08-03-11, 20:39
My project G19 CGN 1997 paid 325 for it. I replace all internals, G17 smooth trigger, Vickers mag release, OEM extended slide stop, NY1 trigger - connector. just waiting for some trijicon HD's to complete it.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/dunklarsen/IMG_3176.jpg
Got this last year from a co worker he never shot it. NIB G17 AZG 1994 paid 350 for it, still has the factory copper lube in it
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/dunklarsen/IMG_2213.jpg
Who did that Trijicon install, and how much was it?
One Source Tactical
$265 + $50 for the suppressor sights.
http://www.onesourcetactical.com/advancedcombatglockslidemodificationsoncustomersslide.aspx
I traded a Gen3 G23 for my Gen2 G19. The guy thought I was crazy, but I didn't mind.
The Gen2 grip is so much better for CCW. It's my go-to gun for everything now.
I need a G17 smooth trigger, though.
My 1st G19 was a Gen2 that I picked up used in '98 or so. Dry fired/ range fired that sucker so much w/out snap caps, I shattered the breach area. Glock did the right thing and replaced the slide w/ a Gen3, but the bastards replaced all the perfectly smoothed and worn parts w/ new stiff and gritty parts....... basterds:angry::mad:
Comparing the Gen2 to a Gen3, the Gen2 slips in the hand more when firing for me. Aside from that, I like the Gen2 better. Like the smoothed out lines and what not.
SeaSoldier
08-09-11, 19:16
I forgot I got onto the waiting list at Boresight. I think I'll send my new 2nd GenG19 to him for his A package. I have been real happy with tgginc but I feel my collection has a hole in it without a Boresight Glock.
G19 Gen2, Born NOV89 (Same month that the Berlin Wall fell).
Got it NIB last year from a shop in Anchorage that had it in inventory this whole time. She's old enough to drink.
I've kept it stock except for the Glock NS, '92 upgrade parts, and a captured RSA.
The mid-size Gen2 Glocks are the best pistols they ever put out.
http://gallery.me.com/sgtlmj/100256/IMG_3696/web.jpg
The first pistol I ever bought is a 2nd generation G19. I bought it in 1994 upon turning 21. It is still going strong after 40k+ rounds through it. I don't think I could ever get rid of this pistol.
Over the years I have modded it, carried it and shot it. Now she is back to 100% stock and comes out for fun at the range from time to time. I now carry either a G26 or a G30.
I had the same Gen 2 G19 twice and sold it twice. I got it new in the mid 90's. I think it was my second Glock. I'm pretty sure my first was a 21.
There are several LE here that work plainclothes and are carrying Gen 2 G19's. And they've been running them since the early to mid 90's. No problems. The guns have held up perfectly.
Look what I found! Another low round count "LE" GEN 2 G17 (with NS's). :D
Stole this one for $360. :cool:
C4
http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/Glock/GEN2_G17.jpg
I like mine.... she turned 22 this year.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/AMMOTECH/STA73010.jpg
--I posted more pics and info in the Glock pic thread--
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After all this Gen2 porn, I did some minor upgrades to my g19 Gen2 that I got around '92. I added Ameriglo Pro Operator sights, LAV slide stop & mag release and some minor stippling:
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/G19_GenII.jpg
I took it to the range today & ran some drills. It handled great. The slide stop worked fine in my 2-pin Gen2 (only 200 rds today).
After all this Gen2 porn, I did some minor upgrades to my g19 Gen2 that I got around '92. I added Ameriglo Pro Operator sights, LAV slide stop & mag release and some minor stippling:
http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/G19_GenII.jpg
I took it to the range today & ran some drills. It handled great. The slide stop worked fine in my 2-pin Gen2 (only 200 rds today).
Excellent stippling job. NICE!!! Did you stipple the back strap at all?
Excellent stippling job. NICE!!! Did you stipple the back strap at all?
Yes, I did the back strap. Generally, I followed the original checkering, but on the back strap, I went slightly higher.
Look what I found! Another low round count "LE" GEN 2 G17 (with NS's). :D
Stole this one for $360. :cool:
Grant,
Where are you finding these ridiculous deals?!?
SpookyPistolero
08-20-11, 12:33
Took possession of a gen 2 '19 today. Night sights, 4 mags, original Tupperware for $350. Weehaw! Shot it immediately. Had three jams in 200 rnds. Sort of horizontal stove pipes; with at least one the brass was still in the extractor. I assume the extractor spring was to blame. I replaced them with gen3 springs from a G33 I no longer use. Will run it again next weekend.
Two questions:
1) I'm not changing out springs related to the trigger grp. So other than that, what's worth changing out? Was going to order a new recoil spring for starters.
2) will any 9mm OEM slings work? Or are some generation specific? (Aside from gen4 recoil springs)
3) where's the best place to order OEM springs from?
FailureDrill-P099
08-20-11, 17:00
Got the HD's put on, now she is done.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/dunklarsen/IMG_3998.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/dunklarsen/IMG_3991.jpg
FailureDrill-P099
08-20-11, 17:07
glockparts.com has full OEM spring kits. Kit will replace all springs in the firearm for 19.95 I have used them a lot they are GTG shipping is fast. Check it out. Thats what I ordered for my Gen2 19.
http://glockparts.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=126610&CAT=741
Took possession of a gen 2 '19 today. Night sights, 4 mags, original Tupperware for $350. Weehaw! Shot it immediately. Had three jams in 200 rnds. Sort of horizontal stove pipes; with at least one the brass was still in the extractor. I assume the extractor spring was to blame. I replaced them with gen3 springs from a G33 I no longer use. Will run it again next weekend.
Two questions:
1) I'm not changing out springs related to the trigger grp. So other than that, what's worth changing out? Was going to order a new recoil spring for starters.
2) will any 9mm OEM slings work? Or are some generation specific? (Aside from gen4 recoil springs)
3) where's the best place to order OEM springs from?
FYI for any of you looking for 2nd Gen 17's
http://www.summitgunbroker.com/Glock_17__369.html
I want one, didnt want to post it, but Im done on gun money for the year.
nobody knows
10-01-11, 17:33
I really want a gen2 g19, I don't like the gen3's finger groove's. And I don't like the gen4's at all, except for maybe the 26. Gen two's are not easy to find around here but wen you do people generally let them go for $300 sometimes less. I just got to keep an eye out.
I have these two G19s. My favorite Glocks. The bottom one I bought new in 1996 (BLS4XX). It was my third pistol I ever owned. I put night sights on it in 1998 when I went to the police academy. They are still burning bright. The top one I just got in trade for a Sig P250. It is much older (XK1xx). I think Glock recalled these and replaced the internals. I thought if you had a Glock with black coated internals that you were supposed to get them replaced? These are the only Glocks that I own, except for my issued one, that I did not put sand paper or the soldering iron to.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af269/CoryCop25/Guns/P1010159.jpg
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af269/CoryCop25/Guns/P1010160.jpg
It is much older (XK1xx). I think Glock recalled these and replaced the internals. I thought if you had a Glock with black coated internals that you were supposed to get them replaced?
I have an G19 that I bought new around 92-93. I sent it in for the "upgrade" (not recall) in the late 90's.
My locking block & connector are still black, but my trigger bar is silver in color.
I have an G19 that I bought new around 92-93. I sent it in for the "upgrade" (not recall) in the late 90's.
My locking block & connector are still black, but my trigger bar is silver in color.
Everything inside is black. I pulled this gun apart and there are barely any rounds fired from it. A couple upgrades and this thing is brand new!
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af269/CoryCop25/Guns/P1010162.jpg
yea, your trigger bar is the old style. The rear of the vertical extension on the newer trigger bars has a greater angle.
ETA: You search online for pdf of glock armorers manual. p.90 of the 2009 manual shows the differences
yea, your trigger bar is the old style. The rear of the vertical extension on the newer trigger bars has a greater angle.
ETA: You search online for pdf of glock armorers manual. p.90 of the 2009 manual shows the differences
I fired off an email to Glock about this. I will see what they say.
You know with the 2nd gen Glocks, is there a feel or need to stipple the grip thus done on 3rd gen Glocks to make a better feel? I do love the looks on the 2nd gen since it has no finger grooves.
Pick this up yesterday 3158531585
Late Gen2 G19 w/ Ameriglo Hackathorn sights (modified rear). Oval ext mag catch makes it unique.
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