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Shotgun shooting is a big ol hole in my skill set. I plan on fixing that come October with the Rob Haught Tactical Shotgun (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=69129) course in WV :dance3:
I have a Remmy 11-87 with Nordic tube extension and side saddle.
My main question is what choke to put in it (Im ZERO on shotgun) for class, and what kind of support gear for shotgun training as far as carrying ammo goes and anything else Im missing.
You will do most of your shooting at Rob's class from ~ 10 yards at steel. What choke you use won't really matter, IMHO.
As far as support gear goes, I used a dump pouch to carry loose shells. Rob recommended a bandoleer belt that you can buy on the cheap at Wal-Mart. He also recommended the Safariland 2 round belt carriers (and offered up one of his to the top shooter in the class). He said to avoid bandoleer slings. His recommendations matched my own observations from some of my guys that I had to qualify who used them. They threw the whole balance of the gun off since they had loose weight trying to swing the gun all over the place.
You will get a class list letting you know everything else you need to bring, but I would recommend gloves. I use Mechanix Fast-fit gloves. They are $20 at Auto-Zone, Checkers, Pep Boys, etc.
Enjoy the class. Rob is an excellent instructor and shooter.
Shotgun shooting is a big ol hole in my skill set. I plan on fixing that come October with the Rob Haught Tactical Shotgun (https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=69129) course in WV :dance3:
I have a Remmy 11-87 with Nordic tube extension and side saddle.
My main question is what choke to put in it (Im ZERO on shotgun) for class, and what kind of support gear for shotgun training as far as carrying ammo goes and anything else Im missing.
Shawn i run a modified tube in my choked guns..
as good sidesaddle from 3gungear is a must, im tired of breaking every other type out there on my guns
Shawn i run a modified tube in my choked guns..
as good sidesaddle from 3gungear is a must, im tired of breaking every other type out there on my guns
my side saddle is a aluminum piece, it better not break it weighs a ton !
How about slings ?
mounting options, ect ?
Im not looking to build a HD shotty, just make sure I have the gear squared away to learn the platform.
my side saddle is a aluminum piece, it better not break it weighs a ton !
How about slings ?
mounting options, ect ?
Im not looking to build a HD shotty, just make sure I have the gear squared away to learn the platform.
I used a spare VCAS sling with one of these: http://www.blueforcegear.com/products/A1%7B47%7DA2-Buttstock-Adapter.html
And a mock UWL: http://www.blueforcegear.com/products/Blue-Force-Gear%C2%AE-Universal-Wire-Loop%E2%84%A2.html
I used a spare VCAS sling with one of these: http://www.blueforcegear.com/products/A1%7B47%7DA2-Buttstock-Adapter.html
And a mock UWL: http://www.blueforcegear.com/products/Blue-Force-Gear%C2%AE-Universal-Wire-Loop%E2%84%A2.html
If you have that laying around mind if I borrow it for the class ?
Sure. By mock UWL I used paracord and other BFG parts.
I use IC for my shotguns. With good defensive ammo, i.e. Federal Flite-Control buckshot, it'll pattern plenty tight enough.
Slings are personal preference. Stay away from 3-point designs, they are too liable to hang up on things. I like a single-point on my shotguns, but other folks like 2-points and they've got good reasons for doing so.
IMHO, all you really need is a sidesaddle, decent sights (I like ghost-rings, but you can certainly get by with rifle sights or even a bead), a short LOP stock, a sling and a white light.
For support gear, wear gloves (the previous suggestion for Mechanix is a good one), proper clothing (WV in October can be chilly and is often wet/rainy), and have a method of carrying extra shells. Dump pouches are nice for carrying bulk ammo, but reloading from them can be problematic as you never know what orientation you'll find the shells in. I generally use the dump pouch to top off my other ammo carriers between drills/stages. I have a sidesaddle on the shotgun, and generally carry several of the 2-round Safariland carriers around my belt. I've been wanting to give the Eagle patrol bandoleer a try, though. Also, The Wilderness just released a belt-mounted six-shell carrier that looks promising. I haven't tried any of the vertical-stacking competition carriers, so I can't speak to them.
I second the Federal Flight Control/Tactical stuff. Pretty awesome, well worth the money.
jtsikes0204
09-06-11, 05:13
im right there with you bud, I need to buy me a nice tac shotgun!
And ya know the wifey wants a 20 ...... I'm half tempted to try and find a decent inexpensive 20 gauge to roll with .
And ya know the wifey wants a 20 ...... I'm half tempted to try and find a decent inexpensive 20 gauge to roll with .
For a while, Wilson offered 20-gauge versions of their shotguns. Not sure if they still do or not. I have one and love it. The only downside is the lack of good defensive ammo. It makes a great trainer gun though, especially for smaller-framed shooters like kids.
found a 20 guage 870 with 18.5 inch bbl and extended tube I might just pick up.
Gutshot John
09-06-11, 16:53
There certainly aren't as many options in 20 gauge but there are some decent options for a self-defense load.
Apparently there is a Federal flitecontrol (http://www.federalpremium.com/products/details/buckshot.aspx?id=910) wad available in 20.
There are also other options. 20 gauge is almost as ubiquitous as 12. It's a great practice gun.
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