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CarlosDJackal
08-24-11, 09:12
If anyone should be excluded, it should be bloomberg and obama. If NYC re-elects him for a third term, they deserve to sink deeper into their spiraling anarchy. If I were one of the victim's family member, I would be extremely pissed off.

9/11 First Responders to be Excluded From 10th Anniversary Ceremony

Published August 17, 2011

New York – They were the first ones on the scene when the World Trade Center towers fell on September 11, 2001, but ten years later, the first responders are being told that they will not be invited to take part in this year's tenth anniversary ceremony at Ground Zero.

The city announced earlier this week that due to security and space issues, there would be no room for the first responders. Instead, they'll be invited to a private ceremony on a different date.

Retired NYPD officer Anthony Flammia told FOX News, "I'm absolutely disgusted."

He said the exclusion was "a total disrespect to the responders ... it's very easy for them to make the space for us."

Flammia said it was "up in the air" as to whether he would go to another ceremony at a later date.

He added his health continued to deteriorate as a result of being on the scene at Ground Zero.

The office of Mayor Michael Bloomberg said the focus at the September 11 ceremony would be on accommodating the families of the nearly 3,000 people who lost their lives that day in New York, Washington and a Pennsylvania field.

Two memorial pools will be unveiled in the footprints of the Towers, with the names of those lost -- including first responders -- carved in bronze plaques around the edges. Both Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush are expected to attend.
According to CNN, Bloomberg's office noted that first responders had not been invited to the previous nine memorial services, either.

But at least one, Morris Faitelwicz, vice president of the Auxiliary Police Supervisors Benevolent Association, told CNN that explanation was "nonsense" and that responders had been able to attend simply by showing up.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/08/17/11-first-responders-to-be-excluded-from-10th-anniversary-ceremony/#ixzz1VxJ5seVE

obucina
08-24-11, 10:09
i say they do what they did back in 2001. just show up.

FromMyColdDeadHand
08-24-11, 16:15
And I saw that they don't have room for clergy also. Kind of silly when you have a memorial and no place for God.

SteyrAUG
08-24-11, 16:25
I'm sure if the list was made public we could find LOTS of less worthy people who could be excluded to make space. I'm sure there will be plenty of local Muslim leaders who will be invited in the name of diversity.

Maybe most of the politicians should simply not be there to make room for those who should. The day shouldn't be an opportunity to promote your own political agenda anyway.

SteyrAUG
08-24-11, 16:29
Two memorial pools will be unveiled in the footprints of the Towers, with the names of those lost -- including first responders -- carved in bronze plaques around the edges.

And how ****ing lame is that? Memorial pools? Is that really the best we can do? How about two BIGGER ****ing twin towers. My god this shit is shameful. First we have to fight to PREVENT a Victory Mosque, and now we get a couple puddles as a memorial.

Reagans Rascals
08-24-11, 16:35
come on guys... you have to use common sense here.....or course there's no room... its not their fault all the ground zero mosques have taken up all the space...

Belmont31R
08-24-11, 16:46
And how ****ing lame is that? Memorial pools? Is that really the best we can do? How about two BIGGER ****ing twin towers. My god this shit is shameful. First we have to fight to PREVENT a Victory Mosque, and now we get a couple puddles as a memorial.




This is something that has bugged me for a long time. Its been an empty PIT for years. :mad:

GermanSynergy
08-24-11, 17:48
Is Imam Rauf invited?

SteyrAUG
08-24-11, 20:22
This is something that has bugged me for a long time. Its been an empty PIT for years. :mad:


I never thought we'd top the Vietnam Wall as the most disrespectful memorial in the US. Pretty hard to beat what is essentially nothing more than a giant tombstone with everyone's name on it (even if they did eventually erect a statue to placate veterans) but I think a couple of crappy puddles to mark an Islamic victory over the US might take the prize. Between that and that "spotlight towers" nonsense they do with a couple searchlights it's been a disgusting 10 years.

The only way the pools would be a suitable memorial is if we filled them with the blood of Islamic fundamentalists.

ST911
08-24-11, 21:17
i say they do what they did back in 2001. just show up.

This. Every last one of them.

LHS
08-24-11, 22:21
The only way the pools would be a suitable memorial is if we filled them with the blood of Islamic fundamentalists.

This.

Magic_Salad0892
08-24-11, 22:37
I like Belmont's idea, and I'll do him one better:

Build two BIGGER towers...

with AA guns on 'em. ****ers.

CarlosDJackal
08-25-11, 09:50
I like Belmont's idea, and I'll do him one better:

Build two BIGGER towers...

with AA guns on 'em. ****ers.

+1 million. And maybe a statue of Saint James the Moor Slayer to boot!! :mad:

Alex V
08-25-11, 11:27
Not allowing first responders is quite shameful indeed, I would live to hear an explanation on that by Mike.

Also, I think he already was elected for a third term, no?

As far as the memorial goes, I think it's actualy quite beautiful Architecturaly and sculpturally. I'm not going to explain the rational behind the design, and I just hope you guys are speaking out of anger in regards to it. Having been a first hand witness to the memorial from design to construction I can not possibly agree with he assessment that it's just wholes in the ground and so on.

SteyrAUG
08-25-11, 12:14
Not allowing first responders is quite shameful indeed, I would live to hear an explanation on that by Mike.

Also, I think he already was elected for a third term, no?

As far as the memorial goes, I think it's actualy quite beautiful Architecturaly and sculpturally. I'm not going to explain the rational behind the design, and I just hope you guys are speaking out of anger in regards to it. Having been a first hand witness to the memorial from design to construction I can not possibly agree with he assessment that it's just wholes in the ground and so on.


I don't care how expertly designed and executed they are. The pools symbolically are an open wound just as the Vietnam Wall is essentially a giant headstone. I, like many Americans, find the simple absence of the towers unacceptable. It is a reminder there was something great here once and now it isn't.

As it is not beyond our capacity to replace them, we should. Our enemies hated the WTC and all it represented, and that is reason enough to build two new slightly larger towers. Teach our enemies that if you take one away, you simply get a bigger one in it's place.

Alex V
08-25-11, 12:21
I don't care how expertly designed and executed they are. The pools symbolically are an open wound just as the Vietnam Wall is essentially a giant headstone. I, like many Americans, find the simple absence of the towers unacceptable. It is a reminder there was something great here once and now it isn't.

As it is not beyond our capacity to replace them, we should. Our enemies hated the WTC and all it represented, and that is reason enough to build two new slightly larger towers. Teach our enemies that if you take one away, you simply get a bigger one in it's place.

Though I agree that two new buildings should have been built that are taller and better instead of the stubby Freedom Tower, I don't know if I would have put the buildings in the same exact spot.

However, I have to disagree on the memorial being "an open wound" Perhaps due to the apsence of a rebuilt WTC, but even alone I think they are very well designed/thought out and a beautiful tribute.

I guess we will just agree to disagree...

Dave L.
08-25-11, 12:21
Is anyone really surprised by Bloomberg? He will probably start the ceremony by wiping his ass with a copy of the US Constitution.

SteyrAUG
08-25-11, 13:11
Though I agree that two new buildings should have been built that are taller and better instead of the stubby Freedom Tower, I don't know if I would have put the buildings in the same exact spot.

However, I have to disagree on the memorial being "an open wound" Perhaps due to the apsence of a rebuilt WTC, but even alone I think they are very well designed/thought out and a beautiful tribute.

I guess we will just agree to disagree...

That is how many Americans perceive it and how our enemies will celebrate it. I understand some reservation to build on hallowed ground, but given the space restraints in the area I think it is the best solution with a memorial to the victims at the entrance.

I can understand the reasons you may appreciate everything you've seen go into it, I just hope you also understand how it will be viewed symbolically by many others.

A lot of people marvel at the Vietnam Wall today, I tend to see it as a pretty headstone to remind America of their failure. It does not dignify or respect the fallen and those who sacrificed. I have similar feelings about the memorial pools.

SPARTAN HOPLITE ARMS
08-25-11, 14:11
This is something that has bugged me for a long time. Its been an empty PIT for years. :mad:

Try living here and watching this cess pool of a city and state get filthier and filthier every year. Try watching your taxes go up and up and up. Drive past the site time and again and see that, after 10 years have passed, all that's visible are port authority fences and some steel beams which just appeared above ground within the last couple of years. Then go take a look at Vegas and watch a casino get demolished and a new one go up within a year. An embarassment and a stain on America. And don't get me started on Islamic victory monuments!