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platoonDaddy
08-24-11, 15:36
Friend loaned (believe he wants me to purchase) his EOTech and in my haste, I immediately installed and visited the range to sight-in.

Then I asked myself the following questions:

1. How do I determine what model (of course he doesn't recall and unable to locate manual)?

2. Since the EOTech is sighted-in; if I remove to check for model number on the bottom, will it screw with zero?

3. When the batteries need changed; will removal/instillation screw with zero?

For sure question # 2 & 3 will probably be answered by the manual, but I first need the model number.


Note that the left side doesn't have a model number and has an allen-wrench screw.
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad176/slickville/001-3.jpg

Cheap camera, resulted in 'dark' picture. There is ONLY an up-arrow and down-arrow. No NV button
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad176/slickville/002-4.jpg

Right side of EOTech
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad176/slickville/003-5.jpg

Looking down at the EOTech
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad176/slickville/004-3.jpg

Checked out the following link and still not sure of the model:
http://www.eotech-inc.com/products/sights

NoveskeFan
08-24-11, 15:51
It looks like a 511, but maybe an older...I had a 511 and something with yours looks funny.

http://www.eotech-inc.com/product.php?id=6&cat=1

EDIT: Looks like the shroud has been removed.

platoonDaddy
08-24-11, 16:40
It looks like a 511, but maybe an older...I had a 511 and something with yours looks funny.

http://www.eotech-inc.com/product.php?id=6&cat=1

EDIT: Looks like the shroud has been removed.


Downloaded the manual and it stated the 511: Includes rugged aluminum hood assembly and knobbed, tool-less mounting bolt


The one he loaned me has a allen-wrench for mounting.

B Cart
08-24-11, 16:48
I'm not sure how to tell, but I've heard there are Chinese imitation EOtechs out there. I have the Eotech 512 model, and the one in your pics just looks funny for some reason. It may be legit but just be careful

opmike
08-24-11, 18:06
Actually, that looks like a Bushnell Holosight that someone stuck an EOTech battery compartment on (or EOTech sticker?). All EOTechs I've seen have the outer aluminium hood around the optic, the Bushnell sights don't. There are some other differences as well:

http://images2.opticsplanet.com/640-640/opplanet-bushnell-holosight-enlarge.jpg

Iraq Ninja
08-24-11, 18:25
I also agree that it appears to be a Bushnell. It didn't have a shroud, and thus the reason why the warning sticker is still on it.

Wiggity
08-24-11, 19:02
Don't buy it OP!

scoutfsu99
08-24-11, 19:07
Isn't that what the really old Eotechs looked like?

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ63hf65_k-wqLZzmUYFe4Ly9GUG_3-XFpUJanN-ossHHKE5zm5

opmike
08-24-11, 19:37
You may be right.

Any idea what model that is you have pictured? I totally forgot about the 502's (or whatever the early ones were called).

Apologies to the OP for possibly muddying up this thread.

scoutfsu99
08-24-11, 20:03
I'm pretty sure it's an ancient EO. OP, unless you're getting that for free, you're over paying. Whatever money you sink into that, you're just out that money for a better, modern optic.

N batteries are a bitch to get too.

platoonDaddy
08-24-11, 20:51
Thanks to all of you for your input.

I will continue to use until he needs it for one of his new purchases.


again thanks for info.

P2000
08-24-11, 21:07
Knockoffs that I have seen do not have the curved glass lens at the top of the window, as you look through it. Basically, if you look through the sight, you are looking through a square window, with a curved lens at the top which blocks some of the view. Bushnell and Eotech have this curved lens. A real unit also has a serial number, and you could inquire with the manufacturer.

Eric
08-24-11, 22:43
There was a version similar to the 511 that EOTech produced that lacked the hood. Like the 511, it used the N battery and absolutely sucked. They had a serious intermittent battery drain issue. I don't think I would even bother putting one on my .22.

platoonDaddy
08-25-11, 09:44
Just got off the phone with EOTech support and they said "the serial number doesn't help on determination of model number. :confused:"

Based on the manufacture date of April 2005, with the N 1.5V battery and only the up and down arrow it is a 511.A65 minus the protective cover.

Interesting that they can't match up model # with serial number.

They are still avail on the web for $400 plus.

Does anyone have experience with the 511.A65 and if so please share?

Again thanks

armakraut
08-25-11, 12:06
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc2nc3Wh8i1qbgovgo1_500.jpg

JSantoro
08-25-11, 14:30
I think that that thing is a Bushnell or some other clone. Lack of an NV button is merely indicative of a model lacking NV capability. Not substantive.

That molding detail over the elevation adjuster has me questioning things. Put an ID request into somebody I know that has a selection of EOs, including older ones that have buttons similar to that of the Bushnell pictured. I don't think that they have that molding under the hood, but that's suspicion, so hopefully we can get some word on that.

Something about the mounting looks hinkey to me, too, but that's why I sent the posted photos in for some second-guessing.

variablebinary
08-26-11, 00:13
I wouldn't buy it.

It's not like there isn't a slew of used Eotechs out there on the cheap that can actually pass the sniff test.

chadbag
08-26-11, 00:36
I would not buy it. N battery alone is enough to scare you away.

And a new one from a close out place (this one in real tree( is only $263 so if you were to buy it used, I would place a max price of around $90-$99 for it.

http://www.opticsale.com/bushnell-holosight-1x-realtree-ap-camo-riflescopes-510023ap-2409-prd1.html?gdftrk=gdfV2656_a_7c772_a_7c5290_a_7c027_d_510023AP

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However, the Bushnell (if indeed a real Bushnell) is not an EO Tech knock-off. The Bushnell is a real EO Tech taht was made by EO Tech for Bushnell as a consumer model.

Eric
08-26-11, 00:59
Finally found it. It looks like a model 502. It came without the hood and without the thumb-screw (hex screw only).
Manual (http://www.eotech-inc.com/documents/511-552_User_Manual.pdf).

chadbag
08-26-11, 01:33
Finally found it. It looks like a model 502. It came without the hood and without the thumb-screw (hex screw only).
Manual (http://www.eotech-inc.com/documents/511-552_User_Manual.pdf).

I believe the 502 became a Bushnell exclusive and was discontinued by Eo tech. There used to be something on the Eo tech website about it.

JSantoro
08-26-11, 10:00
Nice pull, Eric!

cop1211
08-26-11, 20:19
Clone. Give it back and get an Aimpoint.

KayRock
10-19-11, 23:38
(sorry to bring up an old thread) Even if it was a Bushnell Holosight if the price was right I say take it A) they were made by eotech for the civilian market B) they are kinda hard to find nowadays. I just picked one up for $50 shipped and I am very happy with it, sure if i could afford an eotech id get one but there are people out there who cant drop a ton of money on an optic. then again if i ahd money like that id get an acog.

platoonDaddy
10-20-11, 03:11
(sorry to bring up an old thread) Even if it was a Bushnell Holosight if the price was right I say take it A) they were made by eotech for the civilian market B) they are kinda hard to find nowadays. I just picked one up for $50 shipped and I am very happy with it, sure if i could afford an eotech id get one but there are people out there who cant drop a ton of money on an optic. then again if i ahd money like that id get an acog.

Where are you purchasing the "N-Batteries'?

Failure2Stop
10-20-11, 23:52
Where are you purchasing the "N-Batteries'?

I used to get mine from the photo section of WalMart or Radio Shack. I haven't even looked for them in about 5 years though.

BCmJUnKie
10-21-11, 00:08
It looks like a 551.

Not 511.

Afriend of mine has the same model. Its a 551, the buttons on his are identical.

No NV and its discontinued.

I wanted that same model a long time ago, it was my favorite cause its short.

I bought a XPS instead.

Buy a battery for it and leave it on, should have an 8 hour shutoff.

KayRock
10-21-11, 18:48
Duracell Procell @ batteryjunction.com for about $1 a battery. I have also seen regular energizers for $1.50 per two pack/. like i said its decent for the price if you could afford an Eotech or aimpoint or triji by all means but if your looking for a decent mid priced optic the bushnell holosight is good, I also own a vortex sparc (similar to a comp m1) which is also decent....I have a few rifles and could not afford an eotech for each...one day ill trade up but spending 500 on an optic kills me knowing i could buy a new rifle for that price....

scoutfsu99
10-21-11, 18:54
It looks like a 551.

Not 511.

Afriend of mine has the same model. Its a 551, the buttons on his are identical.

No NV and its discontinued.

I wanted that same model a long time ago, it was my favorite cause its short.

I bought a XPS instead.

Buy a battery for it and leave it on, should have an 8 hour shutoff.

551's are NV capable. 511's are not. The N battery EO's have the worst reputation out of an already iffy reputation for eating batteries.

KayRock
10-21-11, 19:24
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Im no photographer but here is a Bushnell Holosight Gen 1

usmcanglico
10-21-11, 19:50
I dumped my 551 for an XPS. Avoid N battery sights JMO....

KayRock
10-21-11, 19:53
for $50 ill stick with it until i can get a good deal on an eotech

Nightgunner
10-21-11, 22:27
If you decide to replace it I'll give ya the $50 for it. I have a naked plinker in the closet.