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LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-25-11, 00:11
Has anybody read the "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" series by Matthew Bracken? Ive been spending alot of time on ship lately, most of which is in a rack in the berthing, which means Im either watching movies or reading my Kindle. I downloaded this series from Amazon after hearing they were like Rawles' Patriots, just not written like a 6 year old and full of plot holes. The cover had me worried as they looked like racist right wing propaganda, but the books have turned out to be nothing of the sort.
Im about half way through the first and Im really enjoying the plot (turn a blind eye to the authors inability to form exposition). He's not the best writer, but the current events of today (project gunrunner, Patriot Act, strict gun control, etc) all coincide with the plot in an eerie way. If you cant stand the idea of loosing any more freedoms, I highly recommend you check this series out.
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/index.htm
(My current reading last has made me paranoid apparently: 1984, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Animal Farm, Patriots, Brave New World, etc. Ive gotta be on some watch list by now haha)
Moose-Knuckle
08-25-11, 04:35
(My current reading last has made me paranoid apparently: 1984, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Animal Farm, Patriots, Brave New World, etc. Ive gotta be on some watch list by now haha)
Google Federal fushion efforts. It's only a matter of time before our likes our routed and sent off to "re-eduation" camps. Your reading habits mirror mine and titles like those are mentioned in .gov terrorists handouts.
Read it a few years ago, very entertaining.
(My current reading last has made me paranoid apparently: 1984, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Animal Farm, Patriots, Brave New World, etc. Ive gotta be on some watch list by now haha)
You should throw in Unintended Consequences for good measure to that list. ;)
LegalAlien
08-25-11, 17:03
Has anybody read the "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" series by Matthew Bracken? Ive been spending alot of time on ship lately, most of which is in a rack in the berthing, which means Im either watching movies or reading my Kindle. I downloaded this series from Amazon after hearing they were like Rawles' Patriots, just not written like a 6 year old and full of plot holes. The cover had me worried as they looked like racist right wing propaganda, but the books have turned out to be nothing of the sort.
Im about half way through the first and Im really enjoying the plot (turn a blind eye to the authors inability to form exposition). He's not the best writer, but the current events of today (project gunrunner, Patriot Act, strict gun control, etc) all coincide with the plot in an eerie way. If you cant stand the idea of loosing any more freedoms, I highly recommend you check this series out.
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/index.htm
(My current reading last has made me paranoid apparently: 1984, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, Animal Farm, Patriots, Brave New World, etc. Ive gotta be on some watch list by now haha)
If La Raza and Aztlan makes you go 'hmmmm' . . . wait till you get to the 2nd book in the series. Then read the 3rd book, for Blue Helmet on ouor land paranoia.
If you want to get into full-blown paranoia mode, read "Full Black" from Brad Thor. It will make the hair on the back of your neck stand on end!!!!
After a dose of the above, you will be searching for the tin-foil!!!!!
GermanSynergy
08-25-11, 18:20
If La Raza and Aztlan makes you go 'hmmmm' . . . wait till you get to the 2nd book in the series. Then read the 3rd book, for Blue Helmet on ouor land paranoia.
If you want to get into full-blown paranoia mode, read "Full Black" from Brad Thor. It will make the hair on the back of your neck stand on end!!!!
After a dose of the above, you will be searching for the tin-foil!!!!!
Just read Full Black. Sounds spot on with what's happening in the world today.
Just read Full Black. Sounds spot on with what's happening in the world today.
You are the third person I have heard suggest this book in the last week. I may need to check it out. Is it fiction or non?
VooDoo6Actual
08-25-11, 20:06
Overton Window ....
http://www.amazon.com/Overton-Window-Glenn-Beck/dp/1439184305
GermanSynergy
08-25-11, 20:09
You are the third person I have heard suggest this book in the last week. I may need to check it out. Is it fiction or non?
Fiction. Brad Thor is a great author. Some gratuitous gun porn in his books as well. :)
You should throw in Unintended Consequences for good measure to that list. ;)
Expect to pay $100-200 for a copy these days.
I remember when I did the DSA FAL group buy on arfcom, I bought about 20 copies for $10 each and threw them in as freebies.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-25-11, 22:45
So the recommended reading that has been thrown out so far is:
Full Black by Brad Thor
The Overton Window by Glenn Beck
Unintended Consequences by John Ross (I hear there is a free PDF out there....let me see if I can find it)
Expect to pay $100-200 for a copy these days.
I remember when I did the DSA FAL group buy on arfcom, I bought about 20 copies for $10 each and threw them in as freebies.
WHAT!? I gave away a copy to a friend as a gift and repurchased it a few years ago for far less. Wow, I just looked and found the copies range from 82 to 249.50, crazy
Has anybody read the "Enemies Foreign and Domestic" series by Matthew Bracken? Ive been spending alot of time on ship lately, most of which is in a rack in the berthing, which means Im either watching movies or reading my Kindle. I downloaded this series from Amazon after hearing they were like Rawles' Patriots, just not written like a 6 year old and full of plot holes. The cover had me worried as they looked like racist right wing propaganda, but the books have turned out to be nothing of the sort.
Im about half way through the first and Im really enjoying the plot (turn a blind eye to the authors inability to form exposition). He's not the best writer, but the current events of today (project gunrunner, Patriot Act, strict gun control, etc) all coincide with the plot in an eerie way. If you cant stand the idea of loosing any more freedoms, I highly recommend you check this series out.
That was an excellent series- I read all 3 over vacation.
I think the writing improves a bit after the first book. Either that, or by that point I had the tinfoil jammed over my ears so tightly it didn't matter.:laugh:
Either way, the way the events protrayed are such that you can just see them all happening today far to easily.
I could say something else, but as it may be construed the wrong way.... probably not recommended sharing material for folks not on the same page here.
Expect to pay $100-200 for a copy these days.
Glad I still have my copy and in good condition. :D Definitely will check out the others mentioned by Hop and GS.
GermanSynergy
08-26-11, 13:16
Glad I still have my copy and in good condition. :D Definitely will check out the others mentioned by Hop and GS.
Just be aware that Full Black is part of a series of books by Thor, and if you haven't read the previous novels, the story line may not make 100% sense. :big_boss:
Just be aware that Full Black is part of a series of books by Thor, and if you haven't read the previous novels, the story line may not make 100% sense. :big_boss:
Thanks for the heads up!
Just be aware that Full Black is part of a series of books by Thor, and if you haven't read the previous novels, the story line may not make 100% sense.
I did a quick search on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Brad-Thor/e/B001IO9TO0/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1314389388&sr=1-1
Are these 12 all of them? What order do they go in?
They mentioned the first few in order on the page there (The Lions of Lucerne, Path of the Assassin, State of the Union, and Blowback), but after that?
Yes, there is a pdf copy of Unintended Consequences. I have one and it's just under 4MB in size.
GermanSynergy
08-26-11, 19:22
I did a quick search on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Brad-Thor/e/B001IO9TO0/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_1?qid=1314389388&sr=1-1
Are these 12 all of them? What order do they go in?
They mentioned the first few in order on the page there (The Lions of Lucerne, Path of the Assassin, State of the Union, and Blowback), but after that?
The Lions of Lucerne (2002) - ISBN 0-7434-3673-3
Path of the Assassin (2003) - ISBN 0-7434-3675-X
State of the Union (2004) - ISBN 0743436776
Blowback (2005) - ISBN 0-7432-7115-7
Takedown (2006) - ISBN 0-7432-7118-1
The First Commandment (2007) - ISBN 1-4165-4379-1
The Last Patriot (2008) - ISBN 1-4165-4383-X
The Apostle (2009) - ISBN 1-4165-8657-1
Foreign Influence (2010) - ISBN 1-4165-8659-8
The Athena Project (2010) - ISBN 1-4391-9295-2
Full Black (2011)
The Lions of Lucerne (2002) - ISBN 0-7434-3673-3
Path of the Assassin (2003) - ISBN 0-7434-3675-X
State of the Union (2004) - ISBN 0743436776
Blowback (2005) - ISBN 0-7432-7115-7
Takedown (2006) - ISBN 0-7432-7118-1
The First Commandment (2007) - ISBN 1-4165-4379-1
The Last Patriot (2008) - ISBN 1-4165-4383-X
The Apostle (2009) - ISBN 1-4165-8657-1
Foreign Influence (2010) - ISBN 1-4165-8659-8
The Athena Project (2010) - ISBN 1-4391-9295-2
Full Black (2011)
Thanks!
Btw- Iraqgunz- is there a place to go to get that PDF?
Btw- Iraqgunz- is there a place to go to get that PDF?
Here ya go. http://www.shtfinfo.com/shtffiles/books_and_reading/Unintended_Consequences.pdf
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-26-11, 22:04
Here ya go. http://www.shtfinfo.com/shtffiles/books_and_reading/Unintended_Consequences.pdf
I'm computer illiterate. Is there anyway to download that? Im on a macbook pro if that helps,
I'm computer illiterate. Is there anyway to download that? Im on a macbook pro if that helps,
Not sure about the Mac and PDF. We own iPhones and iPad but that's my limit on Apple stuff. I just saved a copy and will email it to you if you PM me your address.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-27-11, 19:52
Not sure about the Mac and PDF. We own iPhones and iPad but that's my limit on Apple stuff. I just saved a copy and will email it to you if you PM me your address.
I appreciate it brother, but a friend from Calguns sent me a pdf and a Kindle friendly version. I also just purchased the rest of the Matthew Bracken books, so I should be busy readin on ship.
It occurred to me a couple days ago, LSHD is on float and when I read Unintended Consequences was when I was on float in 03, on the Iwo.
The Lions of Lucerne (2002) - ISBN 0-7434-3673-3
Path of the Assassin (2003) - ISBN 0-7434-3675-X
State of the Union (2004) - ISBN 0743436776
Blowback (2005) - ISBN 0-7432-7115-7
Takedown (2006) - ISBN 0-7432-7118-1
The First Commandment (2007) - ISBN 1-4165-4379-1
The Last Patriot (2008) - ISBN 1-4165-4383-X
The Apostle (2009) - ISBN 1-4165-8657-1
Foreign Influence (2010) - ISBN 1-4165-8659-8
The Athena Project (2010) - ISBN 1-4391-9295-2
Full Black (2011)
I had an alarm set on my phone to get Full Black when it came out. His stuff is that good, and it makes me more paranoid. Which I like. I always wonder how some of his books haven't gotten movie deals yet.
That is a lot of books he has authored. Would you recommend reading them in order or is there a good jumping in point?
I almost bought his latest book a couple of weeks ago at the airport but went with a Vietnam novel "Matterhorn" since it was about the same time and area as my brother fought (USMC, Mutters Ridge 1969).
LegalAlien
09-01-11, 10:40
That is a lot of books he has authored. Would you recommend reading them in order or is there a good jumping in point?
I almost bought his latest book a couple of weeks ago at the airport but went with a Vietnam novel "Matterhorn" since it was about the same time and area as my brother fought (USMC, Mutters Ridge 1969).
I read The Lions of Lucerne quite a few years ago, enjoyed it, but then sort of forgot about Brad Thorn's books, until I read a review of Full Black recently.
I was contemplating doing a sequential catch-up through all his other books and get to Full Black later on, but my curiosity got the better of me and I jumped in and got the latest one on Kindle and read it on our trip to Scotland a few weeks ago.
In my opinion, each book stand on it's own, but there is a certain level of historic continuity of the main character's life that forms a thread throughout the series. Not enough to be distracting though.
In retrospect, I don't think I lost anything of relevance in jumping ahead and reading Full Black 'out of sequence'.
I am not a book critic, but I did sleep at the Holiday Inn Express recently :jester:
I haven't read it yet but Amazon's offering Enemies Foreign And Domestic for FREE from Amazon for a limited time. Looks pretty interesting. http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B004JF4L98/
LowSpeed_HighDrag
03-03-12, 12:26
I haven't read it yet but Amazon's offering Enemies Foreign And Domestic for FREE from Amazon for a limited time. Looks pretty interesting. http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Trilogy-ebook/dp/B004JF4L98/
Just to caveat off of your post, I think everyone would benefit from reading Matt's latest essay and downloading his free book:
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/efadGG.htm
I'm computer illiterate. Is there anyway to download that? Im on a macbook pro if that helps,
Not a macbook user, but usually in any browser (you use Safari, right?), there should be a menu in the browser where you can click something like like a "File/Save as" and save the PDF file that you've browsed to, down to your local machine.
Just to caveat off of your post, I think everyone would benefit from reading Matt's latest essay and downloading his free book:
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/efadGG.htm
The pic of the dude at the bottom looks a lot like he of the famous beard and Magpul (formerly)... Who knew Costa had a pseudonym and was writing now... :) (ETA: more pics for comparison purposes: http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/author.htm )
I'll have to read this.
From Amazon, you can get the Kindle edition at no charge and there are Kindle reader apps for most computers, as well as iOS and Android I believe, if you don't have a real Kindle.
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I'm computer illiterate. Is there anyway to download that? Im on a macbook pro if that helps,
Just for posterity's sake, on a Mac, right click (ctrl-click) on the LINK (before you actually go there) and a contextual menu will pop up and one of the options is to save the target as a file. This will download whatever is being linked to to your computer.
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Rmplstlskn
03-03-12, 18:34
Just downloaded the free Kindle-version of EF&D... Thanks Chadbag!
Rmpl
Just downloaded the free Kindle-version of EF&D... Thanks Chadbag!
Rmpl
You're welcome, but I did not post the free Kindle link. That was Irish
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The Lions of Lucerne (2002) - ISBN 0-7434-3673-3
Path of the Assassin (2003) - ISBN 0-7434-3675-X
State of the Union (2004) - ISBN 0743436776
Blowback (2005) - ISBN 0-7432-7115-7
Takedown (2006) - ISBN 0-7432-7118-1
The First Commandment (2007) - ISBN 1-4165-4379-1
The Last Patriot (2008) - ISBN 1-4165-4383-X
The Apostle (2009) - ISBN 1-4165-8657-1
Foreign Influence (2010) - ISBN 1-4165-8659-8
The Athena Project (2010) - ISBN 1-4391-9295-2
Full Black (2011)
I bought about half the Thor books from a used book place online after hearing about him on the radio (was like almost all of them when I did it about 4 or 5 years ago) but after reading the first 2 or 3, I stopped.
They are just too contrived and "forced", if that makes sense. Plus, he writes about things he has no idea on (like the Mormons in his first book, "Lions of Lucerne"). No where near as engaging as Clancy (whatever you think of him, he rights a good story, though some of his later stuff suffers from the same "contrived" problems)
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I bought about half the Thor books from a used book place online after hearing about him on the radio (was like almost all of them when I did it about 4 or 5 years ago) but after reading the first 2 or 3, I stopped.
They are just too contrived and "forced", if that makes sense. Plus, he writes about things he has no idea on (like the Mormons in his first book, "Lions of Lucerne"). No where near as engaging as Clancy (whatever you think of him, he rights a good story, though some of his later stuff suffers from the same "contrived" problems)
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Yeah, I'm not sure if that's quite it, but something about those books just isn't quite right- maybe they're just to easily finished. He spins out this whole big plot, and then wraps it up in like one or two chapters right at the end of the book. Feels kind of like the current H5-0 series were all they do is incessantly clear empty houses....
Or something like that.
From my sample of two- Usually what I do with a new author who has multiple books, is read the first book they wrote, then if I like it, work down the order. If not, read the newest book they wrote as somtimes they improve along the way.
I'm honestly not sold. His newest one (FB) had an interesting storyline, but I felt like I had already heard it a few times already- or at least wasn't the "shock and awe" that came across in some others.
But then, I'm a randomly picky bookworm....:D
Also not quite sure I'm totally sold on Unintended Consequences either. Interesting, but.... imho a little weird in some places.
Just to caveat off of your post, I think everyone would benefit from reading Matt's latest essay and downloading his free book:
http://www.enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/efadGG.htm
What free book? Just E:F&D?
I didn't see any others there, and I get a little rabid when people mention free books....:p
On another note- anyone read his new one yet- Castigo Cay?
It was pretty decent. As mentioned before, not quite the "shock and awe" of the last three, but still interesting enough for me burn through it twice.
(Albeit, if you think two times is a lot you should hear how many times I've run through some other books..... I'm a voracious re-reader)
What free book? Just E:F&D?
I didn't see any others there, and I get a little rabid when people mention free books....:p
Find the amazon link in this thread. That is the free book.
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Pretty cool.
I spent all evening last night and this morning reading EF&D cover to cover.
I liked that whole sail boat motif, it is actually making me want to learn about those boats.
Also, did anyone catch the "fat antigun filmmaker assassinated" reference in the later part of the novel?
LowSpeed_HighDrag
03-04-12, 04:08
Pretty cool.
I spent all evening last night and this morning reading EF&D cover to cover.
I liked that whole sail boat motif, it is actually making me want to learn about those boats.
Also, did anyone catch the "fat antigun filmmaker assassinated" reference in the later part of the novel?
If that tickled your fancy, wait til you see what happens to a certain liberal billionaire currency-speculator in the second book....
Thanks for this. I managed to download it from amazon and can read it on my computer, looking forward to it.
If that tickled your fancy, wait til you see what happens to a certain liberal billionaire currency-speculator in the second book....
Oh, well there is another reason to read the 2nd one.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
01-13-13, 16:33
With the fiction of these books turning into reality (FIST teams are real VIPR teams, etc), I figured I would dig this back up. They may not be the most well written books out there, but they are starting to feel like I am looking through a crystal ball and seeing the next 10-20 years of the US.
Suwannee Tim
01-13-13, 20:26
I don't need to read novels to raise my paranoia level. Reading the news raised my paranoia level enough as it is. Is paranoia a mental illness? Have I just confessed to being mentally ill and possibly providing evidence which can be used to render my RKBA void? There goes my paranoia level, up another notch.
Full Black is excellent. The main villain is creepy. Not because of his character in the book but how it reminds me of a certain George Soros.
-Jax
Moose-Knuckle
01-14-13, 04:11
With the fiction of these books turning into reality (FIST teams are real VIPR teams, etc), I figured I would dig this back up. They may not be the most well written books out there, but they are starting to feel like I am looking through a crystal ball and seeing the next 10-20 years of the US.
Bracken: Stick To Your Guns — No Matter What!
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/bracken-stick-to-your-guns-no-matter-what/
Bracken: When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/
You should throw in Unintended Consequences for good measure to that list. ;)
Unintended Consequences should be required reading for freedom-loving gun folk. I've probably read it 4 times now.
ffhounddog
01-14-13, 08:16
Unintended Consequences should be required reading for freedom-loving gun folk. I've probably read it 4 times now.
Most of the people who should read that book only listen to audio books. Is there one for Unintended Consequences?
VooDoo6Actual
01-14-13, 09:25
Bracken: Stick To Your Guns — No Matter What!
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/bracken-stick-to-your-guns-no-matter-what/
Bracken: When The Music Stops – How America’s Cities May Explode In Violence
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/bracken-when-the-music-stops-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/
All good reads MK.
Here's a few along the same train of thought:
Dangerous Old men
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/dangerous_old_men.html
A Time to Kill
http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/a-time-to-kill/
another Audio that has some good points:
http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-i-can-barely-contain-my-fury-at-what-is-going-on-in-this-country/
Dear Mr. Security Agent by Matt Bracken
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/
Napoliatano weighs in:
http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=my-latest-column-guns-and-freedom
TL Davis in Exile:
http://tlinexile.blogspot.com/2013/01/deadly-quiet-conversations.html
Moose-Knuckle
01-15-13, 03:56
All good reads MK.
Here's a few along the same train of thought:
Dangerous Old men
http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/01/dangerous_old_men.html
A Time to Kill
http://ncrenegade.com/editorial/a-time-to-kill/
another Audio that has some good points:
http://www.therightscoop.com/mark-levin-i-can-barely-contain-my-fury-at-what-is-going-on-in-this-country/
Dear Mr. Security Agent by Matt Bracken
http://westernrifleshooters.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/bracken-dear-mr-security-agent/
Napoliatano weighs in:
http://www.judgenap.com/index.php?post=my-latest-column-guns-and-freedom
TL Davis in Exile:
http://tlinexile.blogspot.com/2013/01/deadly-quiet-conversations.html
Once again thanks for the reads. Bracken must had his Magic 8 Ball out when he wrote his trilogy.
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