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I am trying to figure out what rail Barry Dueck is using in this photo. It looks like a monolithic upper by LMT but I can't find any information on one that has removable rail sections. I really like how the rail sections are removable.
http://3gunnation.com/assets/shooter/large/BarryDueck_header.jpg
http://3gunnation.com/shooters/shtr_barry_dueck
LowSpeed_HighDrag
08-28-11, 19:06
Looks alot like a shaved down or one-off LMT MRP? Interesting...
Dos Cylindros
08-28-11, 19:36
Looks like the rail from the Larue PredetAR to me, but I can't tell for sure.
ETA: I just looked at a photo of a PredetAR rail and the one you have pictured does not appear to be it. Now I am wondering.
Definitely the MRP bbl retention setup.
Probably a T&E unit from LMT.
With the newest craze being scalable railed forearms (OBR, PredatAR, URXIII, Samson, Troy Extreme, etc...) it would make sense that LMT wants to cut weight off their MRP, which if I remember correctly can be on the heavy side due to the bbl retention.
Maybe it's me, but it looks more like a URX III than anything else...
ETA: After skimming the linked page, I'm going to revise my guess, and say that it's probably like TCBA Joe said, and a prototype/T&E LW MRP. I'd be very interested in such a setup as well...depending on weight.
I have a URXIII. That is not it. I thought the same until I noticed the LMT like hardware near the receiver.
http://i1014.photobucket.com/albums/af269/CoryCop25/ARs/P1000965.jpg
I clicked into that link from the OP and then went into photos. One of the pictures on the bottom role clearly has the MRP bolt but the rail is nothing like the one my brother has.
Would be very interested to know what it actually is.
Mr. Goodtimes
08-28-11, 22:36
That looks very MRP like. LMT is awesome sauce. I'm going to have to own one of their rifles one day.
That looks very MRP like. LMT is awesome sauce. I'm going to have to own one of their rifles one day.
Any hesitancy I have about picking up a MRP would be gone if they brought that to market.
Its a regular MRP with the actual rail sections shaved down. I have debated about doing this to my MWS and also recontouring the CL barrel.
justin_247
08-29-11, 05:50
Any hesitancy I have about picking up a MRP would be gone if they brought that to market.
+1
I would love to have one of these!
Littlelebowski
08-29-11, 09:01
5.56 PredatAR (http://larueosr.com/ltp556-16.aspx)
scoutfsu99
08-29-11, 09:04
It's definitely an MRP. That looks all sorts of awesome. Considering LMT/KAC's relationship, maybe they're trying a LW configuration similar to the URX 3.
The rails look very similar.
5.56 PredatAR (http://larueosr.com/ltp556-16.aspx)
Definitely not. slots instead of holes across top, no barrel change bolts, no rear sling QD cup, slots between screw holes at 3 o'clock, etc.
scoutfsu99
08-29-11, 09:09
http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii64/scb9900/BarryDueck_header.jpg
Littlelebowski
08-29-11, 09:13
I stand corrected.
5.56 PredatAR (http://larueosr.com/ltp556-16.aspx)
Nope, that aint it.
I am pretty sure it is Wilson Combat's rail: http://shopwilsoncombat.com/TRIM-Tactical-Rail-Interface-Modular-126/productinfo/TR-TRIM-12/
Or the newer MRP.
C4
jonconsiglio
08-29-11, 09:42
Guys, that's definitely an MRP upper. Whether it's shaved down later or a prototype/new model, it's an MRP. Look very close at the rear and the vent holes.
You can even see how the two screws below the holes are not perfectly level, but the one in front is a little higher. The cutout where they are is also a slightly angled oval.
Ok, I sent the pic to LMT. They verified that it is NOT their rail.
So my guess is that it is the WC rail.
C4
Mr. Goodtimes
08-29-11, 10:08
Ok, I sent the pic to LMT. They verified that it is NOT their rail.
So my guess is that it is the WC rail.
C4
Or maybe they just don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet. That's the first I've ever seen of this so obviously LMT has been keeping it quiet. I'm not saying you're wrong Grant, just that I still think it's an MRP, LMT just doesn't want people to know it yet. If that is what we all think it is, that's some of the most winning awesome sauce I've seen in a while. I will have to obtain one... after I build up a Remington 5R.
Leonidas24
08-29-11, 10:19
There's far too many similarities to say that this isn't an MRP upper. It could be a custom piece but I'm doubtful judging by the market trend for "slick" uppers.
Photo courtesy of Rainier Arms:
LMT MRP Rifle Length Upper
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/356/d8e8f8961328235832822f1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/851/d8e8f8961328235832822f1.jpg/)
Photo from OP:
http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9904/barrydueckheader.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/barrydueckheader.jpg/)
I'm glad I'm not the only one that is stumped on this one. Whatever it is I would sure like one.
it doesnt look like the WC rail linked to me.
the 'trim' holes are much closer together on the WC rail and the openings between the rails are single large holes in the above pic vs staggered smaller holes.
Or maybe they just don't want to let the cat out of the bag yet. That's the first I've ever seen of this so obviously LMT has been keeping it quiet. I'm not saying you're wrong Grant, just that I still think it's an MRP, LMT just doesn't want people to know it yet. If that is what we all think it is, that's some of the most winning awesome sauce I've seen in a while. I will have to obtain one... after I build up a Remington 5R.
I didn't send my e-mail in to just a random person at LMT. I was told the truth. ;)
My guess is that, if anything, that rail got machined down by someone OTHER THAN LMT.
C4
I'm glad I'm not the only one that is stumped on this one. Whatever it is I would sure like one.
Well, there is another way to get to the bottom of this. I know Barry and have fired him off a message about it.
C4
My guess is that, if anything, that rail got machined down by someone OTHER THAN LMT.
There is a clue in the other pictures. Note all the silver along the rail sides in the last two pictures.
scoutfsu99
08-29-11, 11:17
Well, whoever worked on that MRP did a fantastic job. I wish LMT would consider a project like that.
justin_247
08-29-11, 11:42
It's two different MRPs with the rails shaved down.
Some pictures show the 5.56 MRP before the rails were shaved, and it looks like what is advertised. Others show the same 5.56 MRP with the rails shaved down and painted.
Another is a 308 MRP... those pictures are the ones where you can see the bare metal.
It states plainly on his profile that the MRP is his platform of choice.
There is a clue in the other pictures. Note all the silver along the rail sides in the last two pictures.
Yep, his .308 has clearly been milled down.
That IS LMT's MRP rail or Monolithic upper w/e you want to call it. LMT is saying its not theirs because its been shaved down by a third party instead of coming straight out LMTs machine shop that way. But its defenetly an MRP, it even says so when you click on his link. The guy just probably took it to a company similar to ADCO and the such and had it shaved down.
Barry has a Machine Shop at his finger tips -- he does not need to outsource the work...
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