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Irish
09-09-11, 20:46
How do you feel about having your money stolen through taxation to feed people at McD's, T-Bell, etc? http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-getting-into-the-food-stamp-act/

Mr. Goodtimes
09-09-11, 20:54
This country is getting more ****ed up by the day. We need to start letting the week and stupid die off like natural selection intended. So first they get fat off my tax dollars, then they use my tax dollars to buy a power chair from the scooter store when their too fat to walk; then they use my tax dollars to have their arteries cleaned out after they got too fat to walk and used my money to buy a god damn power chair from the scooter store.

If you want to eat garbage, get fat and die from a massive heart attack at age 50 that's fine with me, but I, nor the insurance companies should have to foot the bill.

LHS
09-09-11, 22:00
Taco Bell is probably the cheapest form of food known to Western man. To me, that sounds like efficient use of tax dollars. What irks me is when welfare sponges try to trade food stamps for alcohol or smokes.

ucrt
09-09-11, 22:08
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To get welfare you should have to have a drug test and the amount of money you get is inversely proportional to what you weight. The more you weigh, the less you get.

But maybe it's just me...


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BCmJUnKie
09-09-11, 22:11
Not as bad as 2004 when hurricane Charley hit Florida and the FEMA money distributed was used at strip clubs, bars, on Tommy Hilfiger jeans and other BULLSHIT. I didnt evacuate not ONE hurricane in
'04-'05 and I lived ON the beach.

Instead I stayed home and rode them out letting people who actually NEEDED it, My whole block didnt have power for 5 weeks. Some in my area was around 2 months. Those 2 months were really hard on me as far as money went, but I knew other people had it worse.



Give the scumbags any kind of help and they take complete advantage of it. The welfare and food stamps are complete and utter bullshit. I wish someone would step up and actually regulate it.

I started a thread a few months back on Fla being the first state to drug test for welfare, they said only TWO people tested positive for drugs, annother member here said "Now if they would only test them ALL instead of a few "Hand picked".

ucrt
09-09-11, 22:15
Taco Bell is probably the cheapest form of food known to Western man. ...
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My brother won't eat Taco Bell. He was in the drive-thru while they were unloading a truck. He said a box was marked: "Meat - Fit for Human Consumption".

He said if it looks so bad that it has to be specially marked to let people know it is edible, he doesn't want any part of it. He skipped out of line and hasn't been back.

Makes you wonder...
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uwe1
09-09-11, 22:54
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To get welfare you should have to have a drug test and the amount of money you get is inversely proportional to what you weight. The more you weigh, the less you get.

But maybe it's just me...


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Totally makes sense. This should be applied to food stamps. The more you weigh, or worse your BMI, the less you get....so you can lose some damn weight. Some people, should just get no money...probably take them a f*cking year to lose it all.

Honu
09-10-11, 02:59
I say you on welfare ? then you have to get drug tested and also sign a thing you eat healthy and certain amounts are for certain things
you have to get checked out say monthly and tested etc..
if you have land you get seeds and have to grow certain things etc..

also restrictions
X amount for veggies only
X amount for meats
X amounts for breads starches etc..
X amount for other things

if you got kids X amount for certain things kid need and not sugar cereals in those bread starches


as said tied to weight and proper calories for good nutrition all must be documented and diary of consumption matches receipts of products if not you loose the stamps
but that will never happen sadly

Belmont31R
09-10-11, 09:11
I think a lot of states are just giving them ATM cards now so they can get cash out instead of actual stamps.




Really its gotten to the point you can actually make more money by not working. I think something was even posted here a while ago where for a family you would actually net more money by not working for 40-50k a year and going on welfare than you would working for that 40k a year.

GermanSynergy
09-10-11, 10:41
These people vote Democrat.

Irish
09-10-11, 11:02
I think a lot of states are just giving them ATM cards now so they can get cash out instead of actual stamps.

My buddy in CA was telling me there are cases being reported now of being people going to the casino in CA, withdrawing money and then going gambling with their foodstamp money.

You're forced to give up your money so that these bottom feeders can eat fast food, use the system as an ATM and if you don't comply SWAT teams with guns will come to your house and put you in prison. What the **** kind of country do we live in anymore?

SteyrAUG
09-10-11, 12:15
How do you feel about having your money stolen through taxation to feed people at McD's, T-Bell, etc? http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/09/fast-food-chains-getting-into-the-food-stamp-act/

Honestly I'd rather have that than the government getting into the game and opening their own grocery stores and fast food joints and then profiting (again) from their own imposed welfare tax payer theft.

To me I don't see a huge distinction between people who were given my money and them spending it for food at the local grocery store or spending it at the local McDonalds. I am involuntarily robbed in either scenario.

What pisses me off more is when they somehow still have enough "extra money" for beer, cigarettes, tattoos and lottery tickets.

BCmJUnKie
09-10-11, 13:25
What pisses me off more is when they somehow still have enough "extra money" for beer, cigarettes, tattoos and lottery tickets.

The funding for beer smokes and tattoos is child support money from one of the multiple fathers of one of the multiple kids they have lol

SteyrAUG
09-10-11, 13:28
The funding for beer smokes and tattoos is child support money from one of the multiple fathers of one of the multiple kids they have lol


In my experience such men don't pay child support. The money seems to come from welfare checks, which unlike food stamps, are cash to spend as you see fit.

BCmJUnKie
09-10-11, 13:33
You dont hear about it because its called "Wage Garnisment". Its very common in Fla and other southern states. I cannot comment on other states but Im sure its common there as well.

It is automatically withdrawn from a weekly paycheck

Belmont31R
09-10-11, 13:34
In my experience such men don't pay child support. The money seems to come from welfare checks, which unlike food stamps, are cash to spend as you see fit.




Not real well known but there are programs for people to get paid for babysitting. So they have all these kids, and then setup a system of telling the welfare office they babysit so and so's kids. They can get some serious money off this.



Food stamps are going away. They use cards now when can be used like a debit card at the register or at an ATM machine. In TX we have the Lone Star Card.



The Texas Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) system uses the Lone Star Card (a magnetic-stripe plastic debit card) to provide access to SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program) food benefits and TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) benefits. The Lone Star Card is used in the same way any other debit card is used. When you pay for approved food or TANF items, you swipe your Lone Star Card through an electronic device (i.e. a Point of Sale device), enter your unique personal identification number (PIN), and the amount of the purchase is automatically subtracted from your benefit account.

http://www.hhsc.state.tx.us/providers/lonestar/EBT/EBTprogramDATA.html



How do I use my Lone Star Card to take out cash?
You can only get cash if you get TANF benefits. Follow these steps to get cash:

1. Ask the store worker how much cash you can get with
your card at one time. Some stores let you get all your
cash at once. Other stores might let you get only a
certain amount at one time.

NOTE: Some stores might charge a fee for taking out
cash. To find out more about fees stores can charge,
click on one of the following links:


2. Follow directions on the machine. This will include typing
in your PIN. Make sure other people can't see your PIN
when you type it. The directions on the machine also
will ask you how much you want to take out.

NOTE: If you type in the wrong PIN, your Lone Star
Card will not work. If you enter the wrong PIN too many
times on the same day, your account will be put on
hold. This means you can't use your card until you call
1-800-777-7328.

3. If you have enough in your TANF account, the store
worker will give you your money.

http://www.hhsc.state.tx.us/providers/lonestar/EBT/EBThowto.html#Where_can_I_use_my_Lone_Star_Card

jklaughrey
09-10-11, 13:37
Welfare is a vicious circle that never ends. To me it is just one more reason to drown the offspring at birth!

Was that wrong...:p

Irish
09-10-11, 13:43
The money seems to come from welfare checks, which unlike food stamps, are cash to spend as you see fit.

The EBT card is for SNAP (Supplemental Nutrition Assitance Program) or as it's better known, the Food Stamp Program, and can also be used for cash withdrawal transactions if the person is eligible for TAFDC (Transitional Aide to Families with Dependant Children) better known as "welfare".

The more I read about this shit the more frustrated I get... Stealing money from my family that should be buying healthy food for my child and wife so that some lazy fat **** can go eat Big Macs, milkshakes and french fries. My only hope is that it'll kill them off sooner but in actuality more tax dollars will have to be taken from working people to pay for their meds and surgeries in the future.

Irish
09-10-11, 13:44
Welfare is a vicious circle that never ends. To me it is just one more reason to drown the offspring at birth!

Was that wrong...:p

Another reason you'd get my vote. ;)

SteyrAUG
09-10-11, 13:47
You dont hear about it because its called "Wage Garnisment". Its very common in Fla and other southern states. I cannot comment on other states but Im sure its common there as well.

It is automatically withdrawn from a weekly paycheck

The fathers I'm thinking of typically don't have a paycheck to garnish. It's hard to garnish undeclared and/or illegal income.

Irish
09-10-11, 13:47
Not real well known but there are programs for people to get paid for babysitting. So they have all these kids, and then setup a system of telling the welfare office they babysit so and so's kids. They can get some serious money off this.

Girl has baby, says she can't take care of it, grandma is babysitter and collects money for every grandchild she "babysits" so now she lots of babies and they all live for "free". I saw a program on it where 1 lady was making $100k + a year to babysit her grandkids.

In Chicago they have registered sex offenders that they pay to babysit. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/30/sex-offenders-on-illinois_n_942069.html

bp7178
09-10-11, 13:49
Here they are called EBT cards.

You can use it to buy Red Bull from the local gas station.

Or, what happens quite a bit, you sell a card with $100 on it for maybe $20-30 cash and provide the pin number. You then call the police to report a robbery or some other fantasy bullshit, and get another card....

4x4twenty6
09-10-11, 13:52
In Louisiana they can get cash back too. ****ing makes me sick.
They can buy all there junk food and have spending money for their weed and the bar later.

The area I worked was low/ no income welfare shit hole and every night the bars were packed. Mother ****ers don't work! We would find kids in cars parked out front while there shit guardian was inside bouncing there ass looking for another sperm donor.

After a while you start to not give a shit. You can't fix stupid and you can't puttem in jail, they just get back out and make more of them.

I'm a catholic, but since I have been a cop I have become pro choice.
As long as I don't pay for it with my tax dollars then ****em!
I still think it is wrong but I am not going to be the one paying the consequences when we meet our maker.

jklaughrey
09-10-11, 13:54
Another reason you'd get my vote. ;)

Thanks brother! Somehow I fear I will be a one term elected official. But then again pandering to the liberal left isn't my cup of tea. I say love me or hate me...**** it, you aren't my kin, or at least part of my "inner circle of trust".


You Irish of course are part of that circle...especially if you get your ass up here in PNW.

Belmont31R
09-10-11, 14:20
Or, what happens quite a bit, you sell a card with $100 on it for maybe $20-30 cash and provide the pin number. You then call the police to report a robbery or some other fantasy bullshit, and get another card....




Thats why they can just pull cash out of ATM's now.

SteyrAUG
09-10-11, 15:26
Girl has baby, says she can't take care of it, grandma is babysitter and collects money for every grandchild she "babysits" so now she lots of babies and they all live for "free". I saw a program on it where 1 lady was making $100k + a year to babysit her grandkids.



Fer ****s sake. To think of the times I was hungry, needed medical attention or needed a place to stay and didn't get it because I didn't know how to pimp the system properly.

That's ****ing criminal. No one on welfare, regardless of the number of kids should get more than a basic school teacher earns. Kids should also be a cost, not a benefit. If you have 4 more than you should probably have, then it sucks to be you.

Moose-Knuckle
09-11-11, 02:40
Is it wrong?

Well eating fast food, especially in the shear quantities in which the entitlement class consume it IS a slow death. Though I would much prefer they be dispatched via wood chippers.

Wood chippers are like a paper shredder for "people". . .bzzzz!

uwe1
09-11-11, 02:47
Is it wrong?

Well eating fast food, especially in the shear quantities in which the entitlement class consume it IS a slow death. Though I would much prefer they be dispatched via wood chippers.

Wood chippers are like a paper shredder for "people". . .bzzzz!

It's too slow....because we still have to pay to keep them alive after they get diabetes, hypertension, etc.

TehLlama
09-11-11, 07:46
You guys are all stupid. What better reason could we have to necessitate the clearly superiour and benevolent single payer healthcare system than the need to provide healthcare services to these poor people who will have given themselves diabetes. It's only part of the money you're currently being allowed to keep.

Irish
09-11-11, 10:31
You Irish of course are part of that circle...especially if you get your ass up here in PNW.

I keep planting the seeds every day! :)


Well eating fast food, especially in the shear quantities in which the entitlement class consume it IS a slow death. Though I would much prefer they be dispatched via wood chippers.

Wood chippers are like a paper shredder for "people". . .bzzzz!

Maybe you should be jklaughrey's running mate. :D

SteyrAUG
09-11-11, 12:38
Maybe you should be jklaughrey's running mate. :D

In my world violent offenders would fight to the death in an arena for our entertainment and people seeking government benefits would be assigned work like cleaning up the mess when it was all over. I'd have a whole list of jobs "Americans don't want to do" which would be the only way to get government assistance.

Irish
09-11-11, 12:46
In my world violent offenders would fight to the death in an arena for our entertainment and people seeking government benefits would be assigned work like cleaning up the mess when it was all over. I'd have a whole list of jobs "Americans don't want to do" which would be the only way to get government assistance.

The future political cabinet of America is filling :D

jklaughrey
09-11-11, 14:02
In my world violent offenders would fight to the death in an arena for our entertainment and people seeking government benefits would be assigned work like cleaning up the mess when it was all over. I'd have a whole list of jobs "Americans don't want to do" which would be the only way to get government assistance.

While I am not one to give praise to an evil organization the Nazi's had the whole "public works" thing down to a science. "Autobahn" type work projects that put everyone to work is what we need in this country. Couple that with reduced spending for social programs and "boom, shoo, baseball steak",we are in the black...in awhile of course.
Love it or hate it, but slavery gets shit done. Now I don't mean slavery in a sense like Egypt, Rome, or early U.S. But an applied thought that if you don't do what is required, you are not getting any help...PERIOD! I am honestly tired of watching my tax dollars going to waste to support some crack whore with 9 kids, just so she can shoot drugs in her arm and drive around in an Escalade with spinners and wearing some Manolo Blahniks.

Vote for me and Moose and Steyr for office, we guarantee a short term with our ideology.

TehLlama
09-15-11, 05:59
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My brother won't eat Taco Bell. He was in the drive-thru while they were unloading a truck. He said a box was marked: "Meat - Fit for Human Consumption".

He said if it looks so bad that it has to be specially marked to let people know it is edible, he doesn't want any part of it. He skipped out of line and hasn't been back.

Makes you wonder...
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We still get fed stuff in boxes labeled "For Prison or Military consumption only". Thank you kindly, but Taco Hell is a night out on the town for me.

4x4twenty6
09-15-11, 06:14
They should only be allowed to buy certain things if they are getting handouts from us.

Veggies, Whole Grain bread and cereals, vitamins and other healthy food.

All the garbage they eat is sickening. Now they are giving them fast food. A double cheeseburger with fries and a coke is damn near my daily caloric intake.

How come when i worked in the hood there were so many waterbuffalo sized woman walking around. I thought they were poor and needed help!
With there fat bodys comes poor health, and we fund their healthcare too.
If you get a hand out, you eat healthy and stay healthy so we arent paying for your ****ing sloppy ass to be obese. Once you get off the gov't teet you can be as big and disgusting as you wanna be.

I love popeyes and they gave it to us for free if i was in uniform, but damn i would be huge if ate like shit everyday.

hatt
09-15-11, 08:40
It seems every time I go to Sams there are 300 pounders in front of me buying cases of Yoo-hoo, soda, candy, chips, pickled sausage, etc. They always pull out their trusty taypayer provided card. And they'll usually be dressed pretty sharp, with nice looking jewelry and designer bags. I'm going to snap one day and tell someone: "you know they sell fresh meat and potatoes in this mother****er." :shout:

FromMyColdDeadHand
09-15-11, 09:42
Taco Bell can be fairly healthy and edible, unlike the McD 'healthy' food and lawn clippings they call salads.

The 'Fresca' products at TB don't have all the cream and cheese- and the chicken was once part of a bird, while the 'meat' there is a solyent green prototype (but still yummy!).

Went to the mall for the first time in about a decade to see a movie with my 7 year old son. Can we tax tattoos? There has to be more ink used in tattoos than in newspapers. At least I can loose weight, those dumbasses are stuck with those tattoos for life.

I still want to know how mexicans keep their tshirts so white and crisp- are they made out of woven Tide sticks?

What cheeses me off the worst, is that the politicians use my money to bribe people with.

rojocorsa
09-16-11, 22:06
This is a rhetorical statement, but still:


Have the no ****ing shame? How does one pride themselves on scamming the system for a living. Holy shit!



Every time I see a "We gladly accept" EBT sign, it always pisses me off.

Some of these people have no decency, god damn.

And another way to look at this specific topic, you can say, is that this deal equates to de-facto corporate welfare in some ways. Of course the firm will be happy to get some government cheese too! Why wouldn't they?



It is truly revolting.

Belmont31R
09-16-11, 22:20
While I am not one to give praise to an evil organization the Nazi's had the whole "public works" thing down to a science. "Autobahn" type work projects that put everyone to work is what we need in this country. Couple that with reduced spending for social programs and "boom, shoo, baseball steak",we are in the black...in awhile of course.
Love it or hate it, but slavery gets shit done. Now I don't mean slavery in a sense like Egypt, Rome, or early U.S. But an applied thought that if you don't do what is required, you are not getting any help...PERIOD! I am honestly tired of watching my tax dollars going to waste to support some crack whore with 9 kids, just so she can shoot drugs in her arm and drive around in an Escalade with spinners and wearing some Manolo Blahniks.

Vote for me and Moose and Steyr for office, we guarantee a short term with our ideology.




There are still sections of the autobahn that are original. While it was built it with Jewish slave labor I can appreciate how magnificent of a road it is to drive on. Interestingly enough when the interstate system was being proposed/built here we used the same "pitch" of high speed military transport as the reason why we needed it.


I only agree with public support of those who cannot provide for themselves with strict guidelines on what that means. Obese is not a disability for instance. And only those who have paid a certain amount of taxes in or their immediate family. Also means test it so if their immediate family can take care of them then no public assistance. My wife is in home health nursing, and has patients on public insurance who live in million dollar homes with 3 new Mercedes parked out front with a full time live in care taker.

bp7178
09-16-11, 23:21
While it was built it with Jewish slave labor...

You know, I've watched an amazing amount of videos regarding Germany and WWII around that era, read many books, and have never heard about the autobahn being built with Jewish slave labor.

The Autobahn, while a work project of the goverment of the time, came long before the camps and yellow stars sewn onto peoples clothes. As a matter of fact, it was one of numerous public works projects at the time, not too different from Roosevelts 'New Deal' projects here.

There were plenty of out of work people in Germany at the time, I don't think one would have to resort to slave labor....

But back to the topic...

This forum sees plenty of threads where civil liberties are being brought into question, directly stated, the infringement of.

I see no bigger threat to a persons civil liberties than the goverment making you a slave for a plastic card and a shitty apartment. But it's tolerated at a level which should be scary to any constitution reading gun owner.

Talk about holding people down....

Belmont31R
09-16-11, 23:37
You know, I've watched an amazing amount of videos regarding Germany and WWII around that era, read many books, and have never heard about the autobahn being built with Jewish slave labor.

The Autobahn, while a work project of the goverment of the time, came long before the camps and yellow stars sewn onto peoples clothes. As a matter of fact, it was one of numerous public works projects at the time, not too different from Roosevelts 'New Deal' projects here.

There were plenty of out of work people in Germany at the time, I don't think one would have to resort to slave labor....

But back to the topic...

This forum sees plenty of threads where civil liberties are being brought into question, directly stated, the infringement of.

I see no bigger threat to a persons civil liberties than the goverment making you a slave for a plastic card and a shitty apartment. But it's tolerated at a level which should be scary to any constitution reading gun owner.

Talk about holding people down....




Ive seen old videos with slaves building it but maybe they built different sections at different times.


But either way theres no denying they made extensive use of slave labor in all manner of industry.

Moose-Knuckle
09-17-11, 02:10
I see no bigger threat to a persons civil liberties than the goverment making you a slave for a plastic card and a shitty apartment. But it's tolerated at a level which should be scary to any constitution reading gun owner.

Talk about holding people down....

The left have mastered the art of holding people down for decades now, the Cloward–Piven strategy is just one of many social engineering programs they have utilized.

However people need to rise above and see things with their OWN eyes. Hence the term, "never left the plantation".

The way I see it, under our current taxation and fiat currency system we are ALL slaves.