BrigandTwoFour
09-19-11, 12:45
Hey guys, this may be close to the custom build arena, but I figure you guys have quite a bit more experience in this topic.
Yes, this will be a 16" vs 18" topic. But I don't care one bit about eh SPR vs RECCE concept. As far as I'm concerned, the two concepts have proven more than accurate enough for me and my purposes.
That said, here's the situation. I already have two ARs, the first one was built around a Centurion CHF 16" light weight and TR24G. I love that gun, and it shoots fantastically. The second build (half-jokingly referred to as my fiancee's gun) is a BCM 16" pencil KISS gun with an XPS.
I have the hankering for a third AR. I have been doing quite a bit of outlaw 2 and 3 gun. While my centurion build has been great, I didn't really build it for precision. I think of it more as a very accurate work horse rifle.
So to be clear, this is NOT a home defense, "SHTF," or something I need to bet my life on. It will pretty much be used for gaming, marksmanship practice, and potentially popping prairie dogs. It will not be getting humped around the mountains or abused. But it will have to be more mobile than a bench rest gun.
That said, here are my needs:
- Accuracy
- Capability to reach out to at least 500 yards, maybe a bit more (our range potentially goes up to 1000, but I have my JAE-100 stocked M1A for that)
- Mobility for a variety of courses of fire
- Ability to use a variety of ammo, to include some of the lighter varmint rounds
I know I'm already heading into stainless territory. I assume that my desire to use the lighter varmint rounds eliminates a 1/7 twist barrel, so out goes the Centurion MK12 or Recon barrels. I'm more than likely going to go with BCM SS410. The real question is what length.
And that's where I come to you guys. I know there is little difference in accuracy between the 16 or the 18, and really minimal velocity difference. This really comes down to a mid or rifle gas system. Do any of you guys who own and run both notice a significant enough difference between them? I know the 18" rifle is supposed to be very soft shooting, but is it really worth the potential penalty in weight and mobility?
Also, on the subject of optics. My initial idea was to run an ACOG, either TA11 or TA31. Do you think a more serious rifle scope would be more beneficial? I know the ACOGS are not really considered precision optics.
The flip side to all of this, of course, is to just skip the SS gun all together and buy another optic for my Centurion.
Thanks for the help, guys!
Yes, this will be a 16" vs 18" topic. But I don't care one bit about eh SPR vs RECCE concept. As far as I'm concerned, the two concepts have proven more than accurate enough for me and my purposes.
That said, here's the situation. I already have two ARs, the first one was built around a Centurion CHF 16" light weight and TR24G. I love that gun, and it shoots fantastically. The second build (half-jokingly referred to as my fiancee's gun) is a BCM 16" pencil KISS gun with an XPS.
I have the hankering for a third AR. I have been doing quite a bit of outlaw 2 and 3 gun. While my centurion build has been great, I didn't really build it for precision. I think of it more as a very accurate work horse rifle.
So to be clear, this is NOT a home defense, "SHTF," or something I need to bet my life on. It will pretty much be used for gaming, marksmanship practice, and potentially popping prairie dogs. It will not be getting humped around the mountains or abused. But it will have to be more mobile than a bench rest gun.
That said, here are my needs:
- Accuracy
- Capability to reach out to at least 500 yards, maybe a bit more (our range potentially goes up to 1000, but I have my JAE-100 stocked M1A for that)
- Mobility for a variety of courses of fire
- Ability to use a variety of ammo, to include some of the lighter varmint rounds
I know I'm already heading into stainless territory. I assume that my desire to use the lighter varmint rounds eliminates a 1/7 twist barrel, so out goes the Centurion MK12 or Recon barrels. I'm more than likely going to go with BCM SS410. The real question is what length.
And that's where I come to you guys. I know there is little difference in accuracy between the 16 or the 18, and really minimal velocity difference. This really comes down to a mid or rifle gas system. Do any of you guys who own and run both notice a significant enough difference between them? I know the 18" rifle is supposed to be very soft shooting, but is it really worth the potential penalty in weight and mobility?
Also, on the subject of optics. My initial idea was to run an ACOG, either TA11 or TA31. Do you think a more serious rifle scope would be more beneficial? I know the ACOGS are not really considered precision optics.
The flip side to all of this, of course, is to just skip the SS gun all together and buy another optic for my Centurion.
Thanks for the help, guys!