MPI BCGs not staked properly

[Nightgunner]

Well I must change this statement. The BCG in question is of unknown origin. I will be contacting the distributor and finding out who made them. I appreciate the corrections.

On this note, can anyone recommend a reputable shop that can re-stake these properly?

[Leonidas24]

I believe this is applicable to your usage of the acronym "MPI"

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5149/whatyouthinki.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/whatyouthinki.jpg/)

[Nightgunner]

After doing a little more looking, I believe you are correct. I saw the MPI stamping on the BCG and was erroneous in my belief that that was the manufacturers name. It would appear I stand very corrected.

[warpigM-4]

MPI =Magnetic Particle Inspected

[Leonidas24]

No worries if the bolt is stamped MPI it should be good to go; however, I did say should, not is. Obviously if the carrier key is poorly staked I'd be leery. Care to pass on who you bought it from?

[Belmont31R]

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm

[Nightgunner]

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm

That is what led me to believe what I stated in my original post prior to READing everything

[Nightgunner]

No worries if the bolt is stamped MPI it should be good to go; however, I did say should, not is. Obviously if the carrier key is poorly staked I'd be leery. Care to pass on who you bought it from?

http://akpartskits.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=6_13&products_id=168

On their behalf, I will state that prior customer service in correcting problems was excellent! I have not contacted them in regards to this as it is a very recent discovery.

[Belmont31R]

That is what led me to believe what I stated in my original post prior to READing everything




No Im suggesting you ditch that POS you have for one that is good.

[Nightgunner]

No Im suggesting you ditch that POS you have for one that is good.

I am 2 paychecks away from doing that.

[Leonidas24]

What made you think that what you were buying was a BCM product?

[Nightgunner]

I didn't pay enough attention and believed that they used the same supplier. My previous build prior to these 2 was nearly entirely from BCM with the exception of the Doublestar Lower and Colt A1 upper.

Tried to save a buck, and well it is a good lesson in "Get what you pay for".

[Belmont31R]

I am 2 paychecks away from doing that.





1 paycheck with Ramen noodles.



Just kidding but only half way. Keep this as a lesson to only buy from certain places. Lots of cretins out there waiting for a sucker to buy a BCG with shit manufacturing for the same cost as a full spec'd BCG such as BCM offers.

[Nightgunner]

Funny, I have a BCM Gunfighter sticker on my laptop as a reminder of who I like doing business with. Guess I need to look at that side from time to time.

[jklaughrey]

Akpartkits is actually Vulcan/Hesse. They just re-branded and are now going by Blackthorne. I wouldn't buy from them if they donated the money to starving children

[northern1]

Those cretins still lurk the earth ?? How are they still in business ?? My first gun ever was an AK74 from Hesse. I was 22 and didn't know a damn thing. They put a '74 parts kit in a '47 reciever. The reciever said 7.62 on the side but was scratched off. Needless to say a '47 extractor doesn't work well with 5.45. Nothing like having you first gun FTE on its first round......and every round after.

Fukin pricks. Rant off. Back on topic of BCG's.

[Magic_Salad0892]

Those cretins still lurk the earth ?? How are they still in business ?? My first gun ever was an AK74 from Hesse. I was 22 and didn't know a damn thing. They put a '74 parts kit in a '47 reciever. The reciever said 7.62 on the side but was scratched off. Needless to say a '47 extractor doesn't work well with 5.45. Nothing like having you first gun FTE on its first round......and every round after.

Fukin pricks. Rant off. Back on topic of BCG's.

Wow. That must have been like sticking your hand down your girlfriend's pants for the first time, and finding out she has a dick.

[northern1]

At 22 years old when you think all AK's are the same and that they are incapable of jamming......LMFAO.....yea pretty much

[duece71]

Wow. That must have been like sticking your hand down your girlfriend's pants for the first time, and finding out she has a dick.

Ugh, talk about having a bad day.......

[Ned Christiansen]

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=59674

[Eurodriver]

Wow. That must have been like sticking your hand down your girlfriend's pants for the first time, and finding out she has a dick.


Ugh, talk about having a bad day.......


So umm, You guys speaking from experience? ;)

[Nightgunner]

So umm, You guys speaking from experience? ;)

I can fix the problem I had, can't undo that. :D

[munch520]

OP,

Are they letting you return it for a full refund?


There's no cute little smiley to portray how hard I was just laughing.

Wow. That must have been like sticking your hand down your girlfriend's pants for the first time, and finding out she has a dick.

[Nightgunner]

Edit: Just emailed them, not expecting much in the way of a reply, but we will see.

[Nightgunner]

Just got this from them:


Dear customer,
We apologize for any issues you may have or are experiencing with our product. As per our Return/ Repair Policy found in your Terms and Conditions Agreement, we do not accept partial returns. Additionally, your account is WAY out of warranty and we cannot issue any Return Authorization for those parts. If you would like to re-stake the gas key screws, it would take LESS than a minute of time, using a punch and a hammer (we have provided a schematic below). If you have any further questions or concerns, please contact us. Also, we are not, nor do we sell, Hesse parts or Vulcan parts despite whatever web forum you read states.

Thank you,

Paul
Manager
Blackthorne Products, LLC


Not surprised at all, will fix these BCGs and when the $$$ works out replace them and sell these off as spares.

[Brian1/75]

In all seriousness, I'm not sure what else is wrong with what you bought, but if it just needs staking/restaking, it'd be an easy learning experience.

[Nightgunner]

I have had no problems with the other parts I ordered (Hand guards, Pistol Grips, and flash hiders). Probably because they are no brainers. I will be teaching myself how to do this today or tomorrow.

[munch520]

Other than a semi auto carrier (not the end of the world), looks like everything is OK, just stake it and use it. Then down the road, get a BCM compelte BCG from Grant :cool:


In all seriousness, I'm not sure what else is wrong with what you bought, but if it just needs staking/restaking, it'd be an easy learning experience.

[wahoo95]

I mean...why would anyone even order from that site??? You can tell from the picture that the BCG is a piece of crap. The staking sucks and the screws aren't even the same!

Note to self, NEVER buy from a web vendor with a picture of some guy in a t-shirt wearing a gas mask holding a phucking Daisy BB GUN!!!!

[Iraqgunz]

I saw that as well. It screams mediocre, but people who refuse to educate themselves will continue to buy their shit and thereby keep them in business.


I mean...why would anyone even order from that site??? You can tell from the picture that the BCG is a piece of crap. The staking sucks and the screws aren't even the same!

Note to self, NEVER buy from a web vendor with a picture of some guy in a t-shirt wearing a gas mask holding a phucking Daisy BB GUN!!!!

[Nightgunner]

Calling it a lesson learned and leaving it at that.

[Magic_Salad0892]

So umm, You guys speaking from experience? ;)

It wasn't my girlfriend, and I didn't sleep with him.

But I know the dude who almost did. :D

[Nightgunner]

Pardon me while I :bad:

[Nightgunner]

Well with the decision made to save up the $$$ and buy 2 new BCGs, what are the best I can get with $$$ being no hindrance(Will be saving up however much I need)?

[nolt]

Well with the decision made to save up the $$$ and buy 2 new BCGs, what are the best I can get with $$$ being no hindrance(Will be saving up however much I need)?

a great suggestion was on page 1:



http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm

[Nightgunner]

Used it in my previous build and regret not getting it again. Oh well, we live and learn.

[NoveskeFan]

If you can find them in stock, BCM is about the best bang for your buck. Daniel Defense, Colt, LMT are good as well. BCM's run about $140 and they are IN STOCK!:eek:
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-Bolt-Carrier-Group-MPI-Auto-M16-p/bcm%20bolt%20carrier%20group%20auto%20mp.htm

[munch520]

Here too, if BCM shows OOS.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=BCG-BCM

[Nightgunner]

Could always put my 1/2 stack up for sale to finance these and a couple other upgrades...

[Leonidas24]

Rainier Arms has LMT FA BCG's for $130.00.

[Nightgunner]

1/2 Stack up for sale on another board to finance the BCG replacement as well as some accessories for the twins. If it doesn't sell there, I will post it here once I have a high enough post count for the EE.

[Brian1/75]

Trading music for guns? Hum not sure if I could go for that unless I wasn't using it very often.

[Nightgunner]

I play in a church Praise Band every weekend. The 1/2 stack is my home practice amp. We are re-arranging the set-up at church so my regular performance amp will be coming home.