Elizabeth Warren

[parishioner]

So has anyone heard of her? She is approaching internet stardom as of late and is currently the most searched person on google. All 4 of my lib friends on facebook keep plastering her recent quote all over the place like she is the next savior in politics.


There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there? Good for you.

But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

She is running for senate but they all wish she was running for the presidency. People comment saying Libertarians just can't accept this basic fact referring to the social contract. I'm not exactly sure why they are getting all tingly in their pants other than that its somewhat of a swipe at capitalism I guess while promoting socialism to a degree. A degree which I'm sure is more than what is compatible with liberty.

[Sensei]

The biggest problem with that quote is the fact that most of her liberal constituents contribute significantly less (if at all) than most conservatives to the tax base that affords those amenities. Thus, her collective "we" did far less work than the collective "me" to fulfilling that social contract.

[Honu]

I would have said YES YOU B*#$# we all paid for it with our GAS taxes and such for the roads so we all paid for it

yet on business I was smart enough to make more money than others even though some of us like you cant make your own money you need to STEAL IT

so I guess since we all pay you since you are paid by taxes you should shut up and listen to us and not give us YOUR BS but only be our voices like you were supposed to !!

[Heavy Metal]

“You built a factory out there? Good for you,” “Built a factory” is a summary for a lot of work. Put up equity, designed a business, took risk to buy land, get permits, pay property taxes and use taxes and permit fees. Then, bought a bunch of equipment and had it installed …and paid sales taxes. Hired some employees and paid them a bunch of money and paid payroll taxes on top of that. Bought a bunch of raw materials from companies that paid a bunch of salaries and a bunch of taxes. Building a factory is a huge private investment that pays the public a lot of taxes for the right to be built.

“But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for.” Between fuel taxes, license fees, tolls and various taxes on transportation related activities, the roads budget is smaller than the total tax take.

you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; No, you did not educate them. You babysat them for 12 years. Then I hired them, taught them how to be responsible and show up for work, taught them how to communicate in clear sentences, taught them that there are rights and wrongs and (unlike with your schools) wrongs have consequences in the workplace. Then paid for extended education for my employees so they could continue to improve themselves and better add value to what we do around here.

“You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for.” Funny, my factory has 24/7 security guards because the last time it was broken into, the police did not even bother to take a report, they just said “call your insurance company”. As for fire? The closest fire department is 10 miles away. My insurance company requires that I have a full wet sprinkler system to qualify for insurance because there is no local fire protection.

“You didn’t have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.” Well, that is not exactly true. When the AFL-CIO tried to unionize my workforce, they staged three days of noisy protests outside my factory. The police forces just stood around and watched as the protesters intimidated my workers, vandalized their cars and destroyed my property.

You say “we” like the government and society are the same. They aren’t. My company and my community and you politicians are not “we”.

This is a good response I found.

[The_War_Wagon]

She probably has to phone an area code 202 number every morning, to make sure she doesn't confuse her head with her ass before leaving for work... :rolleyes:

[theblackknight]

Quote:
There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there? Good for you.

But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

This bitch is stupid.

So roads are only paid for by people who dont create jobs or own businesses? wrong. roads are paid for by everybody. You could start a factory just as the people who do.

I'm pretty sure everyone pays for essential services, soo why is she using "US" like these producers arnt paying in?

You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

Google gibson guitars, and eat those words.

[NoveskeFan]

Sounds like a good way to get votes. This kind of thinking did not build this country, but will certainly destroy it. If everyone gets something for doing nothing, then who's left to do anything?

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

To take the flip side and expand on her 'logic'- without women, their be no rapists.


Failure is a bastard, success has a thousand architects.

[jklaughrey]

What I am wondering is where the Hell her husband is to slap this bitch into some Goddamn common sense. Or is he a new age castrated manboy.

[tb-av]

The light at the end of the tunnel.... if they think she is their new savior what the hell do they say about Obama in private?

She really is an idiot if she said that in basic daily conversation context. Although I don't know what context you could put that in to have it be rational.

[khc3]

Successful entrepeneurs contribute so much more than they take or "use" from "society" it's not even funny to think there are "educated" people who don't get it.

Drive into Orlando some time and think about it.

But they don't get it because they have an agenda, and the weak and envious just lap it up.

We've understood this dynamic since Aristotle.

[Moose-Knuckle]

There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. Nobody. You built a factory out there? Good for you.

But I want to be clear: you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for; you hired workers the rest of us paid to educate; you were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for. You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory, and hire someone to protect against this, because of the work the rest of us did.

Now look, you built a factory and it turned into something terrific, or a great idea? God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward for the next kid who comes along.

Marxism 101.

[sandman99and9]

Successful entrepeneurs contribute so much more than they take or "use" from "society" it's not even funny to think there are "educated" people who don't get it.

Drive into Orlando some time and think about it.

But they don't get it because they have an agenda, and the weak and envious just lap it up.

I have lived in orlando most of my life. If it was not for entrepeneurs this town would just be a cow pasture !!

Disney,Lockheed Martin, and many others have been here for many years and created so many jobs which then created home, retail, and entertainment biz all over the place.

Yeah, I guess they don't contribute anything ??

S.M.

[obucina]

I have lived in orlando most of my life. If it was not for entrepeneurs this town would just be a cow pasture !!

Disney,Lockheed Martin, and many others have been here for many years and created so many jobs which then created home, retail, and entertainment biz all over the place.

Yeah, I guess they don't contribute anything ??

S.M.

and A Duda & Sons. Aside from the .gov contracts, these companies were successful without a .gov policy, just like oil, rail, and automobiles. I really shouldnt be surprised that these "proletariat advocates" no nothing of monetary policy or industry.

[theblackknight]

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[ForTehNguyen]

shes a complete idiot for the following reasons:

1) the govt is only able to provide those services because there is someone producing to be able to tax.

2) some business getting taxed 40% is getting those services...fine. So by this token if a business paid 0% taxes they would get none of these services. You know what a business can do with that extra 40%, they could have a firetruck on the property full time, they could hire a private army practically for security. So that point is moot that they wouldnt have police/fire protection. If I was a business and had the option to pay 0% taxes to forego these services I would do it in a heartbeat.

3) Marauding bands? Govt is the marauder, taking 40% of your income. This is just like govt stealing your money and then claiming its there to help you. Only govt can protect you from marauding bands?

4) Keep a big hunk of it? What the hell does she mean by this? What is a big hunk, again these socialists will never answer the question of how much a business owner should pay % wise in taxes.

putting the cart before the horse

got this from Peter Schiff's response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSadCyMu_Dk

[GermanSynergy]

Underlying social contract, eh?

What about the people who refuse to work, pay no taxes, but demand and receive gravy train "benefits"? Are they factored in anywhere?

When do they pay their fair share, or get some skin in the game? These folks have to eat their peas too, ya know.

[Bolt_Overide]

sounds like another liberal ****tard who just hasnt been bit in the ass by life enough to realise how much of an idiot she is.

[Suwannee Tim]

She is absolutely right. There is an underlying social contract. We call it The Constitution of the United States of America. Perhaps we need to pay more attention to it.