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C4IGrant
08-17-06, 15:24
I just finished this build for a customer and must say that I like the 12.5 barrel length a lot. The new DD 10.0 lite rail works well with this barrel as well.


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SPECS:

Noveske 12.5 SS Crusader
VLTOR MUR
DD 10.0 Lite Rail
VLTOR gas block
Noveske KX3
KG flat black


http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusader%20DD%2010%20and%20MUR.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusader%20KX3%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010%20rail%20%20top.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20MUR%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/KX3%20close%20up.JPG

Hoplophile
08-17-06, 15:49
How abou that. Here I am doing paperwork to set up a trust and you post a an upper that is almost exactly like the first item I plan to purchase. It's a message from above, I tell ya!

C4IGrant
08-17-06, 15:58
How abou that. Here I am doing paperwork to set up a trust and you post a an upper that is almost exactly like the first item I plan to purchase. It's a message from above, I tell ya!


I do believe it is a sign!


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VA_Dinger
08-17-06, 17:03
Wow, that is one nice upper.

Those new DD rails are sweet.

vinesr6
08-17-06, 20:41
Okay so are you going to have these? I know I've asked before over at 10-8?

Loner
08-17-06, 20:59
I have exactly the same build coming up but with a Larue 9.0 and CMT upper. The MUR sure is growing on me!

C4IGrant
08-18-06, 07:57
Okay so are you going to have these? I know I've asked before over at 10-8?


I do have these in stock, along with the VLTOR MUR, DD and LT rails!



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Neeglik
08-18-06, 12:10
Is that rail the $400-500 offering from DD? How do you compare them to the Larues? I really like that continuous top rail!

C4IGrant
08-18-06, 12:45
Is that rail the $400-500 offering from DD? How do you compare them to the Larues? I really like that continuous top rail!

MAP on that rail is $365. I do offer a package deal on builds. Price on that upper is around $1,144.00.



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Neeglik
08-18-06, 13:52
Grant,
How do you like the DD rails compared to the Larue? Does Larue have any plans to do anything similar with a continuous top rail?

C4IGrant
08-18-06, 14:15
Grant,
How do you like the DD rails compared to the Larue? Does Larue have any plans to do anything similar with a continuous top rail?


Well, both rails are excellent and both are anti-rotational. The DD gives you the continous rail look. LT also does not offer a 10.0 rail at this time. I don't think LT will offer the continous type rail any time soon.


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edwin907
08-19-06, 09:46
Wow, Grant, just wow.

A 12.5 Crusader MUR SBR upper will be my next build.
Now I just have to decide do I get a barrel contoured for the OPS brake and Collar for a 12th Suppressor or just mount a BiLock and go with my Specwar 2?
And what rail?

Decisions, Decisions!

dubb-1
08-19-06, 10:26
OPS!!!

SOPMOOD
11-05-06, 15:37
MAP on that rail is $365. I do offer a package deal on builds. Price on that upper is around $1,144.00.



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What is the total barrel length with the Noveske KX3 soldered? Under 16"?

Hoplophile
11-05-06, 19:36
What is the total barrel length with the Noveske KX3 soldered? Under 16"?
Under 16". Noveske makes the 13.whatever for use with the KX3.

Robb Jensen
11-05-06, 20:06
Under 16". Noveske makes the 13.whatever for use with the KX3.

13.7" Ken.

SOPMOOD
11-05-06, 20:59
MAP on that rail is $365. I do offer a package deal on builds. Price on that upper is around $1,144.00.



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So how much for the 13.7" config.

Voodoochild
11-07-06, 15:29
I just finished this build for a customer and must say that I like the 12.5 barrel length a lot. The new DD 10.0 lite rail works well with this barrel as well.


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SPECS:

Noveske 12.5 SS Crusader
VLTOR MUR
DD 10.0 Lite Rail
VLTOR gas block
Noveske KX3
KG flat black


http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusader%20DD%2010%20and%20MUR.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusader%20KX3%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010%20rail%20%20top.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20DD%2010.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/Crusador%20MUR%20close%20up.JPG

http://www.gandrtactical.com/images/archive/G&R%20Custom%20builds/KX3%20close%20up.JPG


Damn just when i was trying not to spend anymore money you have to post this. Now I am really tempted to purchase taht setup on a Sun Devil Lower. Oh the pains of BRD!!

SOPMOOD
11-08-06, 14:44
Is this the lower in question? (Sun Devil)
http://home.comcast.net/~rainierarms/lowers/sd/1-sd-640.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rainierarms/lowers/sd/2-sd-640.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rainierarms/lowers/sd/3-sd-640.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~rainierarms/lowers/sd/sd-black-lower-640.jpg
It looks sweet, I especially like the stippled mag well.

Voodoochild
11-08-06, 17:46
Yes that is the lower I was talking about.

NickB
11-29-06, 08:28
I've been lusting after a Crusader for a while now... What's been the feedback on the 12.5" vs. the 10.5"? I had the pleasure of playing with a 10.5" a few weeks back, but have yet to get my hands on the 12.5".

C4IGrant
11-29-06, 09:10
I've been lusting after a Crusader for a while now... What's been the feedback on the 12.5" vs. the 10.5"? I had the pleasure of playing with a 10.5" a few weeks back, but have yet to get my hands on the 12.5".


What I have seen with the builds I have done, is that this barrel length is a good idea. It is still compact, but has the better FPS for longer fragmentation.



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NickB
11-29-06, 12:53
What I have seen with the builds I have done, is that this barrel length is a good idea. It is still compact, but has the better FPS for longer fragmentation.

I have the feeling I'm going to eventually skip right past the Crusader and move to something stupidly short, and a twin with a 16" instead...we'll see.

Rated21R
08-20-09, 11:20
Just when I have all but decided to go with a BCM build you go and post pictures and a build like that. How much would a Crusader, MUR, Lite 10.0 and Surefire 556-212A spec'd upper run me? Dang that's nice.

C4IGrant
08-20-09, 16:03
Just when I have all but decided to go with a BCM build you go and post pictures and a build like that. How much would a Crusader, MUR, Lite 10.0 and Surefire 556-212A spec'd upper run me? Dang that's nice.

You are looking at about $983.



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Rated21R
08-21-09, 00:01
You are looking at about $983.



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Oh dang! Well, I will be back shortly from the desert and think this could be my welcome home present to myself. Thanks for the info Grant. :D

Paulinski
08-21-09, 08:38
That is a nice upper Grant. :D

With your help I built this upper. The only difference I went with 11" LaRue and Vltor V1C.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/Dragnaath/DSCN0836.jpg

Cameron
08-21-09, 11:06
Is it just me or does DD change the way they drill their Lite rails all the time?

I have 2 12.0 lite rails that have all four sides drilled, a 10.0 that has the top and sides drilled, and it appears in the pictures that grant posted that his rail has the holes through the top and bottom and the side rails are solid....

Weird.

BTW very nice upper Grant!

Cameron

bkb0000
08-21-09, 11:14
i'm only aware of the one recent change... keep in mind that this thread was revived from 2006.

Cameron
08-21-09, 11:22
keep in mind that this thread was revived from 2006.

Damnit!!! Necro-posting got me again!!! :mad:

Razorhunter
08-22-09, 17:02
Grant,
I noticed in your pics of the Crusader SS bbl, that the Noveske etching/lettering on the bbl still shows through the Gunkote.
I would not think this would have been the case.
That is cool, and almost makes me want to attempt to Gunkote some uppers/rails I have, which I have left "as-is", because I didn't want to lose the nice white laser etched words/logos on them.
Does this mean the white laser etching on something like a KAC URX rail, or something like the white etching on a VLTOR MUR would still show through a Gunkote finish, just as was the case on the bbl you have pic'd?

C4IGrant
08-23-09, 13:46
Grant,
I noticed in your pics of the Crusader SS bbl, that the Noveske etching/lettering on the bbl still shows through the Gunkote.
I would not think this would have been the case.
That is cool, and almost makes me want to attempt to Gunkote some uppers/rails I have, which I have left "as-is", because I didn't want to lose the nice white laser etched words/logos on them.
Does this mean the white laser etching on something like a KAC URX rail, or something like the white etching on a VLTOR MUR would still show through a Gunkote finish, just as was the case on the bbl you have pic'd?


It all depends on how heavily you put the paint on.



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Boss Hogg
08-24-09, 21:44
Absolutely terrific barrel.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc295/B055H0GG/DSCF6840small-1.jpg

docsherm
08-24-09, 21:57
Absolutely terrific barrel.

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc295/B055H0GG/DSCF6840small-1.jpg



Is that a LaRue 9" rail and an AAC M4/SPR? Thanks

Boss Hogg
08-24-09, 22:05
It's a LaRue 10", and an AAC M4-2000.

I may try the new Troy TRX Extreme 11" on it if the weight savings vs the LaRue are significant. It's a pretty stout barrel for an SBR.

docsherm
08-24-09, 22:45
Thanks for the info.

Rated21R
08-27-09, 06:47
That is a nice upper Grant. :D

With your help I built this upper. The only difference I went with 11" LaRue and Vltor V1C.

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e193/Dragnaath/DSCN0836.jpg

which lower did you use?

curriek
08-28-09, 19:14
If only Michigan allowed SBRs...