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crusader377
10-20-11, 13:42
Looks like we are going to surrender more of our rights to the federal government. The TSA is starting a traffic checkpoints in TN. Again the TSA is using the terrorism bogeyman as an excuse to take more liberty away from the American people. Is it just me or this country is starting to resemble more and more the old soviet union and that was my inspiration for the title of this thread. What are your thoughts.

http://www.newschannel5.com/story/15725035/officials-claim-tennessee-becomes-first-state-to-deploy-vipr-statewide

Eric D.
10-20-11, 13:45
What are your thoughts.

Absolute dog shit.

Irish
10-20-11, 14:14
A good find but these VIPR teams aren't new and have been at this for a while.


As part of the TSA's request for FY 2012 funding, TSA Administrator John Pistole told Congress last week that the TSA conducts 8,000 unannounced security screenings every year. These screenings, conducted with local law enforcement agencies as well as immigration, can be as simple as checking out cargo at a busy seaport. But more and more, they seem to involve giving airport-style pat-downs and screenings of unsuspecting passengers at bus terminals, ferries, and even subways.

I miss America.

Belmont31R
10-20-11, 14:20
Thats why its TSA and not 'Aviation Security Administration'. They knew it would be used for more than just screening passengers boarding flights. The TSA will be on the roads, rails, air, sea, and anything else that can transport something.



I America I grew up in is gone. I was born in 83 and when I was a kid sat on a pilots knee mid flight. Gave me a set of plastic wings. Now you sit down, shut up, and get sexually assaulted to get on a plane.

FromMyColdDeadHand
10-20-11, 23:21
We have pretty permissive CCW laws out here in Colorado. Pat people down getting on the bus and they find my P7. And then..... nothing illegal there.

How long till TSA agents are ninja'd out in the latest SWAT gear.

I'd like to see how the whole 'road' thing will work. Warrant-less searches of cars? Yea, right.

Oscar 319
10-20-11, 23:38
But....don't you EVER, EVER question ones immigration status.

I wonder if it has anything to do with this? http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2011/10/19/first-mexican-truck-to-enter-us-within-days-pols-try-last-ditch-effort-to-stop/

I'm with Irish; I miss America.

Moose-Knuckle
10-21-11, 02:16
Warrant-less searches of cars? Yea, right.

We already do it on the borders each and every day.

And for the whole "That can't happen in America" crowd, MILLIONS of Americans have warrant-less searches performed on them and their property in direct violation of the 4th Amendment each and everyday at the nations airports.

BTT.

Guess who the "terrorists" are that the Gestapo. . .oops I mean TSA, DHS, and the DOJ are searching for???

Well let's take a look at some DOJ handouts. . .

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/fbiflyer.jpg
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg




Well let's see now. . .I don't see anything mentioned about someone who has taken flying lessons, studied martial arts, being of Middle-Eastern descent, proclaiming Islam, and or carrying a box cutter. . .:confused:


I quote the U.S. Constitution often, I have in the past and still purchase "weatherproofed ammunition containers", same with "MREs", "night flashlights", "gas masks", and "high capacity magazines".

It appears people with similar spending habits and personal beliefs to that of my own are the baby killing terrorists that our benevolent Federal Government is trying to "protect" the herd from.

VooDoo6Actual
10-21-11, 03:07
We already do it on the borders each and every day.

And for the whole "That can't happen in America" crowd, MILLIONS of Americans have warrant-less searches performed on them and their property in direct violation of the 4th Amendment each and everyday at the nations airports.

BTT.

Guess who the "terrorists" are that the Gestapo. . .oops I mean TSA, DHS, and the DOJ are searching for???

Well let's take a look at some DOJ handouts. . .

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/fbiflyer.jpg
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg




Well let's see now. . .I don't see anything mentioned about someone who has taken flying lessons, studied martial arts, being of Middle-Eastern descent, proclaiming Islam, and or carrying a box cutter. . .:confused:


I quote the U.S. Constitution often, I have in the past and still purchase "weatherproofed ammunition containers", same with "MREs", "night flashlights", "gas masks", and "high capacity magazines".

It appears people with similar spending habits and personal beliefs to that of my own are the baby killing terrorists that our benevolent Federal Government is trying to "protect" the herd from.

Spot on post MK.


Funny how they left out LEO's/Firefighters/VETS/Retired LEO's/Active Duty/Preppers as well
AS a side ironic comment, notice the Left Wing Extremist Terrorism section on flyer. Marxist/Leninist philosophy WAY smaller than it use to be & completely overshadowed by the others. Also isn't that a bit of a oxymoron/paradox/dichotomy ?
Funny, someone's picture isn't there that should be....

It's almost surrealistic the "PSYOP" going on in our own country isnt it ?

Hard to believe the path we are on these days...I have never seen such a FUBAR list in all my life.

Reagans Rascals
10-21-11, 03:28
We already do it on the borders each and every day.

And for the whole "That can't happen in America" crowd, MILLIONS of Americans have warrant-less searches performed on them and their property in direct violation of the 4th Amendment each and everyday at the nations airports.

BTT.

Guess who the "terrorists" are that the Gestapo. . .oops I mean TSA, DHS, and the DOJ are searching for???

Well let's take a look at some DOJ handouts. . .

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/fbiflyer.jpg
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/wp-content/uploads/ColoradoFBISurplusStore.pdf


http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Front.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/FBI-MCSOTerroristFlyer-Back.jpg




Well let's see now. . .I don't see anything mentioned about someone who has taken flying lessons, studied martial arts, being of Middle-Eastern descent, proclaiming Islam, and or carrying a box cutter. . .:confused:


I quote the U.S. Constitution often, I have in the past and still purchase "weatherproofed ammunition containers", same with "MREs", "night flashlights", "gas masks", and "high capacity magazines".

It appears people with similar spending habits and personal beliefs to that of my own are the baby killing terrorists that our benevolent Federal Government is trying to "protect" the herd from.

WTF is a night flash light?

is that the same as a mouth toothbrush?..... fml

Irish
10-21-11, 10:43
How about drug checkpoints on the freeways in Michigan? http://www.freep.com/article/20111021/NEWS06/110210365/Drivers-face-drug-checkpoints-highways-near-Flint?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9365/bildesy.jpg

What a great way to create an adversarial relationship with the citizens of their community. Anybody pulling me over at any type of check point can expect me to be the most uncooperative person on the planet. So much for the 4th Amendment and America.

Moose-Knuckle
10-21-11, 10:54
AS a side ironic comment, notice the Left Wing Extremist Terrorism section on flyer. Marxist/Leninist philosophy WAY smaller than it use to be & completely overshadowed by the others. Also isn't that a bit of a oxymoron/paradox/dichotomy ?
Funny, someone's picture isn't there that should be....

Roger that, how many left wing extremist/marxist has POTUS been linked to now?

Rev. Jeremiah Wright
William (Bill) Ayers
Saul Alinsky
The list goes on. . .

Doc Safari
10-21-11, 11:00
I'm not going to link it necessarily to the TSA, but remember Obama's desire for a civilian security force.

Jellybean
10-21-11, 17:47
From the flyer-
Single Issue Terrorists- "lone individuals"

:confused:
So everyone's a terrorist then? I don't get it.


WTF is a night flash light?

is that the same as a mouth toothbrush?.....

:lol: Brilliant!

Mauser KAR98K
10-21-11, 19:47
Thats why its TSA and not 'Aviation Security Administration'. They knew it would be used for more than just screening passengers boarding flights. The TSA will be on the roads, rails, air, sea, and anything else that can transport something.



I America I grew up in is gone. I was born in 83 and when I was a kid sat on a pilots knee mid flight. Gave me a set of plastic wings. Now you sit down, shut up, and get sexually assaulted to get on a plane.

Hey, Belmont. Born the same year. Isn't it funny how we were the last class that in kindergarten, first grade when the teacher pointed to the Russia, it was still the USSR. Sad to see our country turning into it.

arizonaranchman
10-22-11, 06:44
Gee if you support the constitution, object to the government overstepping it's legal limits, own a firearm, are a christian, etc you're viewed as an Enemy of the State.

The future of this nation is extremely dark. Foreign terrorists are of little concern in comparison to our own government I'm afraid.