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tfltackdriver
10-26-11, 22:02
914 Consulting LLC-Vickers Shooting Method 1-Day Basic Handgun Class
Oct. 22, 2011, C2 Shooting Center, Virginia Beach, Va.

The morning started bright, early and cool with about a dozen shooters. The bulk had a couple of years' experience with a few very experienced shooters and one who had never shot a pistol before.

We started with a quick but thorough safety brief, then moved to the firing line at about 3 yards for a basic skills assessment shooting five (or in my case, six) shots at a 3x5 index card. We moved on to a few hours of trigger control exercises, including a very useful two-man ball-and-dummy drill and some dry-fire work shooting from the trigger reset.

From there we learned reload procedure (which I also screwed up the first time) and a five-step draw. We interspersed this with a couple of walk-back drills on a 12x12 inch piece of steel in which I'd say at least half of the class survived back to at least 50 yards in the first go-round. We didn't do quite as well under a 5-second timer from the draw the second time around. Of course, it's more than enough time to make the shot, but goes to show how that beeping little bastard can get into your head.

The second 2/3rds of our time was spent mostly in timed drills both drawing from the holster and shooting from the ready.

We also did some team drills on steel and some man-on-man (two guys side-by-side shooting at two pieces of steel from the holster at the beep of the timer -- first on steel wins). I enjoyed this portion of the course the most. Remarkably, we had shooters pinging steel from 10 yards from the draw under 2 seconds and a few instances where even the timer couldn't pick the winner.

The emphasis throughout the course was on accuracy through perfect trigger pull and smooth execution of draws and reloads.

Take-aways:
1. I have been shooting handguns of various makes for a decade now. I would say I easily fell into the lower third in terms of proficiency. This goes to show the value of learning things the right way early and not building bad habits. I unlearned a lot of those bad habits and came away with a lot of very useful drills that I will use to continue to improve. The shooters with the least experience were some of the best shots by the end of the day.

1a. I have taken two basic get-your-concealed-carry-permit courses with local PDs that focused on legalities and mindset with maybe 20 minutes combined live-fire. While you can't replace the mindset instilled by a police officer telling you that he's not going to be there to hold your hand when the doo-doo hits the fan and that you're responsible for your personal safety, I feel as if I might as well have lit that money on fire. Chris' course, on the other hand, was an exceptional value.

2. I will always endeavor to carry a reload. I have had a concealed carry permit for 3 1/2 years and almost never carried one. In class I was occasionally doing "tactical" reloads between drills, basically inserting a fresh magazine between them. Well, I failed to seat a magazine properly once. I drew and my magazine went flying out of my pistol. In a real-world scenario, this would have left me absolutely screwed. The good thing was that in only a few hours of exercises, I executed a reload without thinking about it.

3. Wraparound eye shields are the dorkiest thing ever, but they work. The shooter to my left on the line was a little shorter than me and using a .45. His hot baby food jars were hitting me in the left eye throughout the course. My ESS crossbows kept that brass out of my eye. My day would have been quite short if I had worn my regular glasses.

Chris is a solid instructor. The proof is in the results you will see at the end of the course. I look forward to taking a basic carbine course with him when he gets back up and running next year.

And man, I am sorry for your loss. I hope family, friends and faith will carry you through this.

chris914
11-01-11, 19:35
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chris914
11-01-11, 19:47
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Will45
11-18-11, 06:07
This is the second class that I have taken by Chris. The first class was on 9/18/11, and I learned a lot of fundamentals and different ways of looking at things. The classes teaches you certain things like: proper gear to use in class or while you carry, good hearing protection while in class/range, proper way to do reloads, proper drawing techniques, shooting at multiple targets, and the extra pressure of shooting against the box that makes the funny noise....the timer:haha:. I found out about Chris on the internet; spoke and emailed him about information about classes, weapon choices, and gear. I do not know about most people, but I do not like wasting money on unnecessary gear when I can buy more ammo.
I know I am as guilty as anyone else on this aspect; when I use to go to the range, I use to go through 250+ rounds each time. Now when I go to the range, I have learned in class that every shot counts. I may go through 50-100 rounds once a month. The difference is 'get you hits'. Chris gives you training that you can practice: 'The Wall' drill, reloads, and drawing you weapon; so that when you go to the range you can 'get you hits'. I added a letter that I spoke of Chris and what i have learned of his training.

Last thing before the letter...Chris is not a douch-bag...he is a good guy who brought this caveman out of the cave and taught me how to use my weapon better. He is here to teach and train people who want to be better/safer shooters.

Empty magazines are useless



More than one Bad guy



Un**** your weapon



Get your hits

Now the letter,

Last night at the dinner table, a news article was on tv about this guy was talking about the breaking in of houses; that the people have been targeting their neighborhood, etc. The news stated that the people were breaking in when either the house is empty or when it was occupied. The guy getting interviewed said if they came in his house that he had something for him. I told my mother that they gun would have probably shot up his house and would not hit anything or even worse hit a loved one. I told my mother of shooting in class and shooting against the timer. The extra stress of the timer causes mistakes just like the adrenaline would in the home evasion situation. I brought up the subject to my mother that a lot of people at the range, or people that carry everyday that they do not have the proper training to carry conceal more or less to have a firearm in the house where other family member could be harmed while their spouse is trying to protect them. That is then your name came up; I told her that you were trying to teach people the necessary fundamentals of accuracy and properly using your weapon in a defensive manner. Also, like in the Foodlion store were the vender was shot in the leg; there were multiple targets; a key point that you drilled in the class in September and October. I felt left like a ass taking two classes in two months because I thought the class would be the same; but it felt like a life time b/t the month, in both classes I leaned a lot and I wish you had more time and a cooperating facility that would allow you to be able to teach/reach more people. Just letting you know; your classes and effort is appreciated.


Thanks for listening,

Will45

"Colts and Kimbers are what you show your friends. Glocks and HK's are what you show your enemies."