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Everything I could find with the search feature was old news. It would give me some piece of mind to have at least one reload readily available to me on my HD gun. What is currently the best way to accomplish this? The old data said that mag couplers are junk and a redi-mag is a heavy, semi-permanent attachment to the gun.
This is assuming a "bump in the night" grab and go scenario. Not time to grab a chest rig, belt, etc. The reason for wanting a second mag is a high instance of meth-type folks out here in the country where I live, and I could see a few of them rolling up together, and needing to maybe shoot through windows, etc.
Thoughts, recommendations?
Thanks!
I dont know about the whole shoot through window scenario (unless its during the zombie apocalypse..lol) and if your talking about AR mags....a 30 rounder should be more then enough for HD. remember when you fire a round you need to be aware of everything that surrounds the target and especially whats behind, I understand you need to defend you home and its residents but you dont want to hit someone sleeping in the next house (for moral and legal reasons). Thats why I prefer 12 gauge birdshot with a buck or two in the end of the magazine. you want a round that does not have deep penetration (only enough to stop the threat). but back to mags.....surefire has a 60 rounder which has gotten great reviews on the thread by Mr. Vickers. There is always the old school duct tape method, or maybe some ranger bands (if your unimpressed w/ the redi-mags, couplers or mag cinch)....but like i said a ten rounder should be more then enough for HD (even if you missed which I hope you dont, usually the sound of a gun fired or a shotgun cocked will send a would be burglar away). Good luck with your decision but instead of extra mags some good practice you'll be okay.
Its good to have a second magazine not for the need for more ammunition but also for remediating malfunctions.
Might want to look at the buttstock magazine pouches that are out there.
http://www.optactical.com/stmagpo.html
You could always throw that second mag in your back pocket.
SWATcop556
10-27-11, 22:20
I dont know about the whole shoot through window scenario (unless its during the zombie apocalypse..lol) and if your talking about AR mags....a 30 rounder should be more then enough for HD. remember when you fire a round you need to be aware of everything that surrounds the target and especially whats behind, I understand you need to defend you home and its residents but you dont want to hit someone sleeping in the next house (for moral and legal reasons). Thats why I prefer 12 gauge birdshot with a buck or two in the end of the magazine. you want a round that does not have deep penetration (only enough to stop the threat). but back to mags.....surefire has a 60 rounder which has gotten great reviews on the thread by Mr. Vickers. There is always the old school duct tape method, or maybe some ranger bands (if your unimpressed w/ the redi-mags, couplers or mag cinch)....but like i said a ten rounder should be more then enough for HD (even if you missed which I hope you dont, usually the sound of a gun fired or a shotgun cocked will send a would be burglar away). Good luck with your decision but instead of extra mags some good practice you'll be okay.
I would suggest further research on your part my friend. I'm typing from an iPhone so I'm not addressing each issue but most of your info is flawed at best. Bird shot is a horrible SD round, buck shot has a better chance of over penetrating, and don't get me started on the "rackin' a gauge" comment.
To the OP I would strongly suggest looking into a redi-mod which is a lightened version of the redi-mag. Couplers suck because the exposed rounds on the spare mag will shift forward under recoil and cause big issues with reloads. For God's sake don't duct tape anything to your rifle.
For my HD rifle a reload is more for malfunction clearing vs needing 56 rounds of 5.56.
I have heard of "rubber banding" a mag to your stock and when you need it, you just rip the mag and break the bands...haven't put it into practice though so I can't comment on the practicality of it. Probably about as cheap as you're going to get for adding a mag to anything though lol
I would suggest further research on your part my friend. I'm typing from an iPhone so I'm not addressing each issue but most of your info is flawed at best. Bird shot is a horrible SD round, buck shot has a better chance of over penetrating, and don't get me started on the "rackin' a gauge" comment.
To the OP I would strongly suggest looking into a redi-mod which is a lightened version of the redi-mag. Couplers suck because the exposed rounds on the spare mag will shift forward under recoil and cause big issues with reloads. For God's sake don't duct tape anything to your rifle.
For my HD rifle a reload is more for malfunction clearing vs needing 56 rounds of 5.56.
A) the duct tape was a joke so was the sound a shotgun makes when racked, B) break into my home and let me throw some bird shot at you and see if your still a threat. is it perfect no but it will do the job just like a well placed .22, when I stated buckshot I meant it as generally something a bit larger then birdshot ie leadshot (all in all buck shot will not have the same over penetration as a fmj .223 which most people have on hand) if you want to get into penetration factors there have been 9mm that dont penetrate heavy winter clothing, does it mean its not a sd round idk ask most police dept around the nation....c) my post was mostly to get the point across that throwing .223 round around for hd needs a second thought. your getting on me the op stated "and I could see a few of them rolling up together, and needing to maybe shoot through windows, etc" thats a haphazard statement. so instead of answering the question id rather address the issue. if you disagree i guess my statements are flawed. anyway a person at your window is not considered defending your home. and depending on the state you live in youwould be prosecuted. so go ahead get a ready-mag or ready-mod with a 60 round surefire loaded and a 30 on the side, just encase you need to dump 90 rounds at your window in a residential area..ohh yeah and keep it loaded by your bedside :confused::confused::confused:...... flawed...then again im not from texas or georgia so what do i know, maybe that is a justified shooting, id figure a deputy would have given better advice (i guess in texas people are too desensitized about firearms).....
A) the duct tape was a joke so was the sound a shotgun makes when racked, B) break into my home and let me throw some bird shot at you and see if your still a threat. is it perfect no but it will do the job just like a well placed .22, when I stated buckshot I meant it as generally something a bit larger then birdshot ie leadshot (all in all buck shot will not have the same over penetration as a fmj .223 which most people have on hand) if you want to get into penetration factors there have been 9mm that dont penetrate heavy winter clothing, does it mean its not a sd round idk ask most police dept around the nation....c) my post was mostly to get the point across that throwing .223 round around for hd needs a second thought. your getting on me the op stated "and I could see a few of them rolling up together, and needing to maybe shoot through windows, etc" thats a haphazard statement. so instead of answering the question id rather address the issue. if you disagree i guess my statements are flawed. anyway a person at your window is not considered defending your home. and depending on the state you live in youwould be prosecuted. so go ahead get a ready-mag or ready-mod with a 60 round surefire loaded and a 30 on the side, just encase you need to dump 90 rounds at your window in a residential area..ohh yeah and keep it loaded by your bedside :confused::confused::confused:...... flawed...then again im not from texas or georgia so what do i know.....
You don't have to be from TX or GA to have the aptitude to read and learn from the information that has been put out there on subjects that you speak of so erroneously.
You don't have to be from TX or GA to have the aptitude to read and learn from the information that has been put out there on subjects that you speak of so erroneously.
which statement was erroneous, when i stated that maybe a .223 mag dump in your home or towards a window isn't the best idea, or when i said maybe something different from a .223 round would be better for home defense, or when i said that 60 rounds is a lot for home defense. maybe if you were his neighbor you would think differently. maybe i was wrong in saying that it would be f'ed up when this guy misses his target and hits a sleeping child next door. (but then again he'll have 59 more rounds to get it right) maybe its just me but the op's statement was ridiculous. i know this is a firearm forum but id figure a law enforcement officer would give the advice of telling the op to retreat to safety first and engage the threat only if necessary. I didn't know the sheriff's dept in somewhere, TX advocated residents to have stand-offs in their home. so yeah I'm erroneous on all counts.....to which i stated in my previous post I'm no instructor or ballistic specialist I was just giving my two cents. and if a moderator cant understand that he could have just deleted my initial post instead of knocking a member of his forum. and Ironman, yes i can read but he didn't really elaborate on what i said which was false (as he stated he was on his Iphone and could not) on the other hand you didn't really state any info yourself so i can only conclude you were jumping up to take the back of your fellow Texan (which I thought was only reserved for ranchers in Wyoming) I did not join this forum to bash or get bashed otherwise i would have joined AR15dotCOM. Thank you for your warm welcomes on this forum, next time could you lube up before.....
I dont know about the whole shoot through window scenario (unless its during the zombie apocalypse..lol) and if your talking about AR mags....a 30 rounder should be more then enough for HD. remember when you fire a round you need to be aware of everything that surrounds the target and especially whats behind, I understand you need to defend you home and its residents but you dont want to hit someone sleeping in the next house (for moral and legal reasons). Thats why I prefer 12 gauge birdshot with a buck or two in the end of the magazine. you want a round that does not have deep penetration (only enough to stop the threat). but back to mags.....surefire has a 60 rounder which has gotten great reviews on the thread by Mr. Vickers. There is always the old school duct tape method, or maybe some ranger bands (if your unimpressed w/ the redi-mags, couplers or mag cinch)....but like i said a ten rounder should be more then enough for HD (even if you missed which I hope you dont, usually the sound of a gun fired or a shotgun cocked will send a would be burglar away). Good luck with your decision but instead of extra mags some good practice you'll be okay.
The topic of the AR15 versus the shotgun has been debated to death on this forum so perhaps that is why everyone is a bit short.
The erroneous comments you made were already addressed by the moderator. You stated that you wanted a round that didn't have deep penetration and would be enough to stop the threat. The problem is that while birdshot isn't a deep penetrator, it's also lousy at stopping threats. This makes it a complete no-go in a self defense scenario when all you may have is one shot.
Then you said that you loaded a "buck or two" at the end of the magazine. First, buckshot, especially 00 buck, will penetrate through more internal/external walls versus 5.56 rounds. I believe 00 buck has more lethality after passing through walls than a 5.56. Second, depending on the size of your tube/magazine, you'd have to discharge multiple shells of marginally effective birdshot to get to the buckshot you so desperately needed. You might not get that many chances, against a determined assailant.
Also, you can hope that a 10 rounder might be enough, but I'd rather have 17+1 in a pistol and 30+1 in a rifle. People tend to "miss" in highly stressful situations. Bad guys tend to move and shoot back, not stand there like a paper target.
Here's a link to DocGKR's sticky: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=44869
Here's one of many debates on AR15s versus shotguns for home defense: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=48765
The topic of the AR15 versus the shotgun has been debated to death on this forum so perhaps that is why everyone is a bit short.
The erroneous comments you made were already addressed by the moderator. You stated that you wanted a round that didn't have deep penetration and would be enough to stop the threat. The problem is that while birdshot isn't a deep penetrator, it's also lousy at stopping threats. This makes it a complete no-go in a self defense scenario when all you may have is one shot.
Then you said that you loaded a "buck or two" at the end of the magazine. First, buckshot, especially 00 buck, will penetrate through more internal/external walls versus 5.56 rounds. I believe 00 buck has more lethality after passing through walls than a the 5.56. Second, depending on the size of your tube/magazine, you'd have to discharge multiple shells of marginally effective birdshot to get to the buckshot you so desperately needed. You might not get that many chances, against a determined assailant.
Also, you can hope that a 10 rounder might be enough, but I'd rather have 17+1 in a pistol and 30+1 in a rifle. People tend to "miss" in highly stressful situations. Bad guys tend to move and shoot back, not stand there like a paper target.
Here's a link to DocGKR's sticky: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=44869
Here's one of many debates on AR15s versus shotguns for home defense: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=48765
I hear you and appreciate the diplomatic way you put it. Thats all that had to be said there was no reason for anyone getting hostile.
I hear you and appreciate the diplomatic way you put it. Thats all that had to be said there was no reason for anyone getting hostile.
No problem and you are very welcome. I don't think people were getting hostile as much as they were being "short". It's hard to convey tone and emotion on the internet and it's easy to read hostility into words typed by males on a firearms forum.
You'll find that most on this forum are more than willing to help others, but sometimes on a topic that's been beaten to death, there'll be a lack of patience. :laugh:
Failure2Stop
10-28-11, 04:30
It wasn't my idea, but I really like the Redi-Mod on my HD gun, with (2) 20 rounders. Gives plenty of ammo for most situations, the ability to solve a mag related issue or reload with haste if needed, protection to the spare magazine, and less snag hazard and weight than (2) 30 rounders. Stick it on a LW rig with a T-1 (or similar) and a good small light and the weight gain is a non-issue really.
Makes it a lot easier and more convenient to take a spare mag into a confrontation if you don't happen to sleep in 5.11 PJs.
Failure2Stop
10-28-11, 04:41
which statement was erroneous, when i stated that maybe a .223 mag dump in your home or towards a window isn't the best idea, or when i said maybe something different from a .223 round would be better for home defense, or when i said that 60 rounds is a lot for home defense. maybe if you were his neighbor you would think differently. maybe i was wrong in saying that it would be f'ed up when this guy misses his target and hits a sleeping child next door. (but then again he'll have 59 more rounds to get it right) maybe its just me but the op's statement was ridiculous. i know this is a firearm forum but id figure a law enforcement officer would give the advice of telling the op to retreat to safety first and engage the threat only if necessary. I didn't know the sheriff's dept in somewhere, TX advocated residents to have stand-offs in their home. so yeah I'm erroneous on all counts.....to which i stated in my previous post I'm no instructor or ballistic specialist I was just giving my two cents. and if a moderator cant understand that he could have just deleted my initial post instead of knocking a member of his forum. and Ironman, yes i can read but he didn't really elaborate on what i said which was false (as he stated he was on his Iphone and could not) on the other hand you didn't really state any info yourself so i can only conclude you were jumping up to take the back of your fellow Texan (which I thought was only reserved for ranchers in Wyoming) I did not join this forum to bash or get bashed otherwise i would have joined AR15dotCOM. Thank you for your warm welcomes on this forum, next time could you lube up before.....
Dude, seriously, get off it.
I am more than happy to delete your posts if you can't deal with direct moderation.
Consider this a warning.
This forum is full of solid, technical information from serious dedicated users of the platform. When someone comes in and makes ridiculous statements and becomes a pariah when called on it, it becomes an annoyance to our established and productive members and detracts from the quality of information flow.
If you want to be a productive and appreciated member, please conduct yourself as such. Otherwise, there are plenty of other forums that might be a better fit.
Everything I could find with the search feature was old news. It would give me some piece of mind to have at least one reload readily available to me on my HD gun. What is currently the best way to accomplish this? The old data said that mag couplers are junk and a redi-mag is a heavy, semi-permanent attachment to the gun.
This is assuming a "bump in the night" grab and go scenario. Not time to grab a chest rig, belt, etc. The reason for wanting a second mag is a high instance of meth-type folks out here in the country where I live, and I could see a few of them rolling up together, and needing to maybe shoot through windows, etc.
Thoughts, recommendations?
Thanks!
The redi-mod is lighter and there are people who have lightened there redi-mag with a dremel to be like a redi-mod.
It wasn't my idea, but I really like the Redi-Mod on my HD gun, with (2) 20 rounders. Gives plenty of ammo for most situations, the ability to solve a mag related issue or reload with haste if needed, protection to the spare magazine, and less snag hazard and weight than (2) 30 rounders. Stick it on a LW rig with a T-1 (or similar) and a good small light and the weight gain is a non-issue really.
Makes it a lot easier and more convenient to take a spare mag into a confrontation if you don't happen to sleep in 5.11 PJs.
That is one of those, "Why didn't I think of that?!" ideas. Seems pretty sound in all aspects. 40 rounds of ammo on-gun, and then a sidearm of 10-20rnd capacity seems like it would be gracious plenty.
You could always throw that second mag in your back pocket.
No back pockets in my boxers.
Wow, that turned into quite the storm pretty quickly. FWIW, let me try to take some more time to better explain the situation:
I am fully aware of the repercussions or pulling a trigger. Every round goes somewhere.
We've already de-bunked captain Krock and his birdshot myth.
What I did not state originally, but others have wisely pointed out is the possibility of needing to reload due to malfunction.
In regards to the window shooting comment, let me rephrase that to barriers in general. Interior doors after having barricaded oneself in a bedroom perhaps?
Or let's say this: The scrap metal business has grown exponentially in my area in the last few years. The Meth-heads have found that they can feed their habits by stealing and selling scrap metal. So, I hear a bump in the night, grab the rifle and investigate. Oh no, its 3 or 4 meth-heads trying to get my aluminum garage door panels, or my car, or my AC unit - it's happened around here, seriously. They see me walk up and begin firing at me (probably ghetto-style with Hi-Points, but still). At that point, firing into/through barriers, hoping to stop the threat or at least get them to duck long enough for me to get to safety and call 911 is a high priority. Depending upon how jacked up they currently are, they may decide coming after me is a good idea. More rounds get fired, etc.
How likely is this scenario? I don't know, but it's far more likely now than it used to be.
Bottom line, it's not a bad idea to want a second mag on the gun (for those of us that don't sleep in 511 pj's).
So back to the question (and thanks to those who have replied on-topic), what is the best option? So far, it seems like the redi-mod is the winner.
Maybe a battle belt that you could throw on before you get your rifle? You could leave it set up with a handgun also, would only take a second to click on.
No back pockets in my boxers.
What? NO Pants??
Seriously though,
If you don't want the weight and bulk of two mags at the mag well location,
a pair of 20 rounders can be secured to a standard M4 stock with a heavy duty rubber band.
This provides a 3 mag / 70 round solution.
Failure2Stop
10-28-11, 10:20
Maybe a battle belt that you could throw on before you get your rifle? You could leave it set up with a handgun also, would only take a second to click on.
Before I worried about strapping something around my waist I would put armor over my vitals.
Time is of the essence, and a plate carrier can be thrown over your head with one hand without having to buckle ot secure anything and still be very effective. Belt: not so much. And I really like belt setups.
Do not expect to have enough time to jock up in the event of a home invasion. You are at a decision point: find the fight or let it come to you. If you decide to go find the fight, know that you are at a disadvantage from the moment that you open your bedroom door. Usually, the best idea is to bunker and protect. If that is not an option, I have found that you can get away with some pretty audacious shit if you are willing to be mean, fast, and naked. However, that's usually reserved for dire circumstances, and when shit goes south I want armor and the ability to manage blood-loss.
So far, it seems like the redi-mod is the winner.
I think the redi-mag/mod is the best solution for the needs you have described.
It will take some dedicated practice to make the most efficient use of it, but it will provide a spare mag on the gun in a location well suited for a quick reload.
Two 20 round mags are a little less bulky than two 30's in a redimag, if you're too worried about size/weight.
Wow, that turned into quite the storm pretty quickly. FWIW, let me try to take some more time to better explain the situation:
I am fully aware of the repercussions or pulling a trigger. Every round goes somewhere.
We've already de-bunked captain Krock and his birdshot myth.
What I did not state originally, but others have wisely pointed out is the possibility of needing to reload due to malfunction.
In regards to the window shooting comment, let me rephrase that to barriers in general. Interior doors after having barricaded oneself in a bedroom perhaps?
Or let's say this: The scrap metal business has grown exponentially in my area in the last few years. The Meth-heads have found that they can feed their habits by stealing and selling scrap metal. So, I hear a bump in the night, grab the rifle and investigate. Oh no, its 3 or 4 meth-heads trying to get my aluminum garage door panels, or my car, or my AC unit - it's happened around here, seriously. They see me walk up and begin firing at me (probably ghetto-style with Hi-Points, but still). At that point, firing into/through barriers, hoping to stop the threat or at least get them to duck long enough for me to get to safety and call 911 is a high priority. Depending upon how jacked up they currently are, they may decide coming after me is a good idea. More rounds get fired, etc.
How likely is this scenario? I don't know, but it's far more likely now than it used to be.
Bottom line, it's not a bad idea to want a second mag on the gun (for those of us that don't sleep in 511 pj's).
So back to the question (and thanks to those who have replied on-topic), what is the best option? So far, it seems like the redi-mod is the winner.
Same here. Tulsa Co. has been working a metal theft task force for several months. Most of the suspects have ties to meth production and use. They can be mean and unpredictable, not to mention bold in some of the types of theft they're perpetrating.
Also, we just had a shootout a couple of days ago where the residents of a home returned fire on some shooters behind their house. Approximately 75 rounds fired by both sides, with plenty of 7.62X39 empty brass made. It was pretty obvious gang related activity, but I've been in a situation where a meth lab was busted two houses away from mine, and that was in a decent neighborhood. The problems are really branching out into non-traditional areas. Who's to say the jacked up dopers won't mistake your home for the one they intend to target?
I keep a 20rd mag in the AR for HD, with a spare 30 rd nearby. The G-21 with X300 are next to the bed, with 2 spares for it. Fortunately, my wife has her M&P9 with TLR1 and two spares to back me up. If that isn't sufficient, then it's probably more than we can manage regardless of how many mags & guns are available.
SWATcop556
10-28-11, 13:15
I'm sorry I guess I should have included the following type with all of my posts:
*The opinion expressed herein does not reflect the opinion of the State of Texas, Sheriff's Office, or its designee.*
If you are attempting to make a joke maybe try following it up with a smilie or a "JK" or some other way to communicate humor. I've personally been on two different shootings where birdshot was used as a SD option. One was a distance of about 20 ft and the other was across the room. Both of the "victims" survived and one was even able to beat the piss out of the homeowner who shot him. My advice there would be never under estimate the drive and fight of a committed bad guy.
If you are using .223 or 5.56 FMJ as a SD round then you are even more of a dumbass who is planning for bear but loaded for bird. Modern ballistics has shown that a well designed SD 5.56 round is safer that blasting away with a guage.
I read the OP's post as more of a barrier defense question vs an actual blast through the windows statement. His concern of shitheads running in packs is well warranted. They are almost never alone and I'm pulling AK's out of cars on stops when it use to be rusted Ruger's and Hi-Points. Its a different day and age.
As far as the loaded by your bedside statement, its a heavy expensive paperweight if you don't have rocks for your slingshot. :happy:
I also want ot address the snippy pissy "I figured a Deputy would have given better advice" remark. The OP asked about the best way to carry a spare mag of a HD rifle and that is what I addressed. I also address the misinformation you threw out there as options. If I was asked about Texas Criminal Law I would have address that question. TX law, Georgia law, Martian law, or any other written law all have diddly jack shit to do with carrying a spare mag. No one here is desensitized to firearms or they wouldn't be here. Maybe you're just sensitive to someone pointing out that you stepped on you dick a little bit. But hey, what do I know. I'm just a TX gunslinger that tells everyone to fire away at the boogyman outside their window.
Proper sentence structure, punctuation, and capitalization might also make your post easier to read and respond to. And I worked hard for the title and it's Deputy with a capital "D." Carry on.
A) the duct tape was a joke so was the sound a shotgun makes when racked, B) break into my home and let me throw some bird shot at you and see if your still a threat. is it perfect no but it will do the job just like a well placed .22, when I stated buckshot I meant it as generally something a bit larger then birdshot ie leadshot (all in all buck shot will not have the same over penetration as a fmj .223 which most people have on hand) if you want to get into penetration factors there have been 9mm that dont penetrate heavy winter clothing, does it mean its not a sd round idk ask most police dept around the nation....c) my post was mostly to get the point across that throwing .223 round around for hd needs a second thought. your getting on me the op stated "and I could see a few of them rolling up together, and needing to maybe shoot through windows, etc" thats a haphazard statement. so instead of answering the question id rather address the issue. if you disagree i guess my statements are flawed. anyway a person at your window is not considered defending your home. and depending on the state you live in youwould be prosecuted. so go ahead get a ready-mag or ready-mod with a 60 round surefire loaded and a 30 on the side, just encase you need to dump 90 rounds at your window in a residential area..ohh yeah and keep it loaded by your bedside :confused::confused::confused:...... flawed...then again im not from texas or georgia so what do i know, maybe that is a justified shooting, id figure a deputy would have given better advice (i guess in texas people are too desensitized about firearms).....
Maybe a battle belt that you could throw on before you get your rifle? You could leave it set up with a handgun also, would only take a second to click on.
I like the idea of a battle belt. I keep 2 spare AR mags, blowout kit, spare flashlight, knife, and 3 spare pistol mags on it along with my loaded pistol with a light in a Safariland ACS holster.
I keep this hanging over my closet door and in a hurry, I just throw it over my head bandoleer style. this works fine or I can just slip the other arm through and slide it down when I got time...
I like the idea of a battle belt. I keep 2 spare AR mags, blowout kit, spare flashlight, knife, and 3 spare pistol mags on it along with my loaded pistol with a light in a Safariland ACS holster.
I keep this hanging over my closet door and in a hurry, I just throw it over my head bandoleer style. this works fine or I can just slip the other arm through and slide it down when I got time...
I also think a battle belt can be a good HD idea. Mine has the belt that clips together, so it literally takes about 1 second to clip on. On the belt I have 3 spare AR mags, 2 spare pistol mags, flashlight, trauma kit, fixed blade knife, and my Sig P229 in Safariland retention holster. Is all of that overkill for home defense? Maybe. But since it only takes a second to clip on, I doubt anyone would ever complain that they had too much ammo after a gunfight. It’s a very quick way to have many valuable tools on hand in a quick second.
If you want to stay really simple, I agree that a ready mag/mod with two 20 or 30 round mags is probably the way to go.
Before I worried about strapping something around my waist I would put armor over my vitals.
Time is of the essence, and a plate carrier can be thrown over your head with one hand without having to buckle ot secure anything and still be very effective. Belt: not so much. And I really like belt setups.
Do not expect to have enough time to jock up in the event of a home invasion. You are at a decision point: find the fight or let it come to you. If you decide to go find the fight, know that you are at a disadvantage from the moment that you open your bedroom door. Usually, the best idea is to bunker and protect. If that is not an option, I have found that you can get away with some pretty audacious shit if you are willing to be mean, fast, and naked. However, that's usually reserved for dire circumstances, and when shit goes south I want armor and the ability to manage blood-loss.
I literally wrote this down for future reference. I'm pulling my HD stuff together, and this is the kind of info that helps me most. Thanks!
Another vote for Redi-Mod, or skeletonize a Redi-Mag yourself with a Dremel and a cutoff wheel and a grinding tip to save some cash, if youve got a Dremel already. It's fairly easy and actually, a bit more material can be removed than BFG does, so you can save a bit more weight if that's important to you.
To hell with this side track of the thread. The guy is using an AR, period. What weapon he uses for HD is not up for debate. What equipment he uses on it is.
Ensure that your Redi-Mag securely retains your spare mag. After extensive use, my first Redi-Mag, (which I skeletonized), would drop mags under stress. That is, if I swung the weapon in a new direction hard enough, or dropped it, it would release my spare mag. Unacceptable. I am in the process of experimenting with aftermarket springs from McMaster-Carr and seeing if I can remedy this worn spring issue. Out of the box, this was not an issue and it only presented itself after ~7 months of continuous use. This comment is not meant to disparage the Redi-Mag system in any way. I absolutely love it and plan to keep it on my go-to gun. Though I did prefer their first generation models to the newer ones...
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