View Full Version : anyone used Trailboss for subsonic .308 loads
QuietShootr
10-28-11, 20:27
? Looks like it would be ideal.
COVERBUSTER
10-28-11, 20:49
I have HEARD that this is the " go to " from a close friend who is running 2 7.62 cans. No first hand reports of rounds down range, as it takes him awhile to do stuff but when he does there are no mistakes, nothing is half assed.
:secret:
I use it all the time.
http://youtu.be/T_K1LZEvZe0
Sam1002057
10-29-11, 01:47
I also use it for my subs. No issues at all.
QuietShootr
10-29-11, 14:41
Do you guys care to share your loads?
175 SMK
Lapua brass
CCI 200 primer
10gr Trailboss
Good for 3/4 moa at 100yds, 2moa at 300yds.
QuietShootr
10-29-11, 22:00
175 SMK
Lapua brass
CCI 200 primer
10gr Trailboss
Good for 3/4 moa at 100yds, 2moa at 300yds.
Excellent. How full is the case with 10gr?
Sam1002057
10-30-11, 05:14
Mine is pretty much the same as Orkan's...
10.5 gr Trailboss
180gr Hornady RN
Winchester Brass
CCI 200 Primer
I went with the 180gr RN b/c it stabilizes out of a 1/12 because of the shorter projectile length. I will probably move up to something heavier once I get around to blueprinting and rebarreling my 700.... its almost time.
Case fills up nicely because of the bulkiness... I cant remember exactly though... I haven't had to load them in a while.
175 SMK
Lapua brass
CCI 200 primer
10gr Trailboss
Good for 3/4 moa at 100yds, 2moa at 300yds.
what length and twist rate are you using?
ive been trying to find mmore info on this as well to work a load up for my 20" 1:10twist barrel.
1:10 twist in a krieger 18" tube. Bisley chamber.
Raven Armament
10-31-11, 00:21
My advice is start with 11gr and work DOWN until you hit subsonic. Then paper test, then shoot through a can.
175 SMK
Lapua brass
CCI 200 primer
10gr Trailboss
Good for 3/4 moa at 100yds, 2moa at 300yds.
Our resident BLOW HARD in the yellow visor says quoting "MOA" at specific distances is like nails on a chalkboard. :rolleyes:
callen3615
10-31-11, 09:36
I have also heard of people using red dot.
ive also heard of Unique being used which is what i use for multiple pistol calibers as well as shotgun but most seem to have better luck with the TB. fills the case a bit better than unique as well, or so ive read.
Our resident BLOW HARD in the yellow visor says quoting "MOA" at specific distances is like nails on a chalkboard. :rolleyes:
How the hell else are you suppose to provide a realistic account of accuracy? Just because a rifle shoots moa at 100yds, does not mean it will with given loads at distance. This is VERY common with subsonic loadings that are right at the very edge of being stabilized upon exit from the muzzle.
I'd start closer to 12gr and work down. Barrel length is a key factor here folks. Longer barrels = more friction. There is no hardened rule when it comes to subs, but I can tell you that a shorter barrel is better than longer.
QuietShootr
10-31-11, 19:45
This is a 20" 1:10 Remington, the AAC-SD model.
Interesting - I went to order some Trailboss today and found that it is sold in 9 ounce cans - the same size as the traditional 1 pound can.
I order it in the 4lb kegs... and they are bigger than the 8lb kegs you typically find.
It is a very fluffy powder... hence why it takes up so much room and is good for sub loads. ;)
turdbocharged
11-01-11, 14:37
Wow and here I thought Trailboss was only for wheelgun loads... My FIL makes some pretty light 44 Mags out of that stuff.
Picked up the small container of this today. Going to try some subs on Saturday.
Picked up the small container of this today. Going to try some subs on Saturday.
If you don't have a suppressor... they aren't nearly as cool. :)
If you don't have a suppressor... they aren't nearly as cool. :)
For sure... I just want to try them out while Pappabear waits for the ATFtards to shuffle papers on his 7.62 can.
For sure... I just want to try them out while Pappabear waits for the ATFtards to shuffle papers on his 7.62 can.
It's a good idea to test them without the can anyway... to make sure they don't keyhole. Baffle strikes ruin fun fast.
Good point. Should we punch them through paper at close range to check that???? Or just shoot them through paper at a 50, 100, etc.??
Both. You'll know in 2 rounds. :)
If it's keyholing at 100... it's not stable enough at the muzzle. If it's creating an oval at 10ft... it's not gonna be stable at 100. It can be kind of hard to see up close though.
dont need to break in my CAN that way. Lets start with paper.:D
I need to call ATF on this CAN and see WTF is up? I think its been 5 light years now.
Oh man!!! These things are cool. I could shoot them without ears and they're about as loud as a 556 supressed AR.
These are going to make for really fun practice rounds.
You think its bad now? Suppressed... they are as addicting as hell.
308 crack.... for sure.
No recoil... no noise... wow.
FYI u NEED a 1/10 twist or they will come out sideways... 308 sub tracers are awsum BTW :)
FYI u NEED a 1/10 twist or they will come out sideways... 308 sub tracers are awsum BTW :)
I must have a 1/10... I thought I had a 1/12, but this thing shoot long bullets great.
Rem made the SPS TAC in both twists apparently.
I must have a 1/10... I thought I had a 1/12, but this thing shoot long bullets great.
Rem made the SPS TAC in both twists apparently.
check with a cleaning rod.. if you dont know how, ask or google.. its easy..
but i have never seen a 1/12 shoot subs well in a 308
Yeah... I'm going to do that now. I never cared since it shoots 175s, 178s and 180s well. It must be a 10.
QuietShootr
12-10-11, 10:54
You ought to hear them with the can on them. I've farted louder.
You ought to hear them with the can on them. I've farted louder.
I can only imagine. Pappabear's 762 stamp should be here within a few years... :rolleyes:
QuietShootr
12-10-11, 17:01
I'm going to try some 220SMKs tomorrow. If I can get those to shoot, I will have absolutely no reason to buy a .300BLK.
Sam1002057
12-11-11, 06:19
FYI u NEED a 1/10 twist or they will come out sideways... 308 sub tracers are awsum BTW :)
For the majority of bullets this is true... however....
Its all about projectile length. I have a 1/12 twist 24" 700P. Thats why I chose the Hornady 180gr RN for my load... its very short.
It stabilizes fine and shoots accurately.
You ought to use the stability formula to predict how stable your load is... and as always confirm up close and at distance without the suppressor before threading it on and taking that first suppressed shot.
I'm going to try some 220SMKs tomorrow. If I can get those to shoot, I will have absolutely no reason to buy a .300BLK.
What is the reason for a 300blk?? :confused:
What is the reason for a 300blk?? :confused:
They are uber-quiet and cycle sub rounds out of a suppressed AR platform.
... go shoot one. You'll not ask that question anymore. They are stupid fun. I mean make you giggle like a little girl fun.
Oh no. I hope Pappabear doesn't read this. He'll buy one and I'll have to load for it! :p
What is the reason for a 300blk?? :confused:
Great fun we had Sunday!
I know you know what's up with the 300 AAC BLK. Not much comparison between a short barrel, close quarter gun with semi-auto fire, vs. a slow shooting, unwieldy bolt gun. Two different applications, but both are worthy.
I'm leaning toward a 10.5" in BLK, but the addiction costs. Especially when you add the 30 cal. can.
Plus that ATF wait. :rolleyes:
If you got one, Pappabear would let you run his can though. He should be getting his approval any time now.
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