Winchester 5.56 62gr OTM ZQ3314 for self defense [Archive]

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Nevermiss

10-29-11, 07:56

I just received an e- mail fom Midway about this round used by the FBI being available as surplus. I looked through the sticky re 5.56 duty rounds but didn't see anything about this round. Is anyone familiar with it?

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/941486/winchester-ammunition-556x45mm-nato-62-grain-zq3314-open-tip-match-box-of-20

ack495

10-29-11, 10:17

It's listed as training ammo on ammunitiontogo.com. The FBI uses both a bonded 62 and 64 grain bonded soft point for duty use. I would figure that a 62 grain OTM would provide a similar POA/POI, at a cheaper cost for high volume training.

I would think that this type of bullet would be a shallow penetrator and be inconsistent against common barriers, failing to reach the 12" minimum. You can do much better for self defense.

Probably a better choice for a cheap OTM that Doc has tested with good results:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/20rds-223-prvi-partizan-75gr-bthp-match-ammo/cName/223-556-hollow-point-ammo

mattexass

10-29-11, 10:24

It's listed as training ammo on ammunitiontogo.com. The FBI uses both a bonded 62 and 64 grain bonded soft point for duty use. I would figure that a 62 grain OTM would provide a similar POA/POI, at a cheaper cost for high volume training.

I would think that this type of bullet would be a shallow penetrator and be inconsistent against common barriers, failing to reach the 12" minimum. Not a great choice for self defense.

True. The part number you would be looking at from Winchester would be Q3313.

bp7178

10-29-11, 11:50

Probably a better choice for a cheap OTM that Doc has tested with good results:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...low-point-ammo

Not all OTMs are created equal, and the term is applied across a wide range of ammo. The Q3313 is meant to be a barrier blind load, of which the Hornady 75gr or 77gr SMK is not.

ack495

10-29-11, 17:58

Not all OTMs are created equal, and the term is applied across a wide range of ammo. The Q3313 is meant to be a barrier blind load, of which the Hornady 75gr or 77gr SMK is not.

To clarify, my suggestion to pick 75gr OTM over a 62gr, is of course, if barrier penetration is NOT a concern. Neither will be great if barriers are a concern. Just throwing out a heavier grain OTM, that is fairly cheap and has been tested by Doc, with acceptable results in bare gel testing.

mtdawg169

10-31-11, 08:22

5pins

11-07-11, 20:50

I see that Midway has more in stock. There sure isn’t a lot of info about it. The midway sight says the bullet is a lead HP with a thick copper base. So is it a training round because it did not meet the standard?

DemonRat

11-08-11, 00:30

Is that the same stuff as thishttp://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM281-1.htm . Just curious.

Todd762

07-13-12, 18:24

I posted on another thread here what I found after pulling 5 rounds. It is not a thicker copper based "barrier blind" round. It appears to be a 62gr OTM bullet. To me, the quality appears to be very nice but I don't believe it was to be a SD round.

We were issued it for training ammunition. It appears overkill for that because in the five rounds I pulled, the powder charge varied not even a tenth of a grain, the bullet not more than two tenths. I really wonder if it wasn't made for a user then after testing it didn't live up to expectations in the terminal performance department and was then put in the pipeline for similar POA/POI for other 62gr loads.