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Here's an interesting article sent to me by a friend titled Soldier's "End of the world" email send US into panic! (http://www.eutimes.net/2011/11/soldiers-end-of-the-world-email-sends-us-into-panic/) and I think it tells quite a bit of what's happening behind the scenes within our government and is very interesting on multiple levels.
An interesting Federal Security Services (FSB) report circulating in the Kremlin today states that the United States was thrown into a “panic” last week after one of its soldiers emailed his mother warning her to “prepare for the end of the world.”
According to this report, American Army Specialist William Millay [photo 2nd right], a 22-year-old military policeman from Owensboro, Kentucky, stationed at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska had “growing concerns” over the massive military buildup by the US Northern Command (NORTHCOM) of troops and equipment being secreted through his base from Afghanistan, Japan and South Korea headed towards “staging areas” throughout America.....
The FSB states in their report that Specialist Millay first came to the attention of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) after email and phone intercepts were turned over to them by the National Security Agency (NSA) detailing the exchanges between him and his mother.
After reading the transcripts of the emails and phone calls made by Specialist Millay an FBI strike team assembled in Alaska to apprehend him…and then it gets strange.
According to FSB “initial contact” sources in [deleted], this report says, a “standoff” between the FBI strike team sent to apprehend Specialist Millay and US Army personal ensued with the Army winning out and keeping him from being taken by Obama regime authorities.
Heavy Metal
11-08-11, 10:23
http://www.conservativerefocus.com/blog5.php/2011/11/07/blogosphere-going-nuts-over-william-millay-espionage-arrest-doomsday-speculated
Can't tell if this is serious or if it's tin foil type stuff...
interesting to say the least...
Can't tell if this is serious or if it's tin foil type stuff...
He is an MP being charged with attempted espionage, although the reports say "unclassified material". Here's 1 article but there are over 400 more with a little Googling. http://bostonherald.com/news/national/west/view/20111108army_charges_soldier_with_attempted_espionage
I think it's fairly interesting stuff from multiple different perspectives.
montanadave
11-08-11, 11:01
Asteroids, military coups, Mayan calendars, and testing the national EBS system.
It's like a tin-foil hat lollapalooza.
Somehow I think I'd better still pay the cable bill.
From the .Mil http://www.jber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123279102
The charges are in connection with a joint investigation on Spc. Millay by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Army Counterintelligence and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
General nature of charges:
Attempted Espionage: Spc. William C. Millay communicated and transmitted unclassified national defense information to an individual whom he believed was a foreign intelligence agent, with the intent to aid a foreign nation. Millay had access to the information through the course of his normal duties both stateside and on a previous deployment, and although the information was unclassified, Millay believed that it could be used to the advantage of a foreign nation.
Have to read the whole thing later. Kind of odd, don't really remember any kind of panic last week. It all sounds a bit tin foil hat to me, though I don't rule anything out completely.
Have to read the whole thing later. Kind of odd, don't really remember any kind of panic last week. It all sounds a bit tin foil hat to me, though I don't rule anything out completely.
agreed. i specifically remember that the kremlin publicly stated that the 2008 elections were going to be canceled by the pentagon and dubya would enact martial law...oh and that some swedish army officer can prove that a low yield tactical nuke downed WTC 7.
*of course, it was all published on pravda.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-08-11, 12:18
It is weird that you have the first nationwide test of the EAS system just when an asteroid comes between the earth and moon.
Asteroids, military coups, Mayan calendars, and testing the national EBS system.
It's like a tin-foil hat lollapalooza.
Somehow I think I'd better still pay the cable bill.
Yep. There is no money in total collapse, the government would never allow that.
Doc Safari
11-08-11, 12:48
Warning. You are being spammed in an attempt to induce Doomsday overload in your mind. When you have reached a saturation point and can no longer believe such things could happen in America, then they will strike for real.
Or so I heard on the shortwave the other night. :sarcastic:
Reagans Rascals
11-08-11, 12:53
From the .Mil http://www.jber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123279102
How was Army Counter Intel involved in a joint investigation if the Army won the "stand off" with the FBI to prevent him being taken?
I believe this is where I follow Joe Dirt and claim this as a nunamaker
PrivateCitizen
11-08-11, 12:54
Shit. There go ammo prices.
Shit. There go ammo prices.
Only if we believe.
Moose-Knuckle
11-09-11, 13:05
Operation Rex 84, Operation Cable Splicer, Operation Garden Plot. . .no there is nothing going on, all is well. :rolleyes:
For those who still think all this is fiction, have you ever read any of the POTUS EOs?
Here is just one. . .
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/president-obama-signs-executive-order-establishing-council-governors
turdbocharged
11-09-11, 13:27
Well as long as he doesn't sign Executive Order 66 we're all good.
I know this friend whos friend said his friends friend said it was real !
so must be it on the interwrong :)
Most things even this I read do a bit of research and see whats up
but put only so much % of my efforts into worrying ? this one is pretty low on the lists ! I fear a 2nd term of obama much worse ? which would be the end of the US as we know it and welcome the USsr style of a US
Moose-Knuckle
11-09-11, 18:43
I fear a 2nd term of obama much worse ? which would be the end of the US as we know it and welcome the USsr style of a US
I think many are of the same frame of mind.
I hope we see another election. But according to laws that are on the books currently we could see a Constitutional Dictatorship in the US. All it would take would be a "terrorists attack" or some devastating "natural disaster" for the various EOs to be signed into law, then bye-bye Constitution.
http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20020607.html
Gutshot John
11-09-11, 19:07
The notion that a President can simply create/sign an EO to create a dictatorship is goofball tinfoil hat nonsense in the extreme.
EOs on their own only govern the activities of members of the Executive Branch. The average citizen is no more bound to comply with an EO than a Frenchman EXCEPT when it refers to a law already created by Congress.
If the law is created by Congress...than it's by definition law...and not a dictatorship.
I'm dismayed that so many people who claim to be Constitutionalists neither understand statutory nor administrative law.
Does this mean the EOs haven't been abused and don't present real problems and shouldn't be reformed? Absolutely not there are indeed genuine criticisms of how EOs are used but reform becomes difficult when people make outlandish claims that are easily dismissed.
Moose-Knuckle
11-09-11, 20:48
EOs on their own only govern the activities of members of the Executive Branch. The average citizen is no more bound to comply with an EO than a Frenchman EXCEPT when it refers to a law already created by Congress.
If the law is created by Congress...than it's by definition law...and not a dictatorship.
In a perfect world, you are correct. As per the United States Constitution Article I, Section 1.
"All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives."
But. . .
"Since the enactment of Executive Order 11490, the only thing standing between us and dictatorship is the good character of the President, and the lack of a crisis severe enough that the public would stand still for it." - Howard J. Ruff.
Here is a most informative paper on the matter.
http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon5.html
Gutshot John
11-09-11, 21:08
Here is a most informative paper on the matter.
http://dmc.members.sonic.net/sentinel/gvcon5.html
"Informative" is in the eye of the beholder. Who are the authors? What are their qualifications? What is the peer review?
Just because it exists on the internet doesn't not make it true. For instance I can easily publish an article claiming the moon is made of green cheese.
As for EO 11490, even if it allowed for creating a dictatorship (which it doesn't)...read the most important part:
"SEC. 105 Construction.
The purpose and legal effect of the assignments contained in this order do not constitute authority to implement the emergency plans prepared pursuant to this order. Plans so developed may be effectuated only in the event that authority for such effectuation is provided by a law enacted by the Congress or by an order or directive issued by the President pursuant to statutes or the Constitution of the United States."
You do know what a statute is right? It basically means EO 11490 cannot be implemented by the President alone...it requires the approval of Congress.
In short the article is written by someone either woefully ignorant or pathologically dishonest.
Moose-Knuckle
11-09-11, 21:47
"Informative" is in the eye of the beholder. Who are the authors? What are their qualifications? What is the peer review?
Just because it exists on the internet doesn't not make it true. For instance I can easily publish an article claiming the moon is made of green cheese.
As for EO 11490, even if it allowed for creating a dictatorship (which it doesn't)...read the most important part:
"SEC. 105 Construction.
The purpose and legal effect of the assignments contained in this order do not constitute authority to implement the emergency plans prepared pursuant to this order. Plans so developed may be effectuated only in the event that authority for such effectuation is provided by a law enacted by the Congress or by an order or directive issued by the President pursuant to statutes or the Constitution of the United States."
You do know what a statute is right? It basically means EO 11490 cannot be implemented by the President alone...it requires the approval of Congress.
In short the article is written by someone either woefully ignorant or pathologically dishonest.
By your logic because you are on the internet and I don't know your qualifications anything you post here on the error-net is non-sense. If you want to believe in a benevolent .gov then that is your right sir. As for me, I grow ever suspect of the power of our Federal Government.
BTT.
My local news has picked up the story.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/national/133400823.html
Gutshot John
11-09-11, 22:05
By your logic because you are on the internet and I don't know your qualifications anything you post here on the error-net is non-sense.
Except the burden of proof is NOT on ME to prove to you that you're wrong (it's logically impossible to prove a negative)...the burden of proof is on YOU to prove to me that you're right.
Extraordinary claims require an even greater level of proof...some idiot on the internet doesn't count.
This is the essence of critical thought.
If you want to believe in a benevolent .gov then that is your right sir. As for me, I grow ever suspect of the power of our Federal Government.
And you either didn't read what I wrote or blatantly misinterpreting it. I didn't say you should trust our government...nor did I say it was wholly benevolent. I didn't even say that EO's are beyond criticism.
I did say that when you cite bullshit websites to back up absurd claims that the President can simply wave his hand and create a dictatorship....then you lose credibility. This is unfortunate because legitimate criticisms of executive power and EOs get lumped together with the goofball nonsense of tin-foil wackadoodles.
Moose-Knuckle
11-10-11, 02:51
Except the burden of proof is NOT on ME to prove to you that you're wrong (it's logically impossible to prove a negative)...the burden of proof is on YOU to prove to me that you're right.
Extraordinary claims require an even greater level of proof...some idiot on the internet doesn't count.
This is the essence of critical thought.
As usual you are turning a discussion into something personal. I don't bite. I do not have to prove anything to you nor can I convey to you how much that I do not care if you believe anything I post or not.
Critical thinking spikes my spidey sense when I read through the various EOs and their implications. I don't need to hear a State of the Union address to know or not the ill intentions of a sitting President.
And you either didn't read what I wrote or blatantly misinterpreting it. I didn't say you should trust our government...nor did I say it was wholly benevolent. I didn't even say that EO's are beyond criticism.
I did say that when you cite bullshit websites to back up absurd claims that the President can simply wave his hand and create a dictatorship....then you lose credibility. This is unfortunate because legitimate criticisms of executive power and EOs get lumped together with the goofball nonsense of tin-foil wackadoodles.
What is unfortunate is that if someone does not conform to the same thought processes as others and the spoon feeding of mass information they are labeled as "tin-foil wackadoodles" when in reality they have legitimate concerns of the abuse of powers.
For the sake of our Republic, I hope that you are right John.
As for the flip side of the coin, what if the Congress has either been compromised and or duped into the suspension of the Constitution in the name of "National Security". . .
VooDoo6Actual
11-10-11, 09:36
More on the topic here.
What a challenge trying to cut through to the truth rather than the spin....
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4967
Doc Safari
11-10-11, 09:41
When unemployment is about 25% and basic necessities like water, gasoline, and even food are either scarce or prohibitively expensive, the American people will accept a dictatorship willingly and enthusiastically whether it is technically "legal" according to a bunch of documents or not.
I'm not saying we are headed that way for sure, but if those conditions exist, people will submit voluntarily.
Moose-Knuckle
11-10-11, 18:04
More on the topic here.
What a challenge trying to cut through to the truth rather than the spin....
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4967
Good read, thanks for sharing. I'd like to have been a fly on the wall when the FBI tac team showed up at the gates and the Army was like um yeah **** off. :D
What is unfortunate is that if someone does not conform to the same thought processes as others and the spoon feeding of mass information they are labeled as "tin-foil wackadoodles" when in reality they have legitimate concerns of the abuse of powers.
For the sake of our Republic, I hope that you are right John.
As for the flip side of the coin, what if the Congress has either been compromised and or duped into the suspension of the Constitution in the name of "National Security". . .
:rolleyes:
They get labelled as "tin-foil wackadoodles" because "not conforming to the same thought processes" involves extreme views only backed up by "alien autopsy" type sources and defended with logical fallacy. They then retreat to the usual hiding place of the "tin-foil wackadoodle," the "not being spoon fed by the MAN" defense. They also resort to defending their lack of credentialed sources and logical fallacious thought processes by implying those who don't agree with their "tin-foil wackadoodle" conspiracy theory malarkey are simply narrow-minded and incapable of independent thought.
Moose-Knuckle
11-10-11, 21:49
:rolleyes:
They get labelled as "tin-foil wackadoodles" because "not conforming to the same thought processes" involves extreme views only backed up by "alien autopsy" type sources and defended with logical fallacy. They then retreat to the usual hiding place of the "tin-foil wackadoodle," the "not being spoon fed by the MAN" defense. They also resort to defending their lack of credentialed sources and logical fallacious thought processes by implying those who don't agree with their "tin-foil wackadoodle" conspiracy theory malarkey are simply narrow-minded and incapable of independent thought.
Speaking of "narrow minded" and being "incapable of independent thought". . .;)
After review of my above posts, where did I ever say anything against anyone who doesn't agree with me? You, and those like you are the ones that turn every single thread into a dick measuring contest when you read something you don't like, cannot comprehend, and or don't agree with.
As I told John, you and anyone else have the right to believe whatever you want. I really could give a shit.
More on the topic here.
What a challenge trying to cut through to the truth rather than the spin....
http://presscore.ca/2011/?p=4967
if i read that correctly, the g-men were denied entry at the base. i would have not wanted to be the MP on duty at the guard shack that day! I don't know what the security environment at Elmendorf is like, but on the morning of the final shuttle launch , Patrick AFB seemed quite relaxed, vehicles were coming and going with ease.
*Also, the article mentioned questions of the NSA monitoring emails...I am assuming the process involves keyword searches and defined IP/proxy locations. I didnt see any mention of whether the emails were sent from his US Army email account of a private gmail/hotmail/etc account. If sent from his US Army account, there would then be no expectation of privacy, correct? Ones rights as a soldier are a bit different from those of some random dude, would that be correct?
As I told John, you and anyone else have the right to believe whatever you want. I really could give a shit.
True, you too are free to believe in whatever you want, even it doesn't have a basis in reality.
VooDoo6Actual
11-10-11, 22:32
if i read that correctly, the g-men were denied entry at the base. i would have not wanted to be the MP on duty at the guard shack that day! I don't know what the security environment at Elmendorf is like, but on the morning of the final shuttle launch , Patrick AFB seemed quite relaxed, vehicles were coming and going with ease.
*Also, the article mentioned questions of the NSA monitoring emails...I am assuming the process involves keyword searches and defined IP/proxy locations. I didnt see any mention of whether the emails were sent from his US Army email account of a private gmail/hotmail/etc account. If sent from his US Army account, there would then be no expectation of privacy, correct? Ones rights as a soldier are a bit different from those of some random dude, would that be correct?
Yes, you are spot
The spin I'm referring to involves the ALLEDGED espionage charges by you guessed it our very own presstitutes... Ta Da.....
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