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m24shooter
11-25-07, 17:20
The 930 SPX is loaded with features that attracted me to it, and the price was a bargain compared to what a comparable package would cost from Remington or Benelli, which are the other two tactical shotguns that I have experience with and was considering for a semiauto shotgun purchase. The 930 SPX model is quite different from the 930 Home Defense, and the differences are immediately noticeable. In spite of these, there is a lot of commonality in the parts of the SPX, the Home Defense, and other recreational 930 variants. Mossberg took the 930 receiver and synthetic stocks, and added the 18.5 Home Defense barrel, LPA ghost rings sights, and a Picatinny rail to produce the SPX.
The shotgun is very light. This is due to the aluminum receiver used, although the barrel and chamber are steel. The weight coupled with the short 18.5” barrel make the 930 extremely maneuverable. It feels quite different from my 590A1 with its 20” barrel. I would imagine that with a shorter LOP stock it would be very handy in the restrictive indoor setting or if you wear a PC, or even if you are wearing a heavy coat. Like other Mossbergs, it comes with the stock spacers that will allow the angle of the stock to be changed. The barrel and receiver are finished in a flat matte black finish, and the stocks are black synthetic.
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The magazine extension that allows 8 rounds to be loaded in the SPX is flush with the end of the barrel. It is produced by Choate, and has the floating plastic button end-cap. The nut area of the extension is well knurled. There is not a detent that secures the extension to the barrel band although the rear edge of the extension is set up to do so. For some reason, Mossberg neglected to install some form of forward sling attachment point. I intend on using a 590 sling point that installs between the extension and the barrel ring. Even fully loaded at seven rounds in the mag and with the steel extension out front, the shotgun still balances well for me, and did not feel nose heavy.
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One of the best features of the SPX is the sights. This is among the best of the ghost ring sight units that I’ve used, certainly for a stock direct from the factory shotgun. Mossberg chose the LPA ghost ring sights from Italy and hit the ball out of the park as far as I’m concerned. The front is described as M16 style, and is a raised tower type unit that appears to be welded onto the barrel at the muzzle, and has protective ears and a red fiber optic insert. Honestly, I’m not a big fan of fiber optic sights, and I’ll switch this out for a tritium unit. Lots of people love the fiber optic sights, and my dealer said I should keep them when I mentioned wanting to change them. The fiber optic requires too much light for me, and worse requires it around you in order to be seen. I would prefer the self-luminous tritium and the big white circle around the vial to be able to pick out the front sight blade in lower light levels where I am not in a lot of light.
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The rear sight is a detachable ghost ring unit, again with thick protective ears to either side. It is very sturdily constructed and sits on the Picatinny rail mounted to the top of the receiver. The sight is adjustable for both windage and elevation using a small standard screwdriver. The elevation is adjusted forward of the rear aperture and is very clearly marked “UP.” The windage is adjusted by a cross screw that drives the aperture left and right similar to the M16 rear sight. It too is marked; an “R” with direction arrow is placed above the adjustment screw on the right side of the assembly. There is also a witness mark and adjustment scale at the rear aperture for visual reference when zeroing, and I suppose this would be handy if you ever needed to move the sight to make sure you could return to BZO. I think the markings might be a little small for indexing them with your own witness marks as is often done with the M16 or AR15 type sight. The markings are very clearly laid out in a high contrast white. The adjustments are positive, with audible and tactile clicks. It does require a conscious effort to move the sight aperture, and you will certainly notice when you are doing so. The sight is removable, and uses a captured thumbnut on the left side of the assembly. It has a slot for using a flat-bladed driver to secure or loosen it. Unless you really intend on taking the sight off and putting it back on a lot, I would LocTite the thing.
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The sight picture is very clear, and gives the impression of sighting through goal posts. The fiber optic picks up the ambient light, but as I stated I’m looking for just a little more. The ghost ring aperture is substantial enough to not be dainty and easily damaged, but not overly large so that it becomes self-defeating with too much obstruction or distraction.
The Picatinny rail is mounted on the top of the receiver with 4 small screws. It appears to be in spec, with no problems mounting any of my Pic rail stuff that I had on hand. This is a very nice platform for optics if you chose to put one on the SPX.
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Working on around the receiver, there is a typical Mossberg tang-mounted safety. While the position is great for conventional stocks, the rumored after-market pistol grip unit might make this difficult. ***UPDATE: Choate advised that the PG stock for the 930 will be available by the end of February 2008.*** Regardless, the standard safety button is that atrocious plastic version. This will definitely be changed out for either the enlarged butterfly or Vang metal safety buttons.
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The charging handle is the typical pull-out type, with an oval bearing surface. On a tactical gun I would prefer this to be a little larger, along the lines of the squared Choate unit so that the handle can be manipulated from underneath the shotgun easily. ***UPDATE: The good people at Choate will be producing a 930 version and advised that they expected this to be released by the end of February 2008.*** The bolt locks positively to the rear on empty, and does not dislodge when the shotgun is given an aggressive series of bumps on the floor.
The bolt release is well placed, and is substantial enough to be easily found by touch. The size allows for positive feel even through gloves. It is also used as a quick unload button by pushing the elevator up towards the bottom of the bolt and pushing the bolt release. This allows the first shell in the mag tube to be released from the stops and removed from the loading port.
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The magazine tube spring at this point is acceptable, although I would like to see the last round forced out with a little more authority. The follower is acceptable as well, and is a metal (steel?) cup-type. I was able to create a bind on it by intentionally using poor loading procedures. A quick vertical bump on the floor freed the follower and returned the rounds to the ready with the follower in battery. A non-binding hi-vis nylon follower will replace the stock unit soon.
The trigger guard appears to be metal, which I am glad to see. The elevator is a solid flap, with a scalloped cut on the front edge. It moves freely, but I would like very much to see a cut made in the body of the elevator, so that a shell that either flies free of the shell stops or that does not get fully engaged upon loading can be pushed back into the mag tube with a tool.
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There is a cocking indicator inside the forward edge of the trigger guard. I guess this might benefit some, and would lend itself to verifying that the shotgun is in the semi-auto version of cruiser ready if you need that sort of thing.
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The stocks are about what I would expect for standard factory units. They retain the sporting look of the 930 recreational shotguns. The rear stock has an integral sling point along the bottom edge. I am not a fan of this. I would prefer a standard metal button. The recoil pad is very substantial. It is soft enough to slow down the shotgun, but not overly so. It is chamfered at the heel slightly, and my only complaint is that at the heel there is a slight gap. This looks like it is due to the recoil pad screw being just a little higher than it should be with this pad, and there is enough “slop” in the pad to allow it to pull away from the toe of the stock.
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The foreend is also of the sporting variety, and its lineage shows. The rear edge of the foreend overhangs the forward edge of the receiver. It is rather blocky along the bottom of the receiver, and in my opinion interferes slightly with rapid loading through the port. The bottom of the stock protrudes below the level of the receiver, and I would rather that part of the foreend either be removed or be scalloped/tapered back so that there is more clearance around the loading port. For whatever reason, there is also some very noticeable vertical movement in the rear of the foreend. ***UPDATE: I took the 930 completely apart to clean it. After reassembling the shotgun and really clamping down on the extension there is much less movement in the foreend. I would say that it is at an acceptable level. After adding a Wilson Combat vertical sling point this movement has been all but eliminated. But I still want it beveled.
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Finally, a comparison between the 590A1 barrel and the 930 SPX.
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Overall, I have been very impressed with the SPX. It provides a lot of extra features on a shotgun chassis that has already shown a high degree of reliability. So while the SPX variant is new, the 930 has been around for a while. It can often be found for around $500, which is a steal when you consider that the sights alone run about $200. The tactical features added to the basic sport model of shotgun make this a very competitive entry, and show that Mossberg made some good choices compared to the 500 and 590 shotguns, which lack the ability to increase or decrease magazine capacity. The ghost rings on the SPX are simpler and more robust than the factory set on my 590A1. I am very much looking forward to being able to start putting rounds downrange soon.
I did get a chance to put a few rounds through it today. No problems with light loads (quail and trap loads), reduced recoil tac loads (Rem and Fed), up to full power Remington buck and Brenneke slugs. Didn't have time to pattern it, but I'm going to try to get around to that over the weekend.
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k9dpd
12-06-07, 22:21
I am thinking about buying one of these, any regrets

m24shooter
12-07-07, 06:25
Nope, no regrets.
I've got a more detailed and current review at WEVO:
http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167

Stan_TheGunNut
12-07-07, 16:42
Great review. Nice pictures and the right amount of detail. I too am considering purchasing one of these shotguns. Thanks for taking the time to write about yours.

m24shooter
12-07-07, 20:40
Great review. Nice pictures and the right amount of detail. I too am considering purchasing one of these shotguns. Thanks for taking the time to write about yours.
Thanks, I appreciate it. When I was researching buying one, I could find the typical sticker/book info, which was incredibly bland from Mossberg. I was getting some good info from guys who had them on various boards, but it still wasn't quite everything that I was looking for and it would be fairly obnoxious to itemize out everything I ended up putting in my review and asking them about it. I didn't know anybody close by that had one. So I sucked it up and bought one, and did the review based on what I wanted to know about it and details that I discovered after I got it.

DANGER CLOSE
12-09-07, 22:35
real good review, i have a m590a1 and i have been on the lookout for a simple and low priced semi-auto. this indeed could be it. thnking about getting into some three gun with it. do you know if there are any pistol gripped stocks and or collapsible ones available?

RWK
12-10-07, 19:37
Is anyone making a Sidesaddle-like shell carrier for the 930 SPX?

mike240
12-10-07, 21:08
I am not aware of one yet, but I needed to use the SPX in a 3gun match...so I took the one off my 870 and used self adhesive velco and stuck it on there....thats how "3Gun Gear" shell carriers go on. It has worked for me, at least in a pinch. How it will clean off when someone make one for it, I don't know.

This is a great running shotgun though. And yes, I have used Benellis M1 and M3 s at work and had 1100s too.

m24shooter
12-13-07, 21:25
Choate will have the PG stock and enlarged bolt handle (like the 1187 version) by the end of February.
No sidesaddles yet. I am using one of the buttstock pouches on mine for now. I'm hoping that there is enough interest in the SPX for somebody to make one.

thetallengineer
02-03-08, 00:09
I'm very interested in this shotgun, could you provide an update on your round count, what ammo you've tried, any issues etc.

m24shooter
02-03-08, 18:29
If I had to guess I would put total rounds at about 1000-1200.
A lot of that was old game and trap loads, which provided the only malf I have experienced. I think it was an old WalMart value pack #6 or 7 low brass. Gave me a stovepipe. Operated the bolt and it was back in action.
Of the buckshot, most has been Fed Tac 9 pellet. It is very smooth with this and the Remington RR loadings. Full power #4, 00, and 000 from Federal and Remington function fine. I had a few rounds of #1, but all I can really say about them is that they functioned. Best pattern right now seems to be the 9 pellet Fed Tac, but I really want to try some of the 8 pellet as I hear it will make non-Vang barrels shoot like they've been Vang comped. Remington 00 is the best of the full power buck I have shot.
For slugs I ran some of the Remington RR slugs, Brenneke Rottweil and KO slugs, and some Winchester 3" slugs. All of these ran well. The 3" Winny was noticeably more robust. There was little difference in the 2.75" slugs whether RR or full powered. I also want to try some of the Tru Ball slugs.

thetallengineer
02-03-08, 22:00
Thank you for your excellent report and review. Now I just need to find one to buy at a price I like.

DamnYank!
03-06-08, 06:19
what kind of prices are you guys finding these for? and where? best i've found so far is in the 575 range out the door...

thanks!

popodaman
04-04-08, 03:46
m24shooter, I hope you don't mind. I posted this in DMR's thread on TOS.

*****Posted on "TOS"*****

I hope you don't mind me posting a range session I had with the 930 toady. I purchased a New In The Box 930SPX at the local CopShop (GT Distirbutors in Rossville, Ga) yesterday and decided that after reading your post that I would try and see how this little Mossberg would do.

Went by the Wally World to buy some cheap shells (100 round Federal Value Pack), 15 round of Remington Sluggers, and some left over Winchester #7 and 1/2 birdshot from the last 3 Gun Match. 158 Rounds Total.

Got set up at the range threw some CLP on the bolt and loaded 8 rounds in the gun. Settled in behind the sights and found the Fiber-Optic front sight easy to pick up (nice and bright, even in the last few hours of the day), but the rear LPA Ghost Ring seemed to fad away, it could be a little thicker. A good sight picture was still possible. I fired off the first 8 rounds fairly quick at 7 yards (Fairly quick? Had to call myself on this one, the 930 was as fast as any Benelli M1 I've ever fired.). The 930 was very manageable, the recoil was no more than 11-87's that I have fired in the past and actually less brutal than the Benelli. Functioned perfectly. The IDPA Target that I used didn't stand a chance and was blown out of the plastic push stand with the first round.

I loaded up some Remington 2 and 3/4" Sluggers and tried to print a group at 25 yards. With a fresh target installed I had a nice little 2" group and had to adjust down and to the left. The full powered Slugs functioned great with a small amount more recoil than the birdshot. But then again, I weigh 270, may not be the same for some of the more leaner folks out there.

My 17 year old Son had a little bit of trouble shooting with the birdshot. He was not providing a good enough base for the shotgun to function properly and he encountered a few Failures to Extract. I told him to tighten up on the gun since we were shooting the lighter game loads. Problem solved. We resumed Blasting!

We would let the 930 take a break from time to time and do some pistol and carbine work. Then I thought I would see how this thing react to a constant (as much as possible) rate of fire. So we set out 40 round of the birdshot and loaded up 8 rounds in the gun, with the remaining 32 on the table. I started firing the first 8 and on the last round had a FTE. I loaded the rest of the shells, requiring 4 other strings of fire, as fast as I could and kept the 930 running. Oh, and yes, it was HOT! I feel that if I had been firing buckshot or slugs (standard velocity) for this test, I would not have had the Extraction Failure.

All in all. I am impressed. I would have never thought I would be saying this about a Mossberg.

If the tactical accessory manufactures would get behind this Shotgun and create a support base of necessary Add-On's, we could have a well put together, Auto-Loading Patrol Shotty/ HD Platform for a reasonable price.

Just My .02

Just a little back ground on myself. I have been doing LE Work for the last 17 years as a patrolman in Tennessee as a Firearms Instructor and Sniper and now in Georgia. I have always been a Remington/Benelli guy when it came to Shotguns. Well my opinion has changed some what after today. Not saying I am totally throwing out the Remmy or Benelli, but the 930 has alot of potential.

Besides, and most important thing is I got to spend the afternoon with my Son, who's been shooting with me since he was 3 years old, enjoying and sharing a sport that has been a part of my life for over 30 years. And hopefully, one day, he will be able to do the same thing with his Son.

Take Care and Stay Safe

Duane

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decodeddiesel
04-04-08, 17:58
Fun read m24shooter and popodaman, I have had a hook in me for a new shotgun and the 930 is starting to look really nice. It's coming down to a 4417 (870 police), M1 super 90, or this 930 SPX. The SPX is starting to win me over. I wish I could shoot one to help me make my decision.

m24shooter
04-04-08, 20:03
m24shooter, I hope you don't mind. I posted this in DMR's thread on TOS.

No prob. I've got the same review up on TOS, and review that I keep up to date is over at WEVO.

Marubahoppie
05-22-08, 17:23
Brilliant .