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DivineAngel
11-20-11, 19:53
Hi, my fiance really wants an AR 15 Carbine, and I have no clue where to begin in looking for which one to buy, so I'm hoping I can get some help on here. Thanks in advance!
DeltaSierra
11-20-11, 20:05
This thread should help you.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=6642
If you have questions of an even more technical nature after reading through that thread, these should keep you busy for a while.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7376
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7355
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=7009
Just keep in mind that many of the members here have actual operation experience with these weapons, and they know of which they speak.
Welcome to M4Carbine.net! You have come to the right place to learn about serious use ARs. It's simple once you understand it, but the journey can take awhile. I would not presume how much firearms experience you have, but there is much to be absorbed.
What I would recommend is that you contact C4IGrant. He sells ARs, AR parts and accessories through the G&R Tactical website. He is very knowledgeable and is dedicated to selling his customers what they need & want rather than just selling something just because it's what he has on hand. He is also known to recommend going to one of his competitors if they can serve the customer better.
To view Grant's profile, click here http://m4carbine.net/member.php?u=2
Send him a PM with your questions. He's good about answering.
Here's a link to G&R Tactical webpage http://www.gandrtactical.com/
Grant isn't the only one who can help you, but he's a great place to start and won't steer you wrong.
Good luck with your project. Your fiance is very lucky! Hope you stay with us here on the forum!
DivineAngel
11-21-11, 08:31
Thanks so much!
Welcome to the forum! Let us know if we can help with anything.
C4
JackFanToM
11-21-11, 11:00
Easy answer, get a rifle from Grant. Good prices, great service, and unlike most gun stores...Grant shoots what he sells, so he knows what is what with his merchandise. Besides, if you are like me, you want to give your hard earned cash to someone who earns it, and is a hella nice guy to boot.
Failure2Stop
11-21-11, 15:51
The first and most important thing is to establish a budget.
Let us (or Grant) know how much you are planning on spending (total) on this. This should include all accessories, from slings to magazines.
Of course, the larger the budget, the easier the solution, but $1500 can get you pretty far if you are purpose-driven, and about $1000 will at least put a functioning, usable rifle in your hands.
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 21:36
So I got my fiance a Bushmaster Carbon-15 M4 Flat Top Carbine, 16 inch with a red dot sight, and he's thrilled! I'm wondering if anyone on here is in WV and would know the laws on where he could shoot it (if he doesn't want to go to a range) or if anyone knows if I can find out online. So far the searches on Google haven't helped...
Help me out here. You came to the site, asked for opinions and then didn't show back up. Then you purchased one of the worst AR's on the market. I don't get it.
So I got my fiance a Bushmaster Carbon-15 M4 Flat Top Carbine, 16 inch with a red dot sight, and he's thrilled! I'm wondering if anyone on here is in WV and would know the laws on where he could shoot it (if he doesn't want to go to a range) or if anyone knows if I can find out online. So far the searches on Google haven't helped...
ContractSoldier
12-28-11, 21:42
So I got my fiance a Bushmaster Carbon-15 M4 Flat Top Carbine, 16 inch with a red dot sight, and he's thrilled! I'm wondering if anyone on here is in WV and would know the laws on where he could shoot it (if he doesn't want to go to a range) or if anyone knows if I can find out online. So far the searches on Google haven't helped...
Congrats on your new rifle, best people to ask about your local and state laws, would be to give your local police or sheriff office a call, they will be able to tell you all you need to know.
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 21:47
Iraqgunz Help out here. You came to the site, asked for opinions and then didn't show back up. Then you purchased one of the worst AR's on the market. I don't get it.
I'm sorry, I don't see where you offered helpful advice? Why are they the worst? I did do research and I work with a girl who's in the reserves, who helped me the most, so I thought I was getting help from reliable sources?
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 21:48
Congrats on your new rifle, best people to ask about your local and state laws, would be to give your local police or sheriff office a call, they will be able to tell you all you need to know.
Thanks, I work next door to the county's Sheriff's Office so I may run over tomorrow and ask. Thanks again!
I hope your fiancee enjoys it. Good luck.
Iraqgunz Help out here. You came to the site, asked for opinions and then didn't show back up. Then you purchased one of the worst AR's on the market. I don't get it.
I'm sorry, I don't see where you offered helpful advice? Why are they the worst? I did do research and I work with a girl who's in the reserves, who helped me the most, so I thought I was getting help from reliable sources?
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 21:52
I hope your fiancee enjoys it. Good luck.
Thanks, I figure it's his first one, so this will determine exactly what kind of gun is his favorite. And if it is a bad choice, at least I'm not out a lot of money!
Okay. Which one of you opened a new account and started this thread to pull everyone's leg?
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 21:58
Okay. Which one of you opened a new account and started this thread to pull everyone's leg?
I'm sorry? What do you mean?
Divine,
As you may be gathering, the Carbon 15, while a neat concept, is not well-loved among M4 enthusiasts who are into "working" carbines. The odd reactions your getting are based on coming onto a "professional/serious enthusiast" forum, asking some decent questions that should've gotten you aimed in kind of the right direction, and then proudly announcing that you got one of the guns that would've been -not- recommended by this crew.
Does it mean the gun won't serve your fiancée's needs, or that he doesn't love it? No. But you asked for the collective opinion here...and you've now received it.
wow
I hate threads like this.
The cycle is ridiculous
DivineAngel
12-28-11, 22:11
Divine,
As you may be gathering, the Carbon 15, while a neat concept, is not well-loved among M4 enthusiasts who are into "working" carbines. The odd reactions your getting are based on coming onto a "professional/serious enthusiast" forum, asking some decent questions that should've gotten you aimed in kind of the right direction, and then proudly announcing that you got one of the guns that would've been -not- recommended by this crew.
Does it mean the gun won't serve your fiancée's needs, or that he doesn't love it? No. But you asked for the collective opinion here...and you've now received it.
Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me. You live and learn right? Seriously, I know it's hard to decipher tones over the computer, but I appreciate the replies, harsh and helpful.
TunaFisherman
12-28-11, 23:28
WOW a Bushmaster,,,and a Carbon Bushmaster...someone did not do their research. These "I need help buying a AR" threads never cease to amaze me. This has to be someones idea of a bad joke thread.
TacMedic556
12-29-11, 00:34
as an old firefighter I once worked with would say in times as this, "SOMEONE PUT A TENT ON THIS CIRCUS!"
Must be a joke though right? No way someone read all there is on here and went with the gun that has a coiled snake on it.
Completely, utterly, 100% translucent.
RogerinTPA
12-29-11, 21:51
Welcome to M4C DevineAngel.
1st, don't ever listen to anyone in the military or law enforcement (FYI, I'm retired Army) about firearms unless they are in a SOF type unit that actually hunts down and shoots people on a daily basis, or used to.
2d, don't take offense to previous comments. This is a rough crowd that, although our hearts are in the right place, the delivery can be quite abrasive to those that are uninformed or those that spread hearsay. (You need a thick skin, don't take it personal).
3d, sorry that you didn't listen to some of the members advise and do some research on this forum before your recent purchase. You would have made a more quality purchase backed by sage advice, and no one would have been able to BS you into buying a lesser quality weapon.
4th, a lot of folks here shoot, and I mean a lot... as a serious hobby, on their home ranges and attend formal instruction. I normally shoot 17-20K rounds a year, and I'm probably in the minority. Some are still in harms way and use this weapon on a daily basis. A lot are ex-military, active/reserve/NG, LEOs and like minded civilian enthusiast. Most folks here are 'switched on' about most things related to firearms, gear, ammo, tactics, training, and everything else related. Most do not think all ARs are created equal and consider ARs fighting weapons, not range toys.
5th, we learn from each others experiences and share that knowledge for the benefit of it's members, and with anyone else who wishes to truly learn. 1st hand experiences only, again not hearsay from a neighbors, gunstore employees, uncles, former this/that, or internet rumor.
Finally, I hope your fiance enjoys his very cool gift from you and invite you both to learn all you can about that weapon, and how to, should the need arise, effectively employ it. Stick around, read a lot and learn something.
DivineAngel - Welcome to the forum. Do stick around, lurk for a while and do some reading, or at least get your significant other to do so. You will learn a lot just by random reading of threads, and learn the proper terminology, and acronyms commonly used here. It will also help to give you criteria on properly using the search function with a little success. The stickies in the top of each sub forum are a huge help in the learning curve.
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2d, don't take offense to previous comments. This is a rough crowd that, although our hearts are in the right place, the delivery can be quite abrasive to those that are uninformed or those that spread hearsay. (You need a thick skin, don't take it personal)....
There really should be a warning in the new membership registration that clearly states that.
The time honored tradition for those who wish to share their experiences and help others learn... "The only stupid question is the one that is not asked" absolutely does not apply here at M4C.
Those questions are met with profanity, accusations of being a troll, insults, flaming, butt chewing for not using the orange search button, then eventually someone will man up and answer the question in a civil and helpful manner. This is presuming that the person asking the question did not meet first 5 responses in the same manner and were banned by a trigger happy moderator.
Yeah, I'm ****in' new here, and to the world of ARs. I too have a lot of questions, and am trying to learn from members of a forum that I was referred to on another forum (like most new members). There seems to be a large number of members here that would rather fling expletives, than keep their fingers off the keyboard, or actually help contribute to the topic at hand.
I have to give DivineAngel credit for not taking offense.
Hang in there Angel, everyone is entitled to their mistakes and to learn from them. Don't let us curmudgeons run you off. Won't be long before you tell us how you've added a Colt/BCM/DD to the home armory for serious use
Failure2Stop
12-30-11, 14:41
The item has been purchased, the gift has been given, and advice has been delivered.
There is nothing good to come from the continuation of this thread.
Divine Angel, it's great to see a female buying a firearm for her fiance, regardless of make or model. If you seek additional information that cannot be found with research, please let us know, and we invite your fiance to drop in to learn more about the platform.
Have a happy holiday and good shooting.
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