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I am looking at getting either a Bell and Carlson Medalist or HS precision stock for a sporter weight barrel Rem 700.
Does the aluminum bedding block extend into the forearm on these two stocks and does the front sling swivel screw into the aluminum if it does?
QuietShootr
11-24-11, 11:39
I just got a Medalist A3 from Stocky's yesterday. It appears that the aluminum block is full-length.
Anyway, I've proven across several builds that the HS block is much better. I've had several B&C stocks where the block was not in there straight, just plain warped, or both.
On the HS stock, the block does go to the front and the swivel studs screw into the threaded aluminum block. From my experience, the swivel studs need to be tightened a tad and maybe a little blue loctite to keep from turning.
Stock 7mm-08, cut to 21" with 003 stock from stocky's--first day in the woods netted a good size 4 pointer! going again today I need to neck shoot the next one, Federal Premium w/140 grain NBT's do a number on things.
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Littlelebowski
11-24-11, 12:57
I have a B&C M40 stock if you want pics from that, SR.
What's the weight comparison between the B&C and the HS?
HS take offs can be had in plenty. Alot of long range shooters opt for an McMillian, Manners, AICS, or the other various chassis/stocks and switch out their factory stocks.
The VS take off (PSV002) is what I have on my SPS-T and I love it. The 5R and new Sendero stocks have th epalm swell which is a bit too big for my taste but are awesome straight forward stocks.
And biggest plus about these take offs is that you can get them for only $225-250.
HS take offs can be had in plenty. Alot of long range shooters opt for an McMillian, Manners, AICS, or the other various chassis/stocks and switch out their factory stocks.
The VS take off (PSV002) is what I have on my SPS-T and I love it. The 5R and new Sendero stocks have th epalm swell which is a bit too big for my taste but are awesome straight forward stocks.
And biggest plus about these take offs is that you can get them for only $225-250.
They also have a bull barrel channel. I need a sporter weight channel.
They also have a bull barrel channel. I need a sporter weight channel.
Why?
I run a heavy contour channel HS on a pencil barrelled 22-250. Looks good.
http://www.gregd.net/pics/guns/loki/IMG_4704.JPG
As far as stocks: IMHO and limited experience the HS is a fine stock at a great price point. There are much nicer stocks avaiable but they are also priced accordingly...
Thanks for reminding me that I need to restock my FN so I need to travel this path myself shortly.
Why?
I run a heavy contour channel HS on a pencil barrelled 22-250. Looks good.
http://www.gregd.net/pics/guns/loki/IMG_4704.JPG
What pattern is that? Looks good!
What pattern is that? Looks good!
Coyote tan with black webbing. It's since been painted.
http://www.gregd.net/gunrecord/IMG_4925.JPG
Keep it on track--period:big_boss:
To me, the aluminum bedding blocks are not needed or at least don't do anything but stiffen up the stock. I still had to bed both my XCR and LTR HS stocks.
I have 3 B&C "TI" stocks with pillars instead of the bedding block and for saving weight, this would be my choice on a sporter weight barrel/gun. Mine are Mountain rifles but for a standard sporter weight. look at the Alaskan TI stocks at stocky's stocks.
Just another option.
To me, the aluminum bedding blocks are not needed or at least don't do anything but stiffen up the stock. I still had to bed both my XCR and LTR HS stocks.
I have 3 B&C "TI" stocks with pillars instead of the bedding block and for saving weight, this would be my choice on a sporter weight barrel/gun. Mine are Mountain rifles but for a standard sporter weight. look at the Alaskan TI stocks at stocky's stocks.
Just another option.
The problem I am having is with B&C medalist stock with the front sling stud mounting spot becoming distorted, crushed, and loose.
I put a medalist stock on the 700 that is in question, and after two season of hunting, the front sling stud mounting area is destroyed.
The sling stud is about to fall out of the stock.
Gotcha. While I've never had that problem with any of mine (only use it as a carrying strap) after reworking a B&C TI stock, the HS material seems more robust.
I have both type stocks on several rifles, and I always have sling stud issues coming loose. Maybe I just beat mine to death. The design of the stud and sling work against each other.
Install flush cups. Problem solved.
I've run into voids in B&C stocks while doing that. Can be fixed with epoxy, but a PITA none the less.
I have both type stocks on several rifles, and I always have sling stud issues coming loose. Maybe I just beat mine to death. The design of the stud and sling work against each other.
That isn't my problem. The stud is ripping loose from the stock and taking stock material with it.
A little tip I would like to pass along regarding sling studs and such. Next time you purchase a synthetic stock have a rail installed underneath and this will mitigate the problem. They are fantastic for hand stops or bipods. This a H.S. Precision HTR - the stock model is PST25
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