View Full Version : First full build(sbr) has been started
Well yesterday I setup my trust and ordered my first suppressor.
Ordered so far...
Noveske gen 1 lower
Spikes enhanced LPK
Spikes Carbine Buffer assembly kit
AAC 762SDN6 Suppressor
AAC brakeout x2 one for my bushy and for this sbr.
Planned...
Aimpoint micro t-1with larue mount
Noveske 10.5 upper with switch block Chrome lined and hammer forged barrel(complete upper)
Troy front and rear buis
Magpul ctr stock and moe+ grip
I'm pretty excited for this as it will be the first rifle I've put together and is a big step up from my bushmaster!
Opinions are always welcomed!
Out of curiosity, you're spending good money on good parts. So, why the Spikes parts?
Swap the spikes lpk for this one
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=GRT-LPK
Swap the spikes lpk for this one
http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=GRT-LPK
You nailed it right on the head.
I just wish i knew of that kit before i did mine lol
I bought the spikes because I like their trigger. I understand spikes is not highly regarded here, but why should I not use their lpk? I can still cancel the order, but why?
What is wrong with Spikes? I installed A Spikes LPK in my build and the parts are all mil speck.
A few suggestions. One it is MILSPEC= military specification. Two- I suggest that you use the ORANGE search button and look up the meaning of the word MILSPEC.
What is wrong with Spikes? I installed A Spikes LPK in my build and the parts are all mil speck.
A few suggestions. One it is MILSPEC= military specification. Two- I suggest that you use the ORANGE search button and look up the meaning of the word MILSPEC.
Sarcastic tone? How is that answering my question? Why do you assume that I need to know what Mil Spec is? Am I misunderstanding your reply?
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself but the guys in here are pretty involved in this weapons system and take each and every part that goes into it very seriously.
Iraqgunz knows his shit. As shitty as his reply might have sounded to you, he's trying to steer you in the RIGHT direction. Just go with it and welcome to M4C.
I'm not speaking for anyone but myself but the guys in here are pretty involved in this weapons system and take each and every part that goes into it very seriously.
Iraqgunz knows his shit. As shitty as his reply might have sounded to you, he's trying to steer you in the RIGHT direction. Just go with it and welcome to M4C.
How is his response steering me in the right direction? His response was shitty and really not necessary.
There was nothing shitty in his response.
Iraqgunz is a very respected member here and putting it plainly, like others have said, he knows his shit and is very well versed in the platform.
He is just asking you to use the search button, the orange one. It will tell you everything you need to know and more.
I am curious what everyone doesn't like about the spikes lpk. The only part I can see people not liking is the kns pins as they serve no purpose, besides looking cool. Lol I for one really like their battle trigger as well as every product of theirs I have used. I'm obviously not the most knowledgable member here, but I'm far from the least.
My wife used all of the sugar, so I wasn't able to coat the answer. Because you used the term mill speck in your post, yet you apparently don't even know what it means or is. It wasn't shitty. I pointed out as I have a hundred other times that USING THE SEARCH BUTTON will often times provide alot of information. Some people seem more focused on posting rather than taking the time to read.
Spike's and the parts used has been discussed numerous times. Nothing that Spike's makes is MILSPEC. As you will discover if you take the time to read the only companies that can truly claim MILSPEC are those that have access to the TDP and are making weapons for the government.
There are other companies that source excellent parts and in some cases they are probably getting them from some of the same vendors (where applicable) but they still aren't MILSPEC.
Aside from Colt LPK's, the only ones I would use would the ones that GandRtactical puts together or Daniel Defense.
Sarcastic tone? How is that answering my question? Why do you assume that I need to know what Mil Spec is? Am I misunderstanding your reply?
My wife used all of the sugar, so I wasn't able to coat the answer. Because you used the term mill speck in your post, yet you apparently don't even know what it means or is. It wasn't shitty. I pointed out as I have a hundred other times that USING THE SEARCH BUTTON will often times provide alot of information. Some people seem more focused on posting rather than taking the time to read.
Spike's and the parts used has been discussed numerous times. Nothing that Spike's makes is MILSPEC. As you will discover if you take the time to read the only companies that can truly claim MILSPEC are those that have access to the TDP and are making weapons for the government.
There are other companies that source excellent parts and in some cases they are probably getting them from some of the same vendors (where applicable) but they still aren't MILSPEC.
Aside from Colt LPK's, the only ones I would use would the ones that GandRtactical puts together or Daniel Defense.
Sarcastic tone? How is that answering my question? Why do you assume that I need to know what Mil Spec is? Am I misunderstanding your reply?
Wow all this for asking what was wrong with Spikes and don't they have MILSPECK, sorry for the miss spelling, I did mean to spell it milspec, but I am sure all this isn't because of my poor spelling.
This is from Spikes Web Site:
"The Spike’s Enhanced LPK also features a Mil-Spec bolt catch, mag catch, and mag catch button. As well as utilizing Mil-Spec detents, plungers, pins, and springs. We also include quality spiral roll pins for the trigger guard and bolt catch as well as a ¼” allen screw and washer for the Ergo grip."
I do know what military specification means I did my time in the military. I do read and I do my research. You assume I don't know what mil spec is based on what? Spikes clams that these parts are mil spec. Go visit their web site and see.
I don't give a shit what Spike's says. This is why I told you to READ ABD USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION. There is a lengthy thread about what is MILSPEC and what it means.
Have you ever heard or MARKETING before? That is what they are doing. If you don't like the answer don't ask the question or make a statement when it's not true.
I know what MILSPEC means and obviously you do not. So once again I am asking you to use the SEARCH button or Google or ask the wise Chinese guy what MISLPEC is and how it is applicable in this case.
[QUOTE=Iraqgunz;1164188]My wife used all of the sugar, so I wasn't able to coat the answer. Because you used the term mill speck in your post, yet you apparently don't even know what it means or is. It wasn't shitty. I pointed out as I have a hundred other times that USING THE SEARCH BUTTON will often times provide alot of information. Some people seem more focused on posting rather than taking the time to read.
Spike's and the parts used has been discussed numerous times. Nothing that Spike's makes is MILSPEC. As you will discover if you take the time to read the only companies that can truly claim MILSPEC are those that have access to the TDP and are making weapons for the government.
There are other companies that source excellent parts and in some cases they are probably getting them from some of the same vendors (where applicable) but they still aren't MILSPEC.
Aside from Colt LPK's, the only ones I would use would the ones that GandRtactical puts together or Daniel Defense.
Wow all this for asking what was wrong with Spikes and don't they have MILSPECK, sorry for the miss spelling, I did mean to spell it milspec, but I am sure all this isn't because of my poor spelling.
This is from Spikes Web Site:
"The Spike’s Enhanced LPK also features a Mil-Spec bolt catch, mag catch, and mag catch button. As well as utilizing Mil-Spec detents, plungers, pins, and springs. We also include quality spiral roll pins for the trigger guard and bolt catch as well as a ¼” allen screw and washer for the Ergo grip."
I do know what military specification means I did my time in the military. I do read and I do my research. You assume I don't know what mil spec is based on what? Spikes clams that these parts are mil spec. Go visit their web site and see.
I did use the search button and searched for Spikes, not Mil Spec. I found many pages starting from 2009 about Spikes. I read about 4 pages and almost all comments were positive. After reading almost four pages of positive info I felt that reading the next 15 or so pages was not necessary. I am not stupid so I know what marketing is however, I am having a difficult time understanding what MIL SPEC is so what I will do is give Spikes a call and ask them if they can help me understand what their version of mil spec is and then I will use the orange button on this forum and compare notes. I am not sure if it was this forum I performed that search of mil spec before or another forum but no matter I will do it again and compare more notes. I will post what Spikes version of mil spec is. If you have any questions you want me to ask them please let me know.
I did a google search for mil spec and guess what? I ended up here! It seems that the info on mil spec that I gathered was from this site after all, thanks Grant for your insite again. I will direct Spikes to this site and Grants post if they need help with the whole Mil Spec thing.
I can lead the horse to water.......
https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-19082.html
https://www.m4carbine.net/archive/index.php/t-38728.html
I did a google search for mil spec and guess what? I ended up here! It seems that the info on mil spec that I gathered was from this site after all, thanks Grant for your insite again. I will direct Spikes to this site and Grants post if they need help with the whole Mil Spec thing.
Just got off the phone with Spikes and I talked to Derrick in technical. He says their LPK is MIl Spec and meets the guidelines for tolerances. He also said that they get their parts from reputable companies though he would not say what companies they used. He seemed to understand what Mil Spec meant but may be it was Spikes version of what Mil Spec is. I know I satisfied with his answer.
Just got off the phone with Spikes and I talked to Derrick in technical. He says their LPK is MIl Spec and meets the guidelines for tolerances. He also said that they get their parts from reputable companies though he would not say what companies they used. He seemed to understand what Mil Spec meant but may be it was Spikes version of what Mil Spec is. I know I satisfied with his answer.
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t294/myersma2/Stuff/Cool_Dog_Hey_Cool_story_bro41_oh_crap_moments-s400x400-96811-535.jpg
...but the question remains why get the spikes super duper enhanced when you can get...
G&R tactical LPK $94
Magpul, or like, grip $30
and save $25.00
or
G&R tactical LPK (-the selector)
Magpul, or like, grip $30
BADD ASS ambi selector $60
Bulldog60...let it go. You will get nowhere but frustrated. Do some reading here and you'll see what I mean. For the record, I bought a Spikes LPK for my SBR build too along with a HC BCG and a few other parts. Good price, great warrenty, full disclousure about the specifications on their parts. I have no doubt that they will function just fine. I'm not saying that DD, Colt or BCM parts are not worth it and had they been the same price as the Spikes I would have bought theirs...I just got more bang for my buck with the Spikes.
How about this. Why don't you tell me and the viewing audience what you think MILSPEC means?
There is no such thing as "Spikes' version of MILSPEC". So whatever makes you happy man. Rock out with your sock out.
Just got off the phone with Spikes and I talked to Derrick in technical. He says their LPK is MIl Spec and meets the guidelines for tolerances. He also said that they get their parts from reputable companies though he would not say what companies they used. He seemed to understand what Mil Spec meant but may be it was Spikes version of what Mil Spec is. I know I satisfied with his answer.
Let's stop shitting on my thread. In other news my lower is with my ffl and I'm picking that up tonight.
Trying to let you know there's cheaper (arguably better) options out there.
And I didn't think we were supposed to start 'build' threads til we were finished with said build :confused:
Why Spikes? This is my first build and my lower was the first part that I bought. I did lots of research on other forums and youtube and always Spikes came up. I checked out their site and did more research on what Mil Spec was. I did land on this site and read Grants post however I did not know that he was a dealer and it really didn't matter at the time. I did submit info to join this forum but it took awhile and I ended up PM en someone before I could post. In the mean time I read in another message board that many on this forum were elitist and if you didn't own a Colt you didn't have a quality firearm so I waited to see for myself. All I have to say about that is WOW!
I really came down to Spikes having everything all together for since I was still a little intimidated by building my own rifle. I knew I could do it but you know how it goes. It ended up that when I was ready for my build on my lower Spikes was out of stock on the enhanced kit. This was something I was getting tired of while building this thing so I really did panic and I just ordered their regular kit then I ordered their trigger. By this time I did enough research and watched many videos on youtube that I was comfortable with getting other lower parts from other companies so I ordered Magpul MOE +, that ended up being out of stock too but they sure took my money first, then I picked up a MOE trigger guard. A BAD A.S.S was next then KNS pins because I might run a conversion. Spikes was on my mind and I thought I would like their trigger.
My next build I will use parts from Grant. After I learned that he was a dealer I wasn't going to get anything from him because this forum is shoving his products down our throats. That being said I changed my mind this morning after re reading his Mis Spec post. He seems to be a cool dude and answered everyone's questions without telling them to use the orange search button.
Spikes parts went in fine, they even give you an extra spring and detent.
You still didn't answer my question. In any case be happy with your stuff and let's stay out of the OP's thread.
Why Spikes? This is my first build and my lower was the first part that I bought. I did lots of research on other forums and youtube and always Spikes came up. I checked out their site and did more research on what Mil Spec was. I did land on this site and read Grants post however I did not know that he was a dealer and it really didn't matter at the time. I did submit info to join this forum but it took awhile and I ended up PM en someone before I could post. In the mean time I read in another message board that many on this forum were elitist and if you didn't own a Colt you didn't have a quality firearm so I waited to see for myself. All I have to say about that is WOW!
I really came down to Spikes having everything all together for since I was still a little intimidated by building my own rifle. I knew I could do it but you know how it goes. It ended up that when I was ready for my build on my lower Spikes was out of stock on the enhanced kit. This was something I was getting tired of while building this thing so I really did panic and I just ordered their regular kit then I ordered their trigger. By this time I did enough research and watched many videos on youtube that I was comfortable with getting other lower parts from other companies so I ordered Magpul MOE +, that ended up being out of stock too but they sure took my money first, then I picked up a MOE trigger guard. A BAD A.S.S was next then KNS pins because I might run a conversion. Spikes was on my mind and I thought I would like their trigger.
My next build I will use parts from Grant. After I learned that he was a dealer I wasn't going to get anything from him because this forum is shoving his products down our throats. That being said I changed my mind this morning after re reading his Mis Spec post. He seems to be a cool dude and answered everyone's questions without telling them to use the orange search button.
Spikes parts went in fine, they even give you an extra spring and detent.
My advice is not to cut corners with an SBR. When it comes to the buffer I would get an H3 and not the Spike's ST2.
Or if you want a multipurpose lower get the Vltor A5 system which will generally allow you to run a variety of uppers.
Let's stop shitting on my thread. In other news my lower is with my ffl and I'm picking that up tonight.
Bulldog60...let it go. You will get nowhere but frustrated. Do some reading here and you'll see what I mean. For the record, I bought a Spikes LPK for my SBR build too along with a HC BCG and a few other parts. Good price, great warrenty, full disclousure about the specifications on their parts. I have no doubt that they will function just fine. I'm not saying that DD, Colt or BCM parts are not worth it and had they been the same price as the Spikes I would have bought theirs...I just got more bang for my buck with the Spikes.
Thanks, you are right and I am done..
Let's stop shitting on my thread. In other news my lower is with my ffl and I'm picking that up tonight.
Good luck with your build! It is fun, and apologies for my lengthy and a bit off topic posts.
I did a google search for mil spec and guess what? I ended up here! It seems that the info on mil spec that I gathered was from this site after all, thanks Grant for your insite again. I will direct Spikes to this site and Grants post if they need help with the whole Mil Spec thing.
Oh good LORD, don't do that. :nono:
My days dealing with the ST fan boys is over.
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Oh good LORD, don't do that. :nono:
My days dealing with the ST fan boys is over.
C4
Sorry I was just being a little sarcastic about directing Spikes to the post. I did not really intend on doing that.:no:
Sorry I was just being a little sarcastic about directing Spikes to the post. I did not really intend on doing that.:no:
Roger that.
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