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ForTehNguyen
01-04-12, 15:30
both barrels for you, you bastards

http://abcnews.go.com/US/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder911-operators-shoot/story?id=15285605#.TwTFPNTZD5M

http://gma.yahoo.com/okla-woman-shoots-kills-intruder-911-operators-okay-091106413.html


Okla. Woman Shoots, Kills Intruder: 911 Operators Say It's Okay to Shoot
By KEVIN DOLAK and RYAN OWENS | Good Morning America – 4 hours ago

A young Oklahoma mother shot and killed an intruder to protect her 3-month-old baby on New Year's Eve, less than a week after the baby's father died of cancer.

Sarah McKinley says that a week earlier a man named Justin Martin dropped by on the day of her husband's funeral, claiming that he was a neighbor who wanted to say hello. The 18-year-old Oklahoma City area woman did not let him into her home that day.

On New Year's Eve Martin returned with another man, Dustin Stewart, and this time was armed with a 12-inch hunting knife. The two soon began trying to break into McKinley's home.

As one of the men was going from door to door outside her home trying to gain entry, McKinley called 911 and grabbed her 12-gauge shotgun.

McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO that she quickly got her 12 gauge, went into her bedroom and got a pistol, put the bottle in the baby's mouth and called 911.

"I've got two guns in my hand -- is it okay to shoot him if he comes in this door?" the young mother asked the 911 dispatcher. "I'm here by myself with my infant baby, can I please get a dispatcher out here immediately?"

The 911 dispatcher confirmed with McKinley that the doors to her home were locked as she asked again if it was okay to shoot the intruder if he were to come through her door.

"I can't tell you that you can do that but you do what you have to do to protect your baby," the dispatcher told her. McKinley was on the phone with 911 for a total of 21 minutes.

When Martin kicked in the door and came after her with the knife, the teen mom shot and killed the 24-year-old. Police are calling the shooting justified.

"You're allowed to shoot an unauthorized person that is in your home. The law provides you the remedy, and sanctions the use of deadly force," Det. Dan Huff of the Blanchard police said.
Stewart soon turned himself in to police.

McKinley said that she was at home alone with her newborn that night because her husband just died of cancer on Christmas Day.

"I wouldn't have done it, but it was my son," McKinley told ABC News Oklahoma City affiliate KOCO. "It's not an easy decision to make, but it was either going to be him or my son. And it wasn't going to be my son. There's nothing more dangerous than a woman with a child."

BCmJUnKie
01-04-12, 15:34
It wasnt the "Operator" or Dispatcher that said it was okay to SHOOT.

It was the Detective after the fact making a statement that a person UN-authorized in your home of if you fear for your life, you can use lethal force.

Honu
01-04-12, 16:15
saw this on the news and thought GOOD a story showing how a gun protects us !! I wish all the thousands of times these happen a year they would make news showing the good gun ownership does in protecting one self !!!

Moose-Knuckle
01-04-12, 16:58
Nothing says don't harm my 3-month old baby like a chest full of '00 buckshot! Good mommy right there!

I saw this story run on a Good Morning America news spot (no, I do not normally watch that shit). I was amazed at the fact that the hosts were in support of this woman and not doing their typical anti 2nd hack job.

This story says a lot about Oklahoma too, the LEOs and DA have no problemo.

Eurodriver
01-04-12, 18:16
Nothing says don't harm my 3-month old baby like a chest full of '00 buckshot! Good mommy right there!

I saw this story run on a Good Morning America news spot (no, I do not normally watch that shit). I was amazed at the fact that the hosts were in support of this woman and not doing their typical anti 2nd hack job.

This story says a lot about Oklahoma too, the LEOs and DA have no problemo.

I wonder if this was a 25 year old, in shape, white Christian male and he was holding his infant and shot and killed an intruder with an AR15 if it would get as much press.

BCmJUnKie
01-04-12, 18:17
I wonder if this was a 25 year old, in shape, white Christian male and he was holding his infant and shot and killed an intruder with an AR15 if it would get as much press.

Probably, but it would include charges or controversy.

Iraqgunz
01-04-12, 18:59
Really? Who gives a shit if it was a W/M Christian or not? A good shoot is a good shoot. Hell, a klan member probably would have gotten away with it.

chadbag
01-04-12, 23:24
It wasnt the "Operator" or Dispatcher that said it was okay to SHOOT.

It was the Detective after the fact making a statement that a person UN-authorized in your home of if you fear for your life, you can use lethal force.

Well, the article I read basically said it was, without the actual saying "YES" it is OK. They are told not to say it is OK, but they are not prohibited it seems from saying "Do what you need to do" in effect.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/04/justice/oklahoma-intruder-shooting/?c=&page=1

chadbag
01-04-12, 23:26
Probably, but it would include charges or controversy.

Dude, this is Oklahoma we are talking about. Almost like Texas more or less.

(note the above comparison to Texas has nothing to do with sports for good or bad)

Belmont31R
01-04-12, 23:29
Well, the article I read basically said it was, without the actual saying "YES" it is OK. They are told not to say it is OK, but they are not prohibited it seems from saying "Do what you need to do" in effect.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/04/justice/oklahoma-intruder-shooting/?c=&page=1




They are not there and don't know the circumstances first hand. It would be a major legal liability for a 911 dispatcher to tell a person its ok to shoot then it turns out things are "different".

chadbag
01-04-12, 23:32
They are not there and don't know the circumstances first hand. It would be a major legal liability for a 911 dispatcher to tell a person its ok to shoot then it turns out things are "different".

Agreed. But a statement to the effect of "do what you need to do to protect yourself" is almost as good in the end and avoids that sort of potential liability.

Belmont31R
01-04-12, 23:38
Agreed. But a statement to the effect of "do what you need to do to protect yourself" is almost as good in the end and avoids that sort of potential liability.



Sure. Just making the distinction. A good 911 call to listen to RE this type of thing is the Joe Horn 911 call. He was no billed here in TX after shooting burglars.


http://youtu.be/LLtKCC7z0yc

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy



Just another good case of 911/LE is minutes away when you have seconds (paraphrasing). If you can't defend yourself you better hope CSI is good at their job.