SKD PIG Molle Cummerbund

[bohemian]

Hey guys,

I just recently purchased an SKD PIG PC with Molle Cummerbund. I'm a small guy at 5'7" 150lbs. The cummerbund, when tightened all the way is still too loose for me. The flaps overlap each other and it's still not tight enough.

I folded over the elastic straps on the back and taped them together to shorten the cummerbund. This did help achieve a tighter fit, but now the velcro on the inside of the cummerbund isn't centered for the hard plate velcro inserts.

What are my options? Should I look into using a different Cummerbund?

Thanks.

[skd_tactical]

I have a 32" waist and with the MOLLE C-bun it fit perfectly without any special attachments.
There are two things you can try to tighten the c-bun for you.
1- lay the C-bun rear eyelets on top of each other and route either bungee cord or 550 cord through keeping the two halves on top of one another.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/skdtactical/photobucket-3463-1326293110375.jpg
2- Lay the two rear sides overlapping each other and route the bungee cord or 550 cord through the elastic parts. This will make it the tightest while still giving some flex. Only one side of the hook side velcro will attach on the inside.

SOS

[mpardun]

Here are two YouTube Video from SKD describing how to use BOTH styles of Cummerbund (Molle & Elastic).

Molle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXNrRAcWwvM

Elastic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFIWfT7BRY

Hard Plate Pouch to go with the Elastic for $55 shipped: http://www.skdtac.com/P-I-G-Side-Plate-Carrier-for-Elastic-Cummerbund-p/pig.203.htm

All I can say is that I opted for the elastic one to keep a lower profile (with add on hard armor option). The elastic one is so adjustable, it will fit my 6 year old daughter and my sorry 41 year old 245lb lard ass! The Elastic is oh so comfy!

Best of luck!

[nobody knows]

Kinda off topic but I'm about your size and I'm looking to get a new pc and one I was considering was the pig. Is there any way you can post a pic of you wearing it? Also what size plates are you running or planning on running? My concern is since its a one size fits all type that there will be to much excess material left on each side of the plate pocket. And that will interfere with my punch out. I will be running small Lve lll/Lve V ICW plates so I don't want more excess material then absolutely necessary. Thanks for any help you can provide.

[piggly_wiggly]

When you consider that the overall footprint of the PIG PC is almost identical to a 11" x 14" XL ESAPI plate, even if you are running a smaller plate, the PIG PC is a lot more compact than a lot of other PCs out there. Excess nylon was practically considered "the enemy" in the design phase while keeping it one-size-fits-most. We've had some people running 10"x 12" wonder why it seemed so "small" :confused:
Also, if you don't need the molle cummberbund, I recommend the elastic all the way- it allows the PIG PC to be as compact and comfortable as possible.

[nobody knows]

Thank you for the reply I'm going to see if I can find someone local to me that owns one so I can try it out. But it sounds like it might fit, ill be doing more research before I commit to a new pc so I got a little time. Thanks again.

[skd_tactical]

Kinda off topic but I'm about your size and I'm looking to get a new pc and one I was considering was the pig. Is there any way you can post a pic of you wearing it? Also what size plates are you running or planning on running? My concern is since its a one size fits all type that there will be to much excess material left on each side of the plate pocket. And that will interfere with my punch out. I will be running small Lve lll/Lve V ICW plates so I don't want more excess material then absolutely necessary. Thanks for any help you can provide.

Here's a Pic of me wearing my PIG. I'm about 5'10", 160 lbs and wear a small late. The army gives me mediums, I just prefer a small.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/skdtactical/photobucket-1756-1320217691968.jpg

SOS

[bohemian]

Here are some pictures I just took.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/3536/img0392q.jpg
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By kyle87t (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/kyle87t) at 2012-01-11
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I am trying to figure out how to get the back up a bit higher. I find that the rear carrier sits really low on my back. Is this normal?

[nobody knows]

Thanks for the pic's fella's much appreciated.

[bohemian]

Here's a Pic of me wearing my PIG. I'm about 5'10", 160 lbs and wear a small late. The army gives me mediums, I just prefer a small.
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg35/skdtactical/photobucket-1756-1320217691968.jpg

SOS

You don't happen to have a picture of the back do you? Mine sits really low and wonder what I am doing wrong.

[skd_tactical]

Do you have plates in the PIG PC for those pics?

SOS

[bohemian]

No. I currently don't have any plates yet.

[NoveskeFan]

No. I currently don't have any plates yet.

Try pulling your two adjustment straps all the way tight, and move the G-hooks to adjust the shoulder straps.

Also, with 10x12 swimmer cut-single curve plates, I get about a 1-2" gap at the top front "jugular notch" area. I guess some push-ups are in order to tighten up my man boobs:D

[bohemian]

I went through the motions last night by adjusting the shoulder straps and ladder rails. The rear does not sit flush on the back which makes it look lower than it is. it still seems a bit low and adjusting it only makes it less comfortable.

[nobody knows]

That might be the problem, plate carriers are not supposed to be comfortable they are supposed to hold the plates in a position to allow adequate protection. Adjust it to where it needs to be, you will get used to it after awhile. Also over time the carrier will brake in some and conform to your body a bit more.

[piggly_wiggly]

bohemian,

Everyone is built differently and it is a delicate balance between the front adjustment straps, the G-hook ladder interface and how tight you run your cummerbund, but at the end of the day the rear plate should sit higher than it is positioned now. Right now you have more weight in the back which will naturally pull it down further. Once you put plates in it and a few mags up front, it will sit completely differently.

Keep in mind that in order for the rear plate to "look" proper, it will sit higher than the front plate. If the tops of the front and rear plate are both the same height off the ground when you are standing straight up, the rear plate will "look" low when viewed from the back, although it is offering you the same protection for the same areas as the front plate is. The Elastic Cummerbund allows for up to a 4" difference in height between the front and rear plate b/c it is only 4" tall and it secures into a 6" Cummerbund flap up front and a 6" Cummerbund channel in the back. We see some folks running their elastic cummerbunds towards the bottom of the rear channel, and towards the top of the cummerbund flap. Hope that helps!

p_w

[bohemian]

That makes alot of sense Piggly_Wiggly. I did some more adjusting and it seems to fit alot better although now that you mention the PC sitting differently with a full loadout has me wondering if all this adjustment was a waste of time. :D

I must have played with the Carrier for 2 hours yesterday trying different ways to tighten the cummerbund and reposition the back carrier.

I ended taping one part of the elastic to the other part on the cummerbund and now the cummerbund sits fairly tight with the flaps touching eachother, but not overlapping. I figure that when I put side plates in, I will want a bit of slack on the cummerbund to allow room for the plates to fit.

ADVICE**??

Would you recommend a 2 x dual shingle mag pouches (Eagle M4 Pouch) or 4 single shingles (Emdom M4 CQB Pouch)

I have pretty much narrowed it down to these two. If not these than I will go polar opposite and run 2 x double BFG Ten-Speed Pouches.

What do you think?

[skd_tactical]

I really prefer to just run four single mag pouches across my chest. I have a hard time going prone with double stacked mags on my front. I have seen tons of guys with no issue running double stacked mags across their chest on a PC but I just don't find it comfortable.

SOS

[bohemian]

I really prefer to just run four single mag pouches across my chest. I have a hard time going prone with double stacked mags on my front. I have seen tons of guys with no issue running double stacked mags across their chest on a PC but I just don't find it comfortable.

SOS

What I was really referring to was your preference to running two dual "shingle" mag pouches vs four single "shingle" mag pouches.

I am horrible at explaining things. :D

[skd_tactical]

I generally run 4 single pouches across the front, this allows the most modularity of my kit as needed by what my specific mission is. However no matter how my loadout changes I generally only keep mags on my front as that's where I'm used to reloading from and have years of muscle memory for that.

SOS

[bohemian]

I appreciate the reply.

When are the Multicam Emdom CQB M4 Pouches coming in SKD_Tactical? :(

[skd_tactical]

It's a shot in the dark getting time frames from Emdom. I have a better chance of guessing when my wife will be mad for no reason.

SOS

[bohemian]

Damn... What do I do...

Oh I was curious about something. Why is there a contrast in colour between the Multicam Molle straps that say "multicam" versus the fabric that covers the PIG carrier?

I noticed this same phenomenon on the BFG pouches and Eagle Pouches.

[JSantoro]

The material that MOLLE webbing is made of is not exactly the same as that used for the main body.

Take exactly the same dye/treatment, apply it to different weaves/types of cloth. One will appear different from the other.