NYPD, Feds Testing Gun-Scanning Technology

[Abraxas]

Did not see this anywhere here yet. http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/01/17/nypd-testing-gun-scanning-technology/

[Palmguy]

The many quotes included in that article are disturbing.

[Reagans Rascals]

there is no way this is even legal, much less even an accurate assumption of the real capabilities.

There is no way they have a machine that they can simply point at someone like a radar gun and see they have a gun on them. And know precisely 100% it is a firearm. What about the amounts of radiation that the unknowing individuals would be subjected too? There's no way this thing is just using light wavelengths... there has to be millimeter wave/ x-ray's involved. Otherwise, ummmm yeah clothing blocks body heat, not just metal from guns....

Not to mention... how can this type of unwarranted, non-consented search be legal under any circumstances in court?

"Well yes your honor.... we were driving by and we thought what the hell... and scanned an individual buying groceries from a street market, determined he was carrying a firearm and arrested him on the spot."

seems like there will be a lot of harassment suits brought up over this kinda stuff... as in... officers scan a random individual, determine they are "carrying" as accurate as they can assume, and then they have to follow the individual around until they do something to "warrant" a cold stop or to give them probable cause to approach them... because they sure as hell can't just walk up and say yeah we just scanned you and you have a gun, show it to me right now... at least not yet...

[kartoffel]

Teraherz and millimeter-wave radar is the same technology found in those "porno scanners" at the airport.

[QuietShootr]

there is no way this is even legal, much less even an accurate assumption of the real capabilities.

There is no way they have a machine that they can simply point at someone like a radar gun and see they have a gun on them.

Totally wrong.

And know precisely 100% it is a firearm. What about the amounts of radiation that the unknowing individuals would be subjected too? There's no way this thing is just using light wavelengths... there has to be millimeter wave/ x-ray's involved. Otherwise, ummmm yeah clothing blocks body heat, not just metal from guns....

Not to mention... how can this type of unwarranted, non-consented search be legal under any circumstances in court?

"Well yes your honor.... we were driving by and we thought what the hell... and scanned an individual buying groceries from a street market, determined he was carrying a firearm and arrested him on the spot."

seems like there will be a lot of harassment suits brought up over this kinda stuff... as in... officers scan a random individual, determine they are "carrying" as accurate as they can assume, and then they have to follow the individual around until they do something to "warrant" a cold stop or to give them probable cause to approach them... because they sure as hell can't just walk up and say yeah we just scanned you and you have a gun, show it to me right now... at least not yet...

I'm thinking some pistol-shaped flat metal shim stock cutouts carried IWB would stop this shit pretty quickly, if enough people did it. Can you imagine if every gun guy who visited NYC slipped one of these inside their shirt before walking the streets? Be like trying to find something with a metal detector in a junkyard.

[Reagans Rascals]

I'm thinking some pistol-shaped flat metal shim stock cutouts carried IWB would stop this shit pretty quickly, if enough people did it. Can you imagine if every gun guy who visited NYC slipped one of these inside their shirt before walking the streets? Be like trying to find something with a metal detector in a junkyard.

They'd arrest you for carrying a concealed weapon, say it was an edged weapon or a blunt instrument.

I have a plate in my head from a past surgery, I wonder if I wore a hat if they'd try to get me considering the majority of heat radiates from the human head...?

[montanadave]

I'd never even heard of TeraHertz imaging so I thought I'd try to educate myself.

Found this article: http://www.laserfocusworld.com/articles/2010/02/terahertz-imaging-terahertz-imaging-uses-a-demodulating-detector-array.html

A quote from the article cited above:

One of the most widely used and flexible ways to get information from light in the terahertz frequency range is to use a femtosecond-laser-based terahertz time-domain-spectroscopy (THz-TDS) system, which is often based on electro-optical detection of terahertz radiation. In this approach, a terahertz electric field is optically detected using the birefringence caused by a terahertz pulse within a nonlinear crystal (typically zinc telluride). Terahertz fields are detected as a change of the polarization state of an optical probe pulse.

And then the article got all technical and shit. :lol:

The last electronic gizmo I built was a crystal radio set from Radio Shack around 1966. I seem to have fallen behind the times. I have no idea how your average citizen is supposed to protect their privacy from electronic surveillance when he cannot even comprehend the technology being deployed against him. And the only people you can rely upon to provide you information about what's going on are the very people developing and utilizing that same technology.

Pass the tin foil.

[Grizzly16]

They'd arrest you for carrying a concealed weapon, say it was an edged weapon or a blunt instrument.

I have a plate in my head from a past surgery, I wonder if I wore a hat if they'd try to get me considering the majority of heat radiates from the human head...?

Cut it out of reflective emergency blankets, tape it to a shirt and call it bling.

[Reagans Rascals]

this is actually like some weird shit science fiction self-fulfilling prophecy....

those with the tin foil hats and suits.... saying the men in black suits could read their thoughts... really weren't shittin.....

so not only can they aim a laser at your window or glass of water and record your conversations through vibrations... but they can also see through your clothes and pick out their target in a crowd without ever exposing themselves... seems like movies such as Eraser and Enemy of the State aren't total bs after all

oh and I forgot... they can blow out your ear drums without even making a noise to anyone else beside you...

and Russian aircraft have Active Plasma Stealth... that absorbs all radar and tracking beams...

I think I'll make a run to wally world for some Reynolds Wrap now...

remember... its not science fiction... its science prediction... everything that's ever been written about in science fiction or shown in movies as a joke... has actually came to be in one form or another. the communicators on Star Trek... 40 years ago.... turned out to be cell phones.. the body scanner... enter the MRI... shields... Active Plasma Stealth...

[ForTehNguyen]

illegal search

[CarlosDJackal]

They'd arrest you for carrying a concealed weapon, say it was an edged weapon or a blunt instrument.

I have a plate in my head from a past surgery, I wonder if I wore a hat if they'd try to get me considering the majority of heat radiates from the human head...?

Actually, not if it was sewn into your pants as a "decorative piece". I should start making "Pistol" brand pants that have just that. :laugh:

[Reagans Rascals]

Actually, not if it was sewn into your pants as a "decorative piece". I should start making "Pistol" brand pants that have just that. :laugh:

Somehow you have to make one with the outline of an RPG, SAW, or M60. Just for the pure satisfaction of seeing the look on the LEO's face when they scanned you.

They see a guy standing in a crowd with what appears to be an RPG-7 hidden in his pant leg hahaha priceless.