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Moose-Knuckle
01-19-12, 02:41
Plucked these from Google. . .

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/cz1.jpg

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/AKS-74/CZ.jpg

anubismp
01-19-12, 09:35
I'm digging the Bren quite a bit. I certainly hope they have plans for the us market.

montrala
01-19-12, 10:16
I'm digging the Bren quite a bit. I certainly hope they have plans for the us market.

I doubt. Assault weapon import ban and CZ does not have rifle factory in USA. Unless they will set thing up in way that HK did with MR556 and MR762.

Some of my impressions about Bren:

http://montrala.blogspot.com/2011/09/so-you-heard-about-bren.html

Friend, who had opportunity to shoot it, liked it for very stable handling, even under full auto fire. Partially courtesy to weight (it is not on light side).

BTW Other friend has Scorpion Evo on order. Hopefully I will have opportunity to shoot one soon.

AngeredKabar
01-19-12, 16:07
I think the Bren needs to be able to use AR15 magazines to have a chance at being successful here. Added bonus is a couple of compliance parts.

CZ USA could probably be capable of making compliance parts and assembling kits.

Jaws
01-19-12, 16:11
I think the Bren needs to be able to use AR15 magazines to have a chance at being successful here. Added bonus is a couple of compliance parts.

CZ USA could probably be capable of making compliance parts and assembling kits.

It already has a magwell made for US mags. It can be changed in seconds.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/czech_republic/weapons/cz_s_805_ceska_zbrojovka/cz_s_805_s805_ceska_zbrojovka_assault_rifle_Czech_Republic_600.jpg

AngeredKabar
01-19-12, 16:13
It already has a magwell made for US mags. It can be changed in seconds.

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/east_europe/czech_republic/weapons/cz_s_805_ceska_zbrojovka/cz_s_805_s805_ceska_zbrojovka_assault_rifle_Czech_Republic_600.jpg

Well alright then.

BoomerShooter
01-19-12, 20:16
Did CZ borrow some patents from FNH?!?!

VIP3R 237
01-19-12, 21:56
Playes with both today at Shot, I really like the scorpion evo, it was light and fast. The bren didnt have the stanag mag well in it but it seemed like a solid design.

DeltaSierra
01-19-12, 23:50
From what I have been able to find out so far about the Bren, I am impressed.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if it comes to the US market, as CZ has already imported legal "assault" weapons to the US (the CZ VZ-58,) so there is some type of import structure in place already.

I will be keeping a close eye on its progress, as I am quite interested in what they have done...

bigrobbierob
01-20-12, 21:03
Concerning the Bren, other than its stock ment for midgets and that paddle mag release that some euro nations just can't get let go I was impressed with it. Wasn't heavy to me. Looks cool as all get out with that CQB barrel.

The Scorpion was a cool little bugger. Felt tiny, like MP5k tiny. Hard to explain but I liked the mag release on it better than I did the Bren.

Would be nice to see the Bren make it over. The longer barreled version at SHOT would just need some mods to it and it should be able to get across the pond.

Moose-Knuckle
01-20-12, 21:20
Many make the comment how the Bren A1 resembles FN's SCAR, I think it looks more like an updated FNC myself.

montrala
01-21-12, 18:38
Many make the comment how the Bren A1 resembles FN's SCAR, I think it looks more like an updated FNC myself.

It's neither. History of this design goes back to 2004 (actually even longer, but whole design approach was whole different then) and final technical-tactical specification was completed in 2005. It might look similar to SCAR or have features similar to FNC or even G36/XM8 or (on some stage of project even MP7), but it differs in lot of details. Actuall design got "stabilised" around 2008 (first prototypes were shown under disguise in 2006) and official presentation was in 2009. My friend made interesting article on Bren story.

misanthropist
01-21-12, 22:38
Fair amount of chatter on this gun for the last year or so in Canada...we don't have the same set of issues with importing assault rifles, so no specific reason to have this be verboten (although random rifles do get the stamp of disapproval for no reason we can discern).

I'm definitely interested to get my hands on one. CZ rifles have been good to me so far.