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2nd.amendment
10-14-12, 15:37
Not sure if I have seen anyone post this up yet, but I had a Noveske lopro sling swivel stud for a Troy handguard sitting around that I thought I would see if it fit my new NSR upper. . . it did.

The threaded backplate has a raised section that sits in the Troy Alpha/TRX holes. For the NSR, I just flipped it over so the flat side is resting against the flat side of the inside of the NSR. The washer that rests in the outside of the Troy rails fits nicely in the larger part of the keymod slots.

It just happened to time perfectly. I am not thinking I will keep this here, but it is convenient for zeroing and may be worthwhile for someone else.

Here are a couple simple pictures.
You can just see the raised portion through the hole in the NSR. That is the raised part that would sit in the Troy holes.
http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s427/M4addict/IMG_7652.jpg

http://i1051.photobucket.com/albums/s427/M4addict/IMG_7653.jpg

ryu_sekai
10-21-12, 09:31
Finally! Here's my 13.5" NSR. Time to break out the krylon...

http://m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=13540&d=1347521838

what brake is that?

Brahmzy
10-21-12, 09:49
:o Patiently awaiting my .308 NSR rail.

Serpico1985
10-22-12, 13:47
***Mods, if this post doesn't fit in with this thread please delete or move.***

I just received my 13.5" NSR rail in the mail today and wanted to do some compare/contrast shots with the Daniel Defense MFR 12.0" it will be replacing. These rails are both similar in more ways than one. On a side note a big +1 for ROG Tactical out of CA. I ordered this rail at 3pm EST Saturday and it arrived today, great customer service too and free shipping.


Similarities
~Free floating
~Continuous top rail
~Slots for attaching accessories only where you need them
~Emphasis on weight savings and slim profile
~Made by reputable companies with a commitment to quality

Differences
~Barrel nut, with the NSR being theoretically more sturdy/a better attachment method
~Profile with DD being tublar while the NRS has squared but rounded corners
~NSR is lighter
~NSR has a anti-rotation pin built into it for those with Noveske/MUR upper receivers. Adds a little bit more peace of mind.
~NSR is shorter and thinner side to side than the DD MFR

Both rails use a very similar method of attachment for accessories. I included a couple of pictures at the bottom of this. It looks like the NSR is a more refined and compact method compared to the DD. Both do not require complicated or annoying backing plates that require removing the rail to install. DD only offers rail sections while the NSR offers direct mount accessories like the QD attachment. Hopefully other manufactures will start making direct mount parts as well.

No new information in my post but these rails are very similar and if anyone was trying to decide between the two this may help.

I'm getting this installed this week and look forward to the weight savings, even if it is small.


12.0" vs 13.5"
http://i46.tinypic.com/j9245t.jpg

width comparison:
http://i50.tinypic.com/33bh35v.jpg

http://i45.tinypic.com/11b3pmo.jpg

DD MFR internal profile:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2nm100y.jpg

NSR, ribbed for stiffness:
http://i49.tinypic.com/sm58wg.jpg

Beefy long NSR barrel nut, more than twice as long as the DD:
http://i45.tinypic.com/2rxk1vr.jpg

NSR accessory attachment:
http://i45.tinypic.com/b6antg.jpg

DD accessory attachement:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2l8yplf.jpg

Anti-rotation pin:
http://i48.tinypic.com/hs3yqd.jpg

Agile53
10-22-12, 14:28
Serpico thx much for a VERY detailed review/comparison, job well done.

Noodles
10-26-12, 14:11
I may have missed it, but is anyone drilling the hole for anti-rotation on their non-noveske uppers?

SteveL
10-26-12, 14:30
I may have missed it, but is anyone drilling the hole for anti-rotation on their non-noveske uppers?

I haven't seen mention of anyone doing so.

Brahmzy
10-26-12, 14:36
I may have missed it, but is anyone drilling the hole for anti-rotation on their non-noveske uppers?

No need IMO. They give you two sides of the barrel nut to get the perfect amount of torque. The rail's not going to rotate.

M4Fundi
10-26-12, 23:44
I may have missed it, but is anyone drilling the hole for anti-rotation on their non-noveske uppers?

I haven't heard of anyone yet, but would like to know if someone had a DIY method for making a template to do this.

bleaman225
10-27-12, 22:46
what brake is that?

Looks like a SF MB68K.

evi1joe
10-29-12, 15:52
The NSR 13.5 turned out to be a perfect excuse to cut and pin my brake. Just got it back from ADCO with a SF MB556K and NSR on it, and it's beautiful.
I'm 5'11", but I have short, T-Rex arms, and can still comfortably reach to the end of the rail...though about 2" back is more comfortable and allows me to mount sight & light forward of that so that my thumb can comfortably get behind them--this was always an issue with my old 11" TRX-E rails (that and trying to mount-move-remount-repeat the rails as I laid under the rail trying to balance everything). ;o)
In the spirit of the lightweight rail, I traded my STR for a CTR (though I may go back to an LMT/B5, which are almost the same as a CTR), ditched my EXPS for a T-1 (though after using a T-1 for 6 months, going back to EOs was weird anyway--a super fast reticle had become a bit too busy for me), and moved the TLR1 off for a GS mount with a 1xCR123 230lm.
The rifle's lost a pound or so (now if I could just lose 30, all would be right with the world).

Pics as soon as I get everything together (first post).

ETA: Okay, now that I've had a chance to install the rails, I can confirm, some rails are thumb-breakers...I thought people just had weak hands ("I just can't get the last round in the magazine"), but I had one handstop (small rail cover) that took 4 or 5 minutes to get on. I have a feeling that with a mallet and other tools and stuff, it could have been easier--can't wait for someone to discover the "easy-on" method. ;)

norinco982lover
10-29-12, 17:21
Where can I find a 13.5" in stock? I NEED ONE!

SteveL
10-29-12, 18:07
Where can I find a 13.5" in stock? I NEED ONE!

It appears Grant has them in stock.

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=NSR_RAIL&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3D%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html%26category%3DNRIF

Select 13.5" from the pull-down menu. If you've never bought from Grant before be assured he's top-notch.

wahoo95
11-01-12, 15:52
Installed one of the 13.5" Handguards and its a work of art....very well made! I do wish that they'd make mention of the anti rotation pin in the instructions.

Todd.K
11-01-12, 16:32
Okay, now that I've had a chance to install the rails, I can confirm, some rails are thumb-breakers...I thought people just had weak hands ("I just can't get the last round in the magazine"), but I had one handstop (small rail cover) that took 4 or 5 minutes to get on. I have a feeling that with a mallet and other tools and stuff, it could have been easier--can't wait for someone to discover the "easy-on" method. ;)

The panels are designed to be tight and stay put during hard use, so installation can be a bit tough. The best method is to heat up (hair drier or heat gun, avoid a torch) the panel, this makes it easier to install. A non marring tool like a small wooden or plastic block to apply pressure or give a few taps is a big help.

Todd.K
11-01-12, 16:53
Okay, now that I've had a chance to install the rails, I can confirm, some rails are thumb-breakers...I thought people just had weak hands ("I just can't get the last round in the magazine"), but I had one handstop (small rail cover) that took 4 or 5 minutes to get on. I have a feeling that with a mallet and other tools and stuff, it could have been easier--can't wait for someone to discover the "easy-on" method. ;)

The panels are designed to be tight and stay put during hard use, so installation can be a bit tough. The best method is to heat up (hair drier or heat gun, avoid a torch) the panel, this makes it easier to install. A non marring tool like a small wooden or plastic block to apply pressure or give a few taps is a big help.

Serpico1985
11-01-12, 17:37
wahoo95 ain't kiddin'. He installed my rail and once its on the rifle it's clear that it is well thought out. The front end is very light and nimble feeling unlike when I was running a stock SWS quad rail with a light, VFG and rail covers. That thing was like swinging a tank around. This set up seems to be faster in the hand (only initial impression, have to put it on a timer to be sure). Light weight, rock solid, minimalist spartan design. It's great.

http://i46.tinypic.com/5zgup1.jpg

sigluvr
11-03-12, 01:18
ok, so I ordered a rainier billet upper with the hole above the gas tube port for the anti-rotation pin. Now, how do I get the pin. I understand that Noveske is not shipping the NSR rail w/ a pin. I emailed Noveske but have not heard back.

I have several slave pins for a Geissle triggers, the diameter should be .154. Will they suffice?

UPDATE: My bad, I was mistaken. It appears that it comes with the pin. Thanks for the quick replies.

wahoo95
11-03-12, 01:25
ok, so I ordered a rainier billet upper with the hole above the gas tube port for the anti-rotation pin. Now, how do I get the pin. I understand that Noveske is not shipping the NSR rail w/ a pin. I emailed Noveske but have not heard back.

I have several slave pins for a Geissle triggers, the diameter should be .154. Will they suffice?

Just installed an NSR.....it came with the pin.

M4Fundi
11-03-12, 01:28
Just installed an NSR.....it came with the pin.

Me too... got the pin and didn't bother with it.

Serpico1985
11-03-12, 01:28
My NSR rail came with the pin. There is no mention of the pin in the instructions though. I can't take any measurements since its in the gun now.

grunz
11-03-12, 02:42
Here's mine. The 13.5 NSR replaced a 9" SWS Noveske rail.

http://i48.tinypic.com/2vl8zs7.jpg

Koshinn
11-03-12, 18:52
Why does Noveske sell a 14.5" barrel only with a 11" nsr? A 13.5" nsr on a 14.5" barrel would be great.

2nd.amendment
11-03-12, 19:09
Why does Noveske sell a 14.5" barrel only with a 11" nsr? A 13.5" nsr on a 14.5" barrel would be great.

Not sure why, probably just their preference. I know you can get them with the 13.5, because I went through a Noveske dealer to get a lightweight stainless steel 14.5 with 13.5 NSR and pinned battle comp.

Shouldn't be an issue, just contact your preferred Noveske dealer and have them put in an order swapping the 11" for a 13".

ROG Tactical
11-04-12, 11:06
Why does Noveske sell a 14.5" barrel only with a 11" nsr? A 13.5" nsr on a 14.5" barrel would be great.

As 2nd.Amendment stated, Noveske will configure a 14.5" upper with the 13.5" NSR if you request. Check with your favorite dealer or contact Noveske directly. If neither has them in stock, then it could be 6-12 weeks lead time...the current lead time I was given by Noveske. One reason it may not be an advertised option on Noveske's website is there might be clearance issues when configured with the 51T Blackout and used with a suppressor. I do not know this for certain, so don't quote me on that. Here are some pics of some 14.5" Noveske uppers with the NSR-13.5:


Noveske 14.5" Light Carbine 5.56mm w/ NSR-13.5 and AAC 51T Blackout

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pinned_51t_blackout.jpg


Noveske 14.5" Light Carbine 5.56mm w/ NSR-13.5 and BattleComp 1.5

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/img_2863_1.jpg


Noveske 14.5" Rogue Hunter 5.56mm w/ NSR-13.5 and BattleComp 1.5

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/4/14.5_rogue_hunter.jpg


Noveske 14.5" Afghan 6.8mm w/ Barrel Fluting, NSR-13.5 and BattleComp BABC

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/u/-/u-145p-68-n-7f-babc.jpg

Koshinn
11-04-12, 12:01
As 2nd.Amendment stated, Noveske will configure a 14.5" upper with the 13.5" NSR if you request. Check with your favorite dealer or contact Noveske directly. If neither has them in stock, then it could be 6-12 weeks lead time...the current lead time I was given by Noveske. One reason it may not be an advertised option on Noveske's website is there might be clearance issues when configured with the 51T Blackout and used with a suppressor. I do not know this for certain, so don't quote me on that. Here are some pics of some 14.5" Noveske uppers with the NSR-13.5:


Noveske 14.5" Light Carbine 5.56mm w/ NSR-13.5 and AAC 51T Blackout

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/i/pinned_51t_blackout.jpg


This is actually exactly what I'm looking for!

TACAV
11-04-12, 21:33
hmmmmm... I really love my 13.5" NSR on my 16" BCM Middy.

I'm considering sending off my Noveske 10.5" MK18 upper and having them swap the RIS II off and install a 9" NSR rail.
save me almost 9 oz (not including the barrel nut) and give me a sleeker package.

HaydenB
11-04-12, 22:16
hmmmmm... I really love my 13.5" NSR on my 16" BCM Middy.

I'm considering sending off my Noveske 10.5" MK18 upper and having them swap the RIS II off and install a 9" NSR rail.
save me almost 9 oz (not including the barrel nut) and give me a sleeker package.

DO IT.

evi1joe
11-04-12, 22:49
Yeah, my barrel is exactly 16" with a pinned SF MB556K brake, which is evidently longer than most (so I dont think my barrel is 14.5"--prolly 14 or 14.25"). It looks like there's only 1/4th inch or less between the brake and the end of the 13.5" NSR (unlike in those NSR pics, which have .5 inches or more of clearance).

I've been thinking about a suppressor, so I'm gonna check fitment this week. I can't remove anything except the forearm, so I may end up looking to trade for an 11" rail (I think more people wish their rails were longer rather than shorter--I know my TRX-Es, at 11", seemed a bit short). My T-Rex arms generally only go out 10.5-11.5" anyway....but it's nice to have room for your thumb without front sights and a light getting in the way.

Speaking of thumbs--the GOOD news is that feeling has finally returned to my right one, 3-4 days after installing the panels. The bad news is that I want to back all the panels up an inch or so...I don't own a hair-dryer, so here's to hoping they loosen up a bit with break-in.

norinco982lover
11-04-12, 23:35
Order placed with G&R...thanks guys!

2nd.amendment
11-04-12, 23:51
This is actually exactly what I'm looking for!

If you don't already have a favorite Noveske dealer, send Mike at ROG Tactical an email. He helped me out in getting my customized order in. There are a number of great vendors on M4C, but I have to say, the communication with Mike was hands-down the best I have experienced.

HaydenB
11-05-12, 16:52
If you don't already have a favorite Noveske dealer, send Mike at ROG Tactical an email. He helped me out in getting my customized order in. There are a number of great vendors on M4C, but I have to say, the communication with Mike was hands-down the best I have experienced.

I second this. I've placed numerous orders with Mike at ROG Tactical, including my NSR upper, all I can say is ROG Tactical is second to none.

ruf
11-05-12, 17:00
what brake is that?Surefire MB68K. It's a 6.8 brake that I use on 5.56, etc. I have them bored out when I put them on 7.62. Short and spiky. Barrel has to be threaded for 5/8-24.

Is there any update on the longer/est rifle gas length handguards? I've got a SAM-R barrel that needs clothes.

2nd.amendment
11-05-12, 17:56
Is there any update on the longer/est rifle gas length handguards? I've got a SAM-R barrel that needs clothes.

If you mean the 16.7s . . . I haven't seen the 16.7 NSRs pop up by themselves yet, but I would imagine they will be around soon. I have seen a complete 18" upper with a 16.7 NSR, I had to fight reaching for my wallet.

norinco982lover
11-05-12, 22:27
Order placed with G&R...thanks guys!

Nevermind...he emailed that he is out of stock too and it will be at least a week. Extremely disappointed:( I wanted this build done!

JSTICFRALL
11-07-12, 20:22
Recent shot of my setup with a 13.5" NSR. Seriously the best rail I've ever had experience with.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8165673532_a74b138746_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prairiefiremedia/8165673532/)
664458_369803983104846_1496691637_o (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prairiefiremedia/8165673532/) by Prairiefire Media (http://www.flickr.com/people/prairiefiremedia/), on Flickr

Amur
11-07-12, 20:45
I promise to bring a better picture next time.

One change I made since this picture was taken was to move the front sight back a little. It interferes when i want to go thumb over the top of the hand guard.

The NSR only makes the afghan that much better, that old rail was solid but not light and with the stainless barrel a little front heavy. Putting that 11" NSR on it makes it feel and balance great.

http://i49.tinypic.com/1z2k2gl.jpg

norinco982lover
11-07-12, 21:29
Recent shot of my setup with a 13.5" NSR. Seriously the best rail I've ever had experience with.

[img]http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8165673532_a74b138746_b.jpg[/img[/url
[url=http://www.flickr.com/photos/prairiefiremedia/8165673532/]664458_369803983104846_1496691637_o (http://www.flickr.com/photos/prairiefiremedia/8165673532/) by [url=http://www.flickr.com/people/prairiefiremedia/]Prairiefire Media[/url, on Flickr

Great photo!

I got my NSR Keymod sections in today....almost made me cry:D Hopefully my rail will be here in a week or two from Grant! (Nothing he can do about it...its all on noveske now!).

JSTICFRALL
11-08-12, 07:02
Thank you!

Ironman8
11-08-12, 08:08
Can anyone get me a measurement on the distance between the FRONT of a 13.5" NSR rail to the REAR of the muzzle device on a 16" barrel (as long as the muzzle device doesn't index over the barrel shoulder, then it doesn't matter which one you have)?

I'm trying to figure out whether I'd have the room to fit an Ops Inc M4S/M4M suppressor on the end with this setup.

Thanks!

SteveL
11-08-12, 08:44
Can anyone get me a measurement on the distance between the FRONT of a 13.5" NSR rail to the REAR of the muzzle device (as long as the muzzle device doesn't index over the barrel shoulder, then it doesn't matter which one you have)?

I'm trying to figure out whether I'd have the room to fit an Ops Inc M4S/M4M suppressor on the end with this setup.

Thanks!

Can we assume you're looking for measurements for the above setup on a 14.5" barrel?

Ironman8
11-08-12, 09:24
Can we assume you're looking for measurements for the above setup on a 14.5" barrel?

Sorry, thought I put in there that this is with a 16" bbl. I'll edit above as well. Thanks.

Serpico1985
11-08-12, 09:48
16" barrel with a vortex = about 1.90" clearance with my crappy digital calipers.

Edited to add: +\- .005"

SteveL
11-08-12, 10:20
Sorry, thought I put in there that this is with a 16" bbl. I'll edit above as well. Thanks.

Just making sure. I'm not home now but I'll get you a measurement from mine first thing in the morning if it will help you out.

SteveL
11-10-12, 18:03
Ironman I'm sorry I didn't get this up yesterday like I promised, but here it is.

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo98/fireman325/IMG_20121110_185846.jpg

HaydenB
11-13-12, 18:59
http://i1058.photobucket.com/albums/t403/hmbillick/nsr.jpg

Korgs130
11-14-12, 08:40
I ordered my Foliage Green Noveske 14.5" Light Carbine Upper with chrome lined cold hammer forged barrel, 13.5" NSR & Surefire FH556-212A (pinned) from Rainier Arms. Rainier Arms was really great to work with and took excellent care of me. Noveske gave me an delivery time of 8 weeks, 6 weeks for the custom upper and an additional 2 weeks for the custom color. I received the upper 5 and 1/2 weeks after placing the order.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/korgs130/DSC02727.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/korgs130/DSC02728.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/korgs130/DSC02729.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/korgs130/DSC02731.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t268/korgs130/DSC02734.jpg

Ironman8
11-14-12, 09:03
I coulda swore I posted thanking you guys (Steve and Serpico) for getting those measurements for me...I also thought there was a third guy that posted the same numbers...but can't find that either :confused:

Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to get that for me. I'll be picking up a 13.5" NSR sometime in the near future as it will work perfectly for what I want to do!

SteveL
11-14-12, 09:58
I coulda swore I posted thanking you guys (Steve and Serpico) for getting those measurements for me...I also thought there was a third guy that posted the same numbers...but can't find that either :confused:

Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to get that for me. I'll be picking up a 13.5" NSR sometime in the near future as it will work perfectly for what I want to do!

Glad I can be helpful for a change.

bleaman225
11-14-12, 11:20
I'd suggest not using the front NSR handstops as barricade supports/hooks. They don't seem to like it. Mine just falls out of the keyhole now. Hehehe oops. One only learns through trying.

Todd.K
11-14-12, 13:22
I'd suggest not using the front NSR handstops as barricade supports/hooks. They don't seem to like it. Mine just falls out of the keyhole now. Hehehe oops. One only learns through trying.

They are not designed for that much pressure being plastic. We do have a KeyMod K9 on the way.

bleaman225
11-14-12, 13:36
They are not designed for that much pressure being plastic. We do have a KeyMod K9 on the way.

No complaints Todd, I should have known better. I just wanted everyone to know I already played guinea pig on that one.

The KM K9 should be slick. Is it going to be able to mount both teeth forward and backward? Not certain if that would be a possibility but I was just imagining a K9 as a hand stop with teeth facing the magwell. Hook onto barrier and pull back for support.
I do realize that the K9 is intended to be utilized with teeth forward.

Todd.K
11-14-12, 13:58
We do have a rail mounted K9 with a rear hook, called the 7.62 model. From what I understand the NST only finds that to be an advantage with the heavier recoil of the 7.62.

bleaman225
11-14-12, 14:05
We do have a rail mounted K9 with a rear hook, called the 7.62 model. From what I understand the NST only finds that to be an advantage with the heavier recoil of the 7.62.

The hook on the 7.62 version sort of takes away from what I was thinking of using, or misusing, the K9 for. Mounted "backwards", I was looking at it as a handstop first and barrier support second. That was my reasoning on the forwards/backwards question. Truly is not a big deal. You don't need to dwell on it anymore Todd. Thanks for the follow up!

Todd.K
11-14-12, 17:03
You could run the regular rail mount K9 backward. You would also need a rail section to mount it on.
http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/k9-556_1d.jpg

bleaman225
11-14-12, 17:13
You could run the regular rail mount K9 backward. You would also need a rail section to mount it on.

I feel ya, that would definitely work it just seems like that route would defeat what I like most about the direct mount keymod. Low profile, less stuff to work loose, less weight so on... but I don't need to tell you all that haha
Thanks a lot for answering all this. I feel like I have wasted enough of your time.

Lopro619
11-16-12, 09:56
Quick question. Building a rifle with a 13.5 nsr, 14.5 inch barrel with a 51t blackout. Will a magpul UBR stock be too rear heavy with that setup? Love the look of the ubr on a rifle with an nsr rail on it but worried about the balance. Thanks in advance.

2nd.amendment
11-16-12, 10:04
Quick question. Building a rifle with a 13.5 nsr, 14.5 inch barrel with a 51t flash hider. Will a magpul UBR stock be too rear heavy with that setup? Love the look of the ubr on a rifle with an nsr rail on it but worried about the balance. Thanks in advance.

It's personal preference I suppose. But in my opinion, it would be more rear heavy than I would like. I have a Noveske 14.5 upper with pinned brake and NSR 13.5. I run it with an Aimpoint T-1 and I like how it handles with a Sopmod or Imod stock (I think a STR would also balance well). I still like the balance when I have a flashlight up front.

For context - I had a UBR on a carbine a few years ago (16" BCM middy) that weighed a bit more than this 14.5 and I still thought the UBR was a bit heavy for that upper (standard handguards).

Having said that, it's still possible you might like it, especially if you are going to mount anything heavy towards the front end.

Lopro619
11-16-12, 10:09
Thanks for the quick response. Looks like the UBR will be too heavy for my liking considering the only hardware I plan to mount up front would be the panels. Man, I really dig the look of the UBR too. Why does it have to be such a behemoth.

2nd.amendment
11-16-12, 10:36
No problem - glad it helped.

I agree about it being a heavyweight. I like the UBR concept a lot, I just tend to use lighterweight setups, so it hasn't worked for me. The UBR seems like it would be great for more of a precision rifle or to balance out a suppressor.

Noodles
11-16-12, 11:57
Thanks for the quick response. Looks like the UBR will be too heavy for my liking considering the only hardware I plan to mount up front would be the panels. Man, I really dig the look of the UBR too. Why does it have to be such a behemoth.

IMO, I like my STR stock more than the feel of the UBR. Coupled with the A5 extension/buffer/spring, the theory is it should work better as well. I would skip the UBR for a 14.5"+13.5" NSR any day of the week.

In other news... Does anyone have an approximate amount that a 12.5" barrel will stick past the NSR11?

ROG Tactical
11-16-12, 13:07
In other news... Does anyone have an approximate amount that a 12.5" barrel will stick past the NSR11?

There is just a fraction less than half an inch of barrel from the end of the 11" NSR to the back of the AAC 51T in the Noveske 12.5" LGP below:

http://s4e5fc2d16a332.img.gostorego.com/802754/cdn/media/s4/e5/fc/2d/16/a3/32/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/n/o/noveske_12.5_light_gp.jpg

ruf
11-19-12, 14:12
Todd - any updates on the 16"+ NSR? Thanks.

norinco982lover
11-19-12, 18:16
Larue PredatAR 18" takeoff barrel, unfired
BCM BCG with Larue bolt (matches barrel)
Colt upper receiver
Noveske NSR 13.5" rail with keymod sections and TRX swivel stud
Rainier Arms XTC Compensator
Harris 9-13" bipod
Weaver 3-10x40mm Midwayusa exclusive scope mildot turrets/mildot reticle
Butler Creek flip up caps

http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh617/norinco982lover/A5B1CCBE-1C0F-45E6-9A0D-3E9078347925-3586-0000046C2B62B992.jpg
http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh617/norinco982lover/CF958F36-65FB-40F0-ADEE-37CA4E9689C8-3586-0000046C311C4CEB.jpg
http://i1254.photobucket.com/albums/hh617/norinco982lover/3889EAA5-05FF-4F64-A3FC-ED3C11D6F7BD-3586-0000046C520C1425.jpg

M4Fundi
11-19-12, 22:52
Norinco looks good... but for that setup I would seriously take a look at getting one of these if you are going to spend alot of time prone behind that big glass

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-risr-ctr-combo

I'd love to see some long range groups from that badboy:)

norinco982lover
11-20-12, 10:56
Norinco looks good... but for that setup I would seriously take a look at getting one of these if you are going to spend alot of time prone behind that big glass

http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-tactical-risr-ctr-combo

I'd love to see some long range groups from that badboy:)

My RISR is on the way:D

edit: I'm a pretty poor shot and it took most of my outdoor range time trying to figure out how to work the scope but I did shoot a 2 shot group (yeah...2 shots aren't a group) touching on the target and then a 3 shot group (again, not a group but I was out of time) that were 1.4" apart at 100 yards off a bipod. That was with american eagle 55gr bulk crap I found in the bottom of the bucket. I'll have to wait til next week to try again.

SteveL
12-01-12, 12:32
Is there any new information on the light mounts?

Lopro619
12-02-12, 08:53
Do you have to remove the hand guard to install the QD Swivel Mount, and 1913 rails etc? If not how do you install them? Thanks in advance

SteveL
12-02-12, 11:07
Do you have to remove the hand guard to install the QD Swivel Mount, and 1913 rails etc? If not how do you install them? Thanks in advance

No need to remove the rail. The sling mount and rail sections slip into place in the keymod slots and have a nub on the back side to catch and hold them in place. They have their own incorporated screws that you tighten down to cinch them tight.

Koshinn
12-02-12, 23:40
Are they making a NSR for the new N6? Also, any news on the new N6?

2nd.amendment
12-03-12, 00:01
Are they making a NSR for the new N6? Also, any news on the new N6?

Guessing you may have already seen this, but just incase - I don't have any info on the N6, but there is the Mega MKM-MATEN that will be using the Keymod system. So there will be at least one option for a Keymod ready AR308 . . .

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2012/11/04/first-look-at-mega-arms-308-upper-receiver-mkm-maten/

LowSpeed_HighDrag
12-03-12, 00:28
Does anybody have a 13.5 in stock these days? Im ready to commit, but alas every store is sold out...

bigbang
12-03-12, 02:17
13.5 NSR looks great on a 14.5.

Stickman
12-03-12, 17:33
Do you have to remove the hand guard to install the QD Swivel Mount, and 1913 rails etc? If not how do you install them? Thanks in advance


You might want to check out what the keymod is all about. There is no need to remove the rail to install components.

adh
12-03-12, 19:27
13.5 NSR looks great on a 14.5.

Show us;)

86 slo-vo
12-03-12, 19:47
Will be picking one up soon for my 14.5 AR.

jaxman7
12-03-12, 20:28
Does anybody have a 13.5 in stock these days? Im ready to commit, but alas every store is sold out...

Wow. Just did a search for you LS and I found nada as well. Put in a email notification on DSG and Rainier to let you know when they're back in stock. That would probably be your best bet now.

-Jax

Koshinn
12-03-12, 21:31
Rainier had them in last week for like 12 hours. Ask me how I know :(

bigbang
12-03-12, 22:27
Show us;)Unfortunately I was referring to how it looks on other people's AR's. I'm still working on it but it will be a pinned 14.5 w/13.5 NSR. Soon. :D

Chrisdiz
12-04-12, 00:10
Does anyone know if a kx3 will fit under this rail?

2nd.amendment
12-04-12, 02:28
Unfortunately I was referring to how it looks on other people's AR's. I'm still working on it but it will be a pinned 14.5 w/13.5 NSR. Soon. :D

Here's mine. Just need to find the time to paint it.

I lucked out a got a lightweight 14.5 Noveske SS barrel. I always had a thing for the Afghan barrel but didn't like the weight. It's perfect for me, other than my Surefire being a VERY tight fit on the rail.

http://i1295.photobucket.com/albums/b628/2nd-Amendment/IMG_78672.jpg

cop1211
12-04-12, 02:43
Does anybody have a 13.5 in stock these days? Im ready to commit, but alas every store is sold out...

I'm in the same boat.

LowSpeed_HighDrag
12-04-12, 10:26
I'm in the same boat.


Rainier had them in last week for like 12 hours. Ask me how I know :(


Wow. Just did a search for you LS and I found nada as well. Put in a email notification on DSG and Rainier to let you know when they're back in stock. That would probably be your best bet now.

-Jax
So far, the list of companies that carry the NSR but are out of stock:
ROG Tactical
G&R "
Ranier
Riflegear
Midway
DSG

I've put in my email for a notification on all of those, and just like Jas said, you guys should all do the same.

Amur
12-04-12, 10:46
So far, the list of companies that carry the NSR but are out of stock:
ROG Tactical
G&R "
Ranier
Riflegear
Midway
DSG

I've put in my email for a notification on all of those, and just like Jas said, you guys should all do the same.

Also try tierone firearms out of NC i beleive. I have gotten a NSR upper from the recently.

Alex

soulezoo
12-04-12, 22:10
I just ordered a light reece upper with nsr a couple of weeks ago. I was told wait time was 12 weeks. Mostly for the rail from what I was told by the dealer. 8-10 weeks wait if I wanted a regular quad rail.

Popular stuff!

ScatmanCrothers
12-05-12, 09:53
So far, the list of companies that carry the NSR but are out of stock:
ROG Tactical
G&R "
Ranier
Riflegear
Midway
DSG

I've put in my email for a notification on all of those, and just like Jas said, you guys should all do the same.

Rainier was the first to notify me last go round. I was down on all of their lists and after about a 3 week wait Rainier sent the notification a couple days sooner than anyone else.

2 week turnaround time for shipping however, but they did let me know up front there could be a delay because of how busy they were.

Been building for years and have never liked a handguard so much. Great product, worth the wait.

Tier One Arms
12-06-12, 02:45
We carry them but are out of stock right now. Hope to have more in here by the end of the month.

norinco982lover
12-06-12, 08:47
Thanks for the picture of the 13.5 on the 14.5 barrel.

I'm switching the NSR from my precision build on page 41 to a new upper with a 14.5 LW Daniel defense barrel and pinned battlecomp 1.5"

Parts should be here next week.

2nd.amendment
12-06-12, 08:55
Thanks for the picture of the 13.5 on the 14.5 barrel.

I'm switching the NSR from my precision build on page 41 to a new upper with a 14.5 LW Daniel defense barrel and pinned battlecomp 1.5"

Parts should be here next week.

That sounds like it should be the makings of a very nice and lightweight upper.

The way I have mine now, it is right at 6 lbs without a mag and still feels great with BUIS, light, sling, and loaded mag.

Looks like your precision build would be a good candidate for the 16.7 NSR . . .

Atsownz
12-07-12, 02:08
Does anyone have a picture of them using the nsr hand stop setup? I would like to see where the hand sits using this setup.

Swamp Yankee
12-07-12, 06:47
Anyone have experience with the following set up?

-14.5" Barrel
-13.5" NSR Rail
-AAC 51T Brake
-AAC M42K or 762-SDN-6
-Surefire X300/X300U Mounted @ 12 O'Clock Position

I am currently shopping around for my first suppressor and building an upper to accommodate it and the NSR rail. I am in a ban state, so regardless of barrel length the muzzle device must be pinned and welded. I would hate to purchase this set-up and then find that the can will not fit properly and have to scrap a brand new muzzle device.

Toyoland66
12-07-12, 23:24
I know this was discussed briefly earlier in the thread but not much response. Are there any concerns with the lack of anti rotation, and has anybody drilled their upper to install the anti rotation pin?

2nd.amendment
12-07-12, 23:26
I know this was discussed briefly earlier in the thread but not much response. Are there any concerns with the lack of anti rotation, and has anybody drilled their upper to install the anti rotation pin?

I have a couple of these and helped install another one for a friend. I don't see anyone torquing the barrel nut off with their hands when properly installed. I don't see the need to add the antirotation pin if the upper isn't already drilled.

norinco982lover
12-08-12, 08:08
I look at it this way, if you aren't worried about a standard barrel nut twisting than why would you worry about this one?

I realize it doesn't have the gas tube holding it in place (that's a joke) but if it isn going anywhere than it isn't going anywhere!

If I was mechanically inclined and had a cheaper upper I woul probably drill it just because...but I'm not touching this colt at the moment.

LoneStarM1A
12-08-12, 14:19
Does anyone know how the weight of the 11" NSR + nut compares to the weight of the old SWS 11" + nut?

I.E. how much weight savings could one expect when swapping an SWS 11" for an NSR 11"? I'm guessing about 6 oz but I haven't been able to find an accurate weight for the SWS 11 anywhere I've searched and don't yet have the ability to remove mine and weigh it.

Edit: I managed to locate this thread https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=30410 in which the sws 11" rail is said to weigh 14oz and the sws barrel nut is 5 oz for a total of 19oz, compared with the stated weight of 10 oz combined nut and rail for the NSR. That would be a 9 oz weight savings which is pretty significant.

grunz
12-08-12, 22:02
I dont know in your case, but when I went from a 9" SWS to a 13.5NSR I still saved a lot of weight.

If you can, go with the 13.5 NSR vs the 11 NSR.


Does anyone know how the weight of the 11" NSR + nut compares to the weight of the old SWS 11" + nut?

I.E. how much weight savings could one expect when swapping an SWS 11" for an NSR 11"? I'm guessing about 6 oz but I haven't been able to find an accurate weight for the SWS 11 anywhere I've searched and don't yet have the ability to remove mine and weigh it.

Edit: I managed to locate this thread https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=30410 in which the sws 11" rail is said to weigh 14oz and the sws barrel nut is 5 oz for a total of 19oz, compared with the stated weight of 10 oz combined nut and rail for the NSR. That would be a 9 oz weight savings which is pretty significant.

Aaron_B
12-09-12, 01:10
Just ordered the NSR 9 from Grant and waiting for the 13.5 to come in stock somewhere.

Waiting to see what the scout light mounts are going to be like, since I just picked up one of those as well.

SteveL
12-09-12, 06:32
Just ordered the NSR 9 from Grant and waiting for the 13.5 to come in stock somewhere.

Waiting to see what the scout light mounts are going to be like, since I just picked up one of those as well.

I'm anxious awaiting these as well. Hopefully they won't be too much longer.

LowSpeed_HighDrag
12-09-12, 17:37
IWC is in the process of churning up accessories for the NSR, I'm excited to see what they come up with.

SteveL
12-09-12, 23:33
IWC is in the process of churning up accessories for the NSR, I'm excited to see what they come up with.

I know they've been working on something for a while as well. As it is right now my Scout light is laying in the top of my safe so I'll probably grab whichever mount comes available first.

LowSpeed_HighDrag
12-16-12, 01:06
I hear rumors that NSR's will be back in stock this week at many retailers...

bigbang
12-16-12, 01:11
I hear rumors that NSR's will be back in stock this week at many retailers...
Oooh, I hope so! My buddy is supposed to start ordering parts for my stick and an NSR is on the short list. :D

Aaron_B
12-16-12, 05:23
I hope so, I still am looking for a 13.5. I just got my NSR 9 installed on my 11.5 SBR. Hopefully I'll make it to the range and also get some pics soon.


I hear rumors that NSR's will be back in stock this week at many retailers...

86 slo-vo
12-16-12, 13:04
I'm waiting. Been looking all over.

soulezoo
12-16-12, 13:14
Be advised also that the 4" and 9"rails are virtually non-existant.

ROG Tactical
12-16-12, 13:16
Be advised also that the 4" and 9"rails are virtually non-existant.

There are still some 4" rails out there;)



Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2

soulezoo
12-16-12, 13:42
Well, I did write "virtually"

soulezoo
12-16-12, 13:43
Well, I did write "virtually" :)

Xenogy
12-16-12, 14:34
I know this was discussed briefly earlier in the thread but not much response. Are there any concerns with the lack of anti rotation, and has anybody drilled their upper to install the anti rotation pin?

I did because it's cheap insurance and my father-in-law is a machinist that would make it perfect.

Turned out great and I'm glad I did it, just like I'm glad I pinned my gas block and staked the castle nut.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/12/17/6ynazunu.jpg

Sayhber100
12-18-12, 11:27
Is there a timeline for releasing the longer rail? Thanks!

Aaron_B
12-18-12, 12:39
New NSR 9 (wish they made a 10 inch) on 11.5 inch barrel. Still waiting and debating for light setup.

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy249/aaronwbunch/100_3399.jpg

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy249/aaronwbunch/100_3402.jpg

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/yy249/aaronwbunch/100_3397.jpg

2nd.amendment
12-18-12, 12:43
Is there a timeline for releasing the longer rail? Thanks!

Some have already been bought/sold. I know RogTac had some 16.7 rails a week or two ago - not sure if they have shown up anywhere else yet.

Sayhber100
12-18-12, 16:08
I got mine, now go get yours!

Todd.K
12-18-12, 17:14
Is there a timeline for releasing the longer rail? Thanks!

They have already started going out, the website will get updated when we get pics.

SteveL
12-18-12, 17:26
They have already started going out, the website will get updated when we get pics.


Any update on the light mounts?

dseduce
12-19-12, 21:21
Great rail, I have a 9" on a 10.5" bbl lightweight setup. Barrel nut is awesome and very sturdy with alot of surface contact to the rail...which i believe helps with heat dissipation because i have run this gun hard and have nkt had a problem with overheating.

jaxman7
12-21-12, 19:50
Any luck with finding NSRs fellas? Been sporadically checking a few sites for y'all and nada.

-Jax

Aaron_B
12-21-12, 19:56
None at all, still waiting on a 13.5 to come up. I would imagine they will go quick when they are in stock, cause some dickface getting his first AR is going to think they need it for maximum accuracy when SHTF.

jaxman7
12-21-12, 20:00
Yeh,

I mainly meant looking for 13.5s b/c I assume most want that length. I can find the carbine length but that's it. I may be in this boat too on a build that has
me pondering a 9" NSR.

-Jax

Aaron_B
12-21-12, 20:05
I do enjoy my 9 inch on my SBR. I managed to get out the last 2 days and do some shooting and really like how it felt in my hands. Only thing i didn't like, is I put to much pressure on the the handstop and it popped off. I think my buddy dicked up the locking tab.

Aaron_B
12-21-12, 20:07
That and I am still waiting for a scout light mount :mad:

Brahmzy
12-21-12, 20:12
Any luck with finding NSRs fellas? Been sporadically checking a few sites for y'all and nada.

-Jax

Pretty sure almost all NSRs are going on factory guns at this point. My guess is Noveske has seen more factory gun orders in the last few weeks that they know what to do with...literally.

86 slo-vo
12-24-12, 13:16
I'm about to give up on one of these and get a DD MFR.

Been waiting a month!

jaxman7
12-24-12, 14:00
Pretty sure almost all NSRs are going on factory guns at this point. My guess is Noveske has seen more factory gun orders in the last few weeks that they know what to do with...literally.

Yeh that does make perfect sense.

-Jax

soulezoo
12-24-12, 14:05
Yeah, I ordered my upper a month ago from Noveske. I just got all the lower parts put together too. How prescient of me. Now if only I had stocked up on mags when I was at the gun show last month too...

bigbang
12-24-12, 22:16
Any luck with finding NSRs fellas? Been sporadically checking a few sites for y'all and nada.

-Jax
Nope. I've been looking for a while now for a 13.5 NSR. Absolutely nada.

I would appreciate a lead on one if anyone knows where I can get one!

Lopro619
12-26-12, 03:23
So just got a set of panels with my Recon upper. Is this some sort of joke? A bag of panels only fits the bottom and one side of the handguard. Am I missing something here?

nickdrak
12-26-12, 05:17
Not a joke. If you want to cover the entire handguard with covers then you can purchase more covers. Most prople only place the covers where they place their support hand on a consistent basis.

TMcGuff
12-27-12, 17:28
if only someone had them in stock!

no2sc2
12-27-12, 18:39
When are Silencerco releasing Saker?

Lopro619
12-27-12, 20:44
When are Silencerco releasing Saker?

what do you mean

SteveL
12-27-12, 21:13
When are Silencerco releasing Saker?

What's this got to do with the NSR?

packers
12-27-12, 21:22
Cant wait till panic buying settle down. So they ll prob be in stock sometime soon in the future. I have been wanting to get me a noveske rail for my build some time.

HaydenB
12-28-12, 01:34
Cant wait till panic buying settle down. So they ll prob be in stock sometime soon in the future. I have been wanting to get me a noveske rail for my build some time.

I assure you the wait will be worth it. This thing is the tits.

packers
12-28-12, 10:11
I assure you the wait will be worth it. This thing is the tits.

Ya im sure it will. Just hope it wont be too long. Have a great weekend!

GJM
12-29-12, 20:51
Just got my 6.8 Noveske Rogue upper with the NSR rail. Love the rail!

If this upper shoots as well as my current Rogue with the VTAC rail, I will be a very happy camper.

Brahmzy
12-31-12, 08:57
Just got my 6.8 Noveske Rogue upper with the NSR rail. Love the rail!

If this upper shoots as well as my current Rogue with the VTAC rail, I will be a very happy camper.

Nice. My NSRs are still rockin' - love 'em. Any idear how far out Noveske is on uppers? Full rifles?

soulezoo
12-31-12, 11:27
The last I spoke to my dealer about that question, which was about the first of Dec, Noveske was 12 weeks out on both uppers and full rifles (he called them right then and let me hear the answer on speaker phone from them directly).

Since then, times are changed and I am sure the lead time has not gotten smaller.

Todd.K
01-09-13, 20:15
http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/km-slm_4d.jpg


http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=km-slm&cat=184&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=

bigbang
01-09-13, 20:17
http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/km-slm_4d.jpg
Todd, I'd love to buy a complete Noveske built AR. Can you hook me up? :D Seriously.

2nd.amendment
01-09-13, 20:33
Looks good and looks like these are available for preorder . . .
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=km-slm&cat=184&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=


http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/km-slm_4d.jpg


http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=km-slm&cat=184&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=

SteveL
01-09-13, 21:23
Excellent. This is exactly what I've been waiting for.

TRUST8383
01-09-13, 22:15
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/NOVESKE/IMG_3096_zps0f4d5c1f.jpg

jaxman7
01-10-13, 04:51
That is a thing of beauty.

Thinking of and praying for you guys Todd.

-Jax

alecks
01-10-13, 13:56
Took me a bit to realize what that was. The light looks good on the NSR, I need to upgrade!
https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=14805&d=1357847798

Aaron_B
01-10-13, 16:36
And yes...looks very good. Will be picking one of those up when available.

Spikele
01-10-13, 23:55
$50? Wow, straight up jacking us.

doriwoogie
01-11-13, 00:05
$50? Wow, straight up jacking us.

$50 seems pretty reasonable. That's what I paid for my Gear Sector and the 2 Haley mounts. Hell, I have a LT752 I paid 95 for (got a dillo and some dillo dust with it though).

nml
01-11-13, 02:13
When's your version coming out and how much cheaper will it be?

og556
01-11-13, 08:20
That looks excellent !

I can't wait to get my hands on one.

SteveL
01-11-13, 19:07
$50? Wow, straight up jacking us.

I was pretty excited to see that it's $50. I was expecting $60-$70.

SteveL
01-11-13, 19:09
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/NOVESKE/IMG_3096_zps0f4d5c1f.jpg

What are we looking at here?

redfernsoljah
01-11-13, 22:49
looks like an inforce pistol light

TRUST8383
01-12-13, 12:27
What are we looking at here?

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae253/JFLOINDUSTRIES/NOVESKE/IMG_3092_zps9b2a89d5.jpg

Lopro619
01-12-13, 12:50
NSR 13.5 I just got back from the cerakoter. Done up in magpul fde

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/6985/394d075b28214d0bab4a4f2.jpg

SteveL
01-12-13, 13:12
looks like an inforce pistol light

Thanks for the clarification.


NSR 13.5 I just got back from the cerakoter. Done up in magpul fde

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/6985/394d075b28214d0bab4a4f2.jpg

Very nice.

skywalkrNCSU
01-12-13, 15:18
NSR 13.5 I just got back from the cerakoter. Done up in magpul fde

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/6985/394d075b28214d0bab4a4f2.jpg

Really like that

wahoo95
01-12-13, 15:20
NSR 13.5 I just got back from the cerakoter. Done up in magpul fde

http://imageshack.us/a/img820/6985/394d075b28214d0bab4a4f2.jpg

Who did the cerakote?

Lopro619
01-12-13, 16:09
Who did the cerakote?

Red Creek Tactical out of Utah. Was a real pita to get it in my hands tho. Took like 8 weeks, was about to lose my mind

Lopro619
01-13-13, 07:20
http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/km-slm_4d.jpg


http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=km-slm&cat=184&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=

about to put my polymer panels on my nsr and trying to figure out how many slots to leave empty up front. Can't tell, but does this mount use 2 or 3 slots? Thanks in advance.

Koshinn
01-13-13, 07:57
about to put my polymer panels on my nsr and trying to figure out how many slots to leave empty up front. Can't tell, but does this mount use 2 or 3 slots? Thanks in advance.

2 by the look of it

Todd.K
01-14-13, 11:54
If you don't want to have to take of the panels to mount it you should leave three slots open.

420ollie
01-14-13, 12:17
Anyone got a pic of a 13.5" rail on a 16" barrel and the 16.7" rail on 16" barrel?

Will there be FDE models available soon? I like this setup to try in place of my 15" Alpha rail. It seems like a lack of accessories for it at the moment. I still like it considering that.

jerrysimons
01-14-13, 13:29
Sorry if this is a dumb question but will the Scout mount also work with the shorter M300A?

BTW, the aesthetic combination of the Gen 2 lower, MUR upper, and NSR rail is superb. Way to make innovative, practical, bomb-proof, parts that also look amazing together Noveske!

nml
01-14-13, 14:39
Anyone got a pic of a 13.5" rail on a 16" barrel and the 16.7" rail on 16" barrel?http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=16-556-n&cat=123

16.7 obviously you have a little bit of muzzle device sticking out otherwise it will look like a gun with really long handguard...

Todd.K
01-14-13, 14:42
The M300 uses the same base from what I was told.

jerrysimons
01-15-13, 10:02
The NSR now in 15"!

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2013/01/15/noveske-extends-the-nsr-lineup-with-15-and-16-7-offerings/#more

Agile53
01-15-13, 11:46
The M300 uses the same base from what I was told.

Todd thx for taking the time to reply here, this is good news for us M300 users.

This middle-aged TXN is keeping a good thought for you folks up there in GP.

2nd.amendment
01-16-13, 10:18
13.5 NSR in stock at Noveske - haven't seen them available in a while.

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=nsr-135&cat=164&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=

fallenromeo
01-16-13, 16:30
13.5 NSR in stock at Noveske - haven't seen them available in a while.

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=nsr-135&cat=164&page=1&search=&since=&status=&title=

out of stock. :shout:

PhoPoweR
01-16-13, 18:00
Got my uppper today really like the NSR rail

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/phopower/IMG_5640_zps0047583e-1_zps5e9d7fcd.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/phopower/IMG_5631_zps1d8a7b48-1_zps313744a8.jpg

RHINOWSO
01-16-13, 21:54
I'd kill for an NSR-9 right now...

ARonBoard
01-16-13, 22:27
How long did those 13.5s last. I've been looking for one for months.

Spikele
01-16-13, 23:29
Nick you can post them if you want. But thanks for asking first:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7155/6723126101_b34cae5f2a_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7172/6723125689_dd7b7896ca_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7009/6723125995_07e0d669e8_b.jpg

Looks sleek, light-weight. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH?

Famine
01-17-13, 00:06
With the URX 4 and other companies releasing Keymod rails we should start to see a lot more accessories available for the NSR. I'm glad this idea by Noveske and VLTOR has seen widespread adoption rather than being another proprietary mounting system.

jerrysimons
01-17-13, 20:25
13.5" NSR over the Afghan.
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/accidentprone86/DSC03867_zps6f04c060.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/accidentprone86/DSC03874_zps147e7972.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/accidentprone86/DSC03872_zpsfe412b88.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/accidentprone86/DSC03868_zps038271aa.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a24/accidentprone86/DSC03864_zpsffe8b361.jpg

jaxman7
01-21-13, 18:07
Todd K,

Do you fellas have any plans to make a mid length FSP cutout version of the NSR?

Something along the lines of Centurion's C4 midlength cut out rail.

If not, I am pondering 'making one' from a 11" NSR. If I can eventually find a sample..

Thanks Todd,

-Jax

nml
01-21-13, 19:28
Looks sleek, light-weight. HOW MUCH? HOW MUCH?I'm going to guess $259.95 for that 11" but that is just a ballpark estimate................. ............................................. ................................ ...............................

Stickman
01-21-13, 22:49
15" & 16.7" NSR rails...


http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2013/01/15/noveske-extends-the-nsr-lineup-with-15-and-16-7-offerings/

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/files/2013/01/STCK0151-mt.jpg

Brahmzy
01-21-13, 22:51
That's a LOT of rail. I just need another 9 & I'm good.

Todd.K
01-22-13, 10:34
That's a LOT of rail. I just need another 9 & I'm good.

That is what I thought too. But there is very little weight added going a few inches longer with an NSR.

For the NST shooting on, over, and through barricades all the time they don't have to worry about barrel contact.

There are also plenty of people who just prefer longer handguards for the look.

Todd.K
01-22-13, 10:38
Todd K,

Do you fellas have any plans to make a mid length FSP cutout version of the NSR?

We are going to try to catch up with demand right now. It is something that has a good chance of being made at some point.

madisonsfinest
01-22-13, 12:16
I can't wait to buy the 13.5 NSR rail! sold out everywhere currently

EchoHotel
01-22-13, 15:16
Nice slim profile

420ollie
01-22-13, 15:24
15" & 16.7" NSR rails...


http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2013/01/15/noveske-extends-the-nsr-lineup-with-15-and-16-7-offerings/

http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/files/2013/01/STCK0151-mt.jpg

Are those in the white?

bigbang
01-22-13, 15:48
Got my uppper today really like the NSR rail

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/phopower/IMG_5640_zps0047583e-1_zps5e9d7fcd.jpg
http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o219/phopower/IMG_5631_zps1d8a7b48-1_zps313744a8.jpgNice stick!

jaxman7
01-22-13, 16:58
We are going to try to catch up with demand right now. It is something that has a good chance of being made at some point.

Gotcha. Thanks Todd.

-Jax

Stickman
01-22-13, 19:29
Are those in the white?


Yes they are. I don't think Todd ordered up any polished Bling-King variants, but you never know... :D

Brahmzy
01-22-13, 19:36
Yes they are. I don't think Todd ordered up any polished Bling-King variants, but you never know... :D

I could see Jansen rockin' the chrome look. Oh. :D

420ollie
01-22-13, 22:03
Yes they are. I don't think Todd ordered up any polished Bling-King variants, but you never know... :D

That would be nice. It would look sick with it gold plated. They should have done a small run like this.

Brahmzy
01-22-13, 22:53
That would be nice. It would look sick with it gold plated. They should have done a small run like this.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwh1qiOu211qgy9i3o2_500.gif

Not sure if serious.

420ollie
01-23-13, 10:48
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwh1qiOu211qgy9i3o2_500.gif

Not sure if serious.

:sarcastic:

Burnt bronze would be nice but I would pick one up in FDE to replace my Alpha rail.

HaydenB
01-24-13, 16:37
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=u-lgpr-556-gl&cat=176&page=1&search&since&status&title

12.5" NSR uppers W/O BCG or CH at Noveske.

skeebinz
01-24-13, 18:20
http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=u-lgpr-556-gl&cat=176&page=1&search&since&status&title

12.5" NSR uppers W/O BCG or CH at Noveske.

Was this at any point in stock since they added it?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

HaydenB
01-24-13, 21:35
Was this at any point in stock since they added it?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It was when I posted it. :/

Todd.K
01-25-13, 09:54
A ring mount for handheld lights will be next. It keeps the light in about the same position as the Scout and there will be a few sizes for different lights.

bleaman225
01-25-13, 10:30
A ring mount for handheld lights will be next. It keeps the light in about the same position as the Scout and there will be a few sizes for different lights.

Couldn't come at a better time!

SteveL
01-25-13, 12:50
Are the Scout mounts still on track to ship in the next week or two?

wilson1911
01-25-13, 13:19
Midway has 13.5 rails in stock now. HURRY !!!!!

Koshinn
01-25-13, 13:40
Midway has 13.5 rails in stock now. HURRY !!!!!

Not in stock

ARonBoard
01-25-13, 13:42
Had one in my cart but decided I didn't actually NEED it. Hopefully one of you got it.

This "panic" has me buying things just to have them.

Koshinn
01-25-13, 13:46
Had one in my cart but decided I didn't actually NEED it. Hopefully one of you got it.

This "panic" has me buying things just to have them.

Had one in my cart, hit checkout, put in CC info, then said it wasn't in stock anymore.

Defender3
01-25-13, 13:58
Wow, I ordered two at 2:31pm and just came here to spread the word to find they're already out.

Two guys on TOS are advertising that they have 10 each and asking upwards of $700...:eek:

wilson1911
01-25-13, 14:02
I just happened to be browsing as part of my daily routine and saw them. I bought 2 and decided to tell some others. Sorry you did not get one. I missed the last lot that went to Rainier Arms.

Brahmzy
01-25-13, 14:02
Two guys on TOS are advertising that they have 10 each and asking upwards of $700...:eek:

LOL!!! Wow. I REALLY REALLY REALLY need a 9 & 11.


I just happened to be browsing as part of my daily routine and saw them. I bought 2 and decided to tell some others. Sorry you did not get one. I missed the last lot that went to Rainier Arms.

And we very much appreciate it.

GJM
01-25-13, 14:03
Just put a NSR rail on my 6920 upper and it transformed a rather chunky upper into a sleek handling unit. The NSR is far and away the best rail I have touched, and I have a bunch of different ones!

Defender3
01-25-13, 14:12
I'm low speed and high drag, but I did order a Geissele MKI and MKII, as well as two of the Noveske NSRs. I want to try them on some builds to see which I prefer. I'm not sure about the keymod...

wilson1911
01-25-13, 14:33
Where did you find a Geissele ? I have been crawling all over the the net for any keymod rail, with Noveske being first choice. Midway was the only place that I saw anything. After I ordered, I immediately went to 4 more sites to see if anything had come in and nothing.

I also ordered a mams yesterday and almost ordered the new kac urx4 rail, but they did not know when they were going to release any. The diameter of the kac looks like it may be larger. My hands are not that big with long fingers so Noveske looked better. Let me know how they pair against one another.

Sean W.
01-25-13, 14:33
I'm low speed and high drag, but I did order a Geissele MKI and MKII, as well as two of the Noveske NSRs. I want to try them on some builds to see which I prefer. I'm not sure about the keymod...

What aren't you sure about? Just curious.

Defender3
01-25-13, 14:46
What aren't you sure about? Just curious.

I'm just leary about a new feature when there's an established standard, in this case the 1913 rail. As an early adopter, you always have to wonder if everyone else will make the investment in design and tooling to catch up and how long it may take to get the accessories you need. Having an orphan device is no fun and having a proprietary device is expensive. I'm not saying this will be the case with Noveske, but I really have to get one in my hands to see if the form, fit and function work for me. If not, they'll be on the EE.

Aaron_B
01-25-13, 15:05
Just chked midway, said available for 13.5 and everything went through!!!

HaydenB
01-25-13, 15:08
Just chked midway, said available for 13.5 and everything went through!!!

Congratulations! You must be a very happy man!

Aaron_B
01-25-13, 15:10
Pretty much, been waiting for several months now. Now I can finish off my colt 6720 with this.

Lopro619
01-25-13, 15:13
I'm just leary about a new feature when there's an established standard, in this case the 1913 rail. As an early adopter, you always have to wonder if everyone else will make the investment in design and tooling to catch up and how long it may take to get the accessories you need. Having an orphan device is no fun and having a proprietary device is expensive. I'm not saying this will be the case with Noveske, but I really have to get one in my hands to see if the form, fit and function work for me. If not, they'll be on the EE.

Guess you haven't been reading the last few pages. Looks like plenty of solid accessories are on the horizion

Defender3
01-25-13, 15:35
Guess you haven't been reading the last few pages. Looks like plenty of solid accessories are on the horizion

I've read them, I was simply replying to the question I was asked. I ordered two of Geissele's and two of the Noveske's and I'll see which I prefer. Part of the decision may be the accessories, their cost and the proprietary nature (at least for now) of the keymod system against the investment I already have in 1913 styled mounts.

bigbang
01-25-13, 15:35
Just chked midway, said available for 13.5 and everything went through!!!Alright! I just ordered a 13.5 too from Midway. Sweet!

Brahmzy
01-25-13, 15:40
3 more left - better hurry!

ARonBoard
01-25-13, 15:41
3 more left - better hurry!

Why are they trying to get in my wallet!!!!!!'

Sean W.
01-25-13, 15:48
I'm just leary about a new feature when there's an established standard, in this case the 1913 rail. As an early adopter, you always have to wonder if everyone else will make the investment in design and tooling to catch up and how long it may take to get the accessories you need. Having an orphan device is no fun and having a proprietary device is expensive. I'm not saying this will be the case with Noveske, but I really have to get one in my hands to see if the form, fit and function work for me. If not, they'll be on the EE.

I agree. When I first bought it I should have had the same thoughts going through my mind. This was my first free float handguard. I find it comfortable to hold and extremely lightweight compared to a MOE and standard 2 piece handguards. This being my first modular handguard I can't compare it to others but I find the keymod system easy to use. I was, at one point, worried that anything mounted to the system would slide off with the right amount of force but all the accessories have a locking tab that prevents this. Seeing other handguards on the market that use the keymod system does make me confident that there will be more parts and accessories on the market.

I'd like to know which one you like more when you do get them.

nickdrak
01-25-13, 17:04
Just chked midway, said available for 13.5 and everything went through!!!

I guess their notification system doesnt work. ****ing bummer:(

HaydenB
01-25-13, 18:20
12.5" upper w/ 9" rail, w/o BCG or CH in stock at Noveske.

http://noveskerifleworks.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?item_id=u-lgpr-556-fr9&cat=176&page=1&search&since&status&title

polkhigh
01-25-13, 20:27
Riflegear dot com has the NSR rail in stock. Just ordered a 13.5 and received confirmation. Good luck.

Stickman
01-25-13, 20:58
I've read them, I was simply replying to the question I was asked. I ordered two of Geissele's and two of the Noveske's and I'll see which I prefer. Part of the decision may be the accessories, their cost and the proprietary nature (at least for now) of the keymod system against the investment I already have in 1913 styled mounts.


Chief, I hope you are doing well. Once you try the NSR Keymod I think you will like it. My personal guess is that as soon as we start seeing throw levers for the Keymods, the industry will start taking them as a mainstream item. Then again, with Noveske, KAC, Mega, CMMG, Krebs Custom and others on board already, I don't think the design is in any danger of falling out of favor or production.

Brahmzy
01-25-13, 21:22
Riflegear dot com has the NSR rail in stock. Just ordered a 13.5 and received confirmation. Good luck.

Shit, so I was able to add a 9" to my cart and check out the whole way. I really hope it was actually in stock!

Thanks! I think!

Koshinn
01-25-13, 22:20
Does a chopped fsb fit under an nsr?

militarymoron
01-25-13, 22:38
Does a chopped fsb fit under an nsr?
yes, but takes more than just chopping. i've pics of what i had to do to mine in my writeup:
http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/ar.uppers5.html#nsr

Koshinn
01-25-13, 22:51
yes, but takes more than just chopping. i've pics of what i had to do to mine in my writeup:
http://www.militarymorons.com/weapons/ar.uppers5.html#nsr

Would you suggest just getting a low profile gas block then?

advan031
01-25-13, 23:51
Managed to order a 13.7 NSR from Riflegear...thanks for the heads up!

Lopro619
01-26-13, 00:04
Managed to order a 13.7 NSR from Riflegear...thanks for the heads up!

13.7?

Defender3
01-26-13, 09:09
Chief, I hope you are doing well. Once you try the NSR Keymod I think you will like it. My personal guess is that as soon as we start seeing throw levers for the Keymods, the industry will start taking them as a mainstream item. Then again, with Noveske, KAC, Mega, CMMG, Krebs Custom and others on board already, I don't think the design is in any danger of falling out of favor or production.

Hey Brother Stick - thanks for the thoughts, I'm doing fine. I had to divert from SHOT to attend to an ailing (and stubborn) parent, but life is good.

I have two of the Noveske's inbound along with a Geissele MKI, and I already have a Geissele MKII in my hands. I have to touch, feel and then mull over how I feel before I make up my mind. :D I have two ARs that need to be upgraded and three uppers that need to be built, so no matter how I feel about the rails, they'll be used somewhere! It's good to have options.

Brahmzy
01-26-13, 11:44
Anybody know if RifleGear actually had any 11's in stock? Or Midway? Seems Noveske must've sent out a slew of 13.5s to various places.

Sentaruu
01-26-13, 14:36
Anybody know if RifleGear actually had any 11's in stock? Or Midway? Seems Noveske must've sent out a slew of 13.5s to various places.

i havent seen any in stock for a couple of weeks, midway says they expect the 11's back in stock in april :blink:

its crazy

militarymoron
01-26-13, 21:06
Would you suggest just getting a low profile gas block then?

i wanted to retain the pinned gas block so that's why i cut it down. if you don't mind going to a setscrew gas block or having to send the assembly out to get it pinned, then a low pro gas block is the way to go.

bigbang
01-27-13, 05:01
Awesome, I just got notification my 13.5" NSR rail shipped from Midway. :D

Koshinn
01-27-13, 05:12
i wanted to retain the pinned gas block so that's why i cut it down. if you don't mind going to a setscrew gas block or having to send the assembly out to get it pinned, then a low pro gas block is the way to go.

After reading your article on the vltor clamp on gas block, I think I'll go with clamp on. Reasons being it's protected by the rail and I can retain the original hardware incase I need to send it in to s&w for any reason. But will the holes from the taper pins negatively impact barrel harmonics now that there are no pins in it?

superuk
01-27-13, 07:10
notification from midway also!

nickdrak
01-27-13, 15:22
Anyone know if a KX3 will fit inside of the NSR?

I'm thinking of a 15" NSR with a pinned/welded KX3 on a 14.5" middy barrel.

2nd.amendment
01-27-13, 15:26
Anyone know if a KX3 will fit inside of the NSR?

I'm thinking of a 15" NSR with a pinned/welded KX3 on a 14.5" middy barrel.

Nope - wont fit.

militarymoron
01-27-13, 17:32
After reading your article on the vltor clamp on gas block, I think I'll go with clamp on. Reasons being it's protected by the rail and I can retain the original hardware incase I need to send it in to s&w for any reason. But will the holes from the taper pins negatively impact barrel harmonics now that there are no pins in it?

i'm not able to fit the vltor clamp-on low profile gas block under the NSR - the screw heads make contact with the inside of the rail. that's why i mentioned the set screw version. no - don't worry about the taper pin holes affecting the barrel.
now - i'm not sure how set screws will work with with your taper pin holes though.

Benito
01-28-13, 02:33
What the H??
I've had a 13.5 NSR on backorder AND notification for over a month.
Just checked, no change in status. Tells me it's be back in stock in 3 months from now. Date keeps getting pushed back.
I know that part's not their fault, but considering I already put in an order, they should have shipped once receiving some stock.
Urghhh.

wilson1911
01-29-13, 00:18
I am not sure what is happening to most of the sites web software, but I am not getting any in-stock mails either. I get on the pc and check sites throughout the day, gotta love tabs. I missed Midway's BCG's also because of this. I just happened to be one and saw them in stock.

advan031
01-29-13, 23:07
Received my 13.5 NSR today from Riflegear. I didn't realize this rail was this slim and light!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8327/8428155071_0be6a3cf09_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8429247188_7e036066ba_b.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8332/8429246550_5463dd3e42_b.jpg

Going on my Noveske Recce replacing the 11" SWS rail.

Aaron_B
01-29-13, 23:27
I can't wait to get my 13.5 should be here tomorrow. Good thing I am off the next 2 days so I can get it installed. I think it is going to work out great on my 6720. Now time to start putting money away for a 1.5 acog.

P2000
01-29-13, 23:32
advan031,

It looks like they lightened up the barrel nut compared to my NSR purchased when they first came out. Your pic shows material removed from the middle portion. Cool!

bigbang
01-31-13, 14:53
Just received my 13.5 NSR rail from Midway. Very nice rail!

Brahmzy
01-31-13, 14:55
Just received my 13.5 NSR rail from Midway. Very nice rail!

Anybody know where I can find an 11? I've got a brand new 13.5 I'd trade stright up! Cannot find an 11 anywhere to save my life.

bzdog
01-31-13, 21:09
Does anyone make an unlimited rotation QD for Keymod?

Thanks,

-john

Lopro619
01-31-13, 23:51
some fde nsr love on the dedicated Noveske .22 AR

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/5172/img0089os.jpg

jaxman7
02-03-13, 03:00
Barrel nut has definitely been altered from the NSR I purchased last year.

-Jax

paintballswimguy
02-04-13, 15:55
Has anyone seen an 11" in stock lately.
I went ahead and backordered at DSG arms. But who knows when that will ship...