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Plasman
06-24-13, 21:06
I do have one issue though. Does anyone else have wobbly NSR rail cover panels? I have 2 or 3 that are just loose and it's bugging me, one of the hand stop ones at the start of the chain wobbles all over the place. I have to contact Noveske about it, but wanted to check and see if I was doing something wrong.

Only the individual piece panels wobble, and they stop if I put a locking panel on the stack. I ditched the Noveske hand stop for an IWC Keymod hand stop (http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/weapon-control-mount-n-slot-keymod-hand-stop/). The Noveske ones are too slippery for me.

SteveL
06-25-13, 09:17
I'm really surprised there's still no VFG or stubby available for it yet.

Brahmzy
06-26-13, 09:59
In your opinion, since the light does sit a little lower, would you comfortably be able to reach the tailcap switch if the light was on the opposite side of the rail from your support hand?


I couldn't get to it if it was on the other side - I've got fairly large hands and it would be too much "palm-over-bore" for me.


Thanks, and congrats on the baby girl.

Thanks man! Quite a life change for sure, but she's awesome!


exactly what surefire light is that, and what size keymod rings did you get from noveske. Seeing this makes me want that mount/light for my NSR. Thank you in advance.

It's just a cheapo Surefire G2X-C-BK (320). I've got some nicer lights (BCM's P2X Fury EAG's on another rifle, Scouts etc.) but the G2X's are just so stinkin' light, (ba dum pshhh).

Ironman8
06-26-13, 10:08
Thanks for the response Brahmzy. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case, but had a feeling you would say that. Damn. Back to the drawing board.


And I've got a 7mo niece and she's a trip to be around!

grunz
06-26-13, 13:25
Thanks for the response Brahmzy. I was hoping that wouldn't be the case, but had a feeling you would say that. Damn. Back to the drawing board.

Ironman, I run a light on the opposite side of my support hand on my NSR. The way I do it is to use a Gear Sector light mount attached to NSR with small piece of Magpul MOE rail. The Gear Sector light mount places the light higher up than the Noveske mount. Please not that I dont run any rail panels so it keeps tht rail very slim. I can activiate the light even when wearing gloves.

Here is a picture of my setup:

http://s22.postimg.org/hqtfnp6yp/Light_Picture.jpg

Agile53
06-26-13, 13:31
Grunz would really like to see the entire NSR upper, digging the rattle can paint & lite mount, happen to have a larger pic available?

grunz
06-26-13, 13:35
Thanks! Here is one more pic.

http://s17.postimg.org/s4w0hafm7/image.jpg

Ironman8
06-26-13, 14:39
Ironman, I run a light on the opposite side of my support hand on my NSR. The way I do it is to use a Gear Sector light mount attached to NSR with small piece of Magpul MOE rail. The Gear Sector light mount places the light higher up than the Noveske mount. Please not that I dont run any rail panels so it keeps tht rail very slim. I can activiate the light even when wearing gloves.

Here is a picture of my setup:

http://s22.postimg.org/hqtfnp6yp/Light_Picture.jpg

Thanks for the pic of the light setup. I figured that I would have to do a rail section along with an offset mount. The question is just which offset mount would clear the body of the laser. Some mounts tuck the light too far into the 12:00 rail. That GS mount looks like it doesn't though...

Is that a SF Fury?



Thanks! Here is one more pic.

http://s17.postimg.org/s4w0hafm7/image.jpg

Very nice paint job!

Agile53
06-26-13, 14:44
Thx for the additional pic., it looks VG.

Email into you & hopefully we can get someone to produce a stubby VFG for the NSR like Steve asked about above.

grunz
06-26-13, 15:19
Thx for the additional pic., it looks VG.

Email into you & hopefully we can get someone to produce a stubby VFG for the NSR like Steve asked about above.

Thanks again!

With respect to the VFG I found that I dont need one with the 13.5"NSR rail as I did with my old 9" Noveske SWS traditional quad rail.

grunz
06-26-13, 16:00
Thx Ironman.

Yep, that's a Fury. What laser are you running?

If you wanted the light even more offset from 12oc you might play with direct mounting the Gear Sector mount on the 12 rail - but it will make it a bit harder to reach the button and of course he mount may conflict with the laser depending on where you put it.

Im a civilian and i have not invested NODs yet so I haven't tried to figure out mount a DBAL I2 or similar with this light where it is. I can see the light body getting in the way of the visible laser beam on a DBAL.

nml
06-28-13, 07:53
Noveske's Scout mount makes for a very slick setup. Sits nice and snug with folding BUIS.

LoneStarM1A
07-22-13, 01:26
Does anyone have tips on how to get the locking rail cover panels off? I've tried sliding the rim of a 5.56 (and 7.62) case under the rear locking part and it still doesn't budge. Is there any trick to it?

evi1joe
07-22-13, 01:44
I did that with one hand, while using the other to push and pry with a thin flat head screwdriver from the other side. A third arm helps if you can tap the head of the screwdriver with a hammer and force them backwards. Sometimes I pry then tap/push then pry, repeat.
Always works within 20seconds, still not easy.
Good luck.

LoneStarM1A
07-22-13, 02:01
Okay, using a flathead screwdriver instead of a 5.56 case rim under the locking teeth works great. I had to slide the screwdriver under the teeth then use the other end of the screw driver as a lever to pry the locking panel off. It worked pretty well. Unfortunately I scuffed up one of the keymod holes on the bottom of my rail messing around with the brass 5.56 case. The screwdriver works with no scuffs.

jaxman7
07-22-13, 06:01
I will put the buttstock of the rifle/rear of the upper against something to keep it from sliding back. Pry up on the locking tab and push down and forward until it unlocks. This is with new panels. Ones that have been taken off a time or two are much easier.

-Jax

ROG Tactical
07-23-13, 20:10
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LoneStarM1A
07-23-13, 21:26
Pretty happy with mine:

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae219/randomperson8008/nsr.jpg

It's a good 12 oz lighter than it was with the factory SWS rail. With an Aimpoint H1 on a Larue LT660, plastic covers, one rail section, one NSR QD swivel stud piece, two QD swivels, and a TLR-1s light it's 7 lbs 7 oz. That's probably the best thing about the NSR, you can run a decent bit of gear on the carbine and still come in under 7.5 lbs.

Noodles
07-24-13, 18:15
Pretty happy with mine:

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae219/randomperson8008/nsr.jpg

It's a good 12 oz lighter than it was with the factory SWS rail. With an Aimpoint H1 on a Larue LT660, plastic covers, one rail section, one NSR QD swivel stud piece, two QD swivels, and a TLR-1s light it's 7 lbs 7 oz. That's probably the best thing about the NSR, you can run a decent bit of gear on the carbine and still come in under 7.5 lbs.

12oz is a BIG change. That's got to be noticeable. My 12.5 carbine came out to 6.8 unloaded with H1, but where I'm loving the NSR is my 16" SPR...

I came out to 8.8lbs as shown but with a different optic.
http://s22.postimg.org/doizpzi2p/IMG_1452c.jpg

I just wish there was a good way to mount left and right side QD up front on the rail. I'll probably just have to buy two rail mounted ones as there isn't space with the panels and light to run keymod sections. Kinda makes me want an NSR with 7 keymod runs vs 3.

Rockhopper
07-24-13, 22:58
use a flat head screw driver to pry up the tabs and then simply tapping the panels with a rubber mallet works well taking them off.

TOM1911
07-25-13, 10:35
When new, anything other than a single is a bitch to unlock.. My procedure uses a polymer cartridge dummy, like the ones Magpul sends out with some of their accessories, and a plastic scraper. You unlock the lock tabs with the cartridge base then, force the scraper between the joint of the panels.. Should unlock enough that pushing with finger pressure will free the panel. You just need to do a couple of install/remove cycles to acclimate the Keymod studs of the panels, to make them easier to move.

Jaysop
07-28-13, 11:37
Now that these things have been out for a little while has anyone encountered any issues with durability or performance?
The lack of anti roto without drilling is kind of a downside.

How would this rail stand up to extended abuse? Is its bolt up system as solid as something like a RISii?
Is there any noticeable flex in the rail? I'd like to be able to rely on a mounted BUIS as a primary sight if the need were to arise?
I wish I knew someone local who had one.

Hmac
07-28-13, 11:42
Now that these things have been out for a little while has anyone encountered any issues with durability or performance?
The lack of anti roto without drilling is kind of a downside.



2500 rounds through mine, no performance issues. Locks up well, no flex. My only complaint is that it gets hot in extended firing. The plastic Noveske panels help a little. Noveske panel + gloves makes it not a problem.

Jaysop
07-28-13, 12:14
2500 rounds through mine, no performance issues. Locks up well, no flex. My only complaint is that it gets hot in extended firing. The plastic Noveske panels help a little. Noveske panel + gloves makes it not a problem.

With how light weight it is it makes me doubtful of how rigid it is. I know I'm being pessimistic :)

I think this may be the ticket. Looking at the pics of the BCM rail on ARFCOM it looks bulky and looks like it secures from the top and not the bottom. The 6 screws on the NSR leads me to believe it won't shift off the barrel nut.

Did you drill your upper for the anti roto pin?

Hmac
07-28-13, 12:26
With how light weight it is it makes me doubtful of how rigid it is. I know I'm being pessimistic :)

I think this may be the ticket. Looking at the pics of the BCM rail on ARFCOM it looks bulky and looks like it secures from the top and not the bottom. The 6 screws on the NSR leads me to believe it won't shift off the barrel nut.

Did you drill your upper for the anti roto pin?

No. My experience with the well-known and trusted DD Lite rail I had on the rifle previously leads me to conclude that that anti-rotation pin is unnecessary. The NSR, in my experience is a good rail that accomplishes the purpose I had in mind...smaller diameter therefore better grip (for me), and lighter. I got the NSR to accomplish those two specific goals. Buying into the latest accessory fad wasn't a goal. I had to pay a little price (heat), but that hasn't been enough of an issue for me in practical use.

I have no reason to expect that the BCM rail won't function well too, but I'm skeptical that it would bring enough extra to the table that I'd dump my NSR for it. Time will tell though.

I perceive no difference in rigidity of my NSR 9 compared to the DD Lite 9.0 that I was using before on the same rifle. I do perceive a big difference in handling.

wilson1911
07-28-13, 12:46
I am not sure why so many people are worried about the anti-rotation pin or overall performance. Let me first state that I have a KAC that I put a NSR on, a Noveske'd mur upper that's pinned, a BCM with one and I have no issues what so ever with the rail torquing or coming loose or moving. Anyone that has installed the rail will tell you that most of the time they require 65-75 lbs the lining up for the gas tube. All screws are locktited down. That being said, if you are using your ar for a pry bar or a leverage device, yes it will flex and twist.

I am on the band wagon for the performance and feel of the rail. As I stated in BCM's thread on their new rail, it does have flaws. Nothing is perfect but a compromise of many different things.

The panels are less than perfect, but yes they do work. Yes, I would like to see a heat shield, but how are you going to mount it to the inside and not have it interfere with anything ? i.e. keymod holes.

In a recent carbine class that I took with Costa, under all conditions the rail performed flawless. It never got really hot, but very warm.

Almost all rails get hot under sustained fire, the NSR is no exception. Gloves are the answer for this. This is why we see all the bad ass ninja guys with gloves on. I used motorcycle gloves that are very thin and had 0 problems, well even taking them off. Learning to shoot with gloves on is a feat to be mastered. I will say it does make the whole expeirence of shooting much better, you just have to learn how to manipulate your weapon all over again.

I have 7 or 8 rails I think, kind of got on a buying spree after the first one. I am currently changing out the 13.5" for 15" rails when I find them. You will not be disappointed if you decide to try one. The worst part of having one is the rail panels, get some extra hehe.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/198.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/198.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/197.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/197.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/196.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/196.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/194.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/194.jpg.html)

wilson1911
07-28-13, 13:54
Well said, the rail changes so much about how the rifle points and overall feel. I believe 1913 rails are old school now. There is no need for all that rail, except on the top. The single biggest factor on seeing these take a huge share of the market is going to be on who can come up with the best attachments.

Jaysop
07-28-13, 16:28
Thank you for the feed back. I agree that the rail really influences the way the rifle handles. The way it allows you to place your hands and hold the rifle matters.

My concerns were that it wasn't going to be as solid as its larger, heavier counterparts. Seems like you guys fully trust these things. Key mod is still new and there will be improvements on it in the future I'm sure.
It might be the right one for me.

Looking at how people have been setting these up it seems that a light in the 12:00 position is preferred. Being that these are so narrow, has a 9:00 mounted pistol light of a 11:00 been found to be less than convienent?

Hmac
07-28-13, 16:40
Thank you for the feed back. I agree that the rail really influences the way the rifle handles. The way it allows you to place your hands and hold the rifle matters.

My concerns were that it wasn't going to be as solid as its larger, heavier counterparts. Seems like you guys fully trust these things. Key mod is still new and there will be improvements on it in the future I'm sure.
It might be the right one for me.

Looking at how people have been setting these up it seems that a light in the 12:00 position is preferred. Being that these are so narrow, has a 9:00 mounted pistol light of a 11:00 been found to be less than convienent?

I prefer a detachable light and don't keep it on the rifle unless needed. I usually use a TLR-1 at the 12:00 position in front of the flip-up sight. Sometimes I'll use a Surefire light in a VLTOR lever-detach mount that connects to a small picatinney section at 3:00.

grunz
07-28-13, 17:30
My barrel nut did rotate a bit, I thought about drilling he upper, but before doing that we torqued it down again with a bit of red loctite and its been solid since. Ill see how bad the loctite is when it comes time to change the barrel but that's a ways off.

Bottom line is the NSR is solid and helped me save a ton of weight while increasing capability of the rifle.

As of the BCM rail ill probably buy one as I'm betting BCM will be selling a 14.5 middy LW upper with it - and that's my next wanted setup to try. :).

Jaysop
07-28-13, 19:29
My barrel nut did rotate a bit, I thought about drilling he upper, but before doing that we torqued it down again with a bit of red loctite and its been solid since. Ill see how bad the loctite is when it comes time to change the barrel but that's a ways off.

Bottom line is the NSR is solid and helped me save a ton of weight while increasing capability of the rifle.

As of the BCM rail ill probably buy one as I'm betting BCM will be selling a 14.5 middy LW upper with it - and that's my next wanted setup to try. :).

What was it torqued to during the initial install? How far did it back off and under what kind of conditions?
Are you particularly hard on your rifles? Also how did you notice it rotated? I'm assuming the alignment of the top rail was a good indication.
And lastly what kind if set up are you running, manufactures and what not.

I'm sorry for the battery of questions. Just a concern with such a light part rattling off.

NeoNeanderthal
07-28-13, 19:50
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How do you like the KAC thumb rest?

grunz
07-29-13, 01:58
What was it torqued to during the initial install? How far did it back off and under what kind of conditions?
Are you particularly hard on your rifles? Also how did you notice it rotated? I'm assuming the alignment of the top rail was a good indication.
And lastly what kind if set up are you running, manufactures and what not.

I'm sorry for the battery of questions. Just a concern with such a light part rattling off.

The ft/lbs was within the spec, definitely higher than the min recommended.

The rail rotated less than 1/16 inch off center as seen from top rail.

I guess I'm rough, I've been shooting a lot of rapid fire strings while gripping rail hard.

Rail only has the following on it:
NSR QD mount (left side)
Surefire Fury
Troy front BUIS

Gun is original full NOVESKE from 2009. beore the NSR It had the Noveske SWS rail with same type of BBL nut (and no pin) which gave me ZERO problems. I just think maybe this was a fluke that the NSR bbl nut rotated.

I'm happy now.

P2000
07-29-13, 19:00
The ft/lbs was within the spec, definitely higher than the min recommended.

The rail rotated less than 1/16 inch off center as seen from top rail.

I guess I'm rough, I've been shooting a lot of rapid fire strings while gripping rail hard.

Rail only has the following on it:
NSR QD mount (left side)
Surefire Fury
Troy front BUIS

Gun is original full NOVESKE from 2009. beore the NSR It had the Noveske SWS rail with same type of BBL nut (and no pin) which gave me ZERO problems. I just think maybe this was a fluke that the NSR bbl nut rotated.

I'm happy now.

Was a torque wrench used for the install?

CharlieMike
07-31-13, 11:59
Sent in a Noveske MUR back to Vltor for warranty service. I got the upper back in record time. I had to disassemble and reassemble the upper for the customer.
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-001.jpeg
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-002.jpeg
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-003.jpeg
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-004.jpeg
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-005.jpeg
https://www.boltcarrier.com/images/marks-nsr-006.jpeg

Jaysop
08-08-13, 18:38
So odd question. The place where I'm about to order my NSR from only has the tan rail covers in stock. Can they be dyed black or is it some material unlike what Magpul uses?
Also am I going to need to buy two sets to properly cover both sides? Seems like the math doesn't add up on that one.

jpmuscle
08-08-13, 18:52
So odd question. The place where I'm about to order my NSR from only has the tan rail covers in stock. Can they be dyed black or is it some material unlike what Magpul uses?
Also am I going to need to buy two sets to properly cover both sides? Seems like the math doesn't add up on that one.

Just krylon them? And yes you'll need two depending on how much of the rail you want to cover.

Lopro619
08-08-13, 19:11
So odd question. The place where I'm about to order my NSR from only has the tan rail covers in stock. Can they be dyed black or is it some material unlike what Magpul uses?
Also am I going to need to buy two sets to properly cover both sides? Seems like the math doesn't add up on that one.

Just get black ones. I've seen them in stock in multiple spots

madisonsfinest
08-08-13, 19:16
It depends on the length of the rail you have. I used about 2 and a half packages to cover my 13.5" NSR

This is my kid shooting it. As you can see I'm not using any where the afg is, but I have some in front of and behind it. Magpul ladder rail cover on the top

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/MaDiSoNsFiNeSt/IMG_8501_zpsd1871575.jpg (http://s32.photobucket.com/user/MaDiSoNsFiNeSt/media/IMG_8501_zpsd1871575.jpg.html)

Jaysop
08-08-13, 20:23
It depends on the length of the rail you have. I used about 2 and a half packages to cover my 13.5" NSR

This is my kid shooting it. As you can see I'm not using any where the afg is, but I have some in front of and behind it. Magpul ladder rail cover on the top

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d14/MaDiSoNsFiNeSt/IMG_8501_zpsd1871575.jpg (http:w//s32.photobucket.com/user/MaDiSoNsFiNeSt/media/IMG_8501_zpsd1871575.jpg.html)

That looks pretty good. I just want to protect my hands and add some grip to it. How's that AFG mounted?

Jaysop
08-08-13, 20:29
Just krylon them? And yes you'll need two depending on how much of the rail you want to cover.

Dyed polymer wont chip or flake off. It's a more permanent solution.
I just want enough to cover the two sides and bottom where my hand will sit. Like how most people have it. Seems odd Noveske wouldn't sell them in packs with enough to do that.

As for getting the black ones, I'm just trying to get it all in one place to save shipping.



Btw where are people getting wrenches from? I dont really want to spend that much for a snap on version. Seems like the amazon ones are to thick.
I did a google search and it appears that a lot of people on TOS are just using regular crescent wrenches and winging it on torque.

madisonsfinest
08-08-13, 20:48
Nsr keymod rail section. 9 slot I think

NeoNeanderthal
08-08-13, 23:12
Dyed polymer wont chip or flake off. It's a more permanent solution.

Btw where are people getting wrenches from? I dont really want to spend that much for a snap on version. Seems like the amazon ones are to thick.
I did a google search and it appears that a lot of people on TOS are just using regular crescent wrenches and winging it on torque.

I got some foliage green ones and dyed them with rit dye, you could never tell. As far as the wrench goes
http://www.amazon.com/Sunex-97736-2-Inch-8-Inch-Crowfoot/dp/B002YKD45M/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1360702964&sr=8-4&keywords=crowfoot+wrench+1+1+8

Someone on here said that one works and i have it bookmarked for when i install my rail. I haven't gotten it or used it yet so, can't give you much more info than that.

jpmuscle
08-09-13, 01:07
Dyed polymer wont chip or flake off. It's a more permanent solution.
I just want enough to cover the two sides and bottom where my hand will sit. Like how most people have it. Seems odd Noveske wouldn't sell them in packs with enough to do that.

As for getting the black ones, I'm just trying to get it all in one place to save shipping.



Btw where are people getting wrenches from? I dont really want to spend that much for a snap on version. Seems like the amazon ones are to thick.
I did a google search and it appears that a lot of people on TOS are just using regular crescent wrenches and winging it on torque.

I hear ya on the shipping but it seems like way more work just to save a few bucks. Noveske has black in stock. Grab a shirt too and your gtg lol

Bsully
08-09-13, 08:21
Btw where are people getting wrenches from? I dont really want to spend that much for a snap on version. Seems like the amazon ones are to thick.
I did a google search and it appears that a lot of people on TOS are just using regular crescent wrenches and winging it on torque.You can find them on Ebay on the cheap every now and then..

Or take a grinder to the junk ones to thin em up a bit.

If your in a jam and need one I have a Snap on crowsfoot I can lend ya

just send it back when your done with it.

Thanks

Hmac
08-09-13, 08:42
It is only a minor annoyance to grind down a cheap crowfoot from Amazon. Took me about 10 minutes. I would have gone with the Noveske version but they weren't available back then. Since, I have heard some expressions of disappointment with the Noveske crowfoot.

CharlieMike
08-09-13, 08:47
It is only a minor annoyance to grind down a cheap crowfoot from Amazon. Took me about 10 minutes. I would have gone with the Noveske version but they weren't available back then. Since, I have heard some expressions of disappointment with the Noveske crowfoot.
This. I used a bridgeport but a dremel would have gotten the job done. I know someone who actually bent one of the noveske wrenches -- he's a good guy and not prone to doing stupid things (at least not often) which leads me to believe that the wrench is a POS.

LoneStarM1A
08-14-13, 22:04
Another picture of my rifle with the NSR and covers installed:

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae219/randomperson8008/hdconfig.jpg

nml
08-14-13, 23:47
Torque wrench at 30 ft-lb, torque nut, make note of distance to go, swap ends, torque nut, if less to go use this side otherwise swap around. switch to 1-1/16 combination and torque to center. no bent crowfoot, no?

Amur
08-15-13, 00:08
Another picture of my rifle with the NSR and covers installed:

http://i973.photobucket.com/albums/ae219/randomperson8008/hdconfig.jpg

So light...so handy. I love the NSR. I have 2 14.5"s. one a chrome lined with a T1 and the second: an afghan with 1x4.

I got them both right before John passed. The NSR Afgan to me is about the pinnacle of the AR at the time of him passing. (At te time pretty much the first and only keymod rail) So well balanced with that sick barrel and the Gen 2 lower is probably my favorite lower ever.

Tipping a beer Right now. Pics tomorrow when not on the iPhone!

Hmac
08-15-13, 05:15
Torque wrench at 30 ft-lb, torque nut, make note of distance to go, swap ends, torque nut, if less to go use this side otherwise swap around. switch to 1-1/16 combination and torque to center. no bent crowfoot, no?

It took me every bit of 80 ft-lbs to get the nut to index. It didn't bend my ground-down $6 Sunex crowfoot. I don't know how the Noveske crowfoot would have stood up.

Onyx Z
08-15-13, 09:00
I bought an open end wrench at the auto parts since that's the only place I could one that large around me. I'm not sure on the torque, but once I flipped the nut and made a few passes, it was well under 80 ft/lbs on my MUR upper.

Hmac
08-15-13, 09:15
I bought an open end wrench at the auto parts since that's the only place I could one that large around me. I'm not sure on the torque, but once I flipped the nut and made a few passes, it was well under 80 ft/lbs on my MUR upper.

Yep. I used moly grease, tighten-loosen-tighten-loosen-tighten-loosen, flipped the nut....all that stuff. 80 ft-lbs. It was a Noveske receiver.

jerrysimons
08-18-13, 14:25
I know some of you have had success with the Noveske Troy TRX bipod mount on the NSR but has anyone tried to mount the IWC MOE bipod mount, given the NSR can use the MOE backing plates?

http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/bipod-mount-v2/

1slow01Z71
09-01-13, 21:17
Has anyone seen a 16.7 in stock within the last couple months? Ive had my notifications set up since June on the normal sites and got nothing. I was able to pick up a 13.5 recently from Rainier, they seemed to get every size except the 16.7.

wilson1911
09-01-13, 21:27
they just had a 16.7 in stock two days ago, you must have missed it.

Rainier Arms

1slow01Z71
09-01-13, 22:31
Must have, the last notification I have is from 5/31 when they came in stock but I didn't have the cash at the time to order it. TO add insult to injury I just made and order with them on Tuesday and it wasn't in stock then.

tw4
09-02-13, 20:58
Just got my 10.5 Noveske with the 9' NSR- LOVE IT!!!!

wilson1911
09-09-13, 19:01
Grant has a few in stock atm.

And here is a little porn for you guys.


KAC Rifle
mams brake
NSR rail
T1 with KAC battery cap
BCM grip
ms3 sling
Noveske k9
panel set
Kac thumb stop
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/194.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/194.jpg.html)

Ryno12
09-09-13, 19:29
Has anyone seen a 16.7 in stock within the last couple months? Ive had my notifications set up since June on the normal sites and got nothing. I was able to pick up a 13.5 recently from Rainier, they seemed to get every size except the 16.7.

Did you try looking at Noveske directly? I ordered one about 5 min ago.

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jpmuscle
09-09-13, 20:29
Dat mams :eek::eek:


:D

1slow01Z71
09-10-13, 07:59
Did you try looking at Noveske directly? I ordered one about 5 min ago.

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Thanks for the heads up. I ended up snagging one from Rainier late last week. For some reason my notifications from Rainier aren't working but I just happened to be looking and it was in stock.

og556
09-11-13, 21:30
Any updates on the heat shield for this ?

tw4
09-21-13, 18:33
2 of a kind!
[URL=http://imageshack.com/i/2oebpwj]http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/96/ebpw.jpg

tw4
10-05-13, 21:12
OK I have been shooting Noveske for a while and upgraded to the NSR when my uppers were ready. So I looked around and there were no noveske 9mm NSR's so what the hell--- of course the barrel, bolt mag block, are not Noveske- but the rest is. putting the A2 on it when it get here.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/42/iu79.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/16iu79j)
]http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/841/mkrb.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/ndmkrbj)

berserker
10-05-13, 22:35
OK I have been shooting Noveske for a while and upgraded to the NSR when my uppers were ready. So I looked around and there were no noveske 9mm NSR's so what the hell--- of course the barrel, bolt mag block, are not Noveske- but the rest is. putting the A2 on it when it get here.
http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/42/iu79.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/16iu79j)
]http://imageshack.com/scaled/800x600/841/mkrb.jpg (http://imageshack.com/i/ndmkrbj)

What length rail and barrel?

tw4
10-05-13, 22:43
What length rail and barrel?

Its a 16" barrel, 11" NSR.

It was a very cheap throw together.
NSR 11"
Noveske Chainsaw lower/ upper
MOE furniture
Spikes mag block
Hahn buffer
YHM barrel and bolt
Noveske BCM mod 4 charging handle
Noveske QD end plate
QMS trigger

All parts were haggled or traded for - total $900

Strykeback
10-14-13, 14:40
Did anybody's rail not match up against the receiver flush?

I couldnt find a crow's foot narrow enough or large enough for the nut so I used a gator grip/ vise grip style wrench that once hand tight I had to loosen and tighten 3 or 4 more times to get it to index to the next hole. Seems solid. I used Molly grease, got worried since I tried it both sides and started worrying I had cross threaded it since the last time I flipped it and got it on the side its at now, it was kinda gritty to start and had to get it passed a point til it smoothed out. Its a mega upper with a 15" nsr on a 16" N4 barrel. As soon as I get it back in a vice to get another turn on the xtc brake so that its timed correctly, Il hope its tight enough with the first few rounds.

tw4
10-14-13, 15:44
Well its 1 1/16 I used a snap on brand- it would be your barrel that is keeping the nut from threading further down to be closer to the receiver. Might need to put in in a lythe and take 1-2 thousands off or remove any barrel shims used.

And dont use a gator wrench.

sevin8nin
12-11-13, 20:58
This is an out there question, maybe Stickman knows: Anyone know if an AAC SPR/M4 MITER mount flashhider will fit with a 16" barrel and 13.5" NSR handguard?
Or if it will fit better pinned to a 14.5" barrel with an 11" handguard?

I'm thinking about another build to go with my SPR can.

Spookydude
12-29-13, 00:19
I'm pretty certain the 16" w/ NSR-13.5 won't work. If I remember correctly, you need about 2.625-2.75" of clearance. 14.5" w/ NSR-11 would leave you about 3/4" space between the can and rail. These numbers are approximate based off of a bad memory, if you need exact numbers I can measure when I get home (FYI: I have a 12.5" w/ NSR-9 with SPR/M4 on the "Hollister" style MITER brake).

karmapolice
12-29-13, 09:12
I love my 11" NSR on my 12.5" gun

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2838/11583772435_89cf213754_k.jpg

restfortheweary
12-29-13, 14:41
Through no fault of Noveske's, I cross-threaded one of the bolts on my NSR. I have installed 6 NSR's and never had an issue, but I couldn't get perfect alignment of this one. Only one bolt would not thread. I forced it and the result was a less then ideal. I would hate to have to disassemble the entire upper and replace the barrel nut. Anyway to the question. . . would you guys feel comfortable running one bolt short, with all of the other bolts thread locked? I'm feeling like it shouldn't be an issue.

tw4
12-29-13, 16:20
Through no fault of Noveske's, I cross-threaded one of the bolts on my NSR. I have installed 6 NSR's and never had an issue, but I couldn't get perfect alignment of this one. Only one bolt would not thread. I forced it and the result was a less then ideal. I would hate to have to disassemble the entire upper and replace the barrel nut. Anyway to the question. . . would you guys feel comfortable running one bolt short, with all of the other bolts thread locked? I'm feeling like it shouldn't be an issue.

Cut it in half and epoxy the nut in place for looks
I would feel ok- as long as the others were in place

Onyx Z
12-29-13, 21:05
I absolutely love both of my NSR's, but my only gripe would be the screwheads that hold the NSR to the barrel nut. The torx head is definitely a one or two time use thing. Anymore than that and they begin to wear out and impossible to tighten w/ the supplied wrench. A torx insert w/ a socket works a lot better, if only I would have known this when I got my first NSR.

I like to swap things around between my guns when I get bored with a certain setup, so this is no bueno for me... but I will live with it since I like the NSR so much.

Snake
01-02-14, 10:25
I have a question for those of you who have a NSR on a Noveske Switchblock upper. I have a 18" SPR barrel with switchblock coming in and I am trying to figure out if I need to get a 10" NSR or 11" as I do not want any part of the gas tube exposed and want the handguard to be at least right behind the switchblock.

Thanks

Brahmzy
01-02-14, 12:22
I absolutely love both of my NSR's, but my only gripe would be the screwheads that hold the NSR to the barrel nut. The torx head is definitely a one or two time use thing. Anymore than that and they begin to wear out and impossible to tighten w/ the supplied wrench. A torx insert w/ a socket works a lot better, if only I would have known this when I got my first NSR.

I like to swap things around between my guns when I get bored with a certain setup, so this is no bueno for me... but I will live with it since I like the NSR so much.
I don't have any issues with the fasteners. I've dealt with probably 40-50 NSR installs/swaps/tear downs.
How tight are you tightening? Use a dab of blue loc-tite on them and torque with the adequate amount of force and you're fine.

Onyx Z
01-02-14, 16:51
I don't have any issues with the fasteners. I've dealt with probably 40-50 NSR installs/swaps/tear downs.
How tight are you tightening? Use a dab of blue loc-tite on them and torque with the adequate amount of force and you're fine.

I didn't use Loctite since I generally don't like to use it on any kind of gun, so I tighten them fairly tight.

ScatmanCrothers
01-04-14, 15:58
I absolutely love both of my NSR's, but my only gripe would be the screwheads that hold the NSR to the barrel nut. The torx head is definitely a one or two time use thing. Anymore than that and they begin to wear out and impossible to tighten w/ the supplied wrench. A torx insert w/ a socket works a lot better, if only I would have known this when I got my first NSR.

I like to swap things around between my guns when I get bored with a certain setup, so this is no bueno for me... but I will live with it since I like the NSR so much.

Those supplied L-wrenches with torx heads are tough to keep straight and will wear out a fitting that small pretty quickly if tightening down pressure is applied at an angle. I've used a handled torx driver since day one and the bolts still look brand new.

Onyx Z
01-05-14, 20:16
Those supplied L-wrenches with torx heads are tough to keep straight and will wear out a fitting that small pretty quickly if tightening down pressure is applied at an angle. I've used a handled torx driver since day one and the bolts still look brand new.

Yeah, it's tough to keep the wrench straight over the screw. I've been using a torx drill insert w/ a socket & ratchet lately, but a few of the screws are too far gone. My other NSR is fine since the supplied wrench hasn't even touched the screws.

sorthcj
01-16-14, 12:21
Stock DDM4V5 with NSR 15. This is an amzing rail, unbelievably light and suprisingly very rigid. My only complaint would be the 6 torx. I hope on the next generation NSR that Noveske engineers a different attachment method.

kaotik78
02-01-14, 19:54
Glad I came across this thread. I have been toying with the idea of swapping out the 11" nsr rail on my Noveske thunder ranch rifle with a 13.5 nsr rail. People seem to have issues with re-using the torx screws, alignment issues with the barrel nut, it has me thinking twice about even touching the factory assembled rifle I have.

wilson1911
02-01-14, 21:17
I do not see why people are having problems with the screws. I still use the supplied wrench and I have taken my off of the gun several times and reinstalled the nut a couple of times. If you always remember to take your time, put a little blue locktite on, and then wipe the threads off before you screw it on everything works great.

I still love my nsr rails just as much as the first day I installed it. I just bought the Kac keymod and I am still up in the air about the feel of it. The nsr just points so well and is very comfortable for the hands.

Since I do locktite everything down, I use a heat gun when removing the screws to gently I loosen them. Works like a champ. Let me know if you are getting the 13.5. I have 4 extra rails, some nib still.

kaotik78
02-02-14, 07:34
I do not see why people are having problems with the screws. I still use the supplied wrench and I have taken my off of the gun several times and reinstalled the nut a couple of times. If you always remember to take your time, put a little blue locktite on, and then wipe the threads off before you screw it on everything works great.

I still love my nsr rails just as much as the first day I installed it. I just bought the Kac keymod and I am still up in the air about the feel of it. The nsr just points so well and is very comfortable for the hands.

Since I do locktite everything down, I use a heat gun when removing the screws to gently I loosen them. Works like a champ. Let me know if you are getting the 13.5. I have 4 extra rails, some nib still.

Silly question but does Noveske provide torque specs for the screws? Still in in the air about getting the 13.5 almost like I created another problem that wasn't there to begin with. Probably just bored and my local shop had one for sale and the mrs doesn't help matters with egging me on saying "get it if you want it". Something about this rifle, almost screams do not modify.

Lopro619
02-02-14, 07:37
Silly question but does Noveske provide torque specs for the screws? Still in in the air about getting the 13.5 almost like I created another problem that wasn't there to begin with. Probably just bored and my local shop had one for sale and the mrs doesn't help matters with egging me on saying "get it if you want it". Something about this rifle, almost screams do not modify.

Yes they provide torque specs. Off the top of my head its 40-60 lbs

2nd.amendment
02-02-14, 07:47
Silly question but does Noveske provide torque specs for the screws? Still in in the air about getting the 13.5 almost like I created another problem that wasn't there to begin with. Probably just bored and my local shop had one for sale and the mrs doesn't help matters with egging me on saying "get it if you want it". Something about this rifle, almost screams do not modify.

I have installed lots of NSRs of various lengths. I would go for the 13.5 IMHO. It's really up to you and your shooting style, but I have found that the extra length is well worth it.

Relative to the screws aligning, I wouldn't worry about it. They should be fine. If they aren't perfectly aligned, worst case scenario, it would only take a very small amount of work to open up the hole(s) slightly to allow the screws to line up with the barrel nut. I had to do this for a 15" NSR that didn't quite line up with the holes in the barrel nut. It only took a few seconds with a round file to fix the issue and the screw heads still completely covered the holes. I would prefer not to have to do that, but I wasn't worried about it either.

kaotik78
02-02-14, 11:31
Yes they provide torque specs. Off the top of my head its 40-60 lbs

Thanks, I just picked it up this morning, 30 in lbs for the torx screws. I guess I'm lucky I have a wrench that'll do that small of a reading. After getting it home and lining it all up it was, for me, a worth while purchase, as I tend to have long arms. The mrs is already asking me for the 11" nsr for her rig.

Airhasz
02-02-14, 12:28
Am I correct in purchasing a 15" NSR to fit correctly on my 16" barreled Colt? I want to double check to make sure it is not to long before ordering one. Also do most who want a long NSR go with the 13.5" or the 15" NSR on 16" barrels?Just making sure before I add it to the cart, thanks.

kaotik78
02-02-14, 13:01
Am I correct in purchasing a 15" NSR to fit correctly on my 16" barreled Colt? I want to double check to make sure it is not to long before ordering one. Also do most who want a long NSR go with the 13.5" or the 15" NSR on 16" barrels?Just making sure before I add it to the cart, thanks.

Entirely up to you. Take a tape measure and see how far out you want your forward grip to be and go from there. Just going from 11 to 13.5 has helped my forward grip/ergo's for my lanky arms. For me, I'm glad I changed my rail out for a tad longer one.

wilson1911
02-02-14, 13:03
Here are some pics of some guns I setup for a class last year. Both are 16" guns. The Novekse is wearing a 13.5 NSR and the KAC is wearing the 15" NSR. As for the right length, all I can say is the longer the better, and I am only a 5'10" guy, with not too big hands. The smallest I would go is 13.5, unless your going to sbr it. It will simply give you a bigger work area. Think of it this way, if you buy a small desk and run out of room, your going to go buy a bigger one. The longer rail allows you to do a bit more. Personally, I like the 15". My bipod sits all the way out which makes aiming a bit smoother transitioning targets. With the k-9 installed it reaches thru barricades and allows you to rest the support hand in a variety of positions. With me also being a southpaw, it allows me to rotate and change my grip slightly if brass ejection is a problem. Lastly, I feel the longer rail allows me to get "into" the gun deeper so as to maintain target acquisition while the T1 is a dancing. With the entire barrel covered there is no chance of it getting you, or having to contact the gun on the barrel for urban position.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/2cd6d6b6-c22e-4e97-8848-68245a9152ad.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/2cd6d6b6-c22e-4e97-8848-68245a9152ad.jpg.html)

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc171/jeep4tw/194.jpg (http://s219.photobucket.com/user/jeep4tw/media/194.jpg.html)

Koshinn
02-02-14, 13:06
Am I correct in purchasing a 15" NSR to fit correctly on my 16" barreled Colt? I want to double check to make sure it is not to long before ordering one. Also do most who want a long NSR go with the 13.5" or the 15" NSR on 16" barrels?Just making sure before I add it to the cart, thanks.

15" came out later than 13.5", so fewer have the 15" NSR. It's also not found as a pre-configured option very often, so there's that too on why it's rarer.

15" gives you about 1/2" of exposed barrel on a 16".

Unless you're crazy about saving oz, there is no reason to not get the 15" for a 16".

OK there are some reasons, like an OPS Inc 12th suppressor. But you get the picture:

16" Noveske Recon, 15" NSR, Surefire x300 on a HSP offset keymod mount that wouldn't be possible (with that mount) on a 13.5" NSR. I also couldn't stick the bipod that far forward, nor get quite as long a sight radius.
http://i.imgur.com/9ad9HZ8.jpg

Airhasz
02-02-14, 18:29
Great info and especially the pictures made my decision. I just ordered the 15" NSR, thanks a lot for your help!

Koshinn
02-03-14, 01:59
Great info and especially the pictures made my decision. I just ordered the 15" NSR, thanks a lot for your help!

Glad to be of service!

wilson1911
02-03-14, 04:36
Be sure to read the thread twice on how to install. It would be best to get a reaction rod IMHO. All of the nuts I have put on are in the neighborhood of 70 lbs. this takes a very good receiver vice or you can just get the rod. I have one for my Kac and generic rifles. These are a must have for changing out the barrels. Your receiver will flex some without it. One tool to rule them all !!

I use oil on the threads until I get it close, then back off, clean threads, and reapply new oil. This is more of a check to make sure everything is good before the final torque.

It's a 1 1/16 nut. But remember it cannot be very thick on your wrench or it will not fit the nut. I have some noveske and mur receivers with them on. The pin is not really necessary. But if you got it use it. I just torn down my Kac to put a urx 4 on and nothing was loose or moved in a year of heavy use. This includes a carbine class. Use a bit of blue locktite on the screw threads, then wipe the threads off so there is very little left. This is sufficient to hold the screws and not have them back out ever. A small amount of heat will make them easy to remove if you need to work on the gun.

The rail panels are just ok. I think the kac thumb rest(in my pics) is a must. I used the panels to make a bit of memory when I first stared using them. This helps to rotate your hand properly for a rock solid hold. Oh, post some pics and a final thought after you have shot a few hundred rounds with it.

madisonsfinest
02-03-14, 07:10
I'd love to see a 14.5" barrel with a kx5 and the NSR

Airhasz
02-03-14, 08:08
Be sure to read the thread twice on how to install. It would be best to get a reaction rod IMHO. All of the nuts I have put on are in the neighborhood of 70 lbs. this takes a very good receiver vice or you can just get the rod. I have one for my Kac and generic rifles. These are a must have for changing out the barrels. Your receiver will flex some without it. One tool to rule them all !!

I use oil on the threads until I get it close, then back off, clean threads, and reapply new oil. This is more of a check to make sure everything is good before the final torque.

It's a 1 1/16 nut. But remember it cannot be very thick on your wrench or it will not fit the nut. I have some noveske and mur receivers with them on. The pin is not really necessary. But if you got it use it. I just torn down my Kac to put a urx 4 on and nothing was loose or moved in a year of heavy use. This includes a carbine class. Use a bit of blue locktite on the screw threads, then wipe the threads off so there is very little left. This is sufficient to hold the screws and not have them back out ever. A small amount of heat will make them easy to remove if you need to work on the gun.

The rail panels are just ok. I think the kac thumb rest(in my pics) is a must. I used the panels to make a bit of memory when I first stared using them. This helps to rotate your hand properly for a rock solid hold. Oh, post some pics and a final thought after you have shot a few hundred rounds with it.

Thanks for all the excellent advice, I'll be looking to get a reaction rod next. Can you post a link to the install thread you speak of? Thanks again.

Slippers
02-03-14, 11:28
I happened to purchase both of my NSRs through rogtac and the first time they had a promotion giving away a free NSR crowfoot with each rail, which I took advantage of. Even if you have to buy it, it's certainly cheaper than a snap-on crowfoot, and works fine: http://shopnoveske.com/collections/parts/products/nsr-1-1-16-torque-wrench-adapter.

As for installation, I also used a geissele reaction rod, which makes it super easy. Both of my NSRs required me to flip the barrel nut around in order to get alignment, but after 3 initial 40 ft/lb torques, they both reached alignment around 70 ft/lb without a problem. I simply set my torque wrench to 40, tightened and loosened 3x (using a normal socket wrench to loosen), took the barrel nut off and reapplied grease, then set the wrench to 80 and applied constant pressure until the holes lined up. Instructions are included with the NSR, too.

wilson1911
02-03-14, 17:49
If you read thru this thread, you will find enough information for the install. I am not sure if there is a youtube vid on it. To be very plain and simple on how to install, its easy.

Take your old rail off

Clean threads

Oil threads

Tighten the barrel nut down to hand tight

Reread the install directions here. This is where you will start to look if its going to have to be flipped or not. Gently tighten it a bit, then look again. The nut seems to be going past or coming up short, which is what we want. If its almost lined up with just 30 lbs of pressure, flip it. 15 Deg is what we are looking for.

I have used a torque wrench, crescent wrench, and hand wrench. They all work well if they are slim enough to fit in the groove of the barrel nut. torquing down in 5 degree turns/then back off and repeat. Once you get to about 50 lbs you will see the receiver starting to flex. Hence buy the reaction rod. At 70-75 lbs there is a lot of flex, but be easy and consistent if your using a receiver clamp. The reaction rod takes this out of the equation.

When you get to about 50 lbs, it should start coming into alignment, just a bit. If not you need to flip it. This is where I back it off to re clean the threads and check everything. re torquing as you just did. Now we have an almost aligned nut that is getting very hard to tighten.

This being everyone's gripe about the install, the amount of pressure it takes to align the nut. I have yet to do one that is less than 70 lbs.

Finish the alignment process in very small steps using two screws to put the rail on hand tight. We are looking for the top rail section to line up without going past it. if you need a bit more, make it a small step in pressure, then put the rail back on to check alignment. The gas tube will fit thru in hole even if the top rail is off 2 or 3 degree's. but I like a nice fit all lined up.

Ok, so we just got the nut lined up with the gas tube hole and put on the rail with two screws to check for tilt between the receiver and rail, if it all looks good, take the rail off and mark your barrel nut on the down side some way that you will be able to tell if you have to take it off.

Install the screws with a small dot of blue locktite, wiping most of the blue off with a clean rag. We are not trying to coat all the threads 360 deg around. If done right, you put a dot on the starting threads, then wiped it off, leaving a small amount between the threads. Then tighten her up.

Now have a beer. And don't laugh at how easy it is.

Lessons learned:

1. I'm glad I bought the reaction rod.
2. Wow it flexed lots, wish I had bought the reaction rod.
3. Lining it up is not really that hard to see. (To flip or Not to flip)
4. That last little bit is really tight.
5. I can't keep my hands off it now.

I have put these on Noveske, MUR, BCM, and Kac recievers. Every last one of them has been right at ~70 lbs.

Post some pics of your beauty, it's required, not an option.

If you need more help than that, pm me for my Ph number.

Airhasz
02-03-14, 19:24
Wow Wilson1911, thank you for the detailed instructions! I copied and pasted your post along with lots of other tips and information while enjoying this long thread. It will be a while before I have the reaction rod and do the install as I'm collecting parts as I can right now.

Nick S
02-05-14, 18:15
Noveske 16 LW barrel
Noveske NSR 15
Larue Stealth Upper Receiver
Noveske Lower
JP Trigger
SB Short Dot

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v605/rakkasan187/ecc3b56c-146d-435c-be58-80761193ee0b_zpseca4c27f.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/rakkasan187/media/ecc3b56c-146d-435c-be58-80761193ee0b_zpseca4c27f.jpg.html)

wilson1911
02-05-14, 18:28
Good looking stick. How do you like the JP trigger ? I am a SD-E/SD3G guy myself.

I think the 15 looks the best out of all the rails, I almost did not put a urx4 on my Kac because its a tad shorter.
The NSR still feels great when pointing tho. Do you use that for 3 gun ?

Nick S
02-05-14, 18:35
Thanks.

I like JP triggers. Ive been using them for years. I would highly recommend sending your lower to JP and have it installed. Whatever they do the results seem to be far nicer than ones I have done. I have a lower I'm going to build soon and will most likely try a Geissele. Not sure which one just yet. Maybe one of the two you mentioned or the NM DMR.

This is my 3G rifle. I just put the NSR one recently. I really like it. Before that I was using a PRI CF tube.



Good looking stick. How do you like the JP trigger ? I am a SD-E/SD3G guy myself.

I think the 15 looks the best out of all the rails, I almost did not put a urx4 on my Kac because its a tad shorter.
The NSR still feels great when pointing tho. Do you use that for 3 gun ?

Airhasz
02-06-14, 16:16
What LPGB are people using under the NSR? It's going on a Colt socom barrel and I see BCM offers two different sizes, anyone Know what size I need? Basically I need some help in the gas block area with this colt, thanks!

Ryno12
02-06-14, 16:48
What LPGB are people using under the NSR? It's going on a Colt socom barrel and I see BCM offers two different sizes, anyone Know what size I need? Basically I need some help in the gas block area with this colt, thanks!

By size do you mean diameter? That'd be a .750 GB or do you mean height? The BCMs do fit under the NSR if that's what you're asking.

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Onyx Z
02-06-14, 17:12
What LPGB are people using under the NSR? It's going on a Colt socom barrel and I see BCM offers two different sizes, anyone Know what size I need? Basically I need some help in the gas block area with this colt, thanks!

Both of my NSR equipped rifles have Troy LPGB's and I've never had a problem.

Dmaynor
02-06-14, 17:31
What LPGB are people using under the NSR? It's going on a Colt socom barrel and I see BCM offers two different sizes, anyone Know what size I need? Basically I need some help in the gas block area with this colt, thanks!

Quick question: what does LPGB mean?

Wake27
02-06-14, 17:35
Quick question: what does LPGB mean?

Low profile gas block.


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Airhasz
02-06-14, 17:48
After I posted realized to just measure the barrel for gb size...lol. Thanks for info on the gas block, I have to pick one up.

madisonsfinest
02-06-14, 19:54
I have the BCM LPGB in .750 on my Colt 6920, with 13.5" NSR. Fits fine.

bullittmcqueen
02-06-14, 20:58
I have an install video on my YouTube channel. The detailed instructions on torquing the barrel nut above are very good.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKzYxN-QlVg

Airhasz
02-07-14, 02:30
Will I need to dimple the barrel for the set screws on BCM's LPGB? Do I want to use the red or blue lock tight on the set screws? I hope I am not derailing this thread as I am working on installing my 15" NSR and will add a pic when finished. Also what folding front sight are you guys liking on this slim lightweight NSR hand guard?

Ryno12
02-07-14, 05:47
Will I need to dimple the barrel for the set screws on BCM's LPGB? Do I want to use the red or blue lock tight on the set screws? I hope I am not derailing this thread as I am working on installing my 15" NSR and will add a pic when finished. Also what folding front sight are you guys liking on this slim lightweight NSR hand guard?

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wilson1911
02-07-14, 08:35
Air, I will assume the pm he sent will cover what questions you asked. But you really need to read the stickies and surf around more. Most will answer your questions, so when you ask in a thread, it will be an educated question. If you decide to start your own thread, I am willing to help you out.

Spookydude
02-19-14, 04:48
Finally got my Noveske 12.5" GPR upper put back together. Had the barrel cut down to 11.98" to draw the AAC SPR/M4 in nice and close to the NSR for that seamless look.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9YfGBWG8Xd8/UwSJw3XjDFI/AAAAAAAACYo/I3SBD0Xsd_Q/s1152/CRW_3262.jpg

bullittmcqueen
02-19-14, 08:13
Finally got my Noveske 12.5" GPR upper put back together. Had the barrel cut down to 11.98" to draw the AAC SPR/M4 in nice and close to the NSR for that seamless look.
23721

That's a really nice build dude. Details....

Spookydude
02-19-14, 09:29
That's a really nice build dude. Details....

If you're asking for details, here it is:

Upper:
Noveske marked Vltor MUR upper
Noveske 12.5" CHF barrel cut down to 11.98" (by ADCO)
Noveske NSR-9
AAC SPR/M4 Muzzle Brake
Magpul MBUS Pro
Aimpoint Micro T-1 2moa on LT660

Lower:
Noveske Gen 2 FFL
RRA small parts
Wilson Combat TTU
Vltor 5-position receiver extension
Wolf XP Carbine spring
H2 buffer
Magpul ASAP
Umbrella Corp. Grip 23

Missing:
Magpul CTR buttstock (SBR's aren't legal in MI yet, but legislation is pending.....fingers crossed)

Wider Shot:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S4738FPx1h4/UwTM82NfGYI/AAAAAAAACY4/6sZxshSy-b4/s1152/CRW_3266.jpg

Airhasz
02-19-14, 12:01
Air, I will assume the pm he sent will cover what questions you asked. But you really need to read the stickies and surf around more. Most will answer your questions, so when you ask in a thread, it will be an educated question. If you decide to start your own thread, I am willing to help you out.

None of my questions were uneducated. You might want to start a WTS Thread instead of trolling members who have purchased an NRS Handguard to hawk your wares.

Onyx Z
02-19-14, 12:10
If you're asking for details, here it is:

Upper:
Noveske marked Vltor MUR upper
Noveske 12.5" CHF barrel cut down to 11.98" (by ADCO)
Noveske NSR-9
AAC SPR/M4 Muzzle Brake
Magpul MBUS Pro
Aimpoint Micro T-1 2moa on LT660

Lower:
Noveske Gen 2 FFL
RRA small parts
Wilson Combat TTU
Vltor 5-position receiver extension
Wolf XP Carbine spring
H2 buffer
Magpul ASAP
Umbrella Corp. Grip 23

Missing:
Magpul CTR buttstock (SBR's aren't legal in MI yet, but legislation is pending.....fingers crossed)

Wider Shot:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-S4738FPx1h4/UwTM82NfGYI/AAAAAAAACY4/6sZxshSy-b4/s1152/CRW_3266.jpg

Have you ever got any crap for having a buffer tube that will accept a stock? SBR's are legal here in TX, but I don't want to pay the gov't for something that I have the right to... so I want to build an SBR w/ an A5 system, but I'm worried that LE might see that as "intent to assemble" or whatever they call it.

Spookydude
02-20-14, 15:32
Have you ever got any crap for having a buffer tube that will accept a stock? SBR's are legal here in TX, but I don't want to pay the gov't for something that I have the right to... so I want to build an SBR w/ an A5 system, but I'm worried that LE might see that as "intent to assemble" or whatever they call it.

Well I just finished building it, so I don't know first hand if anyone will give me crap, but according to BATFE letters, any type of receiver extension (buffer tube) is fine so long as you don't actually put on a buttstock.

Soopreme
03-08-14, 23:23
Noveske MUR with Afghan p/w SFMB556 13.5" nsr
http://i58.tinypic.com/2psm2qo.jpg

Here's the host for the new upper.
http://i61.tinypic.com/692r6f.jpg

paddle007
03-08-14, 23:40
I installed a short picatinney rail for a sling mount. I drilled and threaded two holes into the thick lower section of the tube. Figured that would eliminate any BS about constructive intent.

bakercountyboy
03-09-14, 09:18
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3240/12980007395_c31f08d5b9.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/119605223@N04/12980007395/)
DSCN0651 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/119605223@N04/12980007395/) by DeputyNoveskeN4 (http://www.flickr.com/people/119605223@N04/), on Flickr

BOSAR15
03-09-14, 22:54
Looking good

556BlackRifle
03-20-14, 11:27
Here's mine. The installation went very well thanks to the tutorial on youtube by forum member BullittMcQueen (http://youtu.be/XKzYxN-QlVg).

I've only been able to get it to the range once since the installation but it shot very well. It also got a lot of attention from fellow shooters.

Let me know if you have any questions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/Mike16610/ARL_1_zpsd47b5a8b.jpg

556BlackRifle

bullittmcqueen
03-20-14, 11:35
Here's mine. The installation went very well thanks to the tutorial on youtube by forum member BullittMcQueen (http://youtu.be/XKzYxN-QlVg).

I've only been able to get it to the range once since the installation but it shot very well. It also got a lot of attention from fellow shooters.

Let me know if you have any questions.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/Mike16610/ARL_1_zpsd47b5a8b.jpg

556BlackRifle

Great looking rifle! I'm glad I could be of assistance. I love the NSR as well.

BOSAR15
03-23-14, 14:07
nice looking rifle

Wake27
09-03-14, 04:51
So I can't seem to find this anywhere - but how hard would this thing be to uninstall?


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Ryno12
09-03-14, 05:10
So I can't seem to find this anywhere - but how hard would this thing be to uninstall?


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It's not hard. Remove the 6 screws & slide the NSR off the barrel nut. May have to twist it a bit. Barrel nut spins off as any normal barrel nut does.


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Wake27
09-03-14, 05:15
So ADCO would be able to swap one for a KMR pretty easily then? I'd assume so, but the whole reason I sold my Noveske was because that VIS upper was forged to the hand guard or some shit.


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Ryno12
09-03-14, 06:02
So ADCO would be able to swap one for a KMR pretty easily then? I'd assume so, but the whole reason I sold my Noveske was because that VIS upper was forged to the hand guard or some shit.


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Sure. Of course the GB & muzzle device also have to be removed. If you got the tools, I'd just do it yourself. I've installed both and both are very easy to install.


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JAustin316
09-23-14, 21:46
Finally got my Noveske 12.5" GPR upper put back together. Had the barrel cut down to 11.98" to draw the AAC SPR/M4 in nice and close to the NSR for that seamless look.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9YfGBWG8Xd8/UwSJw3XjDFI/AAAAAAAACYo/I3SBD0Xsd_Q/s1152/CRW_3262.jpg

Really nice setup you have there... if only I could get cans in CA.

WS6
10-08-14, 02:48
So, once you install the rail, you can just remove it with the screws I can see? Meaning, you should be able to swap rails fast and easy in just a minute or two and have them line up perfectly, as long as you account that you will likely have to re-zero sights just a touch?

Also, is this 6601, or 7075, or...?

n4p226r
10-08-14, 09:46
So, once you install the rail, you can just remove it with the screws I can see? Meaning, you should be able to swap rails fast and easy in just a minute or two and have them line up perfectly, as long as you account that you will likely have to re-zero sights just a touch?

Also, is this 6601, or 7075, or...?
once the barrel nut is torqued properly, there is only the 6 hex screws you see. two at 3 o clock, 2 at 6. and 2 at 9. there is also a pin that goes between the two but that isn't held in by anything

Onyx Z
10-08-14, 11:20
So, once you install the rail, you can just remove it with the screws I can see? Meaning, you should be able to swap rails fast and easy in just a minute or two and have them line up perfectly, as long as you account that you will likely have to re-zero sights just a touch?

Yes, exactly.

Voodoo_Man
10-08-14, 11:28
btw, I have this NSR barrel wrench thing - http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/nsr-1-1-16-torque-wrench-adapter

I have no use for it. Someone need it? Pay for shipping and pass it on?


edit; that was quick Onxy Z is getting it first, I'd like this to be passed on to anyone else as long as they pay for shipping and agree to pass it on to someone who needs it.

bates
10-08-14, 16:01
btw, I have this NSR barrel wrench thing - http://www.shopnoveske.com/products/nsr-1-1-16-torque-wrench-adapter

I have no use for it. Someone need it? Pay for shipping and pass it on?


edit; that was quick Onxy Z is getting it first, I'd like this to be passed on to anyone else as long as they pay for shipping and agree to pass it on to someone who needs it.


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Sir I need to install one on a build but will pass long as well

Iraqgunz
10-09-14, 00:13
This thread was originally about the release of the NSR. If you think you need to start a new NSR thread or find an existing one to discuss this, please do so. If not use the PM feature.