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William B.
01-23-12, 10:58
Apparently, Rand Paul was asked to submit to a TSA full-body pat-down today after the full-body scanner showed something of interest. When he refused he was detained (or escorted depending on who is telling the story) and denied entry to the gate.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/rand-paul-in-pat-down-standoff-with-tsa-in-nashville/
ForTehNguyen
01-23-12, 11:10
TSA scanners revealed he had a spine, which is contraband in the police state
You know I can't stand either of the Pauls. but in this case I hope he causes some waves.
Doc Safari
01-23-12, 11:13
TSA scanners revealed he had a spine, which is contraband in the police state
The most accurate and death-dealing comment posted on a forum in many moons.
:cool:
ForTehNguyen
01-23-12, 11:18
Sen. Rand Paul Questions Invasive TSA Searches - 06/22/11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-elwtnWyYU
TSA scanners revealed he had a spine, which is contraband in the police state
Nice one! Finally a man of action and not just words!!!
Of course the White House sided with the TSA - http://thehill.com/blogs/transportation-report/tsa/205813-white-house-sides-with-tsa-in-rand-paul-standoff
But Carney sided with the TSA saying, "I think it is absolutely essential that we take necessary actions to ensure that air travel is safe."
Yeah because I have heard of the high number of hijackings perpetrated by sitting US Senators. Something has to be done to stop these people.
:rolleyes:
This is *almost* as stupid as when they harrassed Joe Foss over his Medal of Honor.
You mean to tell me a SENATOR get flagged, but just LAST WEEK some lady (who still hasnt been identified) made it through with a pistol in her bag.
Ya, looks like it works great. Just another great example that shows when the government gets involved, it doesnt work.
FromMyColdDeadHand
01-23-12, 18:46
They were running everyone thru the scanners like usual on Friday until they just waved one guy thru the metal detector, not the microwaver. I did my usual opt out and asked why he didn't have to get microwaved or fondled.
The stasi said, quite contempuosly, "He pushes people in wheelchairs, if you want to come here and volunteer to do that, you can skip the mircrowaver."
I wanted to scream out, well "Well I guess all AQ needs to do is get a job as a wheelchair pushes to get liquid bomb components thru security." But I wanted to make my flight.
They scan pilots, but not some volunteer.
Bad security, bad security.
They were running everyone thru the scanners like usual on Friday ...
Now that makes no sense because any good Muslim is at Friday Prayers.
SeriousStudent
01-23-12, 19:26
Now, this will be very, very fun to watch. Guess what committee asignments Senator Paul has?
http://paul.senate.gov/?p=committee_assignments
Yep, the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Govermental Affairs. And I wonder who's budget they have cognizance over? Possibly the TSA? ;)
Get out the popcorn, folks. This will be really fun to see.
http://youtu.be/RXBg11JiB14
his interview with Wolf on CNN, if anyone is interested.
TSA scanners revealed he had a spine, which is contraband in the police state
Brilliant.
They scan pilots, but not some volunteer.
They do not scan pilots. We are exempt from the scanners as well as any pat downs. We do have to go through the metal detectors and obviously have our bag's sent through the x-ray machine. We almost have a system that will exempt us from everything, but they are still testing it(for like 4 years now), but they think its in its final configuration and will roll out nation wide soon(been hearing that for 7 years).
Nobody has to go through the scanner, but people are sheep and just do it. You can go through the metal detector, but you have to get the invasive pat down if you decide to go that way. And now its obvious that even if you go through the scanner you may need to get the invasive pat down.
I have the answer to everything though. We need to profile.
pilotguyo540
01-23-12, 23:03
I get the pat down 3 times a week or more. I am seeing more attitude from screeners. Some will "punish" me by making me wait for them for 10 minutes. Some seem to take it personal that I refuse the scanner. The attitude from some of these lackeys borders on unacceptable. They tell me that there is more radiation from my cell phone. I am no doctor of nuclear medicine, but neither are they. Neither is Janet Napolitano. Let's keep in mind that she is a political appointee who knows little about medicine or security.
I hope Ron Paul can toss these guys out.
arizonaranchman
01-24-12, 01:16
This crap is intolerable to me. It's come to the point that under no circumstances will you ever see me fly if this is what you have to subject yourself to in order to fly.
If I cant get there on my Harley or in my truck then I simply don't have to be there at all. Screw this big brother BS. The airlines can go out of business for all I care, you'll never see me in line to be molested by these morons.
FromMyColdDeadHand
01-24-12, 07:53
They do not scan pilots. We are exempt from the scanners as well as any pat downs. We do have to go through the metal detectors and obviously have our bag's sent through the x-ray machine. .
Thanks for the clarification, I knew when the new scanners came on line that the pilots were getting scanned, glad they finally got some smarts and figured out that was a low yield way to stop terrorists.
I opt out and have 99% rate of friendly/courteous fondling. I just don't want to take a risk on the machines, I fly too much. I don't make it a politcal statement when I opt out, what do the line guys have to do with it?
They arrested from our area another Jihad wanna-bee on his way to the 'wedding' in Pakistan. Homeland doesn't seem to see a link, but it is the second muslim guy from Aurora, from the same mosque, to be charged with conspiracy to be a dumb-ass.
They stopped scanning us pretty quick after one of my companies pilots refused the scan and the pat down, was detained(possibly arrested, I cant remember), didnt make it to work(actually ended up getting fired, but he got his job back). He went on a big PR mission and was on the today show and cnn and what not. His cause was great, but he was a terrible spokes person for the cause for us airline pilots since he was very poorly spoken and rambled and mumbled.
I am one of the biggest opponents to the TSA's buffoonery since I see it every day I go to work. IMO one of the most bloated .gov agencies in existance with 2-3 times as many people working as are needed. Their answer is that they need so many people so they dont miss things. Heres an idea, how bout you ****ing TRAIN the people who do the work instead of relying on the buddy principal to catch the errors of the buffoons you do hire. They use scare tactics and over blown statistics to justify their existence in all the random bull shit jobs they do. Their tactic is "if you are against us than you MUST be against air travel security" and that line works with probably 98% of the general public. The average education level is somewhere between 10th grade and 2 years of college. These ****ing jokesters want access to MY cockpit jump seat(never gonna happen ever ever ever ever ever). These ****ing jokesters want to be able to carry firearms. A bill recently went through congress to take their badges away because "officers"(and I use that term loosely) were acting like cops and flashing their badges at people in situations that needed REAL cops.
William B.
01-24-12, 09:15
These ****ing jokesters want to be able to carry firearms. A bill recently went through congress to take their badges away because "officers"(and I use that term loosely) were acting like cops and flashing their badges at people in situations that needed REAL cops.
You mean like this?
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/TSA-Officer-Charged-in-Manassas-Sex-Assault-134257998.html
Happened up the road from me.
pilotguyo540
01-24-12, 09:21
You mean like this?
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/TSA-Officer-Charged-in-Manassas-Sex-Assault-134257998.html
Happened up the road from me.
I sure do like the canned, covering ass paragraph at the end.
"TSA holds its personnel to the highest professional and ethical standards, and investigates all allegations of misconduct,"*read a statement from the TSA. "TSA is working closely with local law enforcement on this matter. The disturbing allegations against this individual in no way reflect the work of the more than 50,000 security officers who every day ensure the security of the traveling public."
No you don't, and yes it does.
RancidSumo
01-24-12, 10:55
They arrested from our area another Jihad wanna-bee on his way to the 'wedding' in Pakistan. Homeland doesn't seem to see a link, but it is the second muslim guy from Aurora, from the same mosque, to be charged with conspiracy to be a dumb-ass.
Got a link to a story on this? I hadn't heard about it.
CarlosDJackal
01-24-12, 14:34
...A bill recently went through congress to take their badges away because "officers"(and I use that term loosely) were acting like cops and flashing their badges at people in situations that needed REAL cops.
I can never understand why they bothered to issue TSA agents badges. It's not like they have any arrest powers to begin with. I used to work as the Checkpoint LEO and if they had an incident it was my job to do any kind of arresting and in some cases, addressing the issue.
They may be a necessity at airports. Unfortunately, they are hindered either by the bureaucracy that they built into that organization or the low standards that ensure that a large percentage of them are idiots with no common sense.
As for Rand Paul, if you do not want to subject yourself to any searches (like me); then don't fly. There is a reason I prefer to drive everywhere. JM2CW.
As for Rand Paul, if you do not want to subject yourself to any searches (like me); then don't fly. There is a reason I prefer to drive everywhere. JM2CW.
That's the spirit! If I never left the house then I wouldn't need to worry about concealing a firearm. Heck, if I just agree with everything the government says I wouldn't need the right to free speech either. By that measurement, as long as I stay out of trouble I wouldn't need my 6th amendment right to due process. Man, we can pretty much just nip this whole civil rights discussion right in the bud if we all just bended to whatever our overloards demanded of us regardless of reasoning or necessity.
:rolleyes:
^^ Zing.
That being said, everyone should follow the rules and if you don't like them, get them changed but until then, ya gotta follow the rules or deal with the consequences. Rand Paul is no exception and should get no free pass. Personally, I'd like to see the checkpoints be made effective with a reduced level of stupidity instead of scrapped.
^^ Zing.
That being said, everyone should follow the rules and if you don't like them, get them changed but until then, ya gotta follow the rules or deal with the consequences. Rand Paul is no exception and should get no free pass. Personally, I'd like to see the checkpoints be made effective with a reduced level of stupidity instead of scrapped.
If Rand Paul wouldn't have done what he did and "followed the rules", would we be talking about this right now? Would it be in the national news today?
Okay, so who wants to do it next with a gun in their pants, then make the claim that we should all have handguns on planes? As it's something I agree with, I wouldn't recommend you do it. Get the rules changed, then act. Like here in Virginia, we can carry concealed in restaurants and other places that serve alcohol. Before we could only open carry in those places and no concealed carry was allowed. We got the rules changed and now I carry concealed when out to dinner all the time.
I wasn't okay with the consequences whatever they may have been for carrying concealed when not allowed to, just like I still don't where I'm still not allowed to. He must have felt comfortable with the consequences, but what I think is more likely, he wanted to get his Dad's name in the press. Just because the Paul's (plural) talk a good talk about the constitution and individual's rights, they're still politicians and shouldn't be trusted or made out to be heroes. There's only a few people in the world who I trust and a politician or his son ain't at the top of that list.
The issue however is real and I'm glad it's being discussed as more than a joking passerby topic about how much it sucks. TSA checkpoints are a failed attempt at security and are more of a hassle and waste of resources & money than anything else in their current form.
If Rand Paul wouldn't have done what he did and "followed the rules", would we be talking about this right now? Would it be in the national news today?
If our forefathers followed the rules we wouldn't be the United States of America, period. This isn't a slam on anybody in this thread but all the people I speak to who are whining that people should just submit, obey and follow the rules of their masters sound like a bunch of pussies to me.
And if I didn't explain my position that well read my sig line.
They may be a necessity at airports.
They are not a necessity.
Unfortunately, they are hindered either by the bureaucracy that they built into that organization or the low standards that ensure that a large percentage of them are idiots with no common sense.
You aren't very familiar with the American government are you?
.... all the people I speak to who are whining that people should just submit, obey and follow the rules of their masters sound like a bunch of pussies to me.
Because you average American male is, in fact, a physical and moral coward.
Moose-Knuckle
01-24-12, 19:04
TSA scanners revealed he had a spine, which is contraband in the police state
http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee362/thebruneitor/memes/applause.gif
kaiservontexas
01-24-12, 19:54
If our forefathers followed the rules we wouldn't be the United States of America, period. This isn't a slam on anybody in this thread but all the people I speak to who are whining that people should just submit, obey and follow the rules of their masters sound like a bunch of pussies to me.
It is annoying isn't it? This attitude gets worse and worse everyday.
Belmont31R
01-24-12, 19:57
I haven't been on a plane since about late 2008. No plans to either.
No need to subject myself to a sexual assault or even worse my wife and/or kids.
http://img.tapatalk.com/a6890f52-894f-f7fc.jpg
There is a reason I prefer to drive everywhere.
Im an airline pilot and I prefer to drive every where as well. There is a reason I have a 35' 5th wheel and its not so I can pay $100 a month for a storage spot.
Senator Rand Paul wrote an article detailing the events here: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/23/tsas-intrusions-undermine-security/
CarlosDJackal
01-25-12, 08:41
That's the spirit! If I never left the house then I wouldn't need to worry about concealing a firearm. Heck, if I just agree with everything the government says I wouldn't need the right to free speech either. By that measurement, as long as I stay out of trouble I wouldn't need my 6th amendment right to due process. Man, we can pretty much just nip this whole civil rights discussion right in the bud if we all just bended to whatever our overloards demanded of us regardless of reasoning or necessity.
:rolleyes:
Comparing commercial air travel to being out in public or free speech is just plain ignorant. Quit being such a drama queen!! :stop:
There has never been any guarantee that we must be allowed onto a commercial airplane (which private property). At least not in the Constitution I read. On the contrary, the owner of said private property can impose almost any restriction to those who VOLUNTARILY enter their property. Much like you and I can limit anyone who enters our own home only to non-felons who own a gun.
CarlosDJackal
01-25-12, 08:44
They are not a necessity...
We'll just have to agree to disagree on this point. :p
...You aren't very familiar with the American government are you?
A heck of a lot more than you know which was the point I was trying to make. :rolleyes:
pilotguyo540
01-25-12, 08:54
Comparing commercial air travel to being out in public or free speech is just plain ignorant. Quit being such a drama queen!! :stop:
There has never been any guarantee that we must be allowed onto a commercial airplane (which private property). At least not in the Constitution I read. On the contrary, the owner of said private property can impose almost any restriction to those who VOLUNTARILY enter their property. Much like you and I can limit anyone who enters our own home only to non-felons who own a gun.
I understand where you are coming from. I must disagree however. My problem is not with the airlines limiting what can fly, but the government doing it. If the airlines had their own private security we wouldn't be having this discussion. The government has over stepped its bounds. They are not accountable to anyone. If a business does things we don't like, we have options. With the government, only oppression.
When should you have access, or permission to use your constitutional rights? When would you like them to be suspended?
FromMyColdDeadHand
01-25-12, 10:37
Got a link to a story on this? I hadn't heard about it.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_19799831
FBI agents listening to conversations and reading emails between a 35-year-old Aurora man and the facilitator of a terrorist-linked website heard and saw a disturbing word: wedding.
The agents know "wedding" is a code word used by terrorists who are planning attacks. In 2008, the FBI heard convicted Aurora terrorist Najibullah Zazi use the word before his foiled plot to bomb subways in New York City.
Muhtorov, also known as Abumumin Turkistony and as Abu Mumin, is a refugee from Uzbekistan.
Agents listened to a phone call where Muhtorov told his young daughter "that he would never see her again; but if she was a good Muslim girl, he will see her in heaven."
I've been to bachelor party's that I didn't think I'd make it home from, but not weddings.
Belmont31R
01-25-12, 11:00
Comparing commercial air travel to being out in public or free speech is just plain ignorant. Quit being such a drama queen!! :stop:
There has never been any guarantee that we must be allowed onto a commercial airplane (which private property). At least not in the Constitution I read. On the contrary, the owner of said private property can impose almost any restriction to those who VOLUNTARILY enter their property. Much like you and I can limit anyone who enters our own home only to non-felons who own a gun.
Freedom of movement has be recognized by SCOTUS as since the early 1800's.
TSA is not run by the airlines.
Comparing commercial air travel to being out in public or free speech is just plain ignorant. Quit being such a drama queen!! :stop:
There has never been any guarantee that we must be allowed onto a commercial airplane (which private property). At least not in the Constitution I read. On the contrary, the owner of said private property can impose almost any restriction to those who VOLUNTARILY enter their property. Much like you and I can limit anyone who enters our own home only to non-felons who own a gun.
So i can grope anyone that voluntarily enters my house, legally? You know, just grab up on someones crotch or breasts?? I mean of course its for my safety....safety first!
I guess you can convince some people to do anything if you tells them its for their own safety........god help us all......
Comparing commercial air travel to being out in public or free speech is just plain ignorant. Quit being such a drama queen!! :stop:
There has never been any guarantee that we must be allowed onto a commercial airplane (which private property). At least not in the Constitution I read. On the contrary, the owner of said private property can impose almost any restriction to those who VOLUNTARILY enter their property. Much like you and I can limit anyone who enters our own home only to non-felons who own a gun.
If only the issue was that private companies were doing this stuff on private property...
Well if you want to get technical -
If you explain to the person entering you home that to be in your house or on your property, that they'll have to be groped by you as a safety precaution, and they agree to it and proceed to enter your house - then yes, you can do that. By buying a airline ticket you are entering into a contract and agreeing to pass through security as set forth by the airport, carrier and TSA; not what the passenger says is okay. If you breach a contract with the carrier by refusing security measures, they are no longer bound to the contract and can refuse you service.
But then there's also TSA's regulations to worry about too.
Belmont31R
01-25-12, 12:33
Well if you want to get technical -
If you explain to the person entering you home that to be in your house or on your property, that they'll have to be groped by you as a safety precaution, and they agree to it and proceed to enter your house - then yes, you can do that. By buying a airline ticket you are entering into a contract and agreeing to pass through security as set forth by the airport, carrier and TSA; not what the passenger says is okay. If you breach a contract with the carrier by refusing security measures, they are no longer bound to the contract and can refuse you service.
But then there's also TSA's regulations to worry about too.
If the commercial carrier had their own safety program then that is one thing, and no one is disputing that.
The TSA part is mandatory no matter what commercial carrier you fly with. I don't see it any differently than if the TSA was pulling taxi's or buses over and subjecting people to assaults. Oh wait, they are...things like train and bus stations.
The idea of "freedom of movement" is going away, and TSA is increasing its reach into other methods of travel. Just wait til they start searching you in your own car. The "safety first" people will get what they deserve as they see their wife yanked out the car so some TSA goon can stick their hand down inside their wife's underwear.
Just pass a law that if states want Federal funding part of the drivers license requirement is to submit to Federal road safety inspections. Driving is a privilege, right?
If the commercial carrier had their own safety program then that is one thing, and no one is disputing that.
The TSA part is mandatory no matter what commercial carrier you fly with. I don't see it any differently than if the TSA was pulling taxi's or buses over and subjecting people to assaults. Oh wait, they are...things like train and bus stations.
The idea of "freedom of movement" is going away, and TSA is increasing its reach into other methods of travel. Just wait til they start searching you in your own car. The "safety first" people will get what they deserve as they see their wife yanked out the car so some TSA goon can stick their hand down inside their wife's underwear.
Just pass a law that if states want Federal funding part of the drivers license requirement is to submit to Federal road safety inspections. Driving is a privilege, right?
Yikes. I guess I should start walking more. :)
So i can grope anyone that voluntarily enters my house, legally? You know, just grab up on someones crotch or breasts?? I mean of course its for my safety....safety first!
Man! What a great idea!
I can't wait until the wife has another Mary Kay party.:D
SeriousStudent
01-25-12, 20:23
Senator Rand Paul wrote an article detailing the events here: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/23/tsas-intrusions-undermine-security/
That's a good article. Polite and well-reasoned. Thanks for the link.
I sent the Senator an email thanking him for his efforts. I also sent a donation to his campaign as well.
https://www.randpaul2010.com/donate/
Belmont31R
01-25-12, 20:32
Man! What a great idea!
I can't wait until the wife has another Mary Kay party.:D
My wife would frown on such shenanigans.
If our forefathers followed the rules we wouldn't be the United States of America, period. This isn't a slam on anybody in this thread but all the people I speak to who are whining that people should just submit, obey and follow the rules of their masters sound like a bunch of pussies to me.
And if I didn't explain my position that well read my sig line.
This country wasn't founded legally and odds are it won't be refounded legally either.
Belmont31R
01-26-12, 00:16
This country wasn't founded legally and odds are it won't be refounded legally either.
Very powerful statement and very true.
My wife would frown on such shenanigans.
Uh....yeah.....I'd be lucky to get out of it with my head still attached to my body.....it was intended as a joke ya know.
Sidenote... I just flew back from Edmonton last night and although they were slower than turtle shit for the security line they were a little more intelligent on a few things. Rather than having everyone pull off their shoes their version of TSA agents would deem who's were OK to roll through the metal detector and who's weren't. A ballpark guess would be about 80% of the people weren't required to remove their shoes but people with thick soles, work boots and similar were and it made for a much better experience.
Also, rather than sending everybody through the cancer causing naked machines they were used on a very limited basis. If you caused an alarm on the traditional metal detector then you were either hand wanded or asked to go through the X-ray machine.
Not perfect but it was definitely a step in the right direction.
Sidenote... I just flew back from Edmonton last night and although they were slower than turtle shit for the security line they were a little more intelligent on a few things. Rather than having everyone pull off their shoes their version of TSA agents would deem who's were OK to roll through the metal detector and who's weren't. A ballpark guess would be about 80% of the people weren't required to remove their shoes but people with thick soles, work boots and similar were and it made for a much better experience.
Also, rather than sending everybody through the cancer causing naked machines they were used on a very limited basis. If you caused an alarm on the traditional metal detector then you were either hand wanded or asked to go through the X-ray machine.
Not perfect but it was definitely a step in the right direction.
Well that's great, I hope that becomes the standard.
Sidenote... I just flew back from Edmonton last night and although they were slower than turtle shit for the security line they were a little more intelligent on a few things. Rather than having everyone pull off their shoes their version of TSA agents would deem who's were OK to roll through the metal detector and who's weren't. A ballpark guess would be about 80% of the people weren't required to remove their shoes but people with thick soles, work boots and similar were and it made for a much better experience.
Also, rather than sending everybody through the cancer causing naked machines they were used on a very limited basis. If you caused an alarm on the traditional metal detector then you were either hand wanded or asked to go through the X-ray machine.
Not perfect but it was definitely a step in the right direction.
OMG!! That's discrimination against blue collar workers!!! :eek:
:D
Seriously though, I can hear it already from the PC groups. :( :rolleyes:
Doc Safari
01-26-12, 12:45
Sidenote... I just flew back from Edmonton last night and although they were slower than turtle shit for the security line they were a little more intelligent on a few things. Rather than having everyone pull off their shoes their version of TSA agents would deem who's were OK to roll through the metal detector and who's weren't. A ballpark guess would be about 80% of the people weren't required to remove their shoes but people with thick soles, work boots and similar were and it made for a much better experience.
Also, rather than sending everybody through the cancer causing naked machines they were used on a very limited basis. If you caused an alarm on the traditional metal detector then you were either hand wanded or asked to go through the X-ray machine.
Not perfect but it was definitely a step in the right direction.
It is still forcing you to submit to being herded like cattle. All because this government is afraid of a little technique used by the Israelis: profiliing.
It is still forcing you to submit to being herded like cattle. All because this government is afraid of a little technique used by the Israelis: profiliing.
I agree but it is a step in the right direction. But I'm also taking about the Canadian TSA people and not Americans. I could go on for hours about the TSA, it's abuses and the bullshit cover-ups but it's not going to change anything.
Doc Safari
01-26-12, 12:50
I agree but it is a step in the right direction. But I'm also taking about the Canadian TSA people and not Americans. I could go on for hours about the TSA, it's abuses and the bullshit cover-ups but it's not going to change anything.
IIRC when they tried to force the pilots to go through the nudie scanner and all that jazz the pilots simply refused to fly or threatened to stop flying or something like that. So they got exempted. What a novel idea. If we could get the rest of the public to refuse to fly the airlines would be forced to put pressure on the TSA if they want to stay in business.
EDITED TO ADD: I already refuse to fly unless it's a medical emergency, and I make that clear to anyone who asks. ;)
IIRC when they tried to force the pilots to go through the nudie scanner and all that jazz the pilots simply refused to fly or threatened to stop flying or something like that. So they got exempted. What a novel idea. If we could get the rest of the public to refuse to fly the airlines would be forced to put pressure on the TSA if they want to stay in business.
EDITED TO ADD: I already refuse to fly unless it's a medical emergency, and I make that clear to anyone who asks. ;)
Never going to happen.
Never going to happen.
That would require people to have a spine a la Rand Paul. I fly frequently, twice a week many weeks, and have only had one X-ray and that's because I was in a huge rush to catch an international flight. Every other time I've opted out and will continue to do so. The TSA agents have definitely adopted more of an attitude as of late when doing pat downs and so have I.
I wear a lot of ballcaps and roll through the metal detector with them on. "Sir, I need to inspect your ballcap." "It's a hat." "I know, I'm required to touch it and inspect it." "Fine, change your gloves." And then they look at me like I'm from Mars. How dare I question their authority!
I will not consent to one of these dumbshits finger****ing the hat I'm going to be putting back on my head with the gloves that they've touched multiple people and items that I have no knowledge of. I do the same thing for patdowns and they hate it! But, I'm in the right and they can go **** themselves.
That would require people to have a spine a la Rand Paul. I fly frequently, twice a week many weeks, and have only had one X-ray and that's because I was in a huge rush to catch an international flight. Every other time I've opted out and will continue to do so. The TSA agents have definitely adopted more of an attitude as of late when doing pat downs and so have I.
I wear a lot of ballcaps and roll through the metal detector with them on. "Sir, I need to inspect your ballcap." "It's a hat." "I know, I'm required to touch it and inspect it." "Fine, change your gloves." And then they look at me like I'm from Mars. How dare I question their authority!
I will not consent to one of these dumbshits finger****ing the hat I'm going to be putting back on my head with the gloves that they've touched multiple people and items that I have no knowledge of. I do the same thing for patdowns and they hate it! But, I'm in the right and they can go **** themselves.
i like to stuff my ball cap into my nikes when i put my crap in the bin!
Now, I havent flown since I got my ares belt last feb, im interested to see how its going to go as I have to fly out to the french carib at the end of feb.
And here's the security footage showing a calm Rand Paul versus an "irate" one as the police claim. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/72013.html
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