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JoshNC
01-28-12, 09:28
I haven't seen any reviews on S&B this year and am very eagerly awaiting the 1-8 SD. Any info, photos, etc would be much appreciated.

d90king
01-28-12, 12:36
I believe the reports that came out at SHOT is that it is still being tested, with an estimated release date being around August.

I think because of the delay a fair number of folks are now considering the new Leupold Mk6 1-6 or 3-18. It looks to be an excellent choice and a very strong value in the low variable optic market. I know it grabbed my attention.

bp7178
01-29-12, 17:35
There was some stuff posted in one or more of the S&B threads in the optics section.

The short version is they (S&B) is guesstimating a 2nd quarter 2012 release, and the price is up to $3500 from $2500-2600.

I wouldn't get wrapped up in it. Keep in mind it was suppose to be released in August of 2010.

Given the extremely small exit pupil noted by a few, I think a better option is to use a 2.5-10x and a RMR/RDS or something similar.

Titleist
01-29-12, 17:46
Patrick, wrong scope, the Mk6 1-6 and 3-18 aren't nearly the same thing as the 1-8x.

That said, i guess no one uses the search function on this site anymore.

But yes, price is up 1000 dollars, and it's not 2nd quarter, it's 2nd HALF of the year. Generally this is a euphemism for NOT LIKELY IN THIS YEAR.

2013. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

d90king
01-29-12, 19:18
Patrick, wrong scope, the Mk6 1-6 and 3-18 aren't nearly the same thing as the 1-8x.

That said, i guess no one uses the search function on this site anymore.

But yes, price is up 1000 dollars, and it's not 2nd quarter, it's 2nd HALF of the year. Generally this is a euphemism for NOT LIKELY IN THIS YEAR.

2013. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

What's the new Leupold 1-6 that I'm thinking of? Not Mk6?

d90king
01-29-12, 19:22
This is the one I was thinking of.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=kyle%20lamb%20luepold&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CE8QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmilitarytimes.com%2Fblogs%2Fgearscout%2F2012%2F01%2F17%2Fcant-touch-the-mark8-cqbss-check-out-the-leupold-mark-6-1-6x%2F&ei=QuIlT4M9yfXSAaqjreII&usg=AFQjCNEx9oqn-tw2zarVIyg5FIzSf-EbtA&sig2=Za2F9Qulbohg-QP1v9vDsA

Seems to offer a lot of features at a good price...

Unreconstructed
01-29-12, 19:29
What's the new Leupold 1-6 that I'm thinking of? Not Mk6?

the new Leupold Mark 6 line includes the 1-6x and 3-18x

d90king
01-29-12, 19:36
the new Leupold Mark 6 line includes the 1-6x and 3-18x

That was my understanding.

JoshNC
01-29-12, 22:25
Patrick, wrong scope, the Mk6 1-6 and 3-18 aren't nearly the same thing as the 1-8x.

That said, i guess no one uses the search function on this site anymore.

But yes, price is up 1000 dollars, and it's not 2nd quarter, it's 2nd HALF of the year. Generally this is a euphemism for NOT LIKELY IN THIS YEAR.

2013. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars.

Thank for the info Titleist. I looked in the optics forum but not in the S&B 1-4x stickied thread. Sorry for the additional work to type it twice, that is annoying.

I will likely wait and see what early adopters of the S&B have to say. I was similarly excited about the Leupy CQBSS and after having tried one I am glad I did not buy the Leupy.

Titleist
01-29-12, 22:29
The S&B was massively disappointing, which is a true shame. I really wanted it to be awesome. It wasn't.

Seems like the 1-8x is just an elusive bar to hit. And I'll say the TMR version of the CQBSS is junk. The H27D version is in fact sort of awesome.

JoshNC
01-29-12, 22:53
The S&B was massively disappointing, which is a true shame. I really wanted it to be awesome. It wasn't.

Seems like the 1-8x is just an elusive bar to hit. And I'll say the TMR version of the CQBSS is junk. The H27D version is in fact sort of awesome.

I had a chance to shoot an H27D on loan to a military chap at the range where i shoot and while nice, It seemed like having the dot in the FFP was a hindrance at higher mag. This is obviously rectified by simply turning off the illumination when mag'ing up for longer shots. But knowing that the S&B 1-8 was going to address this issue made the S&B all the more attractive.

Overall I felt the H27D was a nice optic and I would probably buy one and be happy were it a $2500 item, but at $4k'ish it just left me feeling like it should have been better.

But I'm just a civilian shooter who appreciates quality. The CQBSS was obviously designed to fill a niche at the request of a particular user group. Not knocking it, just saying it isn't for me.

Titleist
01-29-12, 22:55
The H27D CQBSS is now 3000 dollars. FYI. S&B raised their price. Leupold dropped theirs.

JoshNC
01-29-12, 23:10
The H27D CQBSS is now 3000 dollars. FYI. S&B raised their price. Leupold dropped theirs.

Well that is very interesting. Thanks for the info.

wilshire1412
01-30-12, 11:21
The H27D CQBSS is now 3000 dollars. FYI. S&B raised their price. Leupold dropped theirs.

I am going to be purchasing one of these in the near future, any idea as to when the price is to drop from $4500 to $3k? I will feel like an idiot if they come down in price after I get one.

USGILT
01-30-12, 11:28
Don't forget Leupold offers an outstanding discount for LEO/MIL on the MK8 CQBSS with a price point in the $2,500 range! :dance3:

wilshire1412
01-30-12, 11:45
Don't forget Leupold offers an outstanding discount for LEO/MIL on the MK8 CQBSS with a price point in the $2,500 range! :dance3:

That is a terrific incentive, but I am no longer MIL.
I had seen a price a while back that was apparently dealer cost at around $3600 for the H27 CQBSS.

I will agree with being disappointed in the S&B 1-8x.

I went to the show just to look at optics and the Leupold offering that is available now is IMO a better scope for a few reasons.

I totally missed the Premier booth, I wanted to see the 1-8 they are working on but I guess it will not be available any time soon either.

Sensei
01-30-12, 15:11
Don't forget Leupold offers an outstanding discount for LEO/MIL on the MK8 CQBSS with a price point in the $2,500 range! :dance3:

Sir, PM sent.