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Titleist
02-13-12, 11:08
The LaRue Handstop and YOU!

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Handstops, they're all the rage these days. And for good reason, low profile, light, and able to help get a consistant grip especially on longer rail systems.

One of my favorites is the LaRue Tactical handstop, why? because it's a light chunk of plastic, contoured well, and super simple. It easily attaches to the hardpoints of the LaRue rails, or slides over a picatinny rail, with ease.

"But I don't have a LaRue PredatAR/OBR rail, nor do I have a railed forearm, Isaac. Am I shit out of luck?"

Well no, Timmy! In fact, your shit is FULL of luck! Let me explain. Generally this information will apply to two forearms that I own, the Troy VTAC rail and the Magpul MOE forearm. The majority of the modifications are the same with a few minor details in the finishing.

What I used (what you'll probably want to use).
-Bandsaw (Metal-cutting blade / non-metal cutting blade)
-File
-Sandpaper
-Drill Press
-Aluma-black
-Loctite
-Patience
-MOE Rail screw and backer (MOE mod)

Here's the process in a nutshell for the VTAC rail, you have to cut the top of the handstop off, which is the part that actually holds to the picatinny rail. I use a bandsaw to create a nice even cut. Then use sandpaper to create a nice even surface, and round and sharp edges created.

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You'll notice this now creates an arc that allows the bottom to contour to a round forearm. I sugest using the LT handstop that already has the hole in it, so that it saves you some work. The VTAC rail comes with internal rail backers to allow you to attach rail portions along the attachment points. I seriously doubt people are using all of these rails, so you should have a spare one sitting around. I take the shortest one I have, and cut it in half (as pictured). Then using some aluma-black (or a pen) darken the exposed metal (after sanding it).

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You'll need to widen the handstops hole to match the diameter of the new screw. With all of these components in place just position the shortened rail attachment backer where you want it (I used some matches to wedge the rail backer in place so it didn't keep falling out), put some loctite on your screw, put it through the handstop and into the backer, go finger tight, put a witness mark on it, grab a beer and congratulate yourself on a job well done.

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But wait, you don't have a VTAC rail, you've got a MOE forearm? Damnit why didn't you tell me these details upfront?! Alright, fine. The plan is the same for the most part. You'll want to remove the top portion of the handstop (usually about 4-5mm of material), I also suggest removing about 8mm off the back of the handstop to avoid a step I'll get into in a bit.

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Now you'll notice that the MOE forearm has a round contour on the bottom. But it has ribbing that runs perpendicular to the forearm. Frankly I didn't want the handstop to be wedged up on one of those ribs. So I took the step of creating a notch in the modified handstop. I used a flat-sided file (later versions I used a 3-axis mill because frankly mills kick ass), and created a notch about 3mm deep, then used a small file to clean up the edges, and high grit sandpaper to complete the work.

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This is a grove that runs across both sides, so marking across using a ruler is probably a good idea. Width is about 8mm wide but you can eyeball it. This will also prevent the handstop from wiggling, as well as prevent the handstop from pulling back. It's best to position the handstop where you want it first, mark it, then carve your notch, otherwise you'll have to start again.

So why did I cut the back off the LT handstop? Because at first I created two sets of grooves. This makes the positioning of the second set of grooves precise, but it's also un-needed. Halfway through I ended up cutting the second set off because A) it wasn't needed and B) it saved me more time.

Now taking your MOE rail backer, and MOE screw, take the bottom of the forearm off, place your backer, install your screw through the modified LT handstop, and tighten (The MOE screw will thread through the LT handstop without reeming out a bigger hole). Install the lower portion of the forearm back on. And go grab a beer.

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Note: Older version with two cut outs. Don't waste your time like I did.

That's it. Nothing more to it. But the end results should look factory if you take your time and measure twice / cut once.

Hope this helps!

rob_s
02-13-12, 11:14
Good post. I just ordered a 1.75" sanding drum to muck around with doing the same thing to an AFG. I don't really care for the AFG but haven't spent oodles of time with it so thought this would make a good way to do both.

I hadn't considered taking it to the Larue part.

hunt_ak
02-13-12, 11:53
Great post, titleist! Do you work for ML?

Titleist
02-13-12, 11:58
Great post, titleist! Do you work for ML?

Nope. I do not, that might be in reference to two images that have the watermark for LT. I grabbed those off his site purely because I needed a side profile shot to illustrate the cuts. All rights belong to LT and Mark Fingar.

hunt_ak
02-13-12, 12:01
that might be in reference to two images that have the watermark for LT...
Yes it was....good review, man. I'll be coming back to this, for sure!

gun71530
02-13-12, 13:17
Fantastic post. Thanks for posting this, I was wondering how you had done it.

Stickman
02-13-12, 14:06
These "handstops" have been out for the past ten years or so, $10 for two, and you can get them in different sizes... they mount nice and easy. Check out the Pearce Grip extensions for Glocks the next time you are at a gun store.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2PG380-1.html

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/2-PG380.jpg

trinydex
02-13-12, 14:12
My mind just got blown

SeriousStudent
02-13-12, 19:03
Isaac, thank you very much for the research and your time. I have been daydreaming about something like this to go with a rifle-length MOE handguard.

titanse05
06-23-12, 18:14
These "handstops" have been out for the past ten years or so, $10 for two, and you can get them in different sizes... they mount nice and easy. Check out the Pearce Grip extensions for Glocks the next time you are at a gun store.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2PG380-1.html

Thanks for posting this. I ended up buying a pearce glock mag extension and modified it with the dremel to fit on my rainier arms evolution rail. Very pleased with the end product.

ZoneOne
06-23-12, 19:07
Thanks for posting this. I ended up buying a pearce glock mag extension and modified it with the dremel to fit on my rainier arms evolution rail. Very pleased with the end product.

Pics please.... I may have to put an order in and dust off the Dremel.

titanse05
06-23-12, 20:08
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/titanse05/Gun%20stuff/RainierArmsUrbanCarbineRUC-145LW29.jpg

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http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee318/titanse05/Gun%20stuff/RainierArmsUrbanCarbineRUC-145LW31.jpg

jaxman7
06-23-12, 22:15
These "handstops" have been out for the past ten years or so, $10 for two, and you can get them in different sizes... they mount nice and easy. Check out the Pearce Grip extensions for Glocks the next time you are at a gun store.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/2PG380-1.html

http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/2-PG380.jpg

Definitely one of those "Why in the crap didn't I think of that" moments while reading Stick's post.

Titleist,

Nice mod. Simple, cheap, and effective. Thanks for sharing. My next build will probably have a MOE handguard and I'll be doing this mod as well.

-Jax

jstyer
06-26-12, 21:17
Excuse the crappy cell phone pic... but I've been running a chopped up Larue stop in front of a chopped up VFG for a little while now, and it's by far my favorite setup to date. It makes it super easy to get a fast and consistent weak hand grip after reloads and transitions. As well as when coming from high port.

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For clarification's sake, here's what it looks like when it's gripped.

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