New to AR's

[LH2]

New member here. Have been a handgun and rimfire rifle guy until now.

Looking for an AR for fun, range time and home defense. Thinking 16" barrel and maybe mid-length A3 as I may add optics later on. Do you guys think a flattop with BUIS like the M&P 15T is a good choice if you don't plan to add optics right away?

A dealer who I like to work with can make good deals on Armalite, Stag, S&W and Sabre. I've looked at the chart and the threads it inspired and they make me think the Sabre is the way to go if I can swing the money. If I don't want to spend quite that much, S&W looks like a close second - is this fair to say?

There was a thread (by Grant I believe) not long ago here stating that Armalite has really turned their quality around to being solid again.

Honestly, in the interest of simplicity and inexpensive ammo, I'm also looking at a nice quality AK, such as Arsenal.

Input appreciated.

[C4IGrant]

New member here. Have been a handgun and rimfire rifle guy until now.

Looking for an AR for fun, range time and home defense. Thinking 16" barrel and maybe mid-length A3 as I may add optics later on. Do you guys think a flattop with BUIS like the M&P 15T is a good choice if you don't plan to add optics right away?

A dealer who I like to work with can make good deals on Armalite, Stag, S&W and Sabre. I've looked at the chart and the threads it inspired and they make me think the Sabre is the way to go if I can swing the money. If I don't want to spend quite that much, S&W looks like a close second - is this fair to say?

There was a thread (by Grant I believe) not long ago here stating that Armalite has really turned their quality around to being solid again.

Honestly, in the interest of simplicity and inexpensive ammo, I'm also looking at a nice quality AK, such as Arsenal.

Input appreciated.


If you want a middy gas system (good choice), your options are limited. SD is most likely one of the best choices.

If you can wait a little bit, Daniel Defense is about to release some 16" barrels with Middy gas systems.


C4

[BushmasterFanBoy]

I'd check out the thread about ADS rifles. Just search "ADS" and it should come up. They are supposed to be pretty good, especially at the price they are going for.

[Rmplstlskn]

Honestly, in the interest of simplicity and inexpensive ammo, I'm also looking at a nice quality AK, such as Arsenal.

Input appreciated.

It's the AMMO COST and lack of availability that will hurt you the most...

I love AR's, but if I wasn't into them by starting to feed my BRD (Black Rifle Disease) over a decade ago, as well as buying bulk MILITARY SURPLUS ammo in the 1990's, I might not have jumped in, rather opting for the cheaper shoots, the AK's and combloc stuff.

Ammo is a killer right now.... with WOLF :eek: the only AFFORDABLE bulk ammo in the game... It makes me sit back and remember the good ol' days... like when I bought 10k of pristine IMI M193 and M855 for just over $1500. :(

Rmpl

[LH2]

It's the AMMO COST and lack of availability that will hurt you the most...

I love AR's, but if I wasn't into them by starting to feed my BRD (Black Rifle Disease) over a decade ago, as well as buying bulk MILITARY SURPLUS ammo in the 1990's, I might not have jumped in, rather opting for the cheaper shoots, the AK's and combloc stuff.

Rmpl

And the cheap .223, steel-cased Wolf isn't really an option in an AR, is it? AFAIK, AK's eat it up.