View Full Version : Troy "Claymore" Muzzle Break
http://store.troyind.com/Claymore_Muzzle_Brake_p/sbra-clm-05bt-00.htm
I think these are relatively new. But, anyone get hands on with one of these? I'm interested in its recoil impulse reduction (obviously) but also how large of a flash comes out the end.
Troy does not claim any flash reduction.
Microalign
02-23-12, 07:58
You can't really have any obvious recoil reduction unless you have side ports on the muzzle device.
loganp0916
02-23-12, 08:09
Go to the AR pic thread and check out some older (like 6 months or so) pics from bcmjunkie. He had a claymore on an sbr. 12.5? It spit fire. And if I remember right he has a few videos on YouTube. His name was danger....something.
loganp0916
02-23-12, 08:11
Dangertastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYGHVuhWPU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://store.troyind.com/Claymore_Muzzle_Brake_p/sbra-clm-05bt-00.htm
I think these are relatively new. But, anyone get hands on with one of these? I'm interested in its recoil impulse reduction (obviously) but also how large of a flash comes out the end.
This device directs the muzzle blast forward, away from the shooter and is best used on SBR when the shooter grows tired of the concussion rattling his teeth every time he presses the trigger.
Being that the blast is direct forward, physics states the recoil impulse will in fact increase ever so slightly although in this case the effect will be negligible.
If what you meant was you are looking for something to help control muzzle flip then this is not the device for you as it does not disperse gases around the circumference of the muzzle to control its movement.
lifebreath
02-23-12, 09:27
How can a device that directs blast forward retain "effective muzzle brake properties," as claimed in their product description? My background is in math and physics, and how to accomplish these two things simultaneously with the design shown eludes me. Newton's third law be damned!
EDIT: Just watched the vid ... dang, those flames are impressive!
You are confusing a break with a compensator
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m1a_scoutguy
02-23-12, 09:38
http://store.troyind.com/Claymore_Muzzle_Brake_p/sbra-clm-05bt-00.htm
I think these are relatively new. But, anyone get hands on with one of these? I'm interested in its recoil impulse reduction (obviously) but also how large of a flash comes out the end.
I had one on one of my rifles for awhile & it worked OK. I bought it reasonable in a Package deal with a bunch of other Troy stuff !! Flash is alot,,Blast is not bad,,all goes forward for the most part,,it pushs "back" more than it flips up,,but you still get some muzzle rise. Over all for the price,,not a bad piece. I took it off and went with the BattleComp after I saved up some $$$ !! I had this mounted on a 14.5 BBL.
lifebreath
02-23-12, 09:44
You are confusing a break with a compensator
I'm not confused. A brake reduces recoil, hence the term "brake." A compensator typically refers to either reduction of muzzle rise, recoil or both. Either way, they reduce recoil be directing gas backwards and reduce rise by directing gas upward. Both terms are often used interchangeably. The troy device directs gas forward.
I like the YHM brake. Very similar. Around the same price.
From Troy's website - " Directs muzzle blast and sound forward, away from the shooter, while retaining effective muzzle brake properties"
I have used the Claymore on 11.5" barrel. I first tried a PWS FSC556. It was very effective for control of felt recoil & muzzle rise, but it was LOUD.
I tried the Claymore to see if it could tame the muzzle blast & noise. It did help with it. For me as the shooter, it sounded about the same as a 16" with A2 FS. It also reduced felt recoil slightly over A2 FS, but nowhere near as good as the FSC556. It also does spits out a nice fireball that is visible in the daytime depending on the ammo that you use.
I'm not confused. A brake reduces recoil, hence the term "brake." A compensator typically refers to either reduction of muzzle rise, recoil or both.
Looking into it, we are both wrong (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muzzle_brake) with the nomencleature.
Muzzle brakes and recoil compensators are devices that are fitted to the muzzle of a firearm or cannon to redirect propellant gases with the effect of countering both recoil of the gun and unwanted rising of the barrel during rapid fire.
That's funny because I've always heard
Dangertastic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjYGHVuhWPU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
WOW. Nevermind.
I'm in NY State still, for another couple years, so I must legaly go with a compensator/muzzle break. I'm looking for one that drops the flash signature by a little bit, but is still considered a break by the BATFE. Looks like a battlecomp is my best bet. (Uhg . . I didn't want to dish out $150 for a muzzle device)
Thanks gentlemen
How do you all think this compares to the battlecomp:
http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/images/prodimg/SBV1017.jpg
http://www.spikestactical.com/new/z/spikes-tactical-dynacomp-extreme-556-p-741.html
It has similar properties from what I can tell. What say you?
Are you trying to avoid the BattleComp? If so, why?
Are you trying to avoid the BattleComp? If so, why?
Not necessarily. I'm just being a pussy about spending the money. If the spikes gets me 90% there for 60% of the cost of a battlecomp, I'll probably go that way
Use the search button. There's a whole thread about the Spikes being inferior to the BC in materials and performance.
Use the search button. There's a whole thread about the Spikes being inferior to the BC in materials and performance.
I searched for claymore info but not the spikes. Thank you for the heads up.
I searched for claymore info but not the spikes. Thank you for the heads up.
You bet. I almost got one not all that long ago, but I found the thread and didn't. It would probably be good enough for anything I could throw at it, but I'm trying to keep my rifle "built for life"
Me too. And particularly the muzzle device, because NYS makes you perm it in place. I DO NOT want to skimp on this part and get stuck with it on a great barrel.
I'll probably order a BC 1.5 in Matte Stainless. I'm eligible for their Public Safety discount too. Score
I'm not a muzzle device expert. I'm also not a Spikes hater. I own one of their rifles and its been decent.
I'm in NY also and working on a new build and havnt wanted to dish out the $$$ for a BC but think I think its worth it in the long run.
I'll have to dig up that thread on the Spikes vs BC comp just for my own curiosity. The spikes never looked like a very though out product to me though. Looks like they got the idea from BC and thought they could just drill a bunch of holes in the thing and get the same results.
Probably one of their more gimmicky items.
I wish global warming would hurry up and burry NYC under water so the rest of us in NY can live free. Sick of pinning this and that on my fukin rifle.
Dude. You said it.
Upstate Secession!
The BC vs Spikes thread basically said that the Spikes is made of a softer steel with a weaker finish and it does not mitigate flash even a little.
The BC looks like the way I'm going because it can mitigate a little flash but still be BATFE ruled as a comp. and it's made of better metal.
If we didn't have to perm these things I'd just throw whatever $35 job on there and call it good until I got sick of it.
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