HST still the go to for most the 9mm guys?

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Originally Posted by Swstock

Yea but you did say it. Maybe edit it out of that post?

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I read it as he's been shooting the .45 since the 70s, and elected to let it slide on the HST part instead of busting his chops...
I'm sure it's just poking fun at this point so lighten up Francis:p

Moving on...

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Originally Posted by Tokarev

Wasn't Hydra-Shok an outgrowth/product improvement of the PMC Starfire? If memory serves they were invented by the same designer.


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Tokarev, there's a chapter in Marshall & Sanow's 1996 book, Street Stoppers, that describes the development and production of Hydra-Shok, Starfire, and Quik-Shok. It's written by Tom Burczynski, who invented them. And maybe I was wrong about when Federal acquired the rights to Hydra-shok; Burczynski says it was 1987, not 1988 as I had said in my previous post. He says he invented Hydra-Shok in the "mid 70s", and Starfire in the "1970s", but didn't do any development work on the latter until the 1980s. He says they share a design concept, but it's not clear from my reading which one was originally invented first.

My shooting log says I've been shooting P9HST2, the standard pressure 147 grain 9mm load, since at least Dcember, 2005, and it's been my near-exclusive carry load at least since 2006. I see no reason to switch, as it seems to work very well when tested against the FBI and IWBA standards and in actual shootings, is reasonably priced, is accurate in my guns, exhibits excellent functional reliability, and is usually available. I'm just an armed citizen, but if I had to shoot through auto windshields on a regular basis, I might reconsider my choice.

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Originally Posted by oldtexan

Tokarev, there's a chapter in Marshall & Sanow's 1996 book, Street Stoppers, that describes the development and production of Hydra-Shok, Starfire, and Quik-Shok. It's written by Tom Burczynski, who invented them. And maybe I was wrong about when Federal acquired the rights to Hydra-shok; Burczynski says it was 1987, not 1988 as I had said in my previous post. He says he invented Hydra-Shok in the "mid 70s", and Starfire in the "1970s", but didn't do any development work on the latter until the 1980s. He says they share a design concept, but it's not clear from my reading which one was originally invented first.

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Thanks for the history lesson.

I have a copy of Street Stoppers somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Straight Shooter

Brother- DAMN, YALL- I NEVER said Ive been shooting HST since the seventies!!! Some smartass said that after mis-interpreting my post!! HO_LEE COW people...who the hell would think HST has been around that long anyway?! PLEASE..READ BEFORE COMMENTING NEXT TIME.

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I wasn't being a smart-ass, I was simply asking for clarification. Thanks for finally clarifying that jackass

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