My best friend has had one for 9 years. It runs like a clock with factory glock mags, cheekweld sucks, I don't like the sights but they are accurate. Everytime I shoot it I tell myself I'm gonna buy one but haven't yet:(
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My best friend has had one for 9 years. It runs like a clock with factory glock mags, cheekweld sucks, I don't like the sights but they are accurate. Everytime I shoot it I tell myself I'm gonna buy one but haven't yet:(
I had one and made it work but never really liked to shoot it. fold and carry, yes. shoot, no. If I was in the market for that sort of thing again, I'd look really closely at a Hipoint. But I'm not. I just don't feel comfortable trusting my life with those things, and that's a pre-requisite for my gun purchases. I guess the closest thing which I would consider would be an SKS, considering (a) carbine and (b) cost.
I have one in the Beretta configuration and it is very dependable and accurate. The rifling in the barrel looked pretty crappy, but it shoots really well in any event. I have shot it about 400 rounds and no problems at all. Mine is still stock with only a KelTec sling added to it. I use the 15, 20 and 30 round mags and all work fine.
I am surprised at its accuracy and was a little surprised at the recoil from the gun. But I like it as a compact truck gun, plinker, fun gun. I originally got it for home defense, and still keep it nearby the bed, but there's lots of other stuff I grab first, like 12 ga or .357 mag. It was a good $300 or so investment for me.
OK, so I bought that sub 2000 I had been looking at for awhile, $320 seemed really decent from what I have found on the intardnets for a new in the box gun.
Bought the G17 mag 9mm version, a couple of weeks ago, and first day at the range shot a 31 round mag of each of the following types of rounds;
124gr +P Gold Dot
115gr WWB ball
115gr Remington bulk pack JHP
124gr +P Winchester Ranger-T
115gr Cor Bon JHP
124gr Geco/RWS ball
and ten rounds each of;
127gr +P+ Winchester Ranger-T
Cor Bon 100gr PowRball
Some FMJ factory reloads of unknown origin (I think they were HSM "Montana Gold" but I forget).
...with no fails-to-anything to report, perked right along without any drama so far.
This little gun has a surprising amount of recoil for a 9mm, not objectionable to me, but noticeable, like twice as much as say an M4 carbine.
I was at the 25 that day and it was accurate with all of the ammo I put through it, in context that is, it ain't a sniper rifle but it seems about as accurate as my 10-22 off-hand and from a barricade rest.
I sure wish those BFG front sights were still available, that would be the shit.
I finally got a chance to zero the gun about a week after initially firing it and ran both our pistol and patrol rifle qual courses, cleaned them both.
Since then I have also tried a number of other ball and JHP rounds, it feeds everything so far.
I wasn't going to clean the gun till it choked, but after passing it around at an in-service range day I was helping instruct I lost count of how many rounds had gone through it, well over 500 now, so I stripped it down out of curiosity, wiped the crud off the bolt, lightly oiled, and banged off another 31 round mag of 124gr ball to be sure I had put the gun back together correctly.
I like it so far.
Bringing this back from the dead to ask a question. I have both .40 and 9mm glocks. Which would be more effective from this platform? I dont know if I want to get one in 9 or .40 and it will really come down to performance
If you choose good ammo there is not a huge difference in effectiveness between 9mm and .40.
Check here to get more info on the effectiveness of standard service calibers
http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=19887
After reading this thread I kinda wish I would have looked a bit harder at the two I saw at the last gunshow.
The BFG front sight was nice, but this one might be even better! http://www.redlionprecision.com/31612.html
Sorry for the necro post, but I don't see the need to start a new thread. I was wondering if anyone would care to post their long term experience with the Sub 2000? I'm specifically wondering how these little carbines hold up under higher round counts.
Yes this thread is old, but why start another one.
Friend just purchased a new glock fed 2000, that we broke in yesterday. Sucker ate Wolf 115FMJ without any issues with 17 & 33 round mags. Reading this thread, there were a few comments about the recoil. His gun was a pleasure to shoot and I really like the idea of folding and inserting into the ruck.
Didn't like the sights any aftermarket sights for the sub-2000?
Aftermarket sights, rails, etc: http://www.redlionprecision.com/Sear...s.asp?Cat=1814
Cheap plastic and rubber that will greatly improve comfort: http://tacticoolproducts.com/