62gr fusion is my first line serious ammo.
Its accurate and terminal performance in tests is great... also has a good rep with hunters.
First round :
- headshots @ 300yds
- czone @ 500yds
- with 11.5"
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It is not quite as barrier blind as Fusion. Its high quality ammo, though. I wouldn’t hesitate to load some up. It kills the shit out of mammals, and flies straight. It does go through barriers intact, which I feel is more important than terminal expansion if I have to choose.
Re Fusion vs TMK, Vicious CB said what I was going to.
Fusion MSR is in my rifle right now.
As others have said, I also prefer the Fusion as my preferred defense/hunting round. I live in the foothills of Appalachia, so most shots are going to be limited to 300 yards or less due to trees and hills. I do have some 77 gr Razorcore, but haven't zeroed anything for them. The fusions are also usually cheaper, which does play a role in the decision, albeit a small one.
I've trending towards everything you posted. I'm moving from 11.5 to a 14.5 Home D gun and would like to enjoy the reliability of .223 pressure ammo again. (the longer barrel will make up velocity)
My only concern is POI shift. I just have to test/confirm, then dedicate a carbine to a 62gr zero if needed.
Pardon my perspective, but what's the fascination and hard-on for barrier-blind bullets?
How often do you practice shooting through walls, glass, large kitchen appliances, furniture, landscaping, and cars? A lot of folks will never practice shooting past 200 yards, ever -- so why match bullets?
If you think it's a big enough / likely / dangerous threat, why not go with a 6.5 or 308?
Seriously -- not meaning to rustle jimmies, but -- why?
For me, just once. That was enough to see how poorly non-bonded bullets do through glass. Shooting through home or auto glass is enough of a possibility for a city dweller to have the better bullet.
If you mean the TMK referred to in the title, it fragments gloriously. It's a long range bullet, but happens to be a good CQB projectile in my opinion.Quote:
A lot of folks will never practice shooting past 200 yards, ever -- so why match bullets?
Some crazies just might to that. But to me, the AR-10 family in both calibers is too heavy and too unreliable for defensive stuff. You want a few hundred yards of distance between yourself and the enemy to allow for malf clearing.Quote:
If you think it's a big enough / likely / dangerous threat, why not go with a 6.5 or 308?
Because I am heavily invested in 5.56/.223, both weapon-wise as well as ammo. I like to think of things in a "worse case scenario". If it's gonna likely be 5.56/.223 that I'm shooting, what gives the best combination of terminal performance AND barrier penetration. It's not always gonna be home defense; maybe if we have a repeat of the "Summer of Love" I may need to rely on more than a Glock in my vehicle should miscreants block roads (I work in a city, live in the sticks) and I have to hoof it. Again, worse case type of thinking. I'd rather not need that performance but still have it, as opposed to needing it and not having it.
As far as .308 goes, I only have two, both M-14 clones, so I'm not seeing myself packing those long-azz biotches in a vehicle. Maybe a nice addition for a bug-out SHTF scenario, but not really a "throw it in the truck" weapon.
Like some of our other esteemed BTDT members, what's your opinion?
For me, it covers all the bases well, jack of all trades. The fusion specifically is accurate enough for any realistic scenario, performs well through anything 556 can defeat and offers good terminal performance. It covers more bases than anything else in a lightweight gun.
Upping the cartrige requires tradeoffs I dont want, fusions tradeoff is money, which isnt an issue for me.
Backup is match grade handloads, I practice to 700 regularly.