Just ordered a Noveske Stainless Steel Upper: I would have preferred CHF - regrets?

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Originally Posted by Armadillo

I never wore out a rifle.

Having Noveske work on my rifles is a special thing to me. Just like many people treasure the rifles that John personally had a hand in making.
If I had a Porsche, I would only want a Porsche dealer touching it. I would not take it to the local garage on the corner.

I have read about one of the pins on the gas black is particularly tough for some folks.
I'd rather have a pro do it than mar the finish with a hammer.

The dealer was on GunBroker and was the only dealer with this upper in stock.
I don't want people to think he is a bad guy because he sold it to me for the market price.

I would be enlightened to know of dealers selling uppers for MSRP in this day and age.

I talked to Noveske and asked them to recommend stocking dealers and the man they told me about put my other uppers on order and there is a 9 month wait.

Considering that now the wait is 12 months, I sure would not blame a dealer for selling for a premium.

He is doing me a favor because if it were less it would have sold out. And, I would prefer to pay a premium and actually have it in hand rather than wait another year.

No dealer would sell for MSRP right now for something that was not spoken for.
If they did, the buyer would flip it for a nice profit.

If you happen to know any such dealers, I'd be happy to clean out there stock and flip them myself.

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Look man, it's not a Porsche, or a car of any kind; it's a very modular rifle of a very common design. Thinking that the manufacturer is the only one capable of doing something as simple as switching a barrel (that you in reality will never actually have to have have switched) is a misunderstanding of the system at best, and fantasy thinking at worst.

If this was a Porsche, would you have the dealer do your basic maintenance? Likely so, right? Well, would you send your rifle to Noveske for cleaning and lubing? Didn't think so. It's an AR, man. A simple, modular, common design that anyone of moderate intelligence can work on with the correct information.

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Originally Posted by Armadillo

I have read about one of the pins on the gas black is particularly tough for some folks.
I'd rather have a pro do it than mar the finish with a hammer.

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The pins are indeed tough without the secret as I found out many years ago.

Put the pin in the freezer overnight. After pounding the first pin (before learning of the trick) and almost giving up, someone (on this site) told me and honestly I didn't believe it, although seemed familiar to install wheel bearing in a car or other bearings that are press fit. I was annoyed having to wait for the freezer to do it's work, but got everything ready, took the pin out of the freezer and it tapped right in like a loose rear sight would. That one nugget has kept me here reading this forum trying to learn, see cool pictures, hear stories, and try to help when I can.

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Originally Posted by Armadillo

I never wore out a rifle.

Having Noveske work on my rifles is a special thing to me. Just like many people treasure the rifles that John personally had a hand in making.
If I had a Porsche, I would only want a Porsche dealer touching it. I would not take it to the local garage on the corner.

I have read about one of the pins on the gas black is particularly tough for some folks.
I'd rather have a pro do it than mar the finish with a hammer.

The dealer was on GunBroker and was the only dealer with this upper in stock.
I don't want people to think he is a bad guy because he sold it to me for the market price.

I would be enlightened to know of dealers selling uppers for MSRP in this day and age.

I talked to Noveske and asked them to recommend stocking dealers and the man they told me about put my other uppers on order and there is a 9 month wait.

Considering that now the wait is 12 months, I sure would not blame a dealer for selling for a premium.

He is doing me a favor because if it were less it would have sold out. And, I would prefer to pay a premium and actually have it in hand rather than wait another year.

No dealer would sell for MSRP right now for something that was not spoken for.
If they did, the buyer would flip it for a nice profit.

If you happen to know any such dealers, I'd be happy to clean out there stock and flip them myself.

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Hate to tell you but you are 12 years too late. The current Noveske is about as far from John's vision as any another other faux boutique AR shop. There is nothing special about Noveske's current offerings and you would be a fool to pay what they currently charging much less paying extra.

I mean look how out of data your information is, those "hard to remove" solid dowel pins havent been used in like 10 years, they've been using regular roll pins for their gas blocks for a long time. Stop reading 10 year old threads on how awesome Noveske was because the current Noveske is very far from that standard.

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Originally Posted by ndmiller

The pins are indeed tough without the secret as I found out many years ago.

Put the pin in the freezer overnight. After pounding the first pin (before learning of the trick) and almost giving up, someone (on this site) told me and honestly I didn't believe it,

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Screw waiting for a freezer. :dirol:

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Originally Posted by Armadillo

Great advice!

I should probably let you all know that I already bought his other CHF upper.

So, now I'll have 2 uppers, anyway.

All these uppers are going into deep cold storage for Armageddon.

At this point, I just want to know if Noveske would be so kind to install a new barrel when the day comes.
I'll pay for the barrel and wait for months but I just want to know if they will do it.

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There are many many capable gunsmiths that could instal any barrel of your choosing. I don’t know shit about gunsmithing but I’ve had Markm and Iraqgunz (RIP) replace many barrels and have never had issues. Call Noveske and ask them and get your answer, but your worried about a non issue IMHO. Chill it will all work out and I doubt you will ever shoot out your current barrel. Good luck shooting it out though.

PB

Dude you need to chill. The stainless barrels are good, it sounds like you probably won’t even shoot it enough to wear it out. I have an 18in SS Noveske barrel and a 16in chf Noveske barrel. The SS shoots lights out and the CHF is alright. Email Noveske and find out if they’ll swap it for you but honestly for 5.56 guns don’t worry about head spacing. As long as you install it in the proper specs and use decent parts you’ll be fine.

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Originally Posted by Armadillo

All these uppers are going into deep cold storage for Armageddon.

At this point, I just want to know if Noveske would be so kind to install a new barrel when the day comes.

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After Armageddon? No - they will be closed.

Andy

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Originally Posted by alx01

You have some relationship with BCM, Centurion Arms (and maybe even Noveske) and they both sell CHF and SS barrels. I, as many others, would be interested to know the feedback on a usable service life.

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No sir, I have relationships with almost every company in the AR15 world. Regarding Noveske, I used to vacation at Johns house for a week or two most years, some would call that a relationship.

I ran 2Gun with a stainless barreled WC SBR for about 5 years. I don’t think CHF would have served me any better or worse. I think you did just fine.