Need help with AR15 optic purchase

I just picked up a PWS MK114 Mod2 and need an optic for it. I usually put Mepro M21's or ACOG's on my rifles, but I'd like to try a variable magnification optic this time. A VCOG is an option, but they're significantly more expensive than the rifle. The options seem endless, and I can't compare them in person. I do know that I want a scope that's 1-6X or 1-8X in magnification, has clear glass and has a FFP reticle so that the reticle increases or decreases in size as I adjust the magnification. Then there's the issue of the mount. Again, the options seem pretty endless. I'm thinking about $1,000 with the scope and mount but am open to more or less. Please help an optically ignorant guy outfit his rifle.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h9bTmXF/PWS-MK114-Mod2.jpg

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Originally Posted by Bret

I'm thinking about $1,000 with the scope and mount but am open to more or less. Please help an optically ignorant guy outfit his rifle.

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In my opinion, either go REALLY good (Nightforce Nx8), or just grab one of the Sig variable power scopes for pretty cheap. Mid range price glass is so unsatisfying.

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Originally Posted by Bret

I do know that I want a scope that's 1-6X or 1-8X in magnification, has clear glass and has a FFP reticle so that the reticle increases or decreases in size as I adjust the magnification. Then there's the issue of the mount. Again, the options seem pretty endless. I'm thinking about $1,000 with the scope and mount but am open to more or less. Please help an optically ignorant guy outfit his rifle.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h9bTmXF/PWS-MK114-Mod2.jpg

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PLXC 1-8x is probably the current favorite, if you have to go cheap the Vortex Viper 1-6x

Not made in China FFP scopes are going to be in the $1500 and up range.

Arken has a FFP 1-8, $375 with the 25% code.

Just mounted a Warne Xskel mount.
Good mount in the $150 range.
I use NF mounts with NF scopes.

It's not well known, but I suggest checking out the SAI Optics 1-6x23. It's the same people responsible for Tangent Theta scopes and imported by the people who handle Elcan. Great optic at a desirable price point. It's a little more than what you were looking to spend, but you're so close to this price level that it's worth considering. They have a few different reticle options, too.

https://www.eurooptic.com/SAI-Optics.aspx

Alternatively, if you really want to stick under budget, the Japanese-made Brownells MPO 1-8x24 line is criminally underrated. You get good Japanese glass and mechanics, mount included, and a decent SFP reticle for $550 right now. Or skip their mount and use the savings to invest in a better one.

https://www.brownells.com/optics/sco...?sku=080001394

I was caught up with FFP vs SFP but a reticle that’s actually useful for the intended application turned out to be more of a factor for me. I currently have the Primary Arms PLXc Griffin Mil reticle on my Mk114. It replaced a Nightforce NX8 FC-Mil. In retrospect, the nuclear bright NX8 is a better fit for my usage. If the capped NX8 with FC-DMx was available back when I got mine, I would’ve stuck with the Nightforce.

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For under $1k with mount, I’m hard pressed to think of a decent FFP LPVO. Even for $1500-$2k, the FFP LPVOs are significantly compromised. For the under $1k price range, I think SFP is where it’s at.

Save a couple hundred more, or if you mil/le get the discount.

I’ll say this; the glass on the vortex scopes is amazing. I’m a Nightforce fanboy so those are the only scopes I own anymore, but I’ll give glass clarity, eyebox, and FOV to the vortex all day.

https://www.eurooptic.com/Vortex-Raz...RZR-16008.aspx

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Originally Posted by Bret

I just picked up a PWS MK114 Mod2 and need an optic for it. I usually put Mepro M21's or ACOG's on my rifles, but I'd like to try a variable magnification optic this time. A VCOG is an option, but they're significantly more expensive than the rifle. The options seem endless, and I can't compare them in person. I do know that I want a scope that's 1-6X or 1-8X in magnification, has clear glass and has a FFP reticle so that the reticle increases or decreases in size as I adjust the magnification. Then there's the issue of the mount. Again, the options seem pretty endless. I'm thinking about $1,000 with the scope and mount but am open to more or less. Please help an optically ignorant guy outfit his rifle.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h9bTmXF/PWS-MK114-Mod2.jpg

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I have tried both ffp and SFP lpvos, and concluded that SFP works better. Actually without proper reticle, FFP is mostly worthless, lpvo or not.

-TL

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Originally Posted by Bret

I just picked up a PWS MK114 Mod2 and need an optic for it. I usually put Mepro M21's or ACOG's on my rifles, but I'd like to try a variable magnification optic this time. A VCOG is an option, but they're significantly more expensive than the rifle. The options seem endless, and I can't compare them in person. I do know that I want a scope that's 1-6X or 1-8X in magnification, has clear glass and has a FFP reticle so that the reticle increases or decreases in size as I adjust the magnification. Then there's the issue of the mount. Again, the options seem pretty endless. I'm thinking about $1,000 with the scope and mount but am open to more or less. Please help an optically ignorant guy outfit his rifle.

https://i.postimg.cc/7h9bTmXF/PWS-MK114-Mod2.jpg

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I would say nxs 1-8 or razor 1-6 in an attila mount.

But before you buy, do you own or will you buy night vision?

Edit: my lpvo is an old 1-4 sfp, its not bad if you know how to use it - just takes more thinking (not good). The reticle is fantastic though for what it is.

Lots of great information here guys. I appreciate it very much. I do not own night vision and am not planning on using it with this rifle.

Again, I appreciate all of the help. Since the consensus here is that I was going to have to spend a chunk of money to get a quality FFP optic, I decided to go with a Trijicon VCOG since I'm already a big fan of their ACOG. I'll let y'all know what I think after I have a chance to shoot the rifle.

https://i.postimg.cc/TPNwnq9P/PWS-MK...-with-VCOG.jpg