http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaDzaErCSo
I am really excited for the X300V and X400V IR. Lets hope we don't have to wait too long for them! :D
Edit 1/28: Surefire 2013 catalog
http://www.surefire.com/media/wysiwy...rochure_ps.pdf
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaDzaErCSo
I am really excited for the X300V and X400V IR. Lets hope we don't have to wait too long for them! :D
Edit 1/28: Surefire 2013 catalog
http://www.surefire.com/media/wysiwy...rochure_ps.pdf
Awesome. Is X300 Ultra obsolete now?! my local shop has had them on order3-4 months before Shot Show and now there's a new version.
Was a bit disappointed to see nothing new with the Scout line, and then they dropped the thing about upgrades coming later in the year.
Anyone know if its just a new Scout head or are they updating the entire line?
Hmm, wonder how many will come into existence and make it to the market... That P3X Fury looks good, but I'm curious of the switching fucntionality with the dual output, clicky, push-through like the LX2. Thanks for the video update.
I'm speculating that there will be updates for the Scout lights from the end of the video when it say "more to upgrades come".
Also with the single cell V1 Vampire I think it is safe to say we can also could expect a single cell M300 vampire head.
I wonder if they'll ever be able to push 250 lumens with a single cell light.
To me, the M300 is the perfect size/weight.. I just wish they'd release it with 200+ lumens and I'd be set for life.
The technology is there, I bet they will. The EB1 is putting out as much/more LUX than the E2DL/M600C, so the EB1 head when it is single-mode, should do fine. I bet a single-mode makes it to the M300 very soon.
You can bet that the M600C will get a 500 lumen TIR head similar to the X300U, as they have always been "twins", and why waste the R&D for optics/etc.? Yep, both of those I would bet money on.
500 lumen Scout is what I really need.
An X400 with an IR laser (Class 1) would be awesome.
I'm curious to what the Omni switch is on the Fury weaponlights
Edit: Also at the end of the video the handheld is an E2D so I'm assuming an ultra head for that or at least a bump up to 320 lumens like the G2X and 6PX late last year.
I'd buy one of the new DSF shotgun lights, if the street price is under $300. I have one of the older 618 lights on my 870, and the newer LED lights are just so damn huge.
Are they releasing the prices at SHOT? I looked on the Surefire website, and the new lights are not listed yet.
I'm praying they'll release that new Defender by 2014.
Is brighter always better though? What about glare? Reflection off walls?
If it works like it's supposed to and Doesn't cost $800 then that X400V-IR will be great.
I wonder if there will be a new Scout head for the mini or if its just a new head for the M600. I need a new mini and if they're planning on just releasing the head I'd like to grab one already.
Look here!!
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=121693
Specs on the M300V, M600V, Surefire X300V! I'm loving of the Vampire stuff coming out this year!! :D
Everything isn't our from last year? Wasn't there supposed to be a high output LX2? With these really high outputs, I think the LX2s system of low/low-pressure high/high-pressure is a best way to go.
It was but I think we can definitely expect it to come out this year. They never mentioned the output last year AFAIK
Not seeing too much new (just more lumen output), and a push of some stuff they promised in 2012 to 2013.
All I want is higher lumen scout stuff...I know TNVC has a 500 lumen scout head retrofit, but it would be nice to get everything from a single source.
how much of what they announced last year was actually released? I remember seeing an x300 compact that would fit on hk45c and p30 rails, however they haven't released that. They announced a flashlight that you can wear on your wrist like a watch, but they haven't released that. They announced an x400 with visible green laser instead of red, but i don't think they've released that yet either. Those were the items i was looking forward too most but they haven't released any of it.
The SF 2211 Luminox wrist light is oddly something I could really use. I hope it makes it to market.
The MV300 and X300V look like the answers to my illumination needs on my suppressed carbines. The cost probably won't be super fun, but I guess I can make some of it back on my newly obsolete SF stuff.
Only really big thing to look forward to at 2014 for this at the civvy end will be if there's a version of the ITI low IR output dual laser system that will accept a vampire head, and run on a pair of 123A's.
I'm hoping the DSF shotgun forend hits the market soon - my new Rem 870P is will not be complete without it. :D
In addition to product, SureFire also introduced its new training facility. It's about 15 minutes outside of Vegas. Indoor live fire pistol range. Indoor 100 yard range. Several outdoor square ranges with room for many more. Brand new simunitions house for force on force training with another on the way. They have an off road driving course, meeting rooms, air conditioned classroom, etc. seems like they will be able to cater to large military or federal units as well as classes for civilians. The facility is huge with a lot of room for expansion. I got the tour today. Pretty cool.
I was hoping for the beefed up lx2. I think the pressure sensitive tail cap is the best thing going. I'd love to have one for the fury.
Strangely I want one as well... I would feel like some kind of astronaut from the future on an distant planet while wearing one... Next I predict that they'll make an Android/Apple OS touchscreen version so that you can run your facebook app while conducting missions. :D
Not excited about these - 150 lumens? IR is great it you need it, but they should have at least bumped it to 200-300 lumens.
Completely different head/diode setup. It is what it is. If you don't need IR, then there are plenty of other white light options with higher output. If you do need IR, then you either sacrifice the higher end lumen range for a dual output head like Surefire's or possibly go with a dual light setup.
FWIW, I've found that under 200 lumens to be best for indoor and over 200 best for outdoor. Not sure what is the best range for IR output...
Still no straight answer on the x400v-IR though... Probably the thing I was the most interested in.
From my personal experience, I've actually found 100-120 lumens of flood to be more than adequate for indoors and 200+ lumens of a more concentrated beam good enough for most outdoor scenarios < 100 yds. That being said, a 500 lumen Fury, though mostly flood - would throw roughly as well as a properly tuned 200lumen with an optic due to the sheer output (though you will also most likely light up the surrounding area as well).
I am still at a loss as to why they couldn't have at least squeezed 200-320 lumens out of it.
whats the deal with the y300? Is that a pocket clip on a weaponlight?
I agree with you. I used the under/over 200 lumens as a generalization. I didn't say it earlier, but I do prefer to carry over 200 lumens since I don't really know what situation I'll find myself in. You can tame the "too high lumen" issue with certain lighting techniques, so my theory is better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
That's interesting about the Fury, never played with one. Might have to give it a try.
As far as the IR/White head lumen output, my guess is that the technology just isn't there yet to have super high outputs on either diode in one single head. Although, I'd hate to see the battery life if they do come out with one :eek:
You are wise.. wasn't disagreeing, just giving my opinion. Ideally, someone needs to make an optic for the XM-L LED that focuses some of that spill light, putting more lumens into the hotspot.
The technology is definitely there - no one is going to use IR and white light at the same time - so they just need to cram two LEDs into the reflector/optic, and use the same driver or a specialized dual driver. They should be able to get full output in both modes. My guess is that the IR LED can only be driven to 150 lumens, so to simplify the design, they used the same driver to power the white LED. Bad design in my opinion.