I am looking for the lightest and looking for a price range around a $100.00 and smallest size, I mean the least in size and I am able to understand the range instructer and easy to find batterys for it or can recharge it.
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I am looking for the lightest and looking for a price range around a $100.00 and smallest size, I mean the least in size and I am able to understand the range instructer and easy to find batterys for it or can recharge it.
Peltor TAC-6's are what you are looking for.......;)
For a measly $150 more you could get the MSA Sordin Supremes. I just got mine a month ago and the quality is top notch. Fully water-proof, and has a jack for coms or mp3 players. You get 600 hours on 2 AAA's.
I don't know about lightest but, I have Peltor Comtacs and they are great. I looked into electronic hearing protection for a long time and these were what I ended up with.
I got mine from Tactical Command Industries (www.tacticalcommand.com). They are on closeout and are the 1st generation ones. Someone told me that the 1st generation ones are actually the better ones because of the circuitry. They are presently $155. I know that's more than you want to spend but, I have seen these for sale elsewhere at more than double that price. So, maybe you might be willing to spend a little more for a great deal.
Joe Mamma
Keep in mind.. I only recommend the Tac -6's based on what the original poster was looking for.
My Tac 6's sit in a box as I use Sordin's.....;)
For the majority of users..Tac-6's will work for there needs...
I would not rule out a set of custom ear plugs.
I went to my local audiologist and had a custom pair of ear plugs cast. Investment was at $100 plus tax. It has been the best money spent. Took about two weeks to get once they made a mold. You have a couple of options. I went for the solid plug, but you can get, for a lack of a better term, an "insert" in the plug that will only allow a certain decibel level of sound through, very similar to the Surefire EarPro. Once you get used to them AND they have been properly fitted for you I can wear them all day and be just fine. I can take them in and out quickly. I had them put a small lanyard type string between them so I can keep track of them when I take them out. I have even started caring them with me on the job (EMT/FF) for some of the noise hazards that I encounter.
I also enjoy the fact that my earpro do not interfere with my hat or sun/protective glasses.
Just my $0.02 :-)
Here are the Peltor Tactical 6 that I bought and they are only $59.
http://www.eabco.com/PeltorTactical6.htm
Enjoy.
I want to thank everyone for their help. I went the Peltor TAC-6 Behind the head band from Envirosafety for $59.00 .
Sordin's are king, followed by the COMTAC II's.
The TAC 6's have have nasty habit of breaking (gone through two pair myself and have seen many others fail).
C4
any particular model of the Sordin's one should look for?
I was just thinking about new hearing protection.
All have to look into those MSA's cause I was looking into the Peltors.
What kind of warranty do each of the brands give?
Does anyone know the differenct between the MSA Sordin Supreme Basic vs the Pro version?
Looks like I can get the basics for $155 Here
The basics due 1:1 sound and have no external 3.5mm jack to plug in other audio equipment and has 200hrs battery life vs the supremes that have sound amplification and a 3.5mm jack and 600 hrs battery life.
Let me tell ya a story about Peltor Tac 6's ..
couple years back I was going to one of Pat's 3 day carbine courses with my spanky brand new Peltor's. My very first pair of sound muffs. This was Indiana in June / July and were talking Africa Hot heat and Humidity...
3 days of 98 degrees with 90% RH. Heat indexes well over 110F.
Out on the line with full kit....Well, after each day, I would pitch the headset in my gear bag. after the course it got pitched in my gear back and down in the basement it went for about 2 weeks.
When I went to the range to practice all my new found skills and went to turn my Peltor's on....nothing, I figured the battery's were dead. Well... I went to remove the ear cushion and foam and viola... corroded batteries (Duracell's) and the electrical connections were corroded and partial eaten away.
I was able to salvage the connections and clean up the set and it still works... but right then and there I new I wanted a sealed battery compartment.
So I bought the Sordins per Pat's recommendation (It's funny how he knows a lot about stuff...) and never looked back.
Now sure .some would say I'm a lazy ass and I should have disassembled the head set every night to let it dry out. But I like stuff that can withstand simple environmental conditions incase I do get lazy and have to remember to do that, or I simply can't for what ever reason.
Plus the sound quality and amplification of the Sordins compared to the Peltors was like Pinto to Cadillac in difference. and with the addition of Gel-Seals to my Sordins.. these are the most comfy head sets you can have on your melon for 10 hrs a day...
These things work great... excellent battery life.. Auto shutoff... comfortable.. Water and dust proof battery compartment.... excellent warrantee..
If your a simple shooter and spend a few hours once a month at the local range then you may not need the Pro X version.. but the basics are excellent.
I'm not saying the peltor Tac 6's suck.. you have to weigh the pro's and cons of each unit and marry that to what you want out of them and then decide... I keep mine as a loaner pair and for future Daughter/Warrior training...
But I can tell you I never cried over getting something too good.....
We must have been in the same class. I sweat out a brand new set at Boone County. I sent them in under warranty and had them fixed. Free.
Next year, I dutifully dried them out each night and still corroded them. No warranty and $90.00 to fix. Uh, no. Bought Sordins for two of us and found a good deal on Comtac set for my daughter. Similar but different. Both have separate battery compartments.
Thanks for the info Harv, that answers my questions.
Does anyone have experience with Pro Ears? http://www.pro-ears.com/shootingspor...protection.htm I want the maximum NRR that I can get and was considering the Pro Mag Plus.
I've been talking these up for a year.
http://www.cabelas.com/prod-1/0044358228573a.shtml
I got these after being severely disappointed by the Tac-6S (Don't worry Harv, I'll say it: they suck!) and being reluctant to step up to the Comtacs or Sordins.
It may be the best shooting accessory I've ever bought short of a LULA. They work great, good amplification and quick cutout, they're good on battery life (2 pairs in a little over a year, my Peltors ate batteries monthly), easy to use, easy to change batteries (separate compartment)...I can't say enough good things about them.
I've compared them straight up with the Comtacs. I felt like they stood toe-to-toe in terms of features, and the Leight wins when cost and ease of use are considered. I'm not a fan of the pushbuttons used on the Comtacs.
I haven't compared them with the Sordins yet.
I have seen them as cheap as $35 and at a high of $75. Honestly, why not give them a try?
We were Paul.. that was 03... she was a little toasty down there....:mad:Quote:
We must have been in the same class. I sweat out a brand new set at Boone County
What does everyone recommend for a behind the neck set of electronic muffs?
I don't want Peltor's 6's and currently own Peltor 7's. All the Sordins seem to have a top head band which will not work with my hat for sun protection (Tilley). The Peltor 7's work pretty well with a baseball cap and will work in the house if I'm ever in my "PJ's" and find I need hearing protection (or want to listen to the bad guy breathe and creep down the "fatal funnel").
Here is fantastic option for the money and the quality will shcok you!
Howard Leight Impulse Sport electronic ear-pro:
http://www.copquest.com/44-3000.jpg
I bought my Howard Leights for about $55.00 and promptly retired my Peltor Tac6 ear-pro! It comes with a cord so you can plug an Ipod directly into them, runs off 2x AA batteries...they are good to go!
(I am not affiliated with Howard Leight's sales department in any way) :D
Howard Leight ear-pro in action:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b6...k/P7300080.jpg
Doorkicker,Do they make behind the head model?
No, HL does not make a behind the head model...but the quality of these blows the TAC6 line out of the sky!
-It takes 2x AA batteries vs. Peltors AAA
-Its a hell of a lot easier to access the battery compartment which is located on one muff on the outer portion of the ear piece vs. having to tear apart the Peltors inside ear cup.
-It has an input jack for radios/Ipod
-Its sound quality is terrific
-its cheaper
My thoughts on the Pro Ears are that the battery compartment is not waterproof, so when sweating a lot or while training in the rain, they will shut off.
They are also too fragile, you don't want to drop them. The warranty service sucks. They are expensive and for similar money the Sordin's are a much better option.
The sound or audio quality is superior to the Sordins.
In a lower price range the Howard Leights are a great value. Everyone I know who has them has been satisified with them.
For max NRR try Surefire Ear plugs and the muffs of your choice. M.H.O.
Subzero,
Absolutely right, why not give them a try. When you see them again for $35, could you make a thread announcing your find? It would be a public service announcement. For $35, it would be a no brainer. The cheapest I have seen them was about $50.
As for the LULA, I think I would rather slam the car door on my left hand, than go without my LULA.:D
Cheaper than Dirt had them for $35 at one time. They're up to a whopping 42 bucks now.
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/36900-54279-966.html
The Supreme Pro's are excellent not sure about the Peltor's but Sordin's are awesome.
Company Line...
The Sordin MSA Supreme Pro™ Ear Muff gives police officers, military personnel, and hunters optimum hearing protection, along with the ability to hear the surrounding environment. Especially useful for target shooting, the Supreme Pro Ear Muff’s slim ear cups are shaped to suit both right- and left-handed shooters. Other features include AUX input and watertight battery compartment. NRR = 18dB $249.95
The new Sordin MSA Supreme Pro™-X Ear Muff offers fully waterproof microphones along with slim design cups for both right- and lefthanded shooters. Superior features include high amplification with natural and realistic sound, and a waterproof battery compartment. NRR = 18dB $279.95
This is probably the best deal you’re going to find on absolutely top of the line electronic hearing protection.
Tactical Command Industries, Inc.
Peltor Comtac for $155
http://www.merchantmanager.com/tacti...DU94%2F329%2DD
I paid over $200 for my 1st set. Thank God a friend passed this link on to me when they needed to be replaced. I got them from these guys for $135 so the price as gone up $20 in the past six months.
What is the difference between the ComTac I and ComTac IIs?
double posted, sorry
Does anyone make a set that will fit under a helmet?
Peltor TAC 6 behind the head model with back band.
These will be released at the upcoming Shot Show. They are supposed to blow all others out of the water including Sordins. I can't wait to get a pair.
When I spoke to the LE Rep he said everything about them is better, No clipping of the sound or voices. It's the big secret for the Shot Show. He didn't even know the street price. I told him I would take a pair any way.
A lttle bit of a drift here...
A few posts ago "NRR" was mentioned. The main reason I haven't switched to electronic muffs is the typically lower NRR. My non-electronic muffs are in the 29-31 range...I don't remember for sure. Most of the electronic ones I see are only around 19.
I sometimes use plugs and muffs... but doesn't that negate the advantages of electronic muffs?
Isn't it better to have the higher NRR?
My use is strictly for the square range and or competition.
The "cheap" electronic muffs are typically in the ~19dB range. the better ones are in the mid-20's. If you take some good Howard Leight Max-33 ear plugs and in my current case Peltor 7's, and turn the volume up you will hear range commands and conversations easily while still maintaining sound suppression for your shooting or any close discharges.
At your house, it's a good idea to put the electronic muffs next to your defensive firearm because you can turn up the volume and hear things you would otherwise miss.