1854 .44 mag
https://www.smith-wesson.com/1854
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1854 .44 mag
https://www.smith-wesson.com/1854
That would be a spiffy deer carbine with a .45 ACP can on it.
If chambering in 460 magnum, it could handle 45 colt and 454 Casull as well.
That would make it interesting. It would have wide range of ballistics that would cover deer, bear, and boar handily.
The only lever action I know of in 460 is Big Horn... with a $5099 price tag!
The wood on that limited edition looks amazing.
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Never had a big want for a lever gun, but that's a sharp lever gun in a thumper of a bullet choice.
I would be interested in a 16.5 inch 357 mag version. Looks like a very nice lever gun
I have always wanted to load up some 180 g flat points at 1000 fps. Nice subsonic load that can be suppressed with a 9mm can
I have one of the old Winchester 94 Trapper carbines in that configuration. It is very easy to use, and a family favorite.Quote:
Originally Posted by signal4l
With the 158-grain Hornady XTP rounds, it gets excellent penetration and accuracy.
Looks a lot like a spiffed up Marlin 1894. Same scope mount pattern and the Marlin furniture is supported to be compatible.
Yea I'm with you. Sounds like they are planning other versions. I'll prob pickup the 357 mag if/when they come out with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by signal4l
Looks good.
I finally found something I could use CFE-P for and that's it! 180 - 187 bullets from my 3" revolvers give 900-925 fps. Recoil and blast are not offensive. Great accuracy. IIRC I settled on 5.6 grs. Very low ES & SD. But I can double check that charge if you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by signal4l
I'm not sure it would go super sonic from a rifle but the load could be cut back a little. Worth a try. HP38 might be a good choice, too as it's a little faster burn.
Lever guns get long with a can.
I'd like one with about a 10-12 inch barrel. .357 or .44 mag I'd be a buyer.
I regret selling my Marlin 1894C.
I have hope that suppressors will be legalized in the Communist Republic of Illinoisistan. First order of business for me will be a 9mm can and a decent lever gun.
The Mare's LegQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron3
They are nice looking guns, yes the wood is amazing on these. The fit and finish is outstanding, I had to ask the rep if the it was actually wood, it's so refined that it almost doesn't appear to be. The action was smooth, no binding and the trigger crisp. The only odd thing is the mag tube comes out as a unit, not the insert like a Henry, thought that was odd. Me-I'm waiting on the Marlin Dark in .357.
By chance I just traded for one!Quote:
Originally Posted by titsonritz
Have to see how it shoots before deciding whether to go down an expensive road for a "fun gun".
Well I fired it.
Worked fine. .38 & .357 reloads. New guns, used guns, top tier, lesser tier, and reliability is hit or miss.
However, as others experienced, it shoots very high even with the rear sight bottomed out. 4 inches at 15 yds with 125 gr and higher as you back up. 150 yd to 200 yd zero? :confused:
Didn't check group because I really need a rest to do that.
The best way to use it was putting the "stock" to my cheek, then pulling it back to my shoulder to work the action, then back to my cheek to shoot.
A stock, and optic or at least better sights, would be great. So would a threaded barrel & suppressor.
Or, just buy the full-size threaded 16 in rifle, put up with the 4 inches of extra barrel, and enjoy the extra capacity.
But with my luck the rifle would be a POS. And longer OAL with no folding or quick takedown for storage & transport.
Also, I don't like the little loading gate. I've got to poke the last round I load with a finger tip all the way so the gate closes. This would be easier with a bigger gate. (.44, .45)
Recoil? What recoil? .357 has a little but it's still mild, shoot all day recoil. Very little blast, either. Not like a .357 revolver at all.
If I had a lever gun for fun think .44 Russian would be a winner. But of course nobody makes that. 2nd choice .44 Special but I'm not sure how well .44 mag guns eat that.
Probably not going to keep it.