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Apparently they’ve done it. Two piece barrel, lock, and I hear, the new crane ball lock. Still, it looks nice.
A couple of years ago I picked up a police trade-in 19-3 that had been rode hard and put away wet. So I sent it in to Smith to be reconditioned and then off to Ford’s for their “master blue” job. By then it was just too pretty to take out and shoot (dumb).
So maybe I need to get one of the new ones and put a cylinder line on it...sure could do worse.
Screw that noise. I'd find a used 19 well before I'd buy that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dienekes
Same here. If I'm buying an S&W is has PB & RC.Quote:
Originally Posted by RHINOWSO
Same! Didn't care for the new 66 either. Prefer my 66 no dash from the early 70sQuote:
Originally Posted by RHINOWSO
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I have a 4" and a 2.5" Model 19, both with pinned and recessed barrels. They are worth hunting for.
And that ungodly safety lock on the side reminds me of someone painting the Mona Lisa, but with a prison tattoo on her cheek.
I also don't care for frame mounted firing pins, they should be in the hammer where they belong.
My 4" 19-3 with Osage grips I modified.
Not much can beat a well broken in/tuned "K" frame double action.
https://i.imgur.com/kTlFZc9.jpg
One of the dumbest firearms things I have done (there have been many) was sell my outstanding 4" P&R 19-3 that had factory target grips, hammer and trigger as I wanted to consolidate to semi-auto, Dumb, just plain dumb!
Nope. Not with the stupid lock.
Buy another p&r 19 or 66 that is shooter grade so you won't feel bad about using it for its intended purpose.
Gaijin, that's a good looking 4 inch.
I just picked up a new Model 19-4 2 1/2" for $600. I wouldn't buy any S&W with a lock.
Well, since I have met my obligations by owning and giving family members a sufficient number of non-lock, non MIM, S&W model 10s, 15s, 18s 19s, 34s, 60s and so forth, and owned multiple 24s and 28s I hope no one begrudges me the right to throw my money away on a POS retro 19.
If it’s a really bad idea, guess what—I can always trade it or sell it. Wouldn’t be the first time.
Sheesh.
You sound like a pretty dang awesome dad to me, giving family members nice wheelguns. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dienekes
Those Model 15's and 18's are just terrific. I just got a very nice 6" Model 17 last month, and love it to death. My daughter especially has a ton of fun with it. :)
I refuse to buy another new Smith until the lawyer locks, 2 piece barrels and MIM parts go away.
Don't hold your breath or that to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaholder
has any one heard if you can actually shoot a steady diet of .357 out of these? Not a huge fan of the hillary hole, but that can be filled in...
If its like the new 66 they redesigned the cylinder lockup so it has a full forcing cone now.Quote:
Originally Posted by rathos
I am very interested in this. From my experience the new S&W revolvers are super accurate and the lock is easily removed and filled in.
I am as well. I have 2 19-3 and a 13-3 however I would love to have a K-Frame I could actually shoot magnums out of. A nice wilson spring kit and a lock removal kit and the gun would be GTG. I guess as long as S&W put the barrel on straight.
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Originally Posted by C-grunt
I'll just leave this here, my new to me Model 19-4 2.5" wheelie.
http://i.imgur.com/cJt8f7Z.jpg
And if you want to shoot duty-strength .357 loads through a revolver all the time, either get a Ruger or a N-frame Smith. No .38, just lots and lots of full house duty ammo? It really needs to be one of those two.
And people need to realize and accept that about K frame 357s, but man, their just awesome little guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeriousStudent
L Frame was built from the ground up to handle a steady diet of magnum rounds, so no need for Rugers or gigantic N-Frame .357s. In fact, the 69 is chambered in .44 Mag while the GP100 is only chambered in .44 Spl, which leads me to believe the S&W in that weight class is built stronger. Nothing wrong with Rugers, and we all know they’re tough as tanks, but they’re not the only gun you can have fun with.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeriousStudent
I too am curious if the redesign of the lockup & forcing cone have created a K Frame that can tolerate a steady magnum diet. The finish on newer Smiths is more of a bummer for me than the lock & MIM parts.
That is a nice looking 19 you got there Serious. The -4 is for me the pinnacle of the Combat Magnum as it has every upgrade and nothing taken away.
I started in 1970 with a 4 inch -3 and later a 6 inch and 2 1/2 inch. Sold all my revolvers at one point during my 1911 phase. Just recently got the revolver bug again and acquired a 4 inch blue -4, a 6 inch blue -4 and a 2 1/2 inch 66-1 which is the same as a -4 in stainless.
Never say never, but I will probably never own a MIM/lock S&W.
I feel that the K frame Magnum fear is over blown as I shot mass qty of full house magnum factory ammo and hot hand-loads out of my 4 inch -3 back in my former revolver life.
^^^^ Mostly that.
I carried a K frame through the Academy, and for my first year and a half as a LEO back in the 80s.
I dumped all my revolvers and switched to the Sig P226, then later the 220 and 229. I just kept One J frame as a BUG.
K frames are more “snappy” with magnum loads, but will take them all day. Not fun if you want to go through a couple boxes of ammo a day, but they will do it.
The new Smith’s have gotten a bad rap. I hate the Klinton hole, But now that I’ve picked up a performance center model 629, i’ve never looked back and I plan on getting another someday. This things built 10 times better than my old 66-1.
The stock smiths leave a little bit to be desired now days. This I’ve really admit. If you can get over the stupid hole though, the new Performance Center models coming out or just as good, if not a little better than the stuff they were pumping out in the 80s. This, coming from someone that carry lots of revolvers back in the 80s.
I hate this board... Just when I thought I had wheel guns completely out of my system, I read a thread like this. Thanks...
Meh, plenty of used stuff out there that need a home.Quote:
Originally Posted by titsonritz
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowrider
Pat
I convinced my dad to buy a used 19 to replace his old duty 19 that he sold back in the day when cash was short. I didn't know SW was bringing them back so I even picked up a spare barrel. It will be mine one day.
Mostly because I'm old and cantankerous. I've never broken a hammer nose but have broken several firing pins in the newer frame mounted style through, I presume, lots of dry fire. And those damn tiny ass springs....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskapopo
Oh well, at least the new ones are easier to replace.
Broke a nose one my 13-2 last year. Luckily my LGS has this kind of stuff in stock and fixed it for me for free!Quote:
Originally Posted by shadowrider
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